nmr20067 I prefer the original context of the line in the comics. A resurrected Superman emerges from a robot, a news report says Cyborg Superman destroyed Coast City and that Metropolis is his next target. Superman hears this and vows, “Over my dead body.” Give me the comic version any day of the week
If you're going to have the protagonist say that line, you fail to use it to full effect if you don't have the antagonist no-sell it and immediately respond with "that's what I had in mind" or words to that effect.
Yeah and Parallax Hal Jordan emerges after the shitstorm of Coast City he couldn’t stop because he traveling galaxies and conversing with spectre and all of that shit. Leading to Emerald Twilight And eventually Final Night after the Infamous Zero Hour.
There is a Chinese saying for this. Help a person once they will forever be great-full, help them all the time and they will be resentful of you once you are no-longer able to.
Henshaw is both tragic and pathetic. He was the one who took his wife into space and it was Darkseid who sent Doomsday to Earth crashing into Henshaw's ship along the way. As for Henshaw his entire escape plan was Superman will save them (but it's kind of hard for him to hear you when you're in space where sound doesn't travel). So now he's fallen into the classic villain trope of "Never My Fault" and blaming the hero for his problems.
People are out here saying "DC should put their animated movies in theaters" I'm out here saying "Whoever writes the animated movies should be in charge of writing their live action ones too"
It’s not a problem of “bad writers vs good writers”. The problem is that big budget movies are less likely to take risks because they have more to lose. Everything needs to be corporate approved. Even if the writers are good, they are limited by executive meddling. A relatively low-budget straight-to-DVD movie on the other hand, can basically let the writers do whatever they want.
@@cartoonishidealism582 that's exactly what happens their live action movies were also written by extremely talented people like Chris terrio man he is a Oscar winning writer,then their is David s goyer same guy who wrote TDK trilogy so how the hell are the live action writers bad lmao...real problem are executives not creators
@@brajabadusahoo9570 yall are sooo right, it’s honestly all money 🤷♂️ id like to think DC tries, but hey we cant all be perfect like Disney. I say give DC more time they still have so much to work with. Im excited.
"She's dead because of you" Why, because he couldn't save your ship in time? No matter how much everyone wants to think it, he can't be everywhere at once, and save EVERY life. Superman is just ONE guy.
He was written better in the comics. The fact that he couldn't explain what had happened to him and the fact that Terri died drove Hank into madness, and he began developing delusions and inaccuracies of what really happened. He needed something to blame for his tragedy, and he chose Superman. So his mind crafted its own story that Superman threw something into the Sun, causing the spaceship that he and Terri were in to fill with radiation and crashland. It had nothing to do with Darkseid or Superman not being there in time. Cyborg Superman's motive is all his rage, grief, and frustration directed at the world.
Ivan Del Bianco no, they’re not a farce. Batman was already rushing to Jason Todd when the bomb blew up the warehouse. Hank never delivered any signal for Superman or the JL to save him. You think with all the crimes on Earth, they are able to respond to a call made in outer space? How entitled can you be to always demand a rescue when million others also needed saving? Both Hank and Jason Todd are egoistic maniacs that blames their own personal failures and tragedy to their idols. At least Jason was redeemed in some story arcs as an anti-hero that works with the Bat-family to solve crimes in Gotham. Hank merely used Superman to rid himself of all guilt in causing the death of his wife, even though it was clearly his failure as a husband and her commander.
Actually, according to the last movie "Death of Superman", Hank was the one who suggested that they should stay and wait for Superman while his wife wanted to leave. Also, if Darkseid saved him, why didn't Hank wondered why Darkseid save him but not his wife and him. If anything, Cyborg Superman should get revenge on Darkseid instead of Superman.😒😒😒
0ddMonk3y literally superman is only the govts bitch in tdkr, which has the edgiest adaptations of batman and superman. Supes is mostly against the govt most of the time lol
A thought suddenly struck me. Anyone else realize that the true villain in this movie was what Lex Always said it would be? A world to reliant on Superman to solve their problems and save themselves. And here we have the ultimate outcome of that.
That’s a personal choice. You can choose to be always reliant on someone or be self sufficient. You don’t see Batman or the Flash asking for Superman all the time. They nearly die plenty of times but make it out anyway without asking because they know they are self sufficient enough.
"How about for my wife? Was there a way out for her?" Yes, actually. You could've followed proper protocol instead of expecting Superman to save you. She's dead because of your poor judgment.
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No, superheroes are never there when they need them most. Some examples are Jason Todd and Hank Hanshaw. They needed them, and they abandoned them. Heroes are a great farce.
Just to be clear, Batman was never at fault for Jason's death. He was rushing to save him. The Joker/readers (more like 1 reader with a bunch of time and money) killed him off. Batman was never to blame.
@@activeoffline6772 as in case of jason todd.. joker got carried away beating him up to death with or without realizing that but pretty sure does not give a damn about waiting just went ahead venting out on jason todd
@ You obviously don't know what a superhero is or represents if you completely believe that they abandon the people they try to save. Literally every story of a superhero I have ever seen is them trying to get from point A to point B so they can save person C. Its as if youve forgotten that Villians exist, or just obstacles in general that stop Superheroes from saving everyone. Being ENTITLED to the fact that YOU, specifically YOU, must be saved in a given situation is a very dumb belief to have and I do not respect it at all. You're the one who got yourself in that situation, so tell me why a hero or anyone for that HAVE to save you? Did you forget that heroes can easily and I mean EASILY use their powers for evil and just end you on the spot? Or is it just more convenient to blame someone else for your own fault? Get the fuck out of here with that "Heroes are a farce" bullshit. On the flip side I AM sorry, just that comment ticked me off a little. I don't have any ill-will towards you, I just hate the idea that people seemingly feel the deserve something and call out the opposition when it is themselves who put them in that situation.
@@galaxyman2567 I agree. As much as we hope that heroes can save everyone, not everyone can be. There's only one hero who can but that's only if we choose him as our savior and that's Jesus Christ.
hank did it ever occur to you that if you had agreed to leave the ship with the others instead of waiting for superman your wife would have been alive? superman is not a god he can't save everyone. alien or not, he's just one man. you could have saved everyone but you chose not to. what i want to know is, why? because i know it's not just cuz of superman.
"This isn't about your wife, and you know it - it's about _you!"_ ^ Just about sums up everybody who tries to "avenge" someone they loved; when it boils down to it, they aren't truly doing it for the person they lost (or, at the very least, was badly hurt) - they're doing it to make _themselves_ feel better about the pain they felt.
John wick in a nutshell, he reverts back to his old life after his wife dies for revenge. After he kills his dog's killer, it's not about his wife anymore, it's about him going back into the sin he does best: killing
So let me get this straight, he knew Darkseid made Doomsday, knew that the rock headed toward him and his team was doomsday, this killing them and his wife, yet still somehow blamed it on Superman? If Doomsday's meteor didn't kill him, I'm pretty sure his stupidity just did.🙄🤨😤😠
@Ultra Boy1000 Well said, but all in all, still a good character. I appreciate your analyzation. when faced w/ a character like this, it best to jot down the core elements of why they do what they do, so thank u very much.
@Barbara Jefferson I don't think Hank knew that the meteor had Doomsday. After the shuttle was destroyed, Hank's body was the only one unaccounted for, meaning Darkseid took him, made him into Cyborg Superman and told him of Doomsday being in the meteor.
To be fair, you don't become the pet project of a New Dark God and come out of it with a clear and insightful perspective on the actions of said Dark God.
It would be Better if He Said to Superman "Hey Superman i know Darkseid and what his Plans are i can prepare you and The Justice League to Fight Him" But if that happened we wouldn't of Gotten this Awesome Fight😂
Shadow The Human are you of the impression that DC does live action Films. The DCEU is all WB. Sure DC advises them but WB and their mandates messes it up. Unlike their animated ventures DC has no control over cinematic films. In fact you should be hoping that DC starts making films. Because WB doesn't know what they are doing.
bryan diaz varela he don’t even need a gun. Remember: faster than a speeding bullet. All he need is to let go of all his moral restraints and become Injustice Superman.
A lot of people in the DC Universe seem to forget that despite Superman's abilities and being considered a god to an average person, he is still one man that is also a mortal. He won't always be there to help or save people.
bro I know. people complain about mos because they were casulties. like he suppose to beat the vilain, save the building and a dog on the other side of the planet
Bullshit, people blame Batman all the time for the actions of his villians. The difference is Batman is willing to take responsibility for it. Superman of all people gives the most useless excuse ever, "he's just one man".
0:47 Superman: there's always a way out Cyborg superman: What about my wife, was there a way out for her . *flashback to spider man sam raimi trilogy* "Just give me a chance" "What about my uncle, did you give him a chance"
This isn't some raging psycho just being evil.This is a man who lost everything,including his faith,due to unfortunate circumstances.A man with nothing to lose and nothing left to gain. Say what you will about hank,but at least admit he's an amazing villain(especially compared to this versions darkseid).
What I love most about this fight is the rage you can feel in every one of hanks attacks. He hates Superman, he’s not holding back or getting easily and suddenly overpowered like many super hero fights. He gave it his all.
Hank Henshaw, the Cyborg Superman, he may not be Superman’s worst enemy but he’s definitely one of the most dangerous. Dan Jurgens not only gave us Doomsday, the creature that killed the Man of Steel, but he also gave us one of the most troubled and twisted villains of DC. Hope to meet him someday.
Honestly, I do like the idea that Doomsday was created by Darkseid for the purpose of killing Superman, as to make Earth vulnerable for invasion. If they had wrote it that way in _BvS_ or wrote it that Lex was being manipulated by Darkseid or Steppenwolf, it'd honestly make a bit more sense.
Lois should shut the fuck up and stay in the background. This is the type of damsel in Distress people I hate. They think they can be so tough and act like they're invincible and think the villain won't easily kill them.
Rigor Berzerk why should she shut the fuck up? She has a point. Cyborg Superman. Is nothing more than a colossal Metal baby throwing a temper tantrum. Lois has been kidnapped several times by super villains with far more reasonable motives, that in comparison cyborg superman is nothing more than a joke to her. That’s why I love Lois Lane. She takes shit from no one
3:07, 3:14 Darkseid creates Doomsday, his weapon of mass destruction and uses Cyborg Superman to terrorize the identity and reputation of the Man of Steel!
@@killstreak8 you guys realize in this movie, Darkseid does fucking say that he used Doomsday as a weapon to kill Superman. I didn't like it either, cuz I knew this was very different.. but that's still how it was.
"This isn't about your wife and you know it." Agree with Lois. Hank is an idiot. Superman helping shouldn't render people to be dependent on him, so count your blessings. Supes doesn't owe the world a thing.
@@whimsinator2982 Who's Louis? Also, Superman never promised he'd be there for everybody, only that he'd help where he can. That means that if he's too busy saving some people, others might not make it. You can't be in two places at once.
*VS Raiden* You are beyond saving, Hank Henshaw. *VS Scorpion* You have wasted your vengeance, Hank Henshaw! *VS Sub-Zero* Abomination! You traded your own soul for this?! *VS Liu Kang* You left me no choice, I shall put your poor soul to rest. *VS Noob Saibot* Terri's soul dwells in the Netherrealm because of you. *VS Geras* Kronika will restore Terri and your lost humanity.
VS Mileena Another face too repulsive to eat On your knees Henkshaw or Shang Tsung will erase Terri's soul VS Rain You're clearly worse than Argus VS Spawn Careful now. Terri might become the next Hellspawn VS Kabal What the hell did Terri see on you? VS Kung Lao End this Henkshaw! Nothing can revive your wife! VS Jade By the Gods, YOU LET DARKSEID REDUCE YOU TO THIS?!
This man went through so much trauma so fast. He's missing his wife and is still in grieving. He also lost nearly all of his human body. I think anyone would be a crazed state if that happened.
@@TheRuneTail I'm not saying it's not his fault or that he's in the right. I'm saying that he's not thinking straight cause of everything that happened to him in quick succession. He knows he could have easily got them out of there before things went tits up. He's lashing out cause he knows this
My favorite subversion of this trope was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Giles says to Dark Willow is this what Tara would want? Dark Willow: Why don't you ask her yourself? Proceed to drop half a wall onto him!!!
I always had the feeling that i have seen this story even before this movie release and just now realized that because a SNES game back in the day named "The death and return of Superman". It have the exact same storyline.
"How about my wife? Was there a way out for her?" Actually, YES! THERE WAS! You could've listened to your crew and her, and gotten out of the way of the asteroid, but instead you went full fanboy and waited for help that would never come, from someone who barely knew anything about you!
Something about seeing Superman use guns is just.......awesome lol. The long hair is also awesome. I remember a few comics from way back(like during the 90’s) where Superman had long hair for a while and I assumed that would be his new look and loved it. Nope, back to the swirl cut lol
Hank Henshaw takes control of the Green Lanters Manhunters in the 2010ish comics. His character growth is kind of all over the place though. It's difficult to follow what he does from issue to issue. He kind of plot teleports if that makes sense.
" How about... to kill a mockingbird? " In the comics That is the line that let Lois know that the black suit superman was Clark. Because that was his all time favorite movie.
Hank shouldn’t have put so much faith in Superman to save his wife. Just because he has powers that doesn’t make him a godly figure that is always there when needed.
"She's dead because of you!" Superman: Actually it's your fault She's dead. She could've stayed on Earth monitoring the mission making sure everything works correctly yet you wanted her to go with you. You allowed the God of destruction to warp your mind turning your very thoughts into pure hatred towards me. You're just another weapon, a pawn in someone else's game. So like Lois said none of this is about her, it's about you. Nothing but you.
I love that this shows that you can't equate Super Heroes to gods even though they may seem like at times. You can expect Super heroes to come and solve all your problems or save you, you have to take the initiative to try and save yourself or find ways out of your current situation.
This fight shows that Krytonians even without their superpowers from yellow sun, are naturally more durable than normal humans, hence how Superman was still able to put up some fight even when depowered.
1:37 THIS is what Lex is afraid will happen! This is what he sees humanity will becoming with superman protecting it. And that is why he considers superman a menace. Cause it will make people overconfident, put the load of being safe on one alien being. And not take responsability for when things go wrong.
The animated universe seemed to know what they were doing more than the movies. I wasn't a fan of the animation or some of the decisions, but I liked these more than anything the live action movies had done in the past 9 years. With the exception of Wonder Woman and the James Gunn stuff.
To be honest, I don’t blame Hank for feeling the way he does Superman is seen as a god that can hear any cry from help from all over the world and be there in a second, two if its a bad day, yet he didn’t come when HE needed him However, it was still his fault for not acting and relying on Superman to solve his problem
Sound doesn't travel in space; superman literally had no way of knowing any of this was going on. This is actually brought up elsewhere (in the comics at least), as it's why Hal Jordan doesn't realise Coast City is being messed up while he's in orbit.
Spawn and Image Comics was so popular in the early 90's, Marvel and DC did some drastic stuff to get their readers back. Killing Superman and killing Xavier temporarily created new heroes and new universes to re-engage old readers. Everyone can have their own opinion if those story arcs were good, creative or successful but make no mistake about it, if it wasn't for Image Comics, Marvel and DC would probably be shelling out the same old stories today.
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“Over my dead body”- Classic line directly from the comic story...
nmr20067
I prefer the original context of the line in the comics.
A resurrected Superman emerges from a robot, a news report says Cyborg Superman destroyed Coast City and that Metropolis is his next target. Superman hears this and vows, “Over my dead body.”
Give me the comic version any day of the week
Epic
If you're going to have the protagonist say that line, you fail to use it to full effect if you don't have the antagonist no-sell it and immediately respond with "that's what I had in mind" or words to that effect.
right, but there are so many stories of other people and characters saying this line.
Yeah and Parallax Hal Jordan emerges after the shitstorm of Coast City he couldn’t stop because he traveling galaxies and conversing with spectre and all of that shit. Leading to Emerald Twilight And eventually Final Night after the Infamous Zero Hour.
There is a Chinese saying for this. Help a person once they will forever be great-full, help them all the time and they will be resentful of you once you are no-longer able to.
I experience that with my sister. I help her so many times, but the one time I don't, I'm a fuxking villain.
Kev Jumba fr tho
That's a damn good saying
that's what populism is
yeah ive experienced this
DC should seriously consider putting their animated movies up on theaters instead of DVD
@Roy Nelson
Because its the start of the Justice League
@Roy Nelsonthey do. Just limited showing in selected cinemas.
Roy Nelson so as in the dceu movies
@Roy Nelson What does that have to do with what he's talking about?
They used to.
Henshaw is both tragic and pathetic. He was the one who took his wife into space and it was Darkseid who sent Doomsday to Earth crashing into Henshaw's ship along the way. As for Henshaw his entire escape plan was Superman will save them (but it's kind of hard for him to hear you when you're in space where sound doesn't travel). So now he's fallen into the classic villain trope of "Never My Fault" and blaming the hero for his problems.
So true my friend
On the other hand, he's been brainwashed and is no longer capable of rational thought.
Trust me he is worse in the comics.
@Pup DaNi He still can’t be everywhere at once. He can’t save everyone.
...Are you, too, a troper?
People are out here saying "DC should put their animated movies in theaters" I'm out here saying "Whoever writes the animated movies should be in charge of writing their live action ones too"
It’s not a problem of “bad writers vs good writers”. The problem is that big budget movies are less likely to take risks because they have more to lose. Everything needs to be corporate approved. Even if the writers are good, they are limited by executive meddling.
A relatively low-budget straight-to-DVD movie on the other hand, can basically let the writers do whatever they want.
@@cartoonishidealism582 that's exactly what happens their live action movies were also written by extremely talented people like Chris terrio man he is a Oscar winning writer,then their is David s goyer same guy who wrote TDK trilogy so how the hell are the live action writers bad lmao...real problem are executives not creators
now that would make me watch the movies
Yup
@@brajabadusahoo9570 yall are sooo right, it’s honestly all money 🤷♂️ id like to think DC tries, but hey we cant all be perfect like Disney. I say give DC more time they still have so much to work with. Im excited.
"She's dead because of you"
Why, because he couldn't save your ship in time? No matter how much everyone wants to think it, he can't be everywhere at once, and save EVERY life. Superman is just ONE guy.
Cyborg is insane but a genius at the same time
Well said
He was written better in the comics. The fact that he couldn't explain what had happened to him and the fact that Terri died drove Hank into madness, and he began developing delusions and inaccuracies of what really happened. He needed something to blame for his tragedy, and he chose Superman. So his mind crafted its own story that Superman threw something into the Sun, causing the spaceship that he and Terri were in to fill with radiation and crashland. It had nothing to do with Darkseid or Superman not being there in time. Cyborg Superman's motive is all his rage, grief, and frustration directed at the world.
Ivan Del Bianco no, they’re not a farce.
Batman was already rushing to Jason Todd when the bomb blew up the warehouse. Hank never delivered any signal for Superman or the JL to save him. You think with all the crimes on Earth, they are able to respond to a call made in outer space? How entitled can you be to always demand a rescue when million others also needed saving?
Both Hank and Jason Todd are egoistic maniacs that blames their own personal failures and tragedy to their idols. At least Jason was redeemed in some story arcs as an anti-hero that works with the Bat-family to solve crimes in Gotham.
Hank merely used Superman to rid himself of all guilt in causing the death of his wife, even though it was clearly his failure as a husband and her commander.
Actually, according to the last movie "Death of Superman", Hank was the one who suggested that they should stay and wait for Superman while his wife wanted to leave. Also, if Darkseid saved him, why didn't Hank wondered why Darkseid save him but not his wife and him. If anything, Cyborg Superman should get revenge on Darkseid instead of Superman.😒😒😒
Metal Gear Superman vs Solid Snake Superman
Chrishimoto lol true
That sounds good
Punished Snake Superman
@0ddMonk3y Government's bitch? If anything Big Boss was the one who was used by the Patriots the most, Solid actually ended and fought against them.
0ddMonk3y literally superman is only the govts bitch in tdkr, which has the edgiest adaptations of batman and superman. Supes is mostly against the govt most of the time lol
Superman: I may never may never fully recover.
*Gets a few seconds of sunlight*
Superman has seemingly fully recovered.
that's why he's super, pal
I don't think this version of Superman hasn't discovered that his power can be fully regenerated by the sun until later on.
Kal’el was still bleeding from the face after a couple of punches to the head tho.
So how did Lois know?
@@Sonic-hq9zz everyone knows he get his powers from the sun
I guess Superman should know now that the trigger words he needs to avoid are Martha and Terry.
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
Or basically don't say anyone's names at that matter.
Some guy 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣
Some guy 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣
@@VertigoX26 welp he ded now
Damn this all black super suit superman looks amazing
Symbiote Superman
Noir superman
We could have had this suit in justice league but it was too dark and spooky and goth and melancholic for warner brothers.
George TMN Its was cuz They wanted Superman’s return to show “hope,inspiration,etc.” and with his bright superman suit
And eventually, you stopped thinking.
When this Superman’s upper lip looks more realistic than the CGI one
😂😂😂😂
For fuck sakes stop fucking hating on the movie it's getting way more hate than it should be
When??? I guess whenever you imagine it
@@CzarKaizanIrani snyder's fault
Travis Mitchell 😀😁😁
A thought suddenly struck me.
Anyone else realize that the true villain in this movie was what Lex Always said it would be?
A world to reliant on Superman to solve their problems and save themselves.
And here we have the ultimate outcome of that.
That’s a personal choice. You can choose to be always reliant on someone or be self sufficient. You don’t see Batman or the Flash asking for Superman all the time. They nearly die plenty of times but make it out anyway without asking because they know they are self sufficient enough.
This is entirely Hanks' fault tho
To be fair apocalypse was also putting cybernetics out onto the streets like they were heroin
"How about for my wife? Was there a way out for her?"
Yes, actually. You could've followed proper protocol instead of expecting Superman to save you.
She's dead because of your poor judgment.
No, superheroes are never there when they need them most. Some examples are Jason Todd and Hank Hanshaw. They needed them, and they abandoned them. Heroes are a great farce.
Just to be clear, Batman was never at fault for Jason's death. He was rushing to save him. The Joker/readers (more like 1 reader with a bunch of time and money) killed him off. Batman was never to blame.
@@activeoffline6772 as in case of jason todd.. joker got carried away beating him up to death with or without realizing that but pretty sure does not give a damn about waiting just went ahead venting out on jason todd
@ You obviously don't know what a superhero is or represents if you completely believe that they abandon the people they try to save. Literally every story of a superhero I have ever seen is them trying to get from point A to point B so they can save person C. Its as if youve forgotten that Villians exist, or just obstacles in general that stop Superheroes from saving everyone. Being ENTITLED to the fact that YOU, specifically YOU, must be saved in a given situation is a very dumb belief to have and I do not respect it at all. You're the one who got yourself in that situation, so tell me why a hero or anyone for that HAVE to save you? Did you forget that heroes can easily and I mean EASILY use their powers for evil and just end you on the spot? Or is it just more convenient to blame someone else for your own fault? Get the fuck out of here with that "Heroes are a farce" bullshit.
On the flip side I AM sorry, just that comment ticked me off a little. I don't have any ill-will towards you, I just hate the idea that people seemingly feel the deserve something and call out the opposition when it is themselves who put them in that situation.
@@galaxyman2567 I agree. As much as we hope that heroes can save everyone, not everyone can be. There's only one hero who can but that's only if we choose him as our savior and that's Jesus Christ.
hank did it ever occur to you that if you had agreed to leave the ship with the others instead of waiting for superman your wife would have been alive? superman is not a god he can't save everyone. alien or not, he's just one man. you could have saved everyone but you chose not to. what i want to know is, why? because i know it's not just cuz of superman.
Facts
Devin Sears this reminds me of incredibles 2 actually
DC is so retarded.
@@HyperVegitoDBZ lol how ironic
Jedijazz4 he thought Superman would always be there to save the day
“Is this what Terry would want?”
“WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!”
Man. Superman really does have a bad habit of saying sensitive names of people he's fighting.
@@cunnyman true
Damn it, I’m always too late
Is this what Lois would want?!
Superman (Injustice): "WHY DID YOU SAID THAT NAME?!"
Hank: "How about my wife?! Is there a way out for her?!!"
Clark: "Actually, yes. Let me go get Barry."
This is an underrated comment!
He can time travel too.but hasn't done that since the 70's.
And erase the universe again?
Not for another few movies.
lol
"Could you gimme a minute to fly around the earth really fast? I know, it sounds crazy, but if I turn the world backwards...
"This isn't about your wife, and you know it - it's about _you!"_
^ Just about sums up everybody who tries to "avenge" someone they loved; when it boils down to it, they aren't truly doing it for the person they lost (or, at the very least, was badly hurt) - they're doing it to make _themselves_ feel better about the pain they felt.
That can literally go for any human affection you date someone so you can make yourself happier so I never really got the point of this
Darth hidious thats entirely different to getting revenge cuz superman didnt save the day even tho u kinda put urself in that situation
Darth hidious No because that affection is mutual. A corpse in the ground doesn’t care about vengeance.
John wick in a nutshell, he reverts back to his old life after his wife dies for revenge. After he kills his dog's killer, it's not about his wife anymore, it's about him going back into the sin he does best: killing
Not everyone.
So let me get this straight, he knew Darkseid made Doomsday, knew that the rock headed toward him and his team was doomsday, this killing them and his wife, yet still somehow blamed it on Superman? If Doomsday's meteor didn't kill him, I'm pretty sure his stupidity just did.🙄🤨😤😠
@Ultra Boy1000 Well said, but all in all, still a good character. I appreciate your analyzation. when faced w/ a character like this, it best to jot down the core elements of why they do what they do, so thank u very much.
@Barbara Jefferson I don't think Hank knew that the meteor had Doomsday. After the shuttle was destroyed, Hank's body was the only one unaccounted for, meaning Darkseid took him, made him into Cyborg Superman and told him of Doomsday being in the meteor.
To be fair, you don't become the pet project of a New Dark God and come out of it with a clear and insightful perspective on the actions of said Dark God.
It would be Better if He Said to Superman "Hey Superman i know Darkseid and what his Plans are i can prepare you and The Justice League to Fight Him" But if that happened we wouldn't of Gotten this Awesome Fight😂
Originally henshaw was good person, as we saw in the 1st movie, but here he is brainwashed by darkseid to belive things othewise
DC should stick to animated movies. You could feel for Hank here too.
Shadow The Human are you of the impression that DC does live action Films. The DCEU is all WB. Sure DC advises them but WB and their mandates messes it up. Unlike their animated ventures DC has no control over cinematic films. In fact you should be hoping that DC starts making films. Because WB doesn't know what they are doing.
Or hire a better CGI unit..and get Snyder back.
@@Skeletoncross they are too brief for a live action film
P J Cgi? Mate did you fucking watch Aquaman?
Agree with you here.
You know things go wrong when Superman needs to use guns.
He didn't get sunlight what so ever when he just came back
@bryan diaz varela it is not how his powers work. His tactile telekinesis and his kryptonian bio-electric aura are two different things.
bryan diaz varela he don’t even need a gun. Remember: faster than a speeding bullet.
All he need is to let go of all his moral restraints and become Injustice Superman.
@@gorillone86 what superman has those powers, pls explain
@@alexanderchristopher6237 but his weakened tho
0:38 Superman's "over my dead body" quote comes from the comics and animated movies including Superman: Doomsday and Reign of the Supermen!
Lame line.
Its also the most overused line in all entertainment
A lot of people in the DC Universe seem to forget that despite Superman's abilities and being considered a god to an average person, he is still one man that is also a mortal. He won't always be there to help or save people.
TheGamingArtist /Calvin Moore
Indeed
bro I know. people complain about mos because they were casulties. like he suppose to beat the vilain, save the building and a dog on the other side of the planet
Bullshit, people blame Batman all the time for the actions of his villians. The difference is Batman is willing to take responsibility for it. Superman of all people gives the most useless excuse ever, "he's just one man".
Nope, Superman is Immortal already stated by the Dr. Fate, Manhattan and The Writer
0:36 "Stay here"
Hank must be the one who designs jail cells in video games with gaps wider than the protagonist's body.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"that beast was just a mindless assassin, while i was set to a singular purpose"
so is that not a mindless assassin or
Shyre
It is
0:36 I love how she could just pull her hand out easily, but some magic force is keeping it trapped.
0:47 Superman: there's always a way out
Cyborg superman: What about my wife, was there a way out for her
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*flashback to spider man sam raimi trilogy*
"Just give me a chance"
"What about my uncle, did you give him a chance"
Yungboigotenks Ah, shit...
Then he beats up skinny smashmouth/ guy fierri.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HE DOES LOOK LIKE GUY FIERRI WITH THE STUPID HAIR
that’s actually one of my favorite lines in the trilogy. You can feel the scene! It’s dope!
Last chance
GOOOOOO
I love how Lois calls out Henshaw on his Bullcrap about his ego and that it had nothing to do with the death of his wife Teri.
This isn't some raging psycho just being evil.This is a man who lost everything,including his faith,due to unfortunate circumstances.A man with nothing to lose and nothing left to gain.
Say what you will about hank,but at least admit he's an amazing villain(especially compared to this versions darkseid).
Agree with 100 percent in this comment.
I still remember the time he was suicidal
no he isnt, hes an angry asshole taking his pain out on people who dont deserve it. being somewhat sympathetic dosen't make you a good villain
Betatron "Hank" is Henry Henshaw's (New-Earth) nickname.
He’s just having a temper tantrum and blaming his idol for his own failings as a leader and husband.
0:36
Lois: “oh nooo how will I ever escape this confinement? 🙄”
Probably best to stay there when a psycho cyborg pretending to be Superman is right in front of you.
@@Elemento0420 lol ikr 😂😂😂
@@Elemento0420 I would rather want to die than play pretend games with him.
@@JordanWheeler1999 but if you're lois lane considering how injustice works I'd say best not to die
@@itsjustvin7630 well first off your talking about the real superman avenging her death and killing the joker...
This isn't even the real superman?
What I love most about this fight is the rage you can feel in every one of hanks attacks. He hates Superman, he’s not holding back or getting easily and suddenly overpowered like many super hero fights. He gave it his all.
Hank Henshaw, the Cyborg Superman, he may not be Superman’s worst enemy but he’s definitely one of the most dangerous. Dan Jurgens not only gave us Doomsday, the creature that killed the Man of Steel, but he also gave us one of the most troubled and twisted villains of DC. Hope to meet him someday.
1:25 the face an anime character makes when they bouta go psycho
It's not anime...
@@tungavidyavijaya8960 Irrelevent.
There it is, I was looking for this comment!
@@tungavidyavijaya8960 it’s a reference…
1:02 Ahhh the ol' fist catch and squeeze with a badass stare combo. I see cybersupe is a man of class
Honestly, I do like the idea that Doomsday was created by Darkseid for the purpose of killing Superman, as to make Earth vulnerable for invasion. If they had wrote it that way in _BvS_ or wrote it that Lex was being manipulated by Darkseid or Steppenwolf, it'd honestly make a bit more sense.
That's exactly what they did in ZSJL
That Superman is the same of movie the death of Superman of 2018?
I just love Superman's black suit and long hair. He looks like something out of an 80's action movie.
Wow Howard Hamlin has been through a lot, poor guy.
Ikr, Slippin Jimmy did it all
0:38
No way that her hand’s stuck
If only logic could go threw DC'S or cartoons minds
The crushed rubble is far more malleable now, she could easily use her other hand to pull it out lol
Her hand is small enough to escape
THANK YOU
That metal bar was wide enough for anyone to escape.
Didn’t doomsday destroy Hanks ship? Then technically darksied is the reason his wife died. Shouldn’t he be mad at him?
Are you inserting logic?👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Bank's an idiot
Yeah, but he blames Supes because he didn't save him and his crew
@@layowebber9178 There's also the possibility that Darkseid *may* have tinkered with his brain to be on the safe side.
Love how this shows how complacent people got once Superman arrived on the scene. Everyone just expected him to solve everything.
"It's your fault superman!"
"YOU WERE IN A VACUUM OF SPACE HOW THE FUCK WOULD I HEAR YOU"
😂😂😂 love this comment 😂😂😂
"So, Kal-El, you have you thought anymore about the job?"
I'm with Lois :"Oh give it a rest and die" lol. I hate this type of villain, but the animation is great.
Lois should shut the fuck up and stay in the background. This is the type of damsel in Distress people I hate. They think they can be so tough and act like they're invincible and think the villain won't easily kill them.
Rigor Berzerk why should she shut the fuck up? She has a point. Cyborg Superman. Is nothing more than a colossal Metal baby throwing a temper tantrum. Lois has been kidnapped several times by super villains with far more reasonable motives, that in comparison cyborg superman is nothing more than a joke to her. That’s why I love Lois Lane. She takes shit from no one
3:07, 3:14 Darkseid creates Doomsday, his weapon of mass destruction and uses Cyborg Superman to terrorize the identity and reputation of the Man of Steel!
Darkseid didn’t create doomsday
@@killstreak8 Exactly. Doomsday is a Kryptonian that was experimented on
and killed over and over again.
Charles Doyle he’s just a marvel fan
@@killstreak8 you guys realize in this movie, Darkseid does fucking say that he used Doomsday as a weapon to kill Superman. I didn't like it either, cuz I knew this was very different.. but that's still how it was.
Doomsday and Cyborg Superman - Best DC Animated Universe villians. Can’t wait for Batman: Hush
Agree with you here.
Yes
Superman Looks like a Kryptonian soldier with this Suit and the Weapons.
I'm curious. Cyborg Superman hates Superman because he didn't save his family?...how is that his fault again???
"This isn't about your wife and you know it." Agree with Lois. Hank is an idiot. Superman helping shouldn't render people to be dependent on him, so count your blessings. Supes doesn't owe the world a thing.
Whoa Whereami
Agreed
@@whimsinator2982 Who's Louis? Also, Superman never promised he'd be there for everybody, only that he'd help where he can. That means that if he's too busy saving some people, others might not make it. You can't be in two places at once.
Supes schuldet der Welt, seiner einzigen Welt, alles.
*VS Raiden*
You are beyond saving, Hank Henshaw.
*VS Scorpion*
You have wasted your vengeance, Hank Henshaw!
*VS Sub-Zero*
Abomination! You traded your own soul for this?!
*VS Liu Kang*
You left me no choice, I shall put your poor soul to rest.
*VS Noob Saibot*
Terri's soul dwells in the Netherrealm because of you.
*VS Geras*
Kronika will restore Terri and your lost humanity.
VS Mileena
Another face too repulsive to eat
On your knees Henkshaw or Shang Tsung will erase Terri's soul
VS Rain
You're clearly worse than Argus
VS Spawn
Careful now. Terri might become the next Hellspawn
VS Kabal
What the hell did Terri see on you?
VS Kung Lao
End this Henkshaw! Nothing can revive your wife!
VS Jade
By the Gods, YOU LET DARKSEID REDUCE YOU TO THIS?!
This universe was so well written and developed just DAYHUM
This guy had a really unhealthy admiration and dependency on Superman.
I love that so many superheroe fights are basically just extremley violent arguments.
I love Lois telling Henshaw to give it a rest. Look, buddy it sucks that your wife and friends are dead but that’s not Superman’s fault!
Love how u can see the anime style influence
The voicing is top notch for Cyborg; you can hear the slight voice crack when he’s choking Superman plus his vocal range
That’ll be Howard hamlin
Cyborg: “Was there a way out for my wife?” YES! If he had listened to the crew she wouldn’t have died. Dude’s a serious mental case
This man went through so much trauma so fast. He's missing his wife and is still in grieving. He also lost nearly all of his human body. I think anyone would be a crazed state if that happened.
@@potatogeneral4072 you do realize it's his fault? His wife told him "we have to go" his response was "no we can wait, cause Superman will save us"
@@TheRuneTail I'm not saying it's not his fault or that he's in the right. I'm saying that he's not thinking straight cause of everything that happened to him in quick succession. He knows he could have easily got them out of there before things went tits up. He's lashing out cause he knows this
JUST ONCE when someone says "is this what so-and-so would want?" I want the other person to simply say "YES"
Or just say, "No, they're dead so who cares what they want".
Or "No, but it's what I want".
"They left me a script and I'm following it."
My favorite subversion of this trope was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Giles says to Dark Willow is this what Tara would want?
Dark Willow: Why don't you ask her yourself? Proceed to drop half a wall onto him!!!
No-one:
Superman: i love you
Louise: ClArK
I don't get it.
@@pikira2246 you know when superman dies and when he cones back to life he says "i love you" and that will convince louise that it's clark.
Louise lmaoooo louuuu ee sss
@@ClavinZKL you know its in reference to the last movie death of superman lol
@@henrynguyen3965 it happens everytime lol
Even Superman can't save everyone that needs saving.
I always had the feeling that i have seen this story even before this movie release and just now realized that because a SNES game back in the day named "The death and return of Superman". It have the exact same storyline.
This movie: Black suit is for healing.
That movie: Black suit looks amazing( "dark" Justice League)
"How about my wife? Was there a way out for her?"
Actually, YES! THERE WAS! You could've listened to your crew and her, and gotten out of the way of the asteroid, but instead you went full fanboy and waited for help that would never come, from someone who barely knew anything about you!
Something about seeing Superman use guns is just.......awesome lol. The long hair is also awesome. I remember a few comics from way back(like during the 90’s) where Superman had long hair for a while and I assumed that would be his new look and loved it. Nope, back to the swirl cut lol
Lois at 0:39: *I'll just pretend I can't slide my hand out of this until he looks away.*
Hank Henshaw takes control of the Green Lanters Manhunters in the 2010ish comics. His character growth is kind of all over the place though. It's difficult to follow what he does from issue to issue. He kind of plot teleports if that makes sense.
Lois: who is that ?!
Superman: its cyborg superman
Cyborg superman: no I am the terminator ☠️☠️☠️
Yep.
"I was sent back in time to stop Clark Kent."
" How about... to kill a mockingbird? " In the comics That is the line that let Lois know that the black suit superman was Clark. Because that was his all time favorite movie.
At 3:02 he got that perfect batman voice!
This guy really beefing Superman for something Superman didn't even know about lmao 😂
Hank shouldn’t have put so much faith in Superman to save his wife. Just because he has powers that doesn’t make him a godly figure that is always there when needed.
"She's dead because of you!"
Superman: Actually it's your fault She's dead. She could've stayed on Earth monitoring the mission making sure everything works correctly yet you wanted her to go with you. You allowed the God of destruction to warp your mind turning your very thoughts into pure hatred towards me. You're just another weapon, a pawn in someone else's game. So like Lois said none of this is about her, it's about you. Nothing but you.
Superman: "Over my dead body!"
Hank: "It wouldn't even be a first..."
DC always have the good animated movies
My favorite Superman suit good old Black and Silver
When Hank says, "She's dead because of you," the drawing of madness is the same when Joker reverts to his old self in The Dark Knight Returns, Part 1.
I love that this shows that you can't equate Super Heroes to gods even though they may seem like at times. You can expect Super heroes to come and solve all your problems or save you, you have to take the initiative to try and save yourself or find ways out of your current situation.
How you blame someone else for your failures
Black-suit Superman in this looks pretty dope
This fight shows that Krytonians even without their superpowers from yellow sun, are naturally more durable than normal humans, hence how Superman was still able to put up some fight even when depowered.
I've always liked Supes all black outfit, though he is at his best in red and blue. The armored look here is awesome.
Hank: Stay here. I'll deal with you later.
Clark: Over my dead body.
Hank: That's the plan.
The soundtrack to this is incredible
1:37 THIS is what Lex is afraid will happen! This is what he sees humanity will becoming with superman protecting it.
And that is why he considers superman a menace.
Cause it will make people overconfident, put the load of being safe on one alien being. And not take responsability for when things go wrong.
Hanks voice actor has a very intriguing voice
How would it be if Cyborg Superman appeared in the DCEU?
It would be amazing :')
@@johnnysniper3914
True Cyborg Superman is one of Superman's most underrated villains.
He would win if his mother's name was Martha
henry cavill would be incredible as CS
They could bring in Tylor Hoechlin who plays Superman in the tv series supergirl
Darkseid just likes making people into those half-robot things - just like Dr. Robotnik is always doing to animals?
Hey thats not Hank that's Howard!!
You know, if Hank had a signal watch, everything would have been fine.
Ik I'm years late to this but when Hank puts that metal on Lois Lane's wrist she can very clearly get out of that lmao
The animated universe seemed to know what they were doing more than the movies. I wasn't a fan of the animation or some of the decisions, but I liked these more than anything the live action movies had done in the past 9 years. With the exception of Wonder Woman and the James Gunn stuff.
"Over my dead boy"
Batman v Superman:
lol the impeccable logic of Hank Henshaw. because super man exists now he HAS to save you
Just saw Justice League Dark Apokolips War. What a sad way to end the entire DC Animated Universe.
Hate how this movie adaptation didn't show Cyborg Supes use any of his tech based weapons, like his plasma cannons and lasers.
To be honest, I don’t blame Hank for feeling the way he does
Superman is seen as a god that can hear any cry from help from all over the world and be there in a second, two if its a bad day, yet he didn’t come when HE needed him
However, it was still his fault for not acting and relying on Superman to solve his problem
Sound doesn't travel in space; superman literally had no way of knowing any of this was going on. This is actually brought up elsewhere (in the comics at least), as it's why Hal Jordan doesn't realise Coast City is being messed up while he's in orbit.
I love Superman’s dark blue eyes they are so beautiful.
Louis: *exist*
Superman: kept you waiting huh?!
*Lois
Spawn and Image Comics was so popular in the early 90's, Marvel and DC did some drastic stuff to get their readers back. Killing Superman and killing Xavier temporarily created new heroes and new universes to re-engage old readers. Everyone can have their own opinion if those story arcs were good, creative or successful but make no mistake about it, if it wasn't for Image Comics, Marvel and DC would probably be shelling out the same old stories today.
2:24 damn that's a strong pistol
Man i can't wait till I hit my puberty with the Kryptonian genes
(Prologue): What is their place in a world without Superman? (Final Battle): How do we live in a world without Superman? 2:33, 2:48
Reign of the Supermen (arc words)
A world without Superman
Be your own hero