At the bottom of the nearest river- at least that's where your GPS is going to end up 2 minutes after your bike gets stolen in Portland. Find a way to integrate it with the battery pack so it charges with the battery and locks to the bike for great success.
JeffPDX1 haha i just mentioned that in another persons comment, this is a good start but if they integrated one into the frame and had it so we could ether take it out or have it run of the battery it would be great
It’s a movement in the right direction and shows there are people thinking about this. I expect great things in the future as there is a market and so money to be made. Can’t wait for that future product that beeps and let’s you know where your bike is in real time with 1yr battery life!
I agree with the other comments. A tracker needs to be integrated into the bike and powered by the house battery to be useful/effective. If you just looking to track your friend or spouse one can already do that with the cell phone.
I wonder how good the tracker will be once the bike is inside an apartment/condo building. Could you pin point the correct apartment? Things to consider with this tracker. Good start but I agree with people here, it needs to be inserted inside the frame or the battery housing.
Hi Joel! Great question. The tracker uses WiFi Positioning, GPS and Bluetooth for the best positioning accuracy. In dense urban areas and inside buildings the WiFi positioning will help narrow down the scope. Then, once you're within maybe 50 yards or so, perhaps more, and connected via bluetooth to the tracker you can use the app's 'Proximity Radar' to give you an even clearer view of the tracker's location. This is very similar to how the AirTag works when in close proximity to your phone. Please note that if the tracker is inserted inside a metal frame or in a completely metal battery housing it may not be able to receive or transmit signals (the metal forms what is known as a 'Faraday Cage').
@@isaacmettle Oops! As you've discovered, metal containers block most/all radio signals. Whether it's an Air Tag or a GPS Tracker like ours, I'd advise trying to install it somewhere with a clear path to surrounding mobile devices/the sky.
Hi, I think it depends a lot on the type of bike you have and where you install the tracker. On the side of the bike as shown in the video is perhaps one of the more obvious placements. We typically recommend mounting it under the seat, within the battery compartment (if not 100% enclosed by metal) or in accessories/tool bags that are unlikely to be torn off in the event of a theft. The most determined thieves given enough time will of course manage to find any and all trackers / anti theft devices attached to your bike. The idea is to reduce the risk of theft as much as possible and increase your chances of a successful recovery. -Matt from Invoxia
I agree with many, it’s way too big and hard to hide. Cannot slide in say a seat post tube? If so, how would surrounding it the metal of the tube? On my RadWagon I would hide it under the rear rack or under the seat….
I'd glue a row of reflectors down the length of the device to disguise it, then mount it in plain sight on the rear fender, rack, or on the seat post just under the saddle.
I'm not sure how to really ask you a question about this other than to comment, so here goes. I just got the email about the new RadRover Plus. I didn't see an external controller (or what appeared to be a controller) on the bike, which to me means that it's probably internal. As the RadRover used to be appealing for it's upgradeability, that appears it may be changing. Since you have done reviews in the past of new/different e-bikes, do you plan on doing a review of this bike, if you can get it?
Bolton should partner with them and build that GPS tech into the battery or controller... then the battery would be basically always charged... and it wouldn't be an obvious tracker that could be removed and tossed...
So I would like to put this in my Himiway Escape battery compartment, out of sight and harder to know it's on board. The frame is heavy gauge aluminum, how well is it going to work like that. Can you test that?
Hi @greaser5028 ! Great question. If the tracker is encased in metal, it will be unable to transmit or receive signals. The metal enclosure forms what is known as a 'Faraday Cage'. I'm not too familiar with the Himiway Escape, but looking at some photos I think you may have better luck under the seat. That said, if the top of the battery compartment is made of plastic, installing the tracker inside could indeed be a viable option. - Matt from Invoxia
I used to use a SPOT Trace. It is about the size of a matchbox and its 2 AAA batteries last for month. Of course you need a subscription - about $10 a month. But I could use it on a car, kayaking, hiking, etc. When it is moved a text message or email (to anyone) with a link to Google Earth shows where it is. It comes with a holder and I attached it under the saddle to the rails with stainless-steel cable ties -pretty hard to cut and the unit could not be seen. The units are frequently on sale or about $50. Not too bad. You program it from a web app to set the intervals and notifications.
This product seems to be more robust and isn't tied to a platform (other than it own which is self contained). But, tech is evolving and it'll get there.
@@acemakr I’m not buying that. You can’t get any more robust than being connected to the entire Apple Network. I’ve tried 3 other go’s trackers that claimed to be robust, but were crap and service was insulting. Airtag has already outperformed all 3 I tested scoring an 8.9 out of 10, and the FPS trackers received a 1 out of 10…
Thank you m8 top info as usual and parts I have bought my go to ! My e bike is worth $12,000 I use a gold hip lock Kryptonite cable d clamp and front disk lock alarm ! Take them every ride ! Looking for a tracker ! Bafang BBSHD Loud large frame 27.5 tubeless tyres ! Dual suspension mid drive 1400 watt runs on both 48 volt battery and 52 !
Noooppe you missed an opportunity to test if it could be put in the down tube of the seatpost and still signal. Shouldnt, but shoulda checked. The bad part of it being on the outside is someone can see it and knock it off or throw it off sadly.
Hi, extensive testing on our side has shown that generally if the tracker is inserted into a down tube or any solid metal frame element, it will not be able to capture a strong enough signal / or be unable to transmit data effectively. This is the same for any GPS Tracker or device that operates over radio frequencies. If you insert your phone into a metal tube, it will also cease to function. With some models of Carbon frames, you may have sufficient signal quality for the tracker to operate normally, but this really depends on the specifications of the bike in question and is somewhat unpredictable.
you need a tracker you an hide that is wayyyy to big hide anywhere .. sure its good to trace your whereabouts and if you break down its great someone can find you but if someone steals your bike they are going to do a once over and see that right away and chuck that into the weeds before they leave with your bike
@@MrInnovativeMusic Dropping the tracker in something on your bike could maybe block the signal, but I agree it needs to be hidden more than on the side of the bike.
@@MrInnovativeMusic unless your tube is carbon fiber (and large enough) you can't hide it there. Amazon has lots of reviews. Under the seat I guess and hope you get to it before the thief tosses it.
Is there a way to put this into the bikepost perhaps? I know the metal might cause an issue, but the first thing a theif is going to do is toss the tracker since it's in plain sight
Hi! I have a question for you. What is the fastest fat tire ebike you have it or you have tried it and can you share with me a link of it so I can see it and buy it. Thanks. I bought two fat tire ebikes but they are not so fast.
Check out Biktrix,I have the 2020 juggernaut ultra 1000 pro,26 by 4inch juggernaut kenda tires,100mm front air fork,180mm hydraulic disk brakes, 11speed rear cassette,sram NX rear derailer.G510 /M620 bafang ultra 1000 middrive motor,160 nutin meters of torque Baby!68pound curb weight, cadence and torque sensor pedal with thumb throttle. This bike rocks right out of the box.plenty of options on the build from Biktrix.
I called Bolton E-Bikes in hopes of getting one but was told they are not sold separately. I would have to buy another tracker just to get the bracket, which would be quite pricey.
How many police of sheriff departments would respond to a bike theft gps tracker ? If someone followed the tracker signal most likely would be trespassing to go on private property . If you rang a doorbell and said my bike is in your home or yard and greeted with a not friendly person that could be dangerous . Good topic for another youtube video . And how far would you drive if your bike was taken by someone driving 50 100 or more miles away ?
Hi John! Over the past several years our products have aided in the successful recovery of thousands of vehicles and valuables. Experience suggests that the average bike thief likely won't think to look for trackers. You may also consider the scenario where the tilt and motion alerts give you a chance to interrupt a theft in progress, say, if your bike is parked outside your house on the street or in your yard. Assuming there's a lock to cut through, you may have enough time to react before your bike is gone. There's no foolproof solution to protecting bikes, but we believe our tracker gives you the much needed edge to prevent a theft or facilitate in recovery of your bike after the fact.
What about a tracker that uses GPS and 4G LTE? And maybe 2 different trackers on the bike? Yeah, it might be overkill, but with the higher cost of ebikes; it would be worth it.
Seems to be great for using as tracker of someone who you know is using the bike. It is not small enough to remain inconspicuous to a would be thief. If they suspect what it is, it's over. I use the sync-up tracker from t-mobile and swear by it. You can set up geo-fences that alert instantly if moved outside of them. You get real time updates which is crucial if you want to recover your bike quickly. It is also small enough to where upon inspection, it is not noticeable at all the places you can put it. I use 3m velcro attaching it to the underside of my bike rack. I have tested it and found my bike every time with feet of where it was. The peace of mind that it gives me when locking it up or even in my shed is worth the $5 a month fee. Also I feel that cell trackers win out over GPS only ones as weather can affect locations as well as metal enclosed spaces. Seven minutes is an eternity for updates when time is of the essence for recovery. Just my 2 cents.
Hi CJ, regarding cost do keep in mind that most other GPS Trackers on the market come with rather pricey monthly subscriptions (on the order of $20/month). Even if the device itself is cheap, you could find yourself spending well over 4X the price of our Cellular GPS Tracker in two years.
Very good product, definitely gonna save up for this. Even though I don't really live in a high bike theft area,and I hardly ever leave my ebike outside, you can never be to safe.
Ebike theft is spiraling out of control across the U.S. this year. With so many more bikes out on the street, and supply chain issues for many manufacturers there's a demand for black-market components/bikes. A good quality lock, parking indoors and a tracker are all great options for securing your ride. -Matt from Invoxia
FIRST... my immediate thought, as mentioned by several others here, was "That's way too obvious and too large to easily disguise or camouflage, or hide. It will be removed immediately." SECOND... As a pilot, I have been using the Global Positioning System since 1995. It works by regular old radio signals. The receiver must receive signals from at least three satellites simultaneously for the computer to triangulate its position. Inside a metal frame it is not likely to work at all as the metal will block the weak signals of satellites that are 12,500 miles away from you. Even a Carbon Fiber frame will attenuate radio signals to some degree. Carbon fiber will conduct. A Fiberglass frame will not block the signals, but might attenuate them some. SO... the best place to position a locator would be, hidden in a plastic case of some sort, and located near the "top" of the case it is in, rather than the "bottom", where things like battery cells would likely block the signals coming from satellites that are moving above you. In an airplane, a thousand or more feet above the ground it is not uncommon to pick up 10 to 12 of the 24 active satellites at once. On the ground 3 to 5 are more likely. Between city buildings it's unlikely to pick up any. I have considered hidden in a plastic encased tail light, or headlight, or reflector or a plastic mirror. Perhaps a protective waterproof case for the speedometer, battery indicator that also hides the tracking device could be devised. I hope this helps your consideration. If I were to steal a bike w/ one, I would duct tape it to a Semi-truck somewhere and let it lead the owner all over the country. All that said if you look at this video there is a disguised tracker / taillight by Vodafone. Go straight to the 13:30 mark. This looks good. ruclips.net/video/lrn70L25Mfg/видео.html
Don’t ask cops anything about it. Call them after it’s stolen like you’re suppose to and tell them you can and will track it. Way easier than asking and them feeding you 🐂💩about the laws they don’t know. Also get one that makes noise, or something that does, so you can prove it’s yours.
That tracker would have NO VALUE to recover a stolen bike as the theft would throw it into the first trash can he/she comes to. The best tracker I've seen to recover a stollen bike is one that can be placed in the seat post ... that makes real sense.
This was a great presentation but…the elephant in the room. Why would you attach your tracker in plain sight in a pop out holder. Bike thieves are not all stupid. I believe the first thing they do is scan the bile for trackers before they even cut the locks. I’m trying to think of a way to camouflage the tracker to look like something else. It’s pretty big…or can we mount it inside somewhere and still have it work?
its a good start.. im with you thinking the same.. something like that would be difficult to hide and a thief would most definitely do a once over on the spot or at least alil ways away from the crime but they would check the bike over and spot something like this.. its a good start though being a thin and pretty small.. but ebikes need something that is ether integrated or maybe something that can be worked and locked into the frame that way we as the owner can take it out to charge it.. unless they can make it so it runs off the bike battery since they have it integrated into the frame
Hey Bolton E-bikes. I have subscribed to your channel and enjoy the review videos. But I must say you should blow your own horn more often if you ask me. I had to look up if you have your own brand, or not. The Black Bird looks as good or better than the Rad(s) or Himiway(s), or whatever. Please make a video the shows your own models Standard, and maybe some features. and or point me to them. I have The Black Bird Hs Landed, on another tab, I'm going to watch now.
AirTags are not a GPS tracker and the updates provided from an AirTag are sporadic. The AirTag works by connecting to nearby iPhones or iPads using ultra-wideband technology. ... The key thing is that the AirTag doesn't have to lock on to your iPhone to provide a location - it will latch onto any modern iPhone or iPad. If no phone or reception is available it’s useless
FREE PRODUCT IDEA, well, almost free, if you make 100k or more I will expect a free bike. A tracker should come built into the battery pack but that would require factory installation so as a stealthy add on it would need to be incorporated into and electrical accessory such as a headlight so it can be recharged by the main battery pack. If you design a headlight with a capacitor that can run the tracker for a month AND be recharged in a few minutes just by turning the headlight on.......yeh, you are welcome.
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Where will you hide your GPS Tracker?
At the bottom of the nearest river- at least that's where your GPS is going to end up 2 minutes after your bike gets stolen in Portland. Find a way to integrate it with the battery pack so it charges with the battery and locks to the bike for great success.
JeffPDX1 haha i just mentioned that in another persons comment, this is a good start but if they integrated one into the frame and had it so we could ether take it out or have it run of the battery it would be great
Inside the frame hidden where it should be, but you never tested how well it works inside the frame.🧐
Very nice product, definitely gonna save up for this.
In my Himiway Escape Battery compartment, all aluminum, will it work there?
It’s a movement in the right direction and shows there are people thinking about this. I expect great things in the future as there is a market and so money to be made. Can’t wait for that future product that beeps and let’s you know where your bike is in real time with 1yr battery life!
zip tieing that to frame screams remove me before stealing me
I agree with the other comments. A tracker needs to be integrated into the bike and powered by the house battery to be useful/effective. If you just looking to track your friend or spouse one can already do that with the cell phone.
I wonder how good the tracker will be once the bike is inside an apartment/condo building. Could you pin point the correct apartment? Things to consider with this tracker. Good start but I agree with people here, it needs to be inserted inside the frame or the battery housing.
If you have the Apple one you could pinpoint the inch
Hi Joel! Great question. The tracker uses WiFi Positioning, GPS and Bluetooth for the best positioning accuracy. In dense urban areas and inside buildings the WiFi positioning will help narrow down the scope. Then, once you're within maybe 50 yards or so, perhaps more, and connected via bluetooth to the tracker you can use the app's 'Proximity Radar' to give you an even clearer view of the tracker's location. This is very similar to how the AirTag works when in close proximity to your phone.
Please note that if the tracker is inserted inside a metal frame or in a completely metal battery housing it may not be able to receive or transmit signals (the metal forms what is known as a 'Faraday Cage').
@@mattinvoxia3515 I was a dumbass and put my tag in the metal tube that connects the seat to bike. The air tag cannot get reception
@@isaacmettle Oops! As you've discovered, metal containers block most/all radio signals. Whether it's an Air Tag or a GPS Tracker like ours, I'd advise trying to install it somewhere with a clear path to surrounding mobile devices/the sky.
What to stop someone from pulling off the GPS and leaving it for your next bike and ride off with your bike?
Hi, I think it depends a lot on the type of bike you have and where you install the tracker. On the side of the bike as shown in the video is perhaps one of the more obvious placements. We typically recommend mounting it under the seat, within the battery compartment (if not 100% enclosed by metal) or in accessories/tool bags that are unlikely to be torn off in the event of a theft.
The most determined thieves given enough time will of course manage to find any and all trackers / anti theft devices attached to your bike. The idea is to reduce the risk of theft as much as possible and increase your chances of a successful recovery.
-Matt from Invoxia
I agree with many, it’s way too big and hard to hide. Cannot slide in say a seat post tube? If so, how would surrounding it the metal of the tube?
On my RadWagon I would hide it under the rear rack or under the seat….
Inside a metal frame would block all signal.
I really like the size of the product..also I love your unbiased reviews on ebikes and other products. Thanks again Kyle . ✌
One of the better vids. Funny .. almost diluted GTA action. The E-Bike chronicles have begun! Ty Bolton Ebikes
I'd glue a row of reflectors down the length of the device to disguise it, then mount it in plain sight on the rear fender, rack, or on the seat post just under the saddle.
"My small GPS tracker" - holds up tracker about the size of twenty Apple Airtags... lol!
Can this be used in other counties?
I'm not sure how to really ask you a question about this other than to comment, so here goes.
I just got the email about the new RadRover Plus. I didn't see an external controller (or what appeared to be a controller) on the bike, which to me means that it's probably internal. As the RadRover used to be appealing for it's upgradeability, that appears it may be changing.
Since you have done reviews in the past of new/different e-bikes, do you plan on doing a review of this bike, if you can get it?
Bolton should partner with them and build that GPS tech into the battery or controller... then the battery would be basically always charged... and it wouldn't be an obvious tracker that could be removed and tossed...
So I would like to put this in my Himiway Escape battery compartment, out of sight and harder to know it's on board. The frame is heavy gauge aluminum, how well is it going to work like that. Can you test that?
Hi @greaser5028 ! Great question. If the tracker is encased in metal, it will be unable to transmit or receive signals. The metal enclosure forms what is known as a 'Faraday Cage'. I'm not too familiar with the Himiway Escape, but looking at some photos I think you may have better luck under the seat.
That said, if the top of the battery compartment is made of plastic, installing the tracker inside could indeed be a viable option.
- Matt from Invoxia
This is so much better than the key finder I have under the seat of my bike. I am older and I do ride alone often. I may need one of these devices.
I used to use a SPOT Trace. It is about the size of a matchbox and its 2 AAA batteries last for month. Of course you need a subscription - about $10 a month. But I could use it on a car, kayaking, hiking, etc. When it is moved a text message or email (to anyone) with a link to Google Earth shows where it is. It comes with a holder and I attached it under the saddle to the rails with stainless-steel cable ties -pretty hard to cut and the unit could not be seen. The units are frequently on sale or about $50. Not too bad. You program it from a web app to set the intervals and notifications.
Make a comparison video paring this against Apple Airtags that just came out for tracking bikes. $29.99.
This product seems to be more robust and isn't tied to a platform (other than it own which is self contained). But, tech is evolving and it'll get there.
@@acemakr I’m not buying that. You can’t get any more robust than being connected to the entire Apple Network. I’ve tried 3 other go’s trackers that claimed to be robust, but were crap and service was insulting. Airtag has already outperformed all 3 I tested scoring an 8.9 out of 10, and the FPS trackers received a 1 out of 10…
how much.is there a subscription.and is there a low battery warning
I want a tracker for my bike, but I also want it to be hidden. Maybe stuff it into the handlebars or seat post?
Taping it under the fender might be a good place if you have enough clearance
I got my tracker 2 days ago and have been playing with it and so far it seems to work
Thank you m8 top info as usual and parts I have bought my go to ! My e bike is worth $12,000 I use a gold hip lock Kryptonite cable d clamp and front disk lock alarm ! Take them every ride ! Looking for a tracker ! Bafang BBSHD Loud large frame 27.5 tubeless tyres ! Dual suspension mid drive 1400 watt runs on both 48 volt battery and 52 !
Will it still work if hidden inside the frame? Can you hook it up to a usb power source tapped into the main ebike batteries?
Noooppe you missed an opportunity to test if it could be put in the down tube of the seatpost and still signal. Shouldnt, but shoulda checked. The bad part of it being on the outside is someone can see it and knock it off or throw it off sadly.
Hi, extensive testing on our side has shown that generally if the tracker is inserted into a down tube or any solid metal frame element, it will not be able to capture a strong enough signal / or be unable to transmit data effectively. This is the same for any GPS Tracker or device that operates over radio frequencies. If you insert your phone into a metal tube, it will also cease to function. With some models of Carbon frames, you may have sufficient signal quality for the tracker to operate normally, but this really depends on the specifications of the bike in question and is somewhat unpredictable.
Do they have a smaller one that you can hide? So that the thief doesn't just throw it on the ground somewhere
Yes, it’s called Apple Airtag
@@ronodell2896 thank you Ron
Hello. Thank you for your video! I just got one for my birthday but I was wondering where did you get the clamp to attach it to your bike ?
you need a tracker you an hide that is wayyyy to big hide anywhere .. sure its good to trace your whereabouts and if you break down its great someone can find you but if someone steals your bike they are going to do a once over and see that right away and chuck that into the weeds before they leave with your bike
Drop it in the down tube of your seatpost
@@MrInnovativeMusic Dropping the tracker in something on your bike could maybe block the signal, but I agree it needs to be hidden more than on the side of the bike.
@@ElectricGeckos that was something i was wondering to would it block the signal of the tracker
@@MrInnovativeMusic unless your tube is carbon fiber (and large enough) you can't hide it there. Amazon has lots of reviews. Under the seat I guess and hope you get to it before the thief tosses it.
Is there a way to put this into the bikepost perhaps? I know the metal might cause an issue, but the first thing a theif is going to do is toss the tracker since it's in plain sight
Would it let you know when the battery is getting low
Hi! I have a question for you.
What is the fastest fat tire ebike you have it or you have tried it and can you share with me a link of it so I can see it and buy it.
Thanks.
I bought two fat tire ebikes but they are not so fast.
Check out Biktrix,I have the 2020 juggernaut ultra 1000 pro,26 by 4inch juggernaut kenda tires,100mm front air fork,180mm hydraulic disk brakes, 11speed rear cassette,sram NX rear derailer.G510 /M620 bafang ultra 1000 middrive motor,160 nutin meters of torque Baby!68pound curb weight, cadence and torque sensor pedal with thumb throttle. This bike rocks right out of the box.plenty of options on the build from Biktrix.
AirTag is $30 and the battery last one year
$ 25 each if you get a 4-pack !
Where do you get the holder? Can't find it on your website.
It's included with the tracker.
I didn't get one with mine
I called Bolton E-Bikes in hopes of getting one but was told they are not sold separately. I would have to buy another tracker just to get the bracket, which would be quite pricey.
How many police of sheriff departments would respond to a bike theft gps tracker ? If someone followed the tracker signal most likely would be trespassing to go on private property . If you rang a doorbell and said my bike is in your home or yard and greeted with a not friendly person that could be dangerous . Good topic for another youtube video . And how far would you drive if your bike was taken by someone driving 50 100 or more miles away ?
You really think a thief won’t look for a tracking device? Come on!
Hi John! Over the past several years our products have aided in the successful recovery of thousands of vehicles and valuables. Experience suggests that the average bike thief likely won't think to look for trackers. You may also consider the scenario where the tilt and motion alerts give you a chance to interrupt a theft in progress, say, if your bike is parked outside your house on the street or in your yard. Assuming there's a lock to cut through, you may have enough time to react before your bike is gone.
There's no foolproof solution to protecting bikes, but we believe our tracker gives you the much needed edge to prevent a theft or facilitate in recovery of your bike after the fact.
What about a tracker that uses GPS and 4G LTE? And maybe 2 different trackers on the bike? Yeah, it might be overkill, but with the higher cost of ebikes; it would be worth it.
Seems to be great for using as tracker of someone who you know is using the bike. It is not small enough to remain inconspicuous to a would be thief. If they suspect what it is, it's over.
I use the sync-up tracker from t-mobile and swear by it. You can set up geo-fences that alert instantly if moved outside of them. You get real time updates which is crucial if you want to recover your bike quickly. It is also small enough to where upon inspection, it is not noticeable at all the places you can put it. I use 3m velcro attaching it to the underside of my bike rack. I have tested it and found my bike every time with feet of where it was.
The peace of mind that it gives me when locking it up or even in my shed is worth the $5 a month fee.
Also I feel that cell trackers win out over GPS only ones as weather can affect locations as well as metal enclosed spaces. Seven minutes is an eternity for updates when time is of the essence for recovery. Just my 2 cents.
Agree with this...
Definitely need a tracker that's much smaller so you can hide it. Plus it's too expensive! NEXT
Hi CJ, regarding cost do keep in mind that most other GPS Trackers on the market come with rather pricey monthly subscriptions (on the order of $20/month). Even if the device itself is cheap, you could find yourself spending well over 4X the price of our Cellular GPS Tracker in two years.
or you can use an apple airtag which is 20 dollars, much smaller, and does not require a paid subscription
if a bike thief is intent on taking my bike wouldn't they just take out the tracker and throw it away? how would one go about hiding the tracker?
Just use Apple air tags ?
Very good product, definitely gonna save up for this. Even though I don't really live in a high bike theft area,and I hardly ever leave my ebike outside, you can never be to safe.
Ebike theft is spiraling out of control across the U.S. this year. With so many more bikes out on the street, and supply chain issues for many manufacturers there's a demand for black-market components/bikes. A good quality lock, parking indoors and a tracker are all great options for securing your ride.
-Matt from Invoxia
FIRST... my immediate thought, as mentioned by several others here, was "That's way too obvious and too large to easily disguise or camouflage, or hide. It will be removed immediately." SECOND... As a pilot, I have been using the Global Positioning System since 1995. It works by regular old radio signals. The receiver must receive signals from at least three satellites simultaneously for the computer to triangulate its position. Inside a metal frame it is not likely to work at all as the metal will block the weak signals of satellites that are 12,500 miles away from you. Even a Carbon Fiber frame will attenuate radio signals to some degree. Carbon fiber will conduct. A Fiberglass frame will not block the signals, but might attenuate them some. SO... the best place to position a locator would be, hidden in a plastic case of some sort, and located near the "top" of the case it is in, rather than the "bottom", where things like battery cells would likely block the signals coming from satellites that are moving above you. In an airplane, a thousand or more feet above the ground it is not uncommon to pick up 10 to 12 of the 24 active satellites at once. On the ground 3 to 5 are more likely. Between city buildings it's unlikely to pick up any. I have considered hidden in a plastic encased tail light, or headlight, or reflector or a plastic mirror. Perhaps a protective waterproof case for the speedometer, battery indicator that also hides the tracking device could be devised. I hope this helps your consideration. If I were to steal a bike w/ one, I would duct tape it to a Semi-truck somewhere and let it lead the owner all over the country. All that said if you look at this video there is a disguised tracker / taillight by Vodafone. Go straight to the 13:30 mark. This looks good. ruclips.net/video/lrn70L25Mfg/видео.html
Apple airtag is ok 👌
Apple AirTags are much less expensive, smaller and pretty much do the same thing from what I can tell in video if you have an iPhone.
Don’t ask cops anything about it. Call them after it’s stolen like you’re suppose to and tell them you can and will track it. Way easier than asking and them feeding you 🐂💩about the laws they don’t know. Also get one that makes noise, or something that does, so you can prove it’s yours.
That tracker would have NO VALUE to recover a stolen bike as the theft would throw it into the first trash can he/she comes to. The best tracker I've seen to recover a stollen bike is one that can be placed in the seat post ... that makes real sense.
405 West Waldron Street Apt 112 E bike
I don't see ANY way to conceal that thing.
Under the saddle, behind the seat post on the frame, under a rack, in a tool bag, saddle bag. It's pretty small.
@@Area13ebikes NOPE
I don't really see the point to have the gps tracker exposed like that tbh... It would be much better if you find a place to hide it.
Wait a few years. A good one should be here by then.
Already arrived, Apple Airtag
This was a great presentation but…the elephant in the room. Why would you attach your tracker in plain sight in a pop out holder. Bike thieves are not all stupid. I believe the first thing they do is scan the bile for trackers before they even cut the locks. I’m trying to think of a way to camouflage the tracker to look like something else. It’s pretty big…or can we mount it inside somewhere and still have it work?
Couldn’t someone just take it from the bike, and leave it?
its a good start.. im with you thinking the same.. something like that would be difficult to hide and a thief would most definitely do a once over on the spot or at least alil ways away from the crime but they would check the bike over and spot something like this.. its a good start though being a thin and pretty small.. but ebikes need something that is ether integrated or maybe something that can be worked and locked into the frame that way we as the owner can take it out to charge it.. unless they can make it so it runs off the bike battery since they have it integrated into the frame
Hey Bolton E-bikes.
I have subscribed to your channel and enjoy the review videos. But I must say you should blow your own horn more often if you ask me. I had to look up if you have your own brand, or not. The Black Bird looks as good or better than the Rad(s) or Himiway(s), or whatever.
Please make a video the shows your own models Standard, and maybe some features. and or point me to them. I have The Black Bird Hs Landed, on another tab, I'm going to watch now.
I found my tracker in the gutter if it can't be hidden in the bike it's worthless.
It's $170. Plus
And it’s a little large to hide. 😢
If I stole a bike, I would take that off and throw it in the weeds. Need one that is hidden and runs of the bike battery.
I have the swisstrack on my Rad Rover - www.swisstrack.org/produkt/power-akku-12v-2500-mah/
In 50,000 words or less......!
Too easy to take off and obvious.
Test it inside your tube of the frame… and then will talk… sorry, seems uselessly Dumb for a bike unless you can hide it
Too big to hide from thieves, try Apple AirTag instead.
AirTags are not a GPS tracker and the updates provided from an AirTag are sporadic. The AirTag works by connecting to nearby iPhones or iPads using ultra-wideband technology. ... The key thing is that the AirTag doesn't have to lock on to your iPhone to provide a location - it will latch onto any modern iPhone or iPad. If no phone or reception is available it’s useless
FREE PRODUCT IDEA, well, almost free, if you make 100k or more I will expect a free bike. A tracker should come built into the battery pack but that would require factory installation so as a stealthy add on it would need to be incorporated into and electrical accessory such as a headlight so it can be recharged by the main battery pack. If you design a headlight with a capacitor that can run the tracker for a month AND be recharged in a few minutes just by turning the headlight on.......yeh, you are welcome.