5 Things I HATE about The Aero Mercury Grand Marquis / Crown vic
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Right now the "Aero: generation of Panther cars is amongst one of the MOST affordable out there, but that doesn't mean they dont come with flaws! here are 6 of them.
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I have a 95’ Crown Victoria HPP model, best freaking car i’ve ever owned. Owned it over 1 year now and has given me zero issues other than power windows lmao but have to love that body on frame!
I actually love these cars. They're very reliable, easy to get parts for and some repairs you can DIY. I'm trying to get 1 now due to the rise in car prices. I want the one with the digital dash.
Most are digital dash.
Just got 1 with a digital dash…im wondering if i can swap it out for one of these🤔🤔
Am I the only one that doesn't mind the older steering? lol I even drift in the snow with it. To be fair, I have never driven and '03 and up Crown Vic, only my '99 P71.
I like it in my ‘96 too. But I’ve also never driven an ‘03+ and I drive like the intended buyers of Grand Marquises with no corner carving.
Sounds like you bought a 90’s era car expecting 2020 or 2010 features
Right
I'm with you on the last one. I had a 1994 Crown Vic and a 1996 Town Car. I hated driving those things in wet weather. It literally use to give me anxiety because of the steering. I finally upgraded to a 2005 Crown Vic. Night and day difference when going around curves doing 60 mph.
especially when heavy wind hits nearly knocks you off the road i got pulled over for swerving in and out of my lane because of really bad winds that we’re pushing the car hard
Yeah, 2005-2011 CVs are great cars. Best they made
Really? I'm going to unplug the solenoid on the PS pump to see if it steers easier. 👍😎
@@ohheyitsdezz3609've got over 1/2 million miles driving Panthers, and I've never noticed wind problems..... Try H or V speed rated tires. Those spongy S rated are your problem...air the S rated up to 50 for a test drive... See if it helps.
. Unless the suspension is worn out... Rear wheel bearings and control arm bushing make them wishy washy..
I have a 97 and the exhaust is just fine 👌. Remember, these Mercury's were entry level luxury cars, never meant to be loud. This thing does exactly what it was designed to do.
I feel blessed because even though my 95 Vic has blown four window regulators, she is a P71 and has 3:27 posi rear, dual exhaust, and dog dish hubcaps.
You forgot the bad intake manifolds on the 4.6’s the only failure I’ve had on mine, at 100k +
I've had 4 Crown Vics and 1 Town Car. The Town Car had an intake failure and rear axle shaft seals and bearings and on 2 of the Crown Vics 05 and 08, I had rear axle shaft seal and bearing failure.
that exhaust actually sounds better than my 04 Grand Marquis lol. Also no panthers (other than the Marauder and Town Cars) had tachometers until 2006. Also most came with single exhaust, only the Marauder, LX Sport, and MGM LSE came with dual exhaust.
GS was single. LS was duals.
As were Signature or more TC.
I had a 97 "AERO" CROWN VIC "LX" with factory dual h-pipe open diff 3.27 gears
digital instrument cluster all leather no power steering issue or window reg problem
130k on the odo best car i ever owned besides my now 2007 P71 factory carpeted cruise
control, burgundy in color black leather interior factory Tint with no holes anywhere.
That steering can end up dancing more than an entire episode of Soul Train. I HATE the steering on those.
Dude I had a 96 mercury grand marquis ls with factory dual exhaust 225 70 15 factory aluminum wheels installed kyb gas adjust shocks I loved that car
What happened to it??
@@P71ScrewHead tee boned at the a piller by a 2006 honda crv at
@@edwardtheilgard810 Dayum, a crappy car takes out another legend car.. RIP to your Panther..
I still got my 96 and road ready 💪
I love that body style they're super space age looking especially when they first came out. I've been subbed since your mark viii videos. Keep up the content mane 💯
i hate that i got rid of my 97 MGM it was suited seriously
At the time of selling the Grand Marquis ... you must have had a good reason to sell !! Right??
It depends on what you want the car for. I have a 2006 Grand Marquis. If you get a Panther car, you definitely want a 2003 and up. There were major changes and improvements in 2003. The front end is all new. Rack and pinion steering. The steering and front suspension on these is built like a tank. Tougher than some trucks. Mine does have a tachometer. It's pretty worthless in a luxury car, but it's there. Mine also has a single exhaust (though it doesn't hang down like that) and an open diff. It also has 2.73 gears. Which is exactly what I want. this car will cruise down the road at 65 mph just above idle with the overdrive on (button on the end of the shifter) and get 30 mpg on flat, level roads. It is smooth and quiet, and rides almost like a '70s Cadillac. Again, that's what I want. This is a V8 powered, body on frame, rear wheel drive, luxury land yacht. It is not a sports car. I have an '03 Mustang for that. This is a cross country car. Put a drink in the cup holder, turn on some '70s music, set the cruise control, and sit back and relax for 400 miles before you need to stop for gas. Mine has the stock stereo, and it even has a cassette player. I connect my MP3 player to it with a cassette adaptor. These cars also last forever. After 2001 they improved the plastic intake manifold so is not nearly so prone to cracking. I have 238,000 miles on mine, and it has only had three problems. One was an alternator failure, well over 100,000 miles ago, a $50 Autozone alternator fixed the problem. Next, the rear air suspension failed. The air bags sprung a leak. That is a seriously expensive repair IF you replace the air bags. But you don't have to, and I don't recommend it. I replaced the air bags with coil springs, and replaced the original rear shocks while I was under there. Under $300 in parts, and I can't tell any difference in the ride. Still just floats over the road, like a Grand Marquis should. The third problem, unfortunately, cannot be repaired. I have the Performance White paint, and a bunch of it has peeled off. This color of paint was defective from the factory. You can't repaint the car without completely removing ALL the old paint. It's not really bothering me, my next one will be some other color besides white.
But this car has gone 238,000 miles with NO engine problems and NO transmission problems. I have seen them with over 400,000 miles on the original engine and transmission. I was going to replace the engine/transmission and whatever it takes to keep mine going forever, but by the time they wear out, probably most of the paint will have peeled off. I will likely just get another low mile creampuff to replace it with. In a different color. I don't mind paying $8,000-$10,000 for a low mileage Grand Marquis in near perfect condition. You think that is expensive, just look at the price of any new car. Around $50,000. Plus new cars are JUNK. The CEO of Ford just admitted publicly that new Ford vehicles are JUNK. A Panther car will last literally forever. 4.6L 2 valve engines and AODE transmissions are cheap and plentiful. They literally grow on trees. If you have a decent non rusted Panther car, just keep replacing engines and transmissions every few hundred thousand miles. Unless it gets destroyed, a Panther car can last another 50 years easily for a tiny fraction of what it costs to buy, finance, and insure several new cars.
Maintenance. I change my engine oil every 3000 miles, with 10w30 (not 5w30) I replaced the stock transmission pan with one from Dorman (yes, I know they make a lot of junk, but their transmission pans are fine) with a drain plug. I drain the pan and refill it every 9,000 miles, and drop the pan and change the fluid and filter every 27,000 miles. it's nice to be able to drain the pan before removing it. i drain out all the coolant that will come out and replace it once a year. Oh, and I also replace the rear axle oil every 27,000 miles, when I do the transmission fluid and filter. There are very few things on these cars that a mechanically inclined owner cannot do. They are 10 times better than the technowhizbang trash they are making now.
EDIT: What you have there is a whale. Aeros were made from 1992-1997, whales were made from 1998-2012.
You can also do a 5.0L Coyote V8 swap in you're Panther Platform as well if you want.
@@CJColvin Autozone (in the Phoenix, AZ area) has rebuilt long blocks for $3000. I recently retired after 41 years as a government fleet mechanic, and worked on thousands of Crown Vics. Thats where I fell in love with them. I'm 63, I'm sure I can keep one going for the rest of my life.
@Gerald Scott Awesome brother
It’s an aero, that’s a pre 1998 model for sure
I agree 03 and up no more dinosaurs
I have a 97 red grand marquis, I love it and been having it since I was 17 I’m 30 now
Back in the mid 2000s when I started Taxing, Had a 95 P71 and upgraded the Front Suspension, Brakes, and 16 Inch wheels from a 99 P71, Changed the feel greatly.
I had a 1997 and a 2000 crown vic and grand marquis once I put new tires on both cars and proper alighnment it was a great driving car in all weather. I never had any issues driving in rain. I have a very heavy right foot and could drive the wheels of the cars. I miss my big couch on wheels and I was getting 25-28 mpg on a regular basis and I drove them hard. I had a lot of fun messing with mustang on the road that thought they would walk my vic and I would smoke them. It was a lot of fun driving in snow with either car I had they would grip and run all day long on my long drive to work. I put a can of stop leak in all the fluids and all the little leaks went away. If I ever find a clean 97 vic again I know it would be fun driving one again. The only issue I ever really had with both cars was a mysterious oil leak that a can of bars stop leak fixed as long as you put it back in every oil change. I guess when you drove the same car for 25 years you get used to how they handle and learn how to have fun year round driving. I kept the tires stock size on both cars and the 15" vic was nicer in deep snow driving over the 16" on the grand marquis that wanted to float more. I still had a blast driving either car no matter the conditions.
Good to see u back making videos I’ve watched all your older videos
Can you do a comparison from grand marquis and L Town Car. Pros and cons of each maintenance wise and up keep.
Does Mr.Random Reviews ... have to do everything?? Are you not able to do your own research, here on RUclips, to compare/contrast?!?
I currently drive a 1995 Grand Marquis Ls that I bought 4 years ago with 108000 miles for 700 dls.It had issues like the heater didn’t work and still doesn’t but I will finally fix it in about 3 weeks,there was an engine oil leak coming from the oil filter housing gasket which was 250 dls to fix around 3 and hakf years ago.The gasket that is on the fuel filler pipe leaked a lot of fuel at the top that was 200 dls to fix around 1 year and a half ago.There was a small coolant leak in a hose located in the middle top of the engine which was around 180 dls to fix and yes the front driver side window broke already which got fixed,but now the front passenger side window is starting to brake.Driving in the snow is manageable if you have skills like I do,I put winter studded tires on the car.The main issue I have is the oil burning,I think they said is a defect on the engine design oj the valve seal seats or something like that.I had someone replaced the valve cover gasket and whatever comes in the kit because I was replacing the spark plugs and found oil on one of the spark plug wire
boots,and also replaced the intake manifold gasket as the mechanic said that needed to be fixed.But I still need to add 1 quart of oil every 2 weeks.I even added restore oil treatment in my last oil change and didn’t seem to help with th oil burning issue.I wish I would had done more research and would had bought a newer model like 1998 or newer,but the car is comfortable and has never left me stranded on the side of the road.The car has 156000 miles.2nd gear slips sometimes since I bough it.I cut off the factory muffler all the way to the end of the tail pipe and replaced it with a sound fx turbo muffler my wife gave me for Christmas 2 years ago and sounds decent,way better than factory quiet.I will take the car to MAACO for a cheap paint job in 1 year or 2.
Man I'm excited for that exhaust video.
I have a 1992 grand marquis and never had a ny problem with it and what I hate about it? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Hating anything that you have then get rid of it.
I have a 2008 grand marquis it's my first car drive well but I need to change ac compressor after changing the drier. If you are in this situation just unplog the ac comprossor so that you don't end with a broken belt. Except that very comfy for montreal streat and very releable.
I bought a 99 Mercury Grand Marquis for $350 it does have a rebuilt title 114,000 miles
I got a 2005 ford crown victoria police interceptor I am having problems with my wipers. I got new motor and all the motor does is click by connector. And check all fuses and idk what going on can you help or anyone?
So this man sold this exact car to me. He ended up not doing any of these things too it. It had about 117,000 on it like a Lil over a year ago. Now it's got 130,000 just turned over. My wife and kids use it every single day since bought it from him and have done NOTHING to it except oil changes and two new tires, and add power steering fluid to it like every other week. Witch yes is annoying...but whatever. Yes it needs suspension work BADLY. Did when I bought it. , But it still runs and drives as is . Have no problem loading the kids up and driving to another state and back. Has NEVER let us down. N yes the Lil vice grips are still holding the back windows up 😅
Hey Mr random I have a 96 grand marquis and am very excited to see your mods .
Just got me a 1996 with 105000 miles with digital cluster in mint shape with one little dent and some clear coat peel for 600 bucks 😅 new tires and all i was stoked
don't drive with the rear windows down a 15+ year old car as the wind will go up the rear glass and tug the headliner down....
What would we's all do without you un-asked for advice ?!?
What brand of fuel are u using and what octane rating?
Personally I use Shell 87 Ethanol free in my '99 P71, she really likes that fuel so that's what I keep filling up with. It costs more but also increases MPG slightly.
I bought a 1996, but I test drove a 1997 Grand Marquis, first. The dash had, "Grand Marquis" in huge letters- pretty distinctive, and a beautiful car. The chrome grill without a hood ornament makes it "flow" better into the hood. If it weren't rusty underneath, I would have bought it. This guy is really, really nitpicking. Rust, rust, rust. That's should be your first, second, and third consideration with rear wheel drive Panthers. A power steering pump is not to difficult or expensive to fix.
P.S. The window motors have plastic bearings because Ford didn't want to see news reports of kids and pets having their heads chopped off. If you don't have kids, you can replace the plastic window motor bearings with metal bearings, as the previous owner of my Town Car did. I can easily crack walnuts or cut kindling with my driver's side window. As far as the rear power windows of the car in this video go; after over 2 decades, obviously, something is worn, internally. These windows were not off track when they were delivered to the customer. It has zero to do with Ford's "aero" body style. The car is old. Things wear out after over 2 decades. Just be grateful that you received a pretty reliable and luxurious car for not much money.
Hace had my 96 ford 3 years bought from original owner and has 140000 miles no power steering issues still has original pump! Damn good car
Have a 96 crown vic. I have no idea what its issue is currently, but it runs pig rich, and loves to occasionally stall when stopping. Changed the plugs a couple of months back. Bank 2 looked fine, but every single plug on bank 1 was caked in carbon fouling. Thing is being an absolute headache without a decent scan tool to look at what my sensors are telling me. Oddly enough, it runs worse between -5°C and 5°C thrown in a couple used maf sensors and a used iat sensor, with no luck. Codes for both banks system rich and sensor indicates rich. No audible vacuum leak either.
EGR maybe?
@Vintage Fan Collector it's possible. The valve has been replaced. The tube fitting nut on the exhaust manifold had a valve cover leak dripping onto it for a while. I'm wondering if I'm getting a leak at that fitting that might be confusing the o2 sensors. Since the egr tube comes off the bank 1 manifold. Sensors might be correcting for a minor lean condition until I get on it, then it starts running way too rich? I have no idea. All I know is I can't get a new fitting nut to replace when I change the manifolds. Cat delete may also have something to do with it, but I can't say.
Amazing video man i have a 1996 crown victoria and having the same problems with the windows 😅
re: 😅 = What is so funny about a Crown Vic window problem ?!?
It does look awful with only 1 pipe!!! Thanks for bringing it up 😆 can't unsee it now
on 2002 and older smear a huge glob of chassis grease on the bump stops at each oil change to stop the loud popping and screeching sounds in a parking lot when the steering wheel is cut as sharp as it can turn...
Supercharged Marauders go for like 20k in my area
they had dual exhaust on performence and handling models
Yes the steering is awful on these and unfortunately my 2000 town car has the same set up. I kinda wondered if they were changeable with newer years that had the rack?
I have a 2004 grand marquis and am about to get 97 a just like the one your showing
How about a new video explaining what would today's realistic value on Crown Victoria's would be? Thanx!
Are you not able to do your own research ?!? Does Mr.Random Reviews ... have to do everything?
You do realize these were available (for sure the town car) with dual exhaust from the factory right???! They did have power number differences.
TheBodhiTree
21 seconds ago
Hey I have a truck for sale and got two trade offers #1- 1985 mercury grand Marquis 2 door with a 351w 260km
#2- 2006 Dodge Charger 3.5 V6 280km
What should I do!!!!
The single exhaust sounds good with a proper exhaust, I've had my fair share or Vic's. This is my first aero year, (97 LS) and it's free of issues, mine has a locked diff tho no one wheelie peelies. But that single exhaust sounds great if done right, my last car was a straight piped '00 p71, and it sounded great but the single pops and seems to have a lot more bottom end torque. (Edit) Single exhaust 4.6 burbles are underrated.
I have dual exhaust, but only a moron buys a Panther to drag race. A Saturn can clean my clock. It won't matter one iota what kind of exhaust you have, unless you want a Marauder clone. Probably cheaper to replace single exhaust, so that's what I'd prefer.
@@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL to be fair nobodies drag racing vics, not that it can't be done, I've seen vics to as low as 9s. But nonethless, dual exhaust in vics is almost overkill, it all depends on the note you want and the sound it makes.
@@tanthalascoxwitt7364 Stock SL2 Saturns are 8 seconds. Someone on RUclips put a stick and turbo in a Panther and made a faster car, but the average buyer isn't going to be able to put in enough work or investment to make the car appreciably faster than your average modern family car. It's a big, smooth, 20 MPG+, comfortable, reliable, safe, roomy, classic cruiser for relatively little money.
What more do people want?
@@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL*cough* a reliable powertrain. Went from exhaust notes to Saturns, tbh couldn't give a f about Saturns. A Honda civic is gonna be a better bang for buck speed starter car than a freaking Saturn. Exhaust notes off a Saturn frankly, sound like crap, so 2 for 2, doesn't matter and isn't relavent.
@@tanthalascoxwitt7364 Don't know or care how fast Honda's are. I compared a Panther to something I know. As far as reliability goes, if you can't keep a Saturn on the road for over 200,000 miles, just take the bus. So, a $700.00 SC2 5 speed pulls up next to you at a stop light with your throaty sounding Panther and revs their engine. What are you going to do?
Do the aero MGM share body parts with bubble vics, they look very similar
Both cars are cousins = Yes!
They made a posi rear?
learn your door code or add your own personal code to the keypad entry....code on the the trunk hinge-5 digit-white sticker... type in the code and then hit the (1-2) button and then type in your new code, if it took your new code, all the doors will lock and unlock to show successful programming...
Intake manifold leaks cracks drips guaranteed
I’ve had 4 panthers. Great cars.
Handling package like mine is factory duels.
Put a later model engine pipe for dual exhaust, had extra pipe added at muffler shop.......now my 95 sounds awesome....
I have a 2009 grand marquis Ultimate edition. Love that car.
I have a 2001 same deal. 101k miles. Could use a dual exhaust. Nice car. Bought it from a friends daughter.
Check out my (only) vid on my Aero Merc. It sounds fantastic!
Bought a 96' vic LX for $2000 the other day, replaced the 02 sensor and changed the oil
Got a 2003 and love it
So when the exhaust video for this car ?
What sort of unclear question is that ??
No tachs until ‘06?
Correct. He made a few errors in the video along those lines. '98-'02 panther cars have more in common with '92-'97 panther cars than the '03+ ones do. My '99 P71 even has the aero vic interior, its nearly identical. Rear suspension a little different vs aero cars but other than that and being a bit heavier, the are basically the 90's cars through and through. Much more of a visual facelift than a mechanical one, the true refreshes and changes started in 2003.
Condensation in the muffler
Do the front end swap???
What sort of unclear question is that?!? "Do the front end swap??"
..I'd keep it "Gramma" ..quiter and better resale as a factory stock Gramma, ..and don't care about Impressing my friends driving like a maniac, I just want a car that starts every time and does the speed limit. You know, ..Real world stuff. 🤷
Still waiting for you to get the holy grail, 1995 ford thunderbird Super coup 5 speed. Retest the rare for the birds. Or even just a 94-97 lx 4.6 . Do some mods ands 0-60. Race a vic or two ?!?!
06 CVP, same issue.......adding ps fluid weekly.......
The p74 and the Marquis are much cheaper to insure. Like hundreds of $ a year cheaper.
That must be for full coverage? I have State Farm liability insurance for my 1999 P71 and I literally pay $28 a month, no joke.
I got a 1994 and I luv it
I had to replace every single regulator in the year i owned mine. And one of the new ones broke after a month
I got a lx sport with 82,000 for 3200 and I love it
Nice, what year is it?
@@Kuson2 04 black on black
the level of disrespect calling it a grandma car smfh yet its a cop car wow its okay youll do your research and understand this is the true OG panther unique look and the mods are unlimited from lowrider to interceptor
My 96 grand marquis a few weeks ago went over 150,000.
What do you want ... a 150,000 mile medal??
1995 grand marquis first car
This should be interesting. 😎👍
i by pass my fk up ac pump with a 71 3/4 belt and swapping the idler pulley with the tensioner pulley :) on my cvil 2002 Ice Blue Crown Vic :) im in Canada dont need ac till july
Exhaust …… the LS had dual. Sorry
I love my 97.
Nice 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻
couldn't drive without power steering? what are we coming to.
98 and up panthers look so much better imo
Also the aerodynamic improvements aren’t that significant over the whale
looks rust free as well!!!!
This is a beautiful automobile!!
If you hate it so passionately , then just purchase a honda civic and "enjoy" it.
I have a 93 for 8 years 😂
re: 😂 = what is so funny about you owning a car for 8 years ?!?
lmao, he got you all.
For me its the aero 😂
Typical Ford, the seat fabric wears like iron and the seats sux for seating comfort.
Ive had 5 plus a Mark8. The 8 had great seats and engine, but rode like an escort with 60# of air in the tires. Pretty sad for 4 air bags.
its a family MANS car chump i am the real panther master
WTF is you rambling about foo?
@@MrRandomReviewssorry was lit on twisted tea haha but i get butthurt when people call it a grandmas car sorry man ive been knowing panthers are the new honda civics for a while now
I have a 94 vic
yeah first
I’m still waiting for the real concerning complaints. Not much ….. still complaining? Go buy a Tempo.
With a cars that size you are going to be riding in the back I did a lot of riding in the back inthe 70s
making me hungry... I need a Taco meter... or say it in the "liter cola" voice of Rod Farva... a meter Taco
lmaooo
"just get the large Farva." "I don't want the large, I want a meter taco!!!"
None of these bothered me at all.😂
Just get you a Ford Taurus lol
Smallest ash trays in the game
I hope you don't complain about your mother's LOL
So which one has a better transmission
Neither ... depends on the mileage, the driver ... and ... doing your own research!!
What's your email? Or is there a better way to contact you with questions?
One year has gone buy ... are you still waiting for an email that is never coming?!? Ehhh?