I'm not a Twins fan, but I don't understand the anger about ownership coming out and saying Rocco and Falvey are staying put. That's a decision for a new owner and even if they did fire one or both, who would have to take that job knowing they'll probably get replaced once new ownership is place.
Luis Gil (13-7 for the Yanks this year) for Jake Cave, Brent Rooker 40 HRS and .300 for peanuts, Povich (left handed starter as a rookie for Orioles, pitched 7 shutout innings against Twins) and Yennir Cano (closer for the O’s) plus 2 prospects for Felipe Lopez, Dyson pickup, Mahle trade, Paddack trade, Donaldson pickup, Margot, Gallo, Jackson, Staumont, Richards, the list goes on and on. It’s Falvey’s incompetence that’s killing the Twins.
@Razorbacks1 I agree with you. The new owner shouldn't extend Falvey's contract. Joe Pohlad should only extend Falvey for one year if Falvey's contract runs through 2024 and if a new owner doesn't take over the Twins soon enough. Also, Pohlad should not extend Rocco's contract.
Judd is correct about the score keeping. Even the new damn video game The Show 24 is terrible about it. Any ground ball hit if it hits the glove and doesn't go in and the fielder has to then scramble to barehand it and throw it to 1st the runner makes it 85% of the time and every single time it shows that it is scored a base hit. The ONLY errors are throwing error that pull the guy off the base or sail over their head or wide. Same as outfielders. If it hits your glove its NEVER an error LOL. You bend down pick it up and throw it back in and its recorded a hit. Its the only way they can keep averages up when players strike out all the time and never make contact anymore.
its funny that you mention the ownership news and tv deals topics are getting most of the views. because thats the only twins info i'm interested in. #1 When am i going to be able to watch twins games again. #2 when will this franchise be bought out and by who and what kind of changes, if any, will they make. I've never been more excited about the twins
The reality is "if" the pohlad's sell the Twins, when new ownership comes in they will clean house bringing in new management and coaches. The new owners will also scrap the current roster and start a rebuild, we're looking at a long road here.
@@cronoesify I believe you're right, I also think the organization itself is more of liability than asset. Beyond the stadium the team has no superstar and the farm system is depleted, so I don't see the team being sold for 1.5 billion like it's been put out in public
@@benjames4502 Simply being a part of MLB, situated in a 15th ranked market is going to create some baseline in value. The farm system, or the people in place are not as representative of current or future value - those are all just "nice to haves". It is like a commercial real estate building in that sense: the current owner may have a few leases in place that are less than market rent, they may have a few tenants that are not as ideal for the market, but there is a baseline value to a commercial building situated in, say, a big market or a nice street that gives you automatic value. And as an aside - our farm system is actually one of the best in baseball right now. That has been one of the biggest criticisms about their lack of trades this past season - why not cash in on what has been a top 5 farm system when we have so many log jams coming ahead?
@@samweller96 People are trying to talk this in to existence, top 3 minor league system. All 5 Twins major league teams failed to make a playoff. The revised minor league ranking has the Twins 17th, when you eliminate Lee, Festa, Matthews etc from the dynamic.
The problem stems from hiring “top people” who they do not know enough or care about the sport enough to understand are not actually “top people”. When an owner is apathetic and doesn’t like or care about baseball, he’s going to botch pretty much every GM hire he has to do. That’s why they never want to let a GM go. Because they know they’re over their heads and don’t know a good GM from a bad one. Ownership has EVERYTHING to do with whether a team builds a winning, prospect development, savvy front office culture… everything. Once a bad/disinterested owner hires someone, they’re doomed… because the person they hire is obviously smart enough to play the game to pull the wool over the owners eyes for decades if he needs to.
No matter who becomes new owner, there's little chance of increasing payroll until Twins broadcast/streaming situation is finalized. They won't spend till they know their revenue. In fact they'll probably decrease payroll in 2025.
In baseball the sky is the limit, The Twins are a regional power very few clubs are that don't even fully tap into the Twin Cities fan base. The only people who are hurting the club are the owners, the unwillingness to invest and put together proper business models. Pohlad apologists, need not apply!
@@livingstongould4461three out of the four teams have some of the best scouting, drafting, and development departs in the majors. Those teams supplement their teams with free agents with what they produce in talent, if twins ownership and management was effective the Twins could run 200 million dollar payroll. Baseball isn't like other sports, there is a lot of luck and timing to be a winning team to get the chance to hang a banner. If you're so right, why doesn't LaD and NyY win it every year?
@@benjames4502genius level drafting and scouting almost always comes from an ownership that is interested enough in the sport to hire the right person to hire those key people. Not just look at BUSINESS numbers for his BUSINESS decisions to do good BUSINESS things The twins are lacking and have been lacking since the Pohlads first bought the team.
Exactly, which shows how horrible and disconnected the Pohlads are. They couldn’t even get themselves to give lip service to saying they want a championship, much less actually wanting it.
@@Bigbackkronkwanting a championship is a stupid poor fan thing, which is the opposite of what billionaire liberal snobs think about or want to emulate. They are nothing if not true to themselves. They think they are too good for sports or competition and they can’t lie that they don’t. That’s why inheriting a baseball team was the last thing they should have inherited
Nah. I want them gone. Just spending poorly isn’t trying. It’s just opening the purse strings for the poor GM you hired poorly because you don’t know enough about baseball to make an informed decision on GM
Maybe, or this year could be like 2021 where everyone knew they shoulda been gone before the season but we had to suffer thru a year of mediocrity anyways
The Wilfs are much smarter than the Pohlads at hiring the right management and coaches. The Pohlads don't know enough about baseball to hire the right management and coaches; they don't have the ability to evaluate how effectively Derek Falvey does his job. Falvey is incompetent in performing critical aspects of his job which results in the Twins winning significantly fewer games than they otherwise could; with a management change an increase in success could happen without spending more of the Pohlad's money.
@@Mark-gp3ccthey got Falvey on the cheap from the Guardians/Indians… he presented himself as one of the geniuses of their pitching development but he was likely overselling his impact big time, and they didn’t know enough to refute him. Falvey probably knew he had a golden opportunity when Ryan stepped down, because even if he was the coffee runner/office joke, he could walk into Pohlads office with a good presentation and ask for the job because nobody would be there to tell him otherwise. And even if Terry Ryan oversaw the interview, he was an old timer that had really no sense of what was going on in the end. What a lottery ticket Falvey stumbled on
The Pohlad's claimed poverty after the 2023 season, the record shows the ownership group made 19 million plus. Honestly, I'm tired of Pohlad apologist like you.
@@benjames4502-They lost $23m the previous year and $49m during the pandemic year. They will lose $40m in their TV deal when they switch to streaming. So, whatever.
are we looking at mlb baseball wants big markets team to win titles nor small market teams so where are you folks do the real they wont win world series ever again
@@benjames4502if Olive Garden is Italian to you, I encourage you to please get a passport and leave your country for once, I’m begging you. Olive Garden is Italian like Taco Bell is Mexican/Latin cooking
I'm not a Twins fan, but I don't understand the anger about ownership coming out and saying Rocco and Falvey are staying put. That's a decision for a new owner and even if they did fire one or both, who would have to take that job knowing they'll probably get replaced once new ownership is place.
Because they didn't tell us they were selling until after they announced they were staying put.
got to say, that was one of your better random twins. Declans response was hilarious. 😀
Luis Gil (13-7 for the Yanks this year) for Jake Cave, Brent Rooker 40 HRS and .300 for peanuts, Povich (left handed starter as a rookie for Orioles, pitched 7 shutout innings against Twins) and Yennir Cano (closer for the O’s) plus 2 prospects for Felipe Lopez, Dyson pickup, Mahle trade, Paddack trade, Donaldson pickup, Margot, Gallo, Jackson, Staumont, Richards, the list goes on and on. It’s Falvey’s incompetence that’s killing the Twins.
Sure is
@Razorbacks1 I agree with you. The new owner shouldn't extend Falvey's contract. Joe Pohlad should only extend Falvey for one year if Falvey's contract runs through 2024 and if a new owner doesn't take over the Twins soon enough. Also, Pohlad should not extend Rocco's contract.
Falveys trades are all moronic.
Hopefully they clean out the front office and coaching staff when the new owners take over. This roster is way too good to not make the playoffs
It isn't that good, and the big contract guys didn't play during the home stretch.
Judd is correct about the score keeping. Even the new damn video game The Show 24 is terrible about it. Any ground ball hit if it hits the glove and doesn't go in and the fielder has to then scramble to barehand it and throw it to 1st the runner makes it 85% of the time and every single time it shows that it is scored a base hit. The ONLY errors are throwing error that pull the guy off the base or sail over their head or wide. Same as outfielders. If it hits your glove its NEVER an error LOL. You bend down pick it up and throw it back in and its recorded a hit. Its the only way they can keep averages up when players strike out all the time and never make contact anymore.
its funny that you mention the ownership news and tv deals topics are getting most of the views. because thats the only twins info i'm interested in. #1 When am i going to be able to watch twins games again. #2 when will this franchise be bought out and by who and what kind of changes, if any, will they make. I've never been more excited about the twins
I now love when Phil says "crack the mic's."
The reality is "if" the pohlad's sell the Twins, when new ownership comes in they will clean house bringing in new management and coaches. The new owners will also scrap the current roster and start a rebuild, we're looking at a long road here.
I still think the Pohlads are absolutely looking to sell off this asset that they dont think they can manage any longer. Hope they find a buyer.
@@cronoesify I believe you're right, I also think the organization itself is more of liability than asset. Beyond the stadium the team has no superstar and the farm system is depleted, so I don't see the team being sold for 1.5 billion like it's been put out in public
@@benjames4502 Simply being a part of MLB, situated in a 15th ranked market is going to create some baseline in value. The farm system, or the people in place are not as representative of current or future value - those are all just "nice to haves".
It is like a commercial real estate building in that sense: the current owner may have a few leases in place that are less than market rent, they may have a few tenants that are not as ideal for the market, but there is a baseline value to a commercial building situated in, say, a big market or a nice street that gives you automatic value.
And as an aside - our farm system is actually one of the best in baseball right now. That has been one of the biggest criticisms about their lack of trades this past season - why not cash in on what has been a top 5 farm system when we have so many log jams coming ahead?
@@benjames4502The farm system is ranked top 10 in baseball. What are you talking about?
@@samweller96 People are trying to talk this in to existence, top 3 minor league system. All 5 Twins major league teams failed to make a playoff. The revised minor league ranking has the Twins 17th, when you eliminate Lee, Festa, Matthews etc from the dynamic.
The problem stems from hiring “top people” who they do not know enough or care about the sport enough to understand are not actually “top people”.
When an owner is apathetic and doesn’t like or care about baseball, he’s going to botch pretty much every GM hire he has to do. That’s why they never want to let a GM go. Because they know they’re over their heads and don’t know a good GM from a bad one.
Ownership has EVERYTHING to do with whether a team builds a winning, prospect development, savvy front office culture… everything. Once a bad/disinterested owner hires someone, they’re doomed… because the person they hire is obviously smart enough to play the game to pull the wool over the owners eyes for decades if he needs to.
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If new owner in next few months. Then they want new ball management. So the Pohlads kept the same staff then announced they wanna sell...jeez. Madness
No matter who becomes new owner, there's little chance of increasing payroll until Twins broadcast/streaming situation is finalized. They won't spend till they know their revenue. In fact they'll probably decrease payroll in 2025.
You can’t set a championship standard when teams are not playing by the same set of financial rules like the other leagues do.
In baseball the sky is the limit, The Twins are a regional power very few clubs are that don't even fully tap into the Twin Cities fan base. The only people who are hurting the club are the owners, the unwillingness to invest and put together proper business models. Pohlad apologists, need not apply!
@@benjames4502 3 of the last 4 team’s remaining this year have payrolls over 300 million dollars, Twins are playing a different game than those teams.
@@livingstongould4461three out of the four teams have some of the best scouting, drafting, and development departs in the majors. Those teams supplement their teams with free agents with what they produce in talent, if twins ownership and management was effective the Twins could run 200 million dollar payroll. Baseball isn't like other sports, there is a lot of luck and timing to be a winning team to get the chance to hang a banner. If you're so right, why doesn't LaD and NyY win it every year?
@@benjames4502genius level drafting and scouting almost always comes from an ownership that is interested enough in the sport to hire the right person to hire those key people.
Not just look at BUSINESS numbers for his BUSINESS decisions to do good BUSINESS things
The twins are lacking and have been lacking since the Pohlads first bought the team.
@@CineraryTerry Ryan did a good job in the early 2000's, you are right about ownership.
Red McCombs said he cared about championship
Exactly, which shows how horrible and disconnected the Pohlads are. They couldn’t even get themselves to give lip service to saying they want a championship, much less actually wanting it.
@@Bigbackkronkwanting a championship is a stupid poor fan thing, which is the opposite of what billionaire liberal snobs think about or want to emulate. They are nothing if not true to themselves. They think they are too good for sports or competition and they can’t lie that they don’t.
That’s why inheriting a baseball team was the last thing they should have inherited
Judd is 100% correct regarding hits and errors. Scorers are pathetic.
If they spend 30 million more dollars and we lose 100 games I’ll be okay with it, just show me an effort you are willing to try.
Nah. I want them gone. Just spending poorly isn’t trying. It’s just opening the purse strings for the poor GM you hired poorly because you don’t know enough about baseball to make an informed decision on GM
@@Cinerary I wasn’t talking about the Pohlads, I was talking about whoever would takeover.
@@bk0333 yes. I care about them hiring the best FO people first
If the Wilfs owned the Twins, Falvey and Baldelli would be gone just like Spielman and Zimmer.
Maybe, or this year could be like 2021 where everyone knew they shoulda been gone before the season but we had to suffer thru a year of mediocrity anyways
Wilfs would be running it like a business, just like the Pohlads.
The Wilfs are much smarter than the Pohlads at hiring the right management and coaches. The Pohlads don't know enough about baseball to hire the right management and coaches; they don't have the ability to evaluate how effectively Derek Falvey does his job. Falvey is incompetent in performing critical aspects of his job which results in the Twins winning significantly fewer games than they otherwise could; with a management change an increase in success could happen without spending more of the Pohlad's money.
But Falvey is safe (look at his 8 year track record… being pathetic and losing basically every trade he’s ever made)
@@Mark-gp3ccthey got Falvey on the cheap from the Guardians/Indians… he presented himself as one of the geniuses of their pitching development but he was likely overselling his impact big time, and they didn’t know enough to refute him. Falvey probably knew he had a golden opportunity when Ryan stepped down, because even if he was the coffee runner/office joke, he could walk into Pohlads office with a good presentation and ask for the job because nobody would be there to tell him otherwise. And even if Terry Ryan oversaw the interview, he was an old timer that had really no sense of what was going on in the end. What a lottery ticket Falvey stumbled on
Did we want the Pohlads to sell franchise shares to make payroll? Or have them sell one of their businesses?
The press and some fans expect owners to be some kind of fantasy unicorn.
The Pohlad's claimed poverty after the 2023 season, the record shows the ownership group made 19 million plus. Honestly, I'm tired of Pohlad apologist like you.
@@benjames4502-They lost $23m the previous year and $49m during the pandemic year. They will lose $40m in their TV deal when they switch to streaming. So, whatever.
I like the JEF
are we looking at mlb baseball wants big markets team to win titles nor small market teams so where are you folks do the real they wont win world series ever again
OK! Enough about the Twins. Just wait until next year, please! YAWN!
This is literally called the Twins Show....
Umm it's the skor north twins show for a reason 😁
Do you also complain about going to Olive garden only being able to order Italian food from an Italian restaurant?
@@benjames4502if Olive Garden is Italian to you, I encourage you to please get a passport and leave your country for once, I’m begging you. Olive Garden is Italian like Taco Bell is Mexican/Latin cooking
Do you know if the TV program 60 minutes is a 1 hour program ?