2018 Volvo XC60 T8 PHEV FIRST DRIVE REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2017
- MotoMan returns to the Volvo XC60 Crossover - but this time the Twin Engine, T8 Plug In Hybrid EV version in and around Jefferson County - outside Denver - Colorado. The goal for today’s drive is simple: We already learned the Volvo XC60 is a bit more successful in terms for driving dynamics than its large Volvo Scalable Product Architecture SUV sister, the XC90 - however how does it work with an extra 554 pounds and a second propulsion system?
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I'll definitely go with the XC60 T8. I just love Volvo. Besides, I find the GLC quite ugly.
Great review. Not many out yet with folks actually driving the car. I have one on order...happy to see you like it.
T8 for sure. This looks great, looks luxurious inside and I would feel stupid not to have a plug-in today (for gas, the environment, etc.) if available, since I have a lesser cost plug-in now and realize that for my driving, I get near 100 miles to the gallon when I have even 25 miles available daily. Can't yet afford a new I-Pace yet, which will be 90K like the model s (but you get SUV styling), so this is the next best bet. This is why BMW sold so many plug-ins this year. You can't quite make the case for gas vs cost yet in most cases, but conscious customers want the electric, which is so nice a ride in electric mode, BTW, especially for in-city driving. Love the look of Macan, but just too small on the inside.
I have a 2015 XC60 T6 R Polestar.... picked it up used last year and I'm loving it. Love the style and look so I would have to say I'd go with the XC60 T8. The extra weight here in alaska would help in the winters.
T8 gives one access to HOV lane in California and that means time saved everyday. Few questions that would be nice to be covered: 1)what is gas mileage on hybrid use when battery is charged
2) how long does battery remain charged in hybrid use?
3) what is gas mileage after battery is discharged considering the extra weight? (long trips)
4) how well does all wheel drive work when battery is discharged?
101 miles to the gallon , you can drive for around 4 hours in eco or comfort , a little more in eco . If you are highway driving , why not eco right. In cities breaking or not hitting the petal charges the battery so it doesn’t lose much battery power.
How you drive means everything , what mode , are you heavy on the petal etc.
JJ A Thanks. Very useful comment.
Thanks for being the first to review this version of the new XC60. Order in for the XC60 T8 Plug In fully loaded ... with 20+ all EV range...it's a no brainer...
XC60 T8. I don't want a sports car, I want a luxurious, comfortable, safe cross over that has the power to get out of its own way and can do most of my driving at least 50% on battery. This should do closer to 80%. The fact that it's better looking than the others is just icing on the cake.
Good review but way too much time discussing the segment and not enough on the actual review.
Nice review. I still see the Mercedes as an old man's car, the Macan is good looking car, sounds great but doesn't have a hybrid drive train. I chose the T8 R Design for 3 reasons, I wanted to be greener (I can travel to and from work on the electric motor), the design is stunning (I'm coming from the Audi SQ5), third reason is the government incentives (in Canada we get $15k off the purchase price). I take delivery of my car in October.
got it now for 3 weeks and drove it about 3000 km in germany and down to greece. I am very excited about. - the consumption for the first 1500 km around my home in Munich was 3.5 l per 100 km - now after driving about 1000 km on the Highway (between 100 and 140 kmh) the display shows 7.5 L per 100 kmh. The reason is, that battery was low of course. But even in idle mode or downwards you save a lot of gas. Here in greece in my holiday home where i stay about 2 month I won´t need to drive to a gas station at all for my daily use.
Compared with my old XC90 elk diesel it uses the the half (the average of the diesel - 163 PS - has been around 8 Liters)
The only thing which does not work relieable is the speech communication - destinations are often not understood.
The accelaration is brute and you better keep both hands on the steering wheel!
thanks for the info! Do you have any other new updates? ;)
Nice video with TFL PAL!! love your vids!!!
Thanks! Always have fun with Roman, Nathan, Andre and Tommy . . . ruclips.net/video/hottBU0nzno/видео.html
Quit easy to choose between the 3 - Volvo would be the choice; a: because of the neutral image b: no iritating communication about some software which is doing "bad things" c: simply - Volvo is more beautiful and more quality at all!!
I can speak about the Twin Engine feature as I drive a V60 D6 Phev. The 0-100 km/h is mind blowing, it really does the 6 seconds. The torque is the same as a Ferrari California, 610 torque if I'm not mistaken. What is not referenced often is the fact that on a 350 to 400 meters straight road, going slightly up hill, it does 210 Km/h. Friends say it goes like an aeroplane going for takeoff. It certainly pulls like an air bus for the first 20 seconds of the pedal to the metal. Perhaps you should try a D6 just for fun! :) Peace
Hello, great video. I have a Mercedes GLC 350 e (plug in-Hybrid). I understand that when you have no more electric battery the consumption might go high (9-10 l/100 km) after more than 100-150 km in highways or long course drive. But i don´t understand why thisplun-in hybrid cars are not as equal efficient as a normal hybrid car. For instance: if i have no electric baterry left, and if i have to drive 10 km in the center of the city, the consumption can go to 12-13l / 100 km for an avergage speed of 20km/h. In other cars, like lexus, consuption inside the city is much lower and they can´t plug their cars. Why do you thinks this happens? Are the plugin-Hybrid cars also Hybrids or they simply have a petrol engine and an electric engine that work worst when compared to a normal hybrid car?
In Norway they have 2000 preorders on the XC60 over 95% of them are the T8 model. This is due to tax discount for hybrid.
GLC is ugly and Macan's interior still looks like something from 10 years ago. T8 is my pick.
CNHabs so true!
Love those red shoes!!
I love Porsche but I will choose the Volvo XC60 T8 over the basic Macan any day, mainly due to fuel economy, the interior and exterior design and the Bowers and Wilkins sound system which I suppose is available standard in the T8 version ( if not I will pay extra)
All cars are good however that Volvo is really top. I already bought the t8 and I don't think any other car would pleased me so much...
I would go for the XC60, because living in Germany you see Mercedes and Porsches everywhere. Driving a Volvo is something special. In addition to that the XC60 look just way better than the other 2 cars, interieur and exterieur.
You never spent anytime going over the cool features of the car! It's loaded with safety items.
This reviewer completely misses the point of the vehicle. Why does every reviewer talk about acceleration and handling with EVERY vehicle when that is clearly not the focus of the manufacturer. They talk about 0 to 60 times and drive on curvy mountain roads, when the reality is I'm driving from one stop light to the next in the city. A race car should be fast and handle well: a minivan doesn't need to. I'm buying this car, and not because it has a lot of horsepower and handles the best, but because it has great features, design and comfort and is better than all of its competitors at that. Once all cars become autonomous these performance metrics should become irrelevant.
I would not pay more for a more powerful electric application. Rather the price must go down (at least 10%) to be a attractiv solution for myself. In order to be practible the milage on battery should be around 60 miles.
Interesting marketplace stats. Volvo's strategy seems to align well
If I'm not mistaken, the T6 has 316 HP and the T8 has 400 HP and 470 ft/lbs/tq
Would choose a T8 any day.....
I like this!
I would choose T8 over benz, or Porshe primarily for the carpool qualifications in CA
I'm very curious the electric range-I'm not doing all gas cars from now on so plugin hybrids or EVs. I would pay up to $3600 more for 20-25 more miles. My logic is this - if I get a free gallon of gas if range every day that's around $100 a month or 3600 for a 3 years. Personally I would rather drive that 20-25 miles electrically than gas, so it doesn't have to be cheaper just a wash after 3 years... the Tesla model 3 is $100 per additional mile of range so I'm suggesting Volvo could get away $140-180 per additional mile of range. They could even do small medium large 20, 30, 40 mi of electric?
I pick the t8 hands down. I grew up in Volvo's. Within my immediate family, Volvo ownership included the models 240, to 740, 850 turbo to 960 wagon, c70 convertible, to xc70 cross country. Not only have they maintained passenger safety as top priority in all these years, each generation sees them upping their game, consistently, and with confidence with each generation, progressed with the proper balance of style, features and upgrades to their design language. The aura surrounding the Volvo brand is unmatched to me and personally, this is how I feel. Since you asked about the glc 43 or Macan. Well, at the level that we are talking (glc's and macans), those who choose glc's and macans cross me as being so nouveaux riche; Benz buyers being bitchy and pompous, Porsche purchasers, pretentious. (Like that alliteration there? Haha). If you ask me, real porsche drivers won't get in anything unless it's at least a Carrera or Carrera 4s, as for Mercedes, unless you're looking for a g wagon or buying yourself an s class for your chauffeur to drive you around, who wants a glc?!
I have been very intrigued by the 400hp Volvo baby buggy. Definitely would take this over a base Macan. Haven't looked at the AMG GLC43. Just remember to add the air suspension option and claim your $5k tax credit!
Volvo. The interior style/design is simplistic, yet light years ahead.
I'd choose the glc 43 bcuz I love v6's, but I hate paying for gas so I'd love if there was a suv with a v6 hybrid power train I,but the Volvo isn't a bad car tho (love that interior)
Bought the Inscription T8 hybrid over the Audi Q5 . Why? COMFORT. But more importantly, here in California because it’s a hybrid, you get HOV Lane access. The others are not eligible. Case closed 😉. Love my T8 baby buggy. 😀
I want this xc60. I just wish it had a little bit more EV range. I want to be able to drive to work and back without having to charge. 20ish miles will ALMOST do it.
for the price, GLC 43! the engine note and responsiveness are way ahead of the T8. While I do like Volvo's interior, I like the MB also. The MB simply feels more special for the money. The Volvo feels like an Acura...
the range definitely should be 25 miles (minimum real world use) and preferably 30-35miles. Nothing crazy but should easily aspire to do an average daily commute without having to think about plugging in.
Could you please tell me what's the official paint name of this car plz?
at that price the Range Rover Velar is in the mix too. It's a better looking car but of course no battery.
Please review the new audi SQ5 with air suspension as soon as possible
xc60 all the way owning a merc is to normal and owning a macan is even boring these days
volvo stands out in the mix
I did chose the T8, why, simply because of interior, no other current brand offer similar quality or style, except Range Rover Velar, but they have no hybrid powertrain.
Oh and, why did you not give more details how does it ride, how do you you feel the power from electric compared to gasoline versions IE? We have all seen the previous series 90 clips...
I died from drinking every time he said baby buggy.
seppo nurmi mall mobile.
Basic Macan is 2.0... You can't compare it to MB 43. I would choose and I did BMW x4 M40i.
I will choose the Macan. You know, you spend much time sitting, driving the car, you need to look at something appealing each time you open the car door.
t8 or t6?
If it leases well in CA vs a Bmw 530e I'd opt for this one. It's all about the green sticker eligibility of Federal and state money back
The green sticker is only good for another year or so until Jan 1, 2019. Not really worth a 3 year lease for only about a year of green sticker: arb.ca.gov/msprog/carpool/carpool.htm
I don't see Volvo listed among the 2018 cars in the program.
How long does it take to earn back the extra cost of EV power vs the fuel costs? Even if gas prices double in the next few years the costs of manufacturing EV engines will probably double as well.
With the $5k tax credit in the US, the price difference between T6 and T8 is only $3k. Even ignoring the extra horsepower, it seems like a moot point on a $50k+ SUV where you could easily spend more on options like massaging seats.
Is there a state (CA) or Federal tax break with this car?
Could we just choose an S Line Audi Q5 instead as this would probably be the best choice.
Yeah man the Volvo.
piss off with the Macan being competitor. Volvo aimed the XC60 to be comfy not sporty/dynamic etc.
XC90 T8
Jul 2016 Replaced plug-in vehicle charger.
Sep 2016
6452 km Check engine light was on. Software update supposedly resolved (turned out to be incorrect; see next repair trip).
Nov 2016
9652 km Check engine light came on again. Diagnosed as faulty fuel sensor.
Dec 2016
12903 km Brake service required warning had come on. Checked out brake system and updated software in the vehicle. During this visit the tech installed the fuel sensor ordered during prior visit.
Jan 2017
12903 km Battery had died. Applied software update and reversion to resolve. Parking brake switch replaced. Climate system not putting out appropriate temperatures.
May 2017
19355 km Brake service required investigation. They thought that a software update resolved the issue, but it persists. It's going in for another service visit. Squeaking noise during low-level AC use. Replaced heat exchanger per Volvo technical bulletin.
Jul 2017
22581 km Charge port replacement.
Sep 2017
27418 km Hybrid system failure. Replaced battery control unit
You been warn.
www.truedelta.com/Volvo-XC90/problem-histories-292,2016-2017
Wait till he gets on the highway and turn on the Auto-drive. He'll never be the same. Highway driving is boring and it sucks. But once you turn on those massaging seats and that Auto-drive function. Suddenly it's the best car ever.
whats a baby buggy
WHATRRR THOOOOOOOOOSE!!!!!!!
You're a real Mensch, Motoman, but this "yummy mummy" and "baby buggy" shit has got to stop. Forget how annoying it is to anyone with normal Testosterone levels, in this case it actually made one part of the video unintelligible (classes of crossovers were ambiguous)
I think it's the fact that ALL manufactures are chasing the mommies of the free world! Evidently men are a second thought these days. Besides, have you ever tried to put your size 11 shoes in the foot wells of any modern SUV? Good luck with that!
Would anyone be surprised at how many mid-size SUVs are sold to people without small children - or any children for that matter? So why the baby buggy and mommy car references at all? Hackneyed, cliche dismissal, and this is Volvo's biggest selling car.
He is very detailed and informative, but not very flexible in his ways. He often repeats: "Santa Maria Madre de Dios" as if most people knew what it means. However, have you guys noticed that he refuses to say "us" or "we" and instead, repeats "you and I" every single time? I wish he would care about feedback.
Charles B Should be you and in the construction he uses in this video.
Q5 anytime
AND ...please sit in the back seats of your reviews. It is impossible to gauge a review of a car without really seeing the seating. I want a vehicle that two realatively tall 5'10 to 6 foot people can sit in, not just kids or small women.
Ok, I looked at the Macan Sport and GTS, dealer knocked off $6000. ~$58K for the Sport, $78K for the GTS. Nice car but I don't need another car that wants to be a sports car. Own a 911 GTS C4! MB series is just to small and not interested in the MB. Would have to go AMG and at that point I'd buy the Macan GTS! Best car in the group but you pay for it! The GTS is pure Porsche! The MB has a stupid clock! Hate the clock! MB ins't Porsche! The Volvo is loaded with safety features and seem cutting edge at the price point! The Porsche Macan is getting a major change for 2019 and the 2018 Macan's aren't moving off the lots. Plus Porsche has the new 2019 Macan on their website and this is killing the current Macan sales and future prices!! Who wants the old body style! Porsche was out from that point forward! This was a 4th car in the family and with kids driving it the cutting edge safety and design plus the price really is cheap for what you get. It's a nice riding car. It's not the Macan but it's cheaper for a reason. It's a really nice Mini SUV that's cool and looks nice and refined! IMHO This is way we added the XC60! I wanted the Macan for the record. My buddy said it best. "Why do you need a sports car when you own a 911? The Volvo isn't a sports car by any means. I do like the car!!
AMG GLC 43
2.0 diesel xc 60
ill tell u what i would pay extra for, i would pay extra for a vehicle manf. to pay attention to all of its potential buyers and give us what we want, not what you want to sell.
If I have a choice between those 3 cars I would choose the Volvo. Why? Well because I don't like anything from VAG concern and Mercedes nowadays is so bland even if AMG. But at the end I wouldn't choose any of those 3 because I think that SUV's are useless to me.
I'd choose Volvo - I'm built for comfort and not speed. The Merc and Porsche would draw too much attention.
Pro:great designsuperb seatingCon:terrible transmissionstupid ipadventilation way to loud even on stage 1
Macan has no power, and glc43 isn't a real amg, therefore I'd take XC60.
volvo, the other ones are ugly
My choice is Volvo. Like Patrick Koeppli, I think the image is neutral. Audi's and Merc's are on every corner here. Sick of the site of them.
Xc60 is a more all around car. The only thing is better in merc 43 is the sound of the engine. I actually put money in the xc60 t8. In my country is also better about taxes...
The GLC 43 my 1st choice..The XC60 T6 2nd... Rational? The GLC is a Mercedes!
Get out of my home city -- and stop copying me since I live in Spain too.
Macan. Why? Its a Porsche.
Blah blah blah. Give us an engine with some actual character.
headcas620 turbocharged, supercharged, and electric....0-60 in 4.9 seconds. What uniquely powered vehicle do you drive exactly that has more "character"?