Does anyone know if the mid 2012 15" with the higher resolution screen option but not retina actually has a different screen or is done with the graphics chip/board? Thanks
yes... and no... the final iteration of the PowerBook G4s with the 1.67Ghz procs were not actually G4s. The very last models of PowerBook G4 (2005-2006) claimed to ship with a "PowerPC 7447B", which doesn't actually exist in any of Motorola or IBM literature. The chips that shipped in these late model PowerBooks were actually PowerPC 7448 processors underclocked to 1.67Ghz from their native clock speed of 2.0Ghz or 2.33Ghz depending on the piece of silicon, which are part of the "Apollo 8" CPU architecture vs. the "Apollo 7" CPU architecture of the previous model PowerPC 7447A that the immediately previous generation of PowerBook G4s shipped with. Also, the amount of on die memory was limited to artificially enforce 32 bit instruction capability, but otherwise the 7447B was essentially the G5 PowerBook that never was. Want proof? The final iteration of PowerBook G4 utilized DDR2 RAM, whereas the second to last PowerBooks utilized older DDR RAM. The reason for the decision to kneecap these processors by underclocking them and limiting them to 32 bits was twofold: G5s were quite fast for the time but were power hungry and generated substantial amounts of heat that the cooling system on the PowerBook G4 could not keep up with. The other reason for the decision was purely strategic - with the impending switch to Intel, the lowest model of the new intel Macs would ship with 32 bit Intel Core Duos (or Solos) clocked at 1.67 Ghz, so having a faster 64 bit option on an older product line was unacceptable. Despite Intel's CPUs being dual core, a similarly clocked single core G5 would run circles around their contemporary dual core Intel chips in terms of sheer performance in almost all benchmarks, not to mention being 64 bit (in all iterations of true G5 other than the intentionally hamstrung PowerBooks). Keep in mind that back in the early to mid 2000s, most computers still had a single core CPU and software was not written to take advantage of multi threading, so the only truly meaningful benchmarks and real world performance that mattered at the time were single threaded applications, which PowerPC excelled at while Intel was just okay at. Then you take into consideration the difference between RISC (PowerPC) vs. CISC (Intel) architecture and its easy to see why Apple made the decision to cripple the final iteration of PowerBook. If they hadn't, the new Intel based MacBook line would have been a complete failure. Apple's decision to move to Intel was pretty much entirely about their laptop line. While the G5s were more than powerful enough, IBM/Motorola failed to produce an energy efficient variant of the G5 that could be used in laptops without negatively impacting battery life, noise and heat output. Intel just happened to be "good enough" at the time. if a competing CPU architecture, eg; ARM or SPARC for instance were producing a viable CPU at the time, Apple likely would have switched to that. They did it before from 68K to PPC, and they'll do it again at some point in the near future from Intel to their own ARM based CPUs that are in use in their non-PC lines, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and Apple TV. Its only a matter of time.
My dad had both a Powerbook G4 and original 2006 MacBook Pro when I was growing up and those laptops helped shape my interest in technology. Apple's products may be overpriced, but they have lasting memories for me, and I will always remember the feel and use of these machines.
I honestly love the design of the first gen 17 inch macbook pro, I feel like it looks way better than the ones today. If software support and upgradability wasn't a complete issue, i would be using one right now
GeekRedux I love the mid-2012 MacBook Pro too, but for me the peak was 2014-2015 - already by 2012 very few people used the dvd drive, plus the mechanical hdd and the 1280x800 screen of the mid-2012 MBP were no match at all for the 2014-2015 MBP’s pinnacle flash drive/ssd drive and retina screen....not to mention the difference in weight and consequent portability. :)
Every time I look into upgrading my mid 2012 MBP I look at the specs and reviews comparing my maxed out 2012 vs the contenders and I go back to using my tried & true. She never lets me down!
Keep doing what you do Luke. Your channel is unique and always gets me thinking about my high school days (10yrs ago). Back when I was a broke Apple nerd and would just spend the days looking up MacBook info online lol. Now I’ve had my late 2013 15” for 6 years and just when it started becoming “normal” for me, your videos reminded me why I love these machines so much. Good job bro.
Amazingly the 2012 unibody (non-retina) MacBook Pro was on sale until October 2016! I remember being amazed seeing it on sale in Apple Stores for so long 😄
And guess what - I was so stupid that I bought one NEW in 2015. Up to this day I can't believe WTF I was thinking back then xD I got rid of this shit two years later.
@@Jambolineum I know, and I wonder even more WTF I did because I'm very PC-Phone-Tech-etc. guy xD Now I could have money for newest one... FeelsBadMan XD
@@zaaajac I bought myself that exact model :D I'm a Windows and Android guy trough and trough (but I had my Apple time, also like collecting iPods of various generations), but I wanted a Notebook. The Mid 2012 had no flaws in terms of motherboard related issues, the non retina has also enough steam for driving the LCD. I upgraded to High Sierra, added SSD, more RAM and that thing runs Win 10 and my BMW Diagnosis software well. Also driving a external F-HD Monitor and the internal one, watching a 1080p video on one and chrome on the other, works well. ^^
"When the new generation of MacBook Pro comes out, it very well might blow your socks off, they might fix the thermal issues, they might have a really amazing display, new keyboard, it might be amazing." - Luke Miani, pre-M1
I’d say the 2015 is still objectively the best, unless you need the power of the 2019. Nvidia cards and better battery life would make the 2015 totally perfect.
Even though I have the resources to acquire a 15" Retina MBP from 2016 I still choose (without blinking) a mid-2012 15" MBP, Why? For my computer needs, it checks all the marks and a major benefit is the upgradeability the device has. Being able to easily swap the battery, RAM chips, SSD and even add another disk drive is so awesome. Long live the mighty Unibody MacBook Pro!!!
Unibody is far too old already, dude. Heavy, slow and plenty wasted space with that antiquated DVD-drive. Get a 2015 MBP which is the best compromise of reliability, portability, performance and price!
@@ImpactSpace you know the 2012 macbook pro can be upgraded right? The ram can be replaced for 16gb, you can change out the hard drive for as much ssd as you want and replace the optical drive for yet another ssd. The 2012 macbook pro is still a powerful machine.
I wish Apple would bring the unibody back and kicked the touchbar , but still the option to have a touchbar or normal buttons, the new unibody has modern processor , modern gpu , upgradeable flash , 1080P/4K blu ray drive , and that the new unibody has a retina screen.
I love the design of those original MacBook Pros. The keyboard backlight looked so good on them, the bezels looked amazing on it, the breathing light - Loved it all.
I own an early 2011 unibody Macbook pro 13 inch and I absolutely love it. I have done some upgrades myself like swapping out the mechanical drive to a solid-state drive and maxed out the ram and reapplied thermal paste as well. It runs really well but there are times I want to update this computer to a newer model either 2012 or 13 but I decided not to because I have had this Macbook pro for well over a couple of years now and it's running smoothly and if something goes wrong it's easily repairable. In my opinion, I think the 2011 13 inch Macbook pro is the best computer out there with a few modifications. 👍
damnn i wish i had this experience! also own an early 2011 MBP 13 inch - replaced the ram, HD to SSD and battery a few years ago but i think its finally coming to the end of its life span. i still have overheating problems sometimes. fan speed always maxed out even when theres no heating issues (which i fixed with an app), USB ports and headphone jack don't work all that well anymore and my wifi antennas are slightly messed up 😩 - granted i did use this device in highschool and didnt treat it all that well for a long time.. probably could've gotten better use out of it if i did. still works pretty well all things considered!
@@DejaMiru Sorry to hear that. Mine becomes overheated at times too but I think that's because it's old and had issues from the start. When I applied thermal paste, those issues slowly declined but the fan still runs at full speed now and then especially when I'm editing my photos and videos. But, all is running smoothly except for a few issues like the fan running at full speed and the overheating issue and a few crashes here and there but, either way, I love this computer and I take very good care of it.
My favorite MacBook is the Mid 2012 13" MacBook Pro, I have been using the little guy for about three years now and it's still running like a champion. Although it's not great for gaming, I find it decently usable for some mild games. Also the sheer upgradability of the MacBook made me adore it even more. I changed out the stock 500gb HDD with a 500gb SSD in literally under 10 minutes. Also upgraded the 4gb of ram to 16gb of ram all in under 15 minutes. It's a great machine, and I'm happy to see that Apple still supports it under macOS Catalina.
I've had 4 or 5 Apple laptops since about the mid 90s, basically starting with the Powerbook 540C. Current machine is a mid 2012 15" Retina, and it continues to kick 1s and 0s square in the ass.....knock on aluminum....
10:39 I will never understand the hate for butterfly keyboard and touchbar. The touchbar is one of the most innovative things ever made, why is there so much hate?
Mid 2012. Purchased in early 2013 and still using it as it is my computer. Performed upgrades and replaced the touchpad and battery myself. I do a complete tear down yearly to clean and reapply the thermal paste. Just like my 94 GT hybrid bicycle, regular maintenance keeps things running.
My late 2013 15” top spec is by far my favourite. Especially since I can replace the SSD with a faster larger OWC one and keep it running for years to come. My late 2018 MBP is my daily work horse, but I still love taking the 2013 on the road and abroad and it just packs a punch!
Gosh, I remember watching and rewatching the MacWorld keynote from 2006 when they introduced the first one. 🤯 My Late 2013 13” is still going exceptionally strong. I edit videos with it every day 👍
@@jellyjordy1154 It's mine... Try a 2,53Ghz, more L2 cache. Processor suffer too much in this 2,4Ghz. And Try find a 9600GT 512MB, my Mac have 256MB, FullHD RUclips videos runs with a little lag... I Make all upgrades, 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz, and 240GB SSD, Still using DVD superdrive. Maybe I will replace DVD with another backup SSD. Ohhh... This model have a PCI Express slot, you can buy a USB3.0 adapter and try to install a external GPU.
The 8 core 2019 Mbp 15" seem to have solved the cooling problem. I have no thermal problems and when don't use the machine hard it does no longer get the fryingpan over the keyboard, The difference from the 6 core i9 in the 2018 model is like day and night.
I've been using a mid 2012 13 inch Macbook Pro for 5 years, and only had a hard drive issue at one point. I eventually got 16 gbs of ram and its been perfectly fine
those are fantastic machines! i worked on refurbishing That model for a friend.. i have the 2011 version , both were 13"... the 2012 is faster and smoother graphics and runs the newest systems more easily...urs has the ivy bridge cpu vs sandybridge in mine and 1600mhz mem vs 1333 and 1500mb graphics ram while mine is 512...many improvements and urs will run Much cooler with the ivy bridge
Early notification squad yee I use a Late 2013 Retina MacBook Pro 13" as my main computer, and it runs well, except it doesn't fit my usage. I am proud of the little guy, it has a great display, great design, a good keyboard and trackpad. But of course, it has flaws, mainly physical. It has a few dings on the corners and it has severe screen coating wear. And as an unwanted bonus, a tiny piece of glass from its display has broken off near the bottom edge.
Hugh Batchelor Regarding MacBook Pro and ssd query I bought 15" MacBook Pro 2012 Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro9,1 Processor Name: Intel Core i7 Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz Number of Processors: 1 Total Number of Cores: 4 L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB L3 Cache: 6 MB Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled Memory: 16 GB Is it better than 2018 MacBook Air 8gb ram ?
@@vishalthakral1470 I would search Luke Miani's channel and find the video where he discusses the MacBook Pros and the best one to buy. Also Louis Rossmann did a similar video a while back. I chose the A1286 because it is a great performer when upgraded, is absolutely reliable and I needed the bigger screen too. Hope this helps. Cheers.
I'm still using my Late 2011 13" MacBook Pro with its original 500Gb HDD and 4Gb of ram. I never changed the battery and it can always give me 5-6 hours. Soon I will replace the HDD with a SSD
Bobama Patel Regarding MacBook Pro and ssd query I bought 15" MacBook Pro 2012 Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro9,1 Processor Name: Intel Core i7 Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz Number of Processors: 1 Total Number of Cores: 4 L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB L3 Cache: 6 MB Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled Memory: 16 GB Is it better than 2018 MacBook Air 8gb ram ?
I think it's worth noting that the late 08 and early 09 so-called unibody Pro's were actually made from 2 sheets of aluminum, and that the exhaust is designed in a way that heats the glue that's holding it together.
I was using a 2007 MacBook Pro even now in 2021. Even if it was running on an older MacOS release i was still capable to use it for basics taks, watching videos and Netflix was still great in my surprise (not on high resolution) making documents, searching the web was no problem either. Macs do really last for a lot of time and with so upgrades, they lasts even longer.
I still have my macbook pro core 2 duo unibody, and it still works perfectly. Those where the days i was really into apple, i looked forward to ever keynote lol.
I just bought a old MacBook Pro first gen,the sticker on it said that intel core duo 2.16 ghz with one gb of ram but when I took the ram Shield off both sticks said 1gb yet both of them had the apple service sticker on it The system is supposed to be running os snow Leopard on it but I haven’t been able to check because my mag safe charger hasn’t arrived in the mail yet,the whole point I got it was for nostalgia.
My favorite MBP is the one I currently have 2019 16 inch i9 1 TB model. I just recently upgraded from my previous 2009 MBP. I really loved that model, which I had for exactly 12 years. I upgraded from 4 to 8 GB ram and eventually to a SSD drive. The battery needed to be replaced, which I purchased at the same time as my SSD. I went to it install myself, I couldn't get the screws loose and I never got around to taking it somewhere to have someone to replace it. My speakers went bad, the trackpad was hard to press (I think the battery was swollen) and several months before upgrading to my new MBP, my Magsafe adapter kept shorting out and half of my screen was not displaying properly. It was a good system. As soon as I unboxed my 2019, and turned it on, I instantly fell in love, a much better system than my previous one.
I still rock a 2012 15 inch and it is THE most reliable laptop I’ve ever owned. I’m glad it’s gotten Catalina support and hope I can use it for years to come.
1:53 “keep in mind the g5 power book was only a year old...” There was no G5 powerbook. They could never get the chip set in to the powerbook body because it ran WAY to hot for a laptop style computer.
Your channel is great. Great voice, laid back delivery and always on point without unnecessary digressions and distracting attempts at humor. I shall subscribe!
I just bought today a mid 2012 MacBook pro 13 inch and I am very happy with it, its loading everything I need without issue and I will be using it for work, unless you do a lot of hardcore work on them or want to try gaming, its not worth spending the extra money. Plus the MagSafe charger, chiclet keyboard and light up apple logo are all great benefits too.
damn i saw this guy started up from 12k subscribers and saw potential for him even then with his videos and smooth panning, and at the time typical of a tech reviewer / budding youtuber. now 82k subscribers already how time flies
I've had my 2011 base model 11" Air (2GB RAM!) for 8 years now and it's had next to no issues. (Lasted far longer than both the Windows laptops I've had in the meantime.) Was about to get a 2019 Pro 13" but instead I got a 2015, which I'm absolutely loving so far!
I have a mid 2015 15" retina MacBook Pro, base model with the Iris Pro and I love it. I don't suffer the lack of dedicated graphics, I can work on all my projects easily. My mum still has her early 2008 MacBook Pro, that she uses basically for web browsing, that still works perfectly
My favorite generation is the one from 2014. I dislike that they took away ports and made the keys "thinner"... if that makes sense lol. I was on the fence about upgrading but I think I'll wait until I REALLY need to.
Weirdly. I still can't get enthusiastic of moving on from my 2012 15". Like ports, even like the DVD option. Love upgradability. How much big a "disk drive" can this take I wonder?
I LOOOOOVE the classic MacBook Pro design, the early 2008 15" MBP is my favorite Mac EVER. Unfortunately it's too slow for me, I owned a maxed out 2,5 GHz model with 6 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD back until 2015 when I decided it was too choppy in daily usage for my purposes. It was a special replacement model that was manufactured in December 2008 which didn't have that graphics card issue. I was very lucky with that one. And unfortunately the case was really too delicate. I am a cautious person and it bent in several spots within two years of usage.
My 2012 retina 15" started having graphical issues when watching HD video (which is 90% what I use it for) so I got a 2011 17-in i7 and put 8 gigs of ram in an SSD into it. It's a shame it can't natively run Catalina, I noticed on my 2012 that Catalina was faster than high Sierra by a decent bit, but I patched Catalina onto the 2011 and it was way choppier, so no dark mode, but other than that no performance issues on the 2011 on high Sierra
Great video. Just recently upgraded my late 2013 spec'd out MacBook Pro for a spec'd out 16" 5600M.. I'm glad I held off. What a beast. I missed the boat on getting a spec'd out 2015 15" MBP when the pricing made sense before they ruined it with those butterfly keys & thermals. That late 2013 was a workhorse of a machine tho. Only needed two battery replacements & helped me edit over 200 videos, many of which in 4K. Can't wait to see what they do with their Apple Silicon.
Unibody Macbook Pro 15.4" from Late 2008 with ExpressCard slot (instead of SD Card slot) - Still runs perfect til this day and thanks to that ExpressCard slot I was able to upgrade ports to USB 3. The best Laptop i have ever owned.
I am enjoying my MacBook Pro 17" 2008 with some upgrades (SSD and Ram) plus the custom OS from dosdude1. I like the fact that it is upgradable and that the screen has a pretty good resolution (1920x1200) for its age. I also like the matte finish of the display. It runs the Mojave with only one apparent bug which is the display brightness that is always down. I found a little application that fixes it but I would like a real fix. I don't need extreme power. With the SSD and more RAM, it feels snappy and boots fast. Great videos by the way. You're one of my favorites RUclipsrs.
Same here I got 16gb of ram on mine. Waiting to see when the good 15inch ones go down some more or the MacBook Air/MacBook gets a CPU refresh. Fingers crossed.
I started with the original (yes ORIGINAL) Mac before hard drives. Age and income have stopped my hardware purchases with a mi-2011 MacBook Pro 17" which has had some work done to it - but is still going. Same Year I got an IMac 27" I-7 which has died on several occasions and finally swapped for a 27" I5. (Heat here in Tucson killed lots of stuff last year when I had no air conditioning -- so I only used the Pro in AC places, like coffee shops. My eyesight and program needs make me a 17 inch user -- which seems to have been permanently relegated to a "we cannot make a buck so let's discontinue big screens" bucket.
Im a graphic designer using the 2012 retina...man i remember when it was released. retina was game changing. computer is still amazing. original battery is it's only fault, lasts maybe 20 minutes
I got my MacBook 13 inch early 2011 for my 60th birthday & now I trying to find writing & journal book apps due to the fact I write journal books & stories .
@@SStarlight9614 It seems like the 2009 models had the best build quality, I've only ever had to take mine to the Apple Store once to have the battery replaced. I'm really hoping that the new 16" model will be as good and reliable.
Still rocking my late 16GB 2013 MacBook Pro with dual graphics cards. I'd have preferred the 2015 due to the larger force-touch trackpad... but I even just replaced the battery to give it another year or two of life until whatever replaces the current generation MBPs is at least a year old.
I bought a refurbished (new battery + display) 2015 MBP with dPGU. In December 2019, yes. Because it is Apple's last reliable PRO macbook. Everything 2016-2018 is just trash. Faulty keyboard, flex cable issues, poor battery Whr, pathetic I/O selection, no Magsafe, no SD-port, no glowing apple logo, speaker and T2 problems... just awful. Majority of reviews and users agree. Only the new 16" seems okay again.
I have a 2011 MacBook Pro 17 inch it was the last to run snow leopard, and boot camp for XP, it’s a powerhouse, it was the 2nd MacBook Pro I had that could run Blu-ray and HD dvd software via XP in boot camp due to its graphics being HD compatible, still running and only used for transferring video to my home library
Still doing fine with my Late 2013 15" Retina MacBook Pro with 8 gb RAM, 2 GHz Intel Core i7, Intel Iris Pro and 250 gb SSD, maybe the first version with SSD. Replaced the battery and total top-case 1/2021 just before it went obsolete, so looking forward to more use. Except a bit worried that a 2021 MacOS update will not work on it.
Awesome Video Luke! I was just looking for a used MacBook Pro and your detailed breakdown of all the models was perfect! I'll be jumping on eBay looking for a late 2013 model. Thank you Brother!
Guys I know there’s no G5 PowerBook, I misspoke and corrected with text in the video K thx
But the PowerBook G4 _wasn't_ a year old at that point, it was 5 or 6; spanning from the Titanium PowerBook in 2000 to the last G4 in 2005.
FRACK YOUR APOLOGY PEACHES! 😡
mmmmhmm yes
Does anyone know if the mid 2012 15" with the higher resolution screen option but not retina actually has a different screen or is done with the graphics chip/board? Thanks
yes... and no... the final iteration of the PowerBook G4s with the 1.67Ghz procs were not actually G4s. The very last models of PowerBook G4 (2005-2006) claimed to ship with a "PowerPC 7447B", which doesn't actually exist in any of Motorola or IBM literature. The chips that shipped in these late model PowerBooks were actually PowerPC 7448 processors underclocked to 1.67Ghz from their native clock speed of 2.0Ghz or 2.33Ghz depending on the piece of silicon, which are part of the "Apollo 8" CPU architecture vs. the "Apollo 7" CPU architecture of the previous model PowerPC 7447A that the immediately previous generation of PowerBook G4s shipped with. Also, the amount of on die memory was limited to artificially enforce 32 bit instruction capability, but otherwise the 7447B was essentially the G5 PowerBook that never was. Want proof? The final iteration of PowerBook G4 utilized DDR2 RAM, whereas the second to last PowerBooks utilized older DDR RAM. The reason for the decision to kneecap these processors by underclocking them and limiting them to 32 bits was twofold: G5s were quite fast for the time but were power hungry and generated substantial amounts of heat that the cooling system on the PowerBook G4 could not keep up with. The other reason for the decision was purely strategic - with the impending switch to Intel, the lowest model of the new intel Macs would ship with 32 bit Intel Core Duos (or Solos) clocked at 1.67 Ghz, so having a faster 64 bit option on an older product line was unacceptable. Despite Intel's CPUs being dual core, a similarly clocked single core G5 would run circles around their contemporary dual core Intel chips in terms of sheer performance in almost all benchmarks, not to mention being 64 bit (in all iterations of true G5 other than the intentionally hamstrung PowerBooks). Keep in mind that back in the early to mid 2000s, most computers still had a single core CPU and software was not written to take advantage of multi threading, so the only truly meaningful benchmarks and real world performance that mattered at the time were single threaded applications, which PowerPC excelled at while Intel was just okay at. Then you take into consideration the difference between RISC (PowerPC) vs. CISC (Intel) architecture and its easy to see why Apple made the decision to cripple the final iteration of PowerBook. If they hadn't, the new Intel based MacBook line would have been a complete failure. Apple's decision to move to Intel was pretty much entirely about their laptop line. While the G5s were more than powerful enough, IBM/Motorola failed to produce an energy efficient variant of the G5 that could be used in laptops without negatively impacting battery life, noise and heat output. Intel just happened to be "good enough" at the time. if a competing CPU architecture, eg; ARM or SPARC for instance were producing a viable CPU at the time, Apple likely would have switched to that. They did it before from 68K to PPC, and they'll do it again at some point in the near future from Intel to their own ARM based CPUs that are in use in their non-PC lines, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and Apple TV. Its only a matter of time.
My dad had both a Powerbook G4 and original 2006 MacBook Pro when I was growing up and those laptops helped shape my interest in technology. Apple's products may be overpriced, but they have lasting memories for me, and I will always remember the feel and use of these machines.
same
I honestly love the design of the first gen 17 inch macbook pro, I feel like it looks way better than the ones today. If software support and upgradability wasn't a complete issue, i would be using one right now
I think that itself states the value for you and that’s not really an issue as it’s beholden to you.
Interesting same with me. I use Apple products because of how they made an impact on me as a child. Thank you for sharing.
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Guys... I'm still using my mid 2012 MacBook pro and it's working fine and I'm getting around 4-5 hours battery backup on normal use.
I'm getting 7 hehe.
I'm getting around the same, mine has about 370 cycles.
same even doing light gaming
@@timtheguy82 I had over 800 cycles on my 2015 Retina and it still held 6 hours of battery life. These things are hard to kill.
What are your specs for your 2012 MBP? Just curious.
Mid-2012 was definitely Peak MacBook Pro.
2015 was the end of the peak
2016-2019 sucks ass
GeekRedux I love the mid-2012 MacBook Pro too, but for me the peak was 2014-2015 - already by 2012 very few people used the dvd drive, plus the mechanical hdd and the 1280x800 screen of the mid-2012 MBP were no match at all for the 2014-2015 MBP’s pinnacle flash drive/ssd drive and retina screen....not to mention the difference in weight and consequent portability. :)
faudanke yes
I love the 2015 rMBP, still use it alongside my RTX 2060 desktop.
@@faudanke4459 can't agree i love the mid 2019 mcb pro
2015 MacBook Pro is notable because it was the first to have a Force Touch trackpad, and the last to have a variety of ports.
Every time I look into upgrading my mid 2012 MBP I look at the specs and reviews comparing my maxed out 2012 vs the contenders and I go back to using my tried & true. She never lets me down!
Keep doing what you do Luke. Your channel is unique and always gets me thinking about my high school days (10yrs ago). Back when I was a broke Apple nerd and would just spend the days looking up MacBook info online lol. Now I’ve had my late 2013 15” for 6 years and just when it started becoming “normal” for me, your videos reminded me why I love these machines so much. Good job bro.
Instantly clicked on this video! 😁 🔥🔥🔥 Retina MBP was definitely the best in my opinion!
I vote for the unibodies!
Rocking a 2012 retina 15 and is still holding up today
ZONEofTECH sup Zone!!!?
Sorry I just saw this! You sure your 2016 MBP isn't your favorite of all time? 😈
I have a 2015 Retina Pro 13”. Love it.
Amazingly the 2012 unibody (non-retina) MacBook Pro was on sale until October 2016! I remember being amazed seeing it on sale in Apple Stores for so long 😄
And guess what - I was so stupid that I bought one NEW in 2015. Up to this day I can't believe WTF I was thinking back then xD I got rid of this shit two years later.
MacPiston Omg dude I feel so sorry for you 😂 the fact that it even said ‘MacBook Pro, 2012’ in the About this Mac menu was just absurd 😂
@@Jambolineum I know, and I wonder even more WTF I did because I'm very PC-Phone-Tech-etc. guy xD Now I could have money for newest one... FeelsBadMan XD
@@zaaajac I bought myself that exact model :D I'm a Windows and Android guy trough and trough (but I had my Apple time, also like collecting iPods of various generations), but I wanted a Notebook. The Mid 2012 had no flaws in terms of motherboard related issues, the non retina has also enough steam for driving the LCD.
I upgraded to High Sierra, added SSD, more RAM and that thing runs Win 10 and my BMW Diagnosis software well. Also driving a external F-HD Monitor and the internal one, watching a 1080p video on one and chrome on the other, works well. ^^
Jens Harbers I changed only because od that crappy 1280x800 which I couldn’t stand
Watching this on a 14" MBP M1 in 2023... The curve was off the chart on this one!
"When the new generation of MacBook Pro comes out, it very well might blow your socks off, they might fix the thermal issues, they might have a really amazing display, new keyboard, it might be amazing." - Luke Miani, pre-M1
Coming at us with those Linus sponsor transitions today.
outlaws9295 thats what i was thinking
@@jaythesavage6039 me too :D
And with the exact same sponsors. Skillshare blah, Tunnelbear yada, Squarespace meow, etc.
haha thats the first thing that came to mind... "did he just steal LTT transition to sponsors?"
Screw their pesky sponsors!
I’d say the 2015 is still objectively the best, unless you need the power of the 2019. Nvidia cards and better battery life would make the 2015 totally perfect.
Even though I have the resources to acquire a 15" Retina MBP from 2016 I still choose (without blinking) a mid-2012 15" MBP, Why? For my computer needs, it checks all the marks and a major benefit is the upgradeability the device has. Being able to easily swap the battery, RAM chips, SSD and even add another disk drive is so awesome. Long live the mighty Unibody MacBook Pro!!!
I love the late 2013 but still good
But retina bruh. That resolution and display space is abysmal. I can fit more on my retina 13" than my non retina old 15".
Unibody is far too old already, dude. Heavy, slow and plenty wasted space with that antiquated DVD-drive. Get a 2015 MBP which is the best compromise of reliability, portability, performance and price!
@@ImpactSpace you know the 2012 macbook pro can be upgraded right? The ram can be replaced for 16gb, you can change out the hard drive for as much ssd as you want and replace the optical drive for yet another ssd. The 2012 macbook pro is still a powerful machine.
I wish Apple would bring the unibody back and kicked the touchbar , but still the option to have a touchbar or normal buttons, the new unibody has modern processor , modern gpu , upgradeable flash , 1080P/4K blu ray drive , and that the new unibody has a retina screen.
I also noticed how thin the bezels were on the first ten of MacBook Pros.
I love the design of those original MacBook Pros. The keyboard backlight looked so good on them, the bezels looked amazing on it, the breathing light - Loved it all.
I own an early 2011 unibody Macbook pro 13 inch and I absolutely love it. I have done some upgrades myself like swapping out the mechanical drive to a solid-state drive and maxed out the ram and reapplied thermal paste as well. It runs really well but there are times I want to update this computer to a newer model either 2012 or 13 but I decided not to because I have had this Macbook pro for well over a couple of years now and it's running smoothly and if something goes wrong it's easily repairable. In my opinion, I think the 2011 13 inch Macbook pro is the best computer out there with a few modifications. 👍
damnn i wish i had this experience! also own an early 2011 MBP 13 inch - replaced the ram, HD to SSD and battery a few years ago but i think its finally coming to the end of its life span. i still have overheating problems sometimes. fan speed always maxed out even when theres no heating issues (which i fixed with an app), USB ports and headphone jack don't work all that well anymore and my wifi antennas are slightly messed up 😩 - granted i did use this device in highschool and didnt treat it all that well for a long time.. probably could've gotten better use out of it if i did. still works pretty well all things considered!
@@DejaMiru Sorry to hear that. Mine becomes overheated at times too but I think that's because it's old and had issues from the start. When I applied thermal paste, those issues slowly declined but the fan still runs at full speed now and then especially when I'm editing my photos and videos. But, all is running smoothly except for a few issues like the fan running at full speed and the overheating issue and a few crashes here and there but, either way, I love this computer and I take very good care of it.
Skyler Jade I think the late 2013 is the best bang for your buck cheap faster has retina i7 and 8gb ram 15 inch 2
My favorite MacBook is the Mid 2012 13" MacBook Pro, I have been using the little guy for about three years now and it's still running like a champion. Although it's not great for gaming, I find it decently usable for some mild games. Also the sheer upgradability of the MacBook made me adore it even more. I changed out the stock 500gb HDD with a 500gb SSD in literally under 10 minutes. Also upgraded the 4gb of ram to 16gb of ram all in under 15 minutes. It's a great machine, and I'm happy to see that Apple still supports it under macOS Catalina.
I've had 4 or 5 Apple laptops since about the mid 90s, basically starting with the Powerbook 540C. Current machine is a mid 2012 15" Retina, and it continues to kick 1s and 0s square in the ass.....knock on aluminum....
10:39 I will never understand the hate for butterfly keyboard and touchbar. The touchbar is one of the most innovative things ever made, why is there so much hate?
The butterfly keyboard was not very easy to repair and the touch bar blew up
Dud watching u since last year and literally in love with it content
Mid 2012. Purchased in early 2013 and still using it as it is my computer. Performed upgrades and replaced the touchpad and battery myself. I do a complete tear down yearly to clean and reapply the thermal paste. Just like my 94 GT hybrid bicycle, regular maintenance keeps things running.
4:59 "unibody"
Yeah. But the display assembly is made from two pieces that are glued together that become unglued by the hot air from the fan. 😂
Yeah, Apple certainaly thinks different because that laptop’s air vent were sending hot air into the glued part of the darn device. 😂😂😂
@@draftymamchak Louis Rossmann viewer spotted. :)
@@crashbandicoot4everr Yes
@@crashbandicoot4everr Bro is talking about me 💀💀💀
Now with M1/M2 and Apple Silicion, things have changed so much so quickly
My late 2013 15” top spec is by far my favourite. Especially since I can replace the SSD with a faster larger OWC one and keep it running for years to come. My late 2018 MBP is my daily work horse, but I still love taking the 2013 on the road and abroad and it just packs a punch!
Still rocking my late 2014 13” MBP. Does everything I need and more!
Late 2014 13" MBP doesn't exist.
@@Poire33 Yea I misspoke MID 2014 built in October.
Rupert C I’m still using mid 2012 on MacOS Catalina beta.
Soham Ghosh how’s the performance in today’s world? Does it feel old?
I have a Late 2013 one, I don't use it though. It doesn't have enough power.
For someone who doesn't won a MacBook Pro and is obsessed with Macs , Luke's channel is a gold mine. Love your videos.
Gosh, I remember watching and rewatching the MacWorld keynote from 2006 when they introduced the first one. 🤯
My Late 2013 13” is still going exceptionally strong. I edit videos with it every day 👍
Did u had to replace the battery?
9:03 Definitely thought my MacBook Pro was having graphics problems at this instant
2fast4u288 lmao
The 2008 MacBook Pro unibody had a new way to remove the bottom and got rid of that in mid 2009
Hey!!! I have one!!! Still Working great.. too hot! But do everything, I can upgrade to Mojave with DosDude Patch! Awesome!!!
I might get one
Maybe the 2008 aluminum MacBook 2.4ghz backlit keyboard
@@jellyjordy1154 It's mine... Try a 2,53Ghz, more L2 cache. Processor suffer too much in this 2,4Ghz. And Try find a 9600GT 512MB, my Mac have 256MB, FullHD RUclips videos runs with a little lag... I Make all upgrades, 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz, and 240GB SSD, Still using DVD superdrive. Maybe I will replace DVD with another backup SSD. Ohhh... This model have a PCI Express slot, you can buy a USB3.0 adapter and try to install a external GPU.
I found a MacBook Pro 2008 2.4 ghz core 2 duo n vidia 9600 gm graphics 8 gigabytes of ram and 1tb hard drive or ssd
Thank you for releasing this so quickly!
You're welcome joe
The 8 core 2019 Mbp 15" seem to have solved the cooling problem. I have no thermal problems and when don't use the machine hard it does no longer get the fryingpan over the keyboard, The difference from the 6 core i9 in the 2018 model is like day and night.
Yeah. The 2019 doesn’t thermal throttle. Must have fixed it.
I've been using a mid 2012 13 inch Macbook Pro for 5 years, and only had a hard drive issue at one point. I eventually got 16 gbs of ram and its been perfectly fine
those are fantastic machines! i worked on refurbishing That model for a friend.. i have the 2011 version , both were 13"... the 2012 is faster and smoother graphics and runs the newest systems more easily...urs has the ivy bridge cpu vs sandybridge in mine and 1600mhz mem vs 1333 and 1500mb graphics ram while mine is 512...many improvements and urs will run Much cooler with the ivy bridge
2:02 That Leopard x Mojave themed wallpaper just made my day :-) great video btw
Early notification squad yee
I use a Late 2013 Retina MacBook Pro 13" as my main computer, and it runs well, except it doesn't fit my usage. I am proud of the little guy, it has a great display, great design, a good keyboard and trackpad. But of course, it has flaws, mainly physical. It has a few dings on the corners and it has severe screen coating wear. And as an unwanted bonus, a tiny piece of glass from its display has broken off near the bottom edge.
Looks like it survived Afghanistan 😜
Just ordered the same but 15 inch late 2013 refurbished I hope it’s good
My family has a MacBook Pro 2011 and a 2010 iMac, They both have DVD drives
I like these two cause they have optical drives
My mid 2012 also has a built in DVD drive
Dennis W cool
@@WhittyPics My 2014 hasn't lol
I have a 2017 MacBook Pro but I prefer to use my sister's 2011 MacBook Pro, it's a great laptop in many ways
The best MacBook Pro is still definitely the mid 2012 2.7. Thanks for the good and professionally produced videos.
Hugh Batchelor Regarding MacBook Pro and ssd query
I bought 15" MacBook Pro 2012
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro9,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled
Memory: 16 GB
Is it better than 2018 MacBook Air 8gb ram ?
@@vishalthakral1470 Good choice. Enjoy it :)
Hugh Batchelor mam, is it better than MacBook Air 2018? Actually still i can change it if i want.
@@vishalthakral1470 I would search Luke Miani's channel and find the video where he discusses the MacBook Pros and the best one to buy. Also Louis Rossmann did a similar video a while back. I chose the A1286 because it is a great performer when upgraded, is absolutely reliable and I needed the bigger screen too. Hope this helps. Cheers.
Looking for a late 2013 but not sure what I need to look for in gpu. They all iris no?
The first MacBook pro looked like the 2019 razer pc
happily watching this with the Mid-2012 15" MacBook Pro. first ever Apple computer!
watching this video and reading this comments from a Macbook 15'' mid -2012, upgraded with a new ssd hard drive , running perfect . In Paris :)lol
watching this on the Galaxy Smart Fridge at Best Buy, I don’t think the workers like me here..
15" Mid 2015 with Dedicated Graphics is my favourite.
I'm still using my Late 2011 13" MacBook Pro with its original 500Gb HDD and 4Gb of ram. I never changed the battery and it can always give me 5-6 hours. Soon I will replace the HDD with a SSD
Bobama Patel Regarding MacBook Pro and ssd query
I bought 15" MacBook Pro 2012
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro9,1
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled
Memory: 16 GB
Is it better than 2018 MacBook Air 8gb ram ?
@@vishalthakral1470 its better than my asus f555la 256gb hdd 8gb ram and intel hd graficks 4000
I think it's worth noting that the late 08 and early 09 so-called unibody Pro's were actually made from 2 sheets of aluminum, and that the exhaust is designed in a way that heats the glue that's holding it together.
who is watching this after the MacBook pro 16 inch has been announced
still rocking the mid 2009 15inch maxed out mbp and has never failed me
I was using a 2007 MacBook Pro even now in 2021. Even if it was running on an older MacOS release i was still capable to use it for basics taks, watching videos and Netflix was still great in my surprise (not on high resolution) making documents, searching the web was no problem either. Macs do really last for a lot of time and with so upgrades, they lasts even longer.
0:58 and they are gonna do it again
Picked up a late 2013 15" MBP a few months back i7 dual graphics and it's my daily driver. LOVE IT.
Dan Trachtenberg im planning to have it too.
Interesting video. Still using a Mid 2010 MacBook Pro myself - for general computing stuff/video editing/Photoshop and it's still up to the job.
Mid 2012 MacBook Pro 13. Amazing machine.
I still have my macbook pro core 2 duo unibody, and it still works perfectly. Those where the days i was really into apple, i looked forward to ever keynote lol.
I have Macbook pro mid 2012
Running on Mac os Catalina it works well Still
I just bought a old MacBook Pro first gen,the sticker on it said that intel core duo 2.16 ghz with one gb of ram but when I took the ram Shield off both sticks said 1gb yet both of them had the apple service sticker on it The system is supposed to be running os snow Leopard on it but I haven’t been able to check because my mag safe charger hasn’t arrived in the mail yet,the whole point I got it was for nostalgia.
My favorite MBP is the one I currently have 2019 16 inch i9 1 TB model. I just recently upgraded from my previous 2009 MBP. I really loved that model, which I had for exactly 12 years. I upgraded from 4 to 8 GB ram and eventually to a SSD drive. The battery needed to be replaced, which I purchased at the same time as my SSD. I went to it install myself, I couldn't get the screws loose and I never got around to taking it somewhere to have someone to replace it. My speakers went bad, the trackpad was hard to press (I think the battery was swollen) and several months before upgrading to my new MBP, my Magsafe adapter kept shorting out and half of my screen was not displaying properly. It was a good system. As soon as I unboxed my 2019, and turned it on, I instantly fell in love, a much better system than my previous one.
I still rock a 2012 15 inch and it is THE most reliable laptop I’ve ever owned. I’m glad it’s gotten Catalina support and hope I can use it for years to come.
Pendleton 115 I think it was sold in till 2015 so it might get another few years of support
1:53 “keep in mind the g5 power book was only a year old...”
There was no G5 powerbook. They could never get the chip set in to the powerbook body because it ran WAY to hot for a laptop style computer.
He corrected it to g4
Than they still release the 2019
I use a late 2008 Unibody Macbook with Mojave, it's good enough for most tasks.
Wow that's pretty impressive!
Your channel is great. Great voice, laid back delivery and always on point without unnecessary digressions and distracting attempts at humor. I shall subscribe!
My 13 inch Mid 2012 arrived today! It’s fantastic
Given the 2015 Macbook fires, which Macbook should one upgrade to ? I am afraid to buy 2015-2019.
The 2015 has a free battery program so dont worry about that, just get the battery replaced if you need to
Mid-2012 MBP, still using this current day had it since the first week released in the UK
been watching ur videos lately, really cool stuff! You've got a new subscriber
should i upgrade from an early 2015 MacBook pro 13" to a newer version?
I just bought today a mid 2012 MacBook pro 13 inch and I am very happy with it, its loading everything I need without issue and I will be using it for work, unless you do a lot of hardcore work on them or want to try gaming, its not worth spending the extra money. Plus the MagSafe charger, chiclet keyboard and light up apple logo are all great benefits too.
My top pick of MacBook Pro for programmers will be the 15inch late 2013 with Iris graphics.
Thanks so much for this vid! I have been searching all over youtube for a video about this, and no one has posted one. Great vid.
The A1260 is still my favorite model. I hope one day Apple could refresh this model with new hardware.
damn i saw this guy started up from 12k subscribers and saw potential for him even then with his videos and smooth panning, and at the time typical of a tech reviewer / budding youtuber. now 82k subscribers already how time flies
shows how the 2008 macbook pro’s design was so ahead of its time, it still looks okay for today’s standard
I’m still using a 2011 MacBook Air just waiting for it to quit working so that I can get a new one
When it dies can i have it to fix it? Too poor to afford a macbook
I've had my 2011 base model 11" Air (2GB RAM!) for 8 years now and it's had next to no issues. (Lasted far longer than both the Windows laptops I've had in the meantime.) Was about to get a 2019 Pro 13" but instead I got a 2015, which I'm absolutely loving so far!
I just upgraded to the 2019 MacBook Pro because my 2010 MacBook Air broke
APlusGamer2004 RIP macbook air 2010-2019
wow lasted nine years. honestly i've never seen a laptop last THAT long 🤗
TrollPotatoe and people wonder why people buy MacBooks. No Windows machine would ever last that long....
Spazza42 yeah i agree...
I really hope so. Just bought the MacBook Pro 2019 (Upgraded one) i had like 4 Windows Laptop each did Not Even Last more that 3 Years
Moustache Pikachu i like thinkpads and macbooks. amazing laptops :D
I have a mid 2015 15" retina MacBook Pro, base model with the Iris Pro and I love it. I don't suffer the lack of dedicated graphics, I can work on all my projects easily. My mum still has her early 2008 MacBook Pro, that she uses basically for web browsing, that still works perfectly
My favorite generation is the one from 2014. I dislike that they took away ports and made the keys "thinner"... if that makes sense lol. I was on the fence about upgrading but I think I'll wait until I REALLY need to.
Weirdly. I still can't get enthusiastic of moving on from my 2012 15". Like ports, even like the DVD option. Love upgradability.
How much big a "disk drive" can this take I wonder?
I LOOOOOVE the classic MacBook Pro design, the early 2008 15" MBP is my favorite Mac EVER.
Unfortunately it's too slow for me, I owned a maxed out 2,5 GHz model with 6 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD back until 2015 when I decided it was too choppy in daily usage for my purposes.
It was a special replacement model that was manufactured in December 2008 which didn't have that graphics card issue. I was very lucky with that one.
And unfortunately the case was really too delicate. I am a cautious person and it bent in several spots within two years of usage.
My 2012 retina 15" started having graphical issues when watching HD video (which is 90% what I use it for) so I got a 2011 17-in i7 and put 8 gigs of ram in an SSD into it. It's a shame it can't natively run Catalina, I noticed on my 2012 that Catalina was faster than high Sierra by a decent bit, but I patched Catalina onto the 2011 and it was way choppier, so no dark mode, but other than that no performance issues on the 2011 on high Sierra
I can not be the only person who likes the Touch Bar
i love it too 😔
@@a2ur finally a fellow man of culture
Great video. Just recently upgraded my late 2013 spec'd out MacBook Pro for a spec'd out 16" 5600M.. I'm glad I held off. What a beast. I missed the boat on getting a spec'd out 2015 15" MBP when the pricing made sense before they ruined it with those butterfly keys & thermals. That late 2013 was a workhorse of a machine tho. Only needed two battery replacements & helped me edit over 200 videos, many of which in 4K. Can't wait to see what they do with their Apple Silicon.
I just have MacBook retina 15" mid 2015 , so what do you think is it good 👍🏻😉👍🏻
Unibody Macbook Pro 15.4" from Late 2008 with ExpressCard slot (instead of SD Card slot) - Still runs perfect til this day and thanks to that ExpressCard slot I was able to upgrade ports to USB 3. The best Laptop i have ever owned.
I am enjoying my MacBook Pro 17" 2008 with some upgrades (SSD and Ram) plus the custom OS from dosdude1. I like the fact that it is upgradable and that the screen has a pretty good resolution (1920x1200) for its age. I also like the matte finish of the display. It runs the Mojave with only one apparent bug which is the display brightness that is always down. I found a little application that fixes it but I would like a real fix. I don't need extreme power. With the SSD and more RAM, it feels snappy and boots fast. Great videos by the way. You're one of my favorites RUclipsrs.
I wanted to watch this video to see how bad my Core 2 Duo 2.4 Ghz mid 2010 MBP was.
Commenting from mine. Runs smoothly on High Sierra and 8 GB of RAM with an SSD.
Same here I got 16gb of ram on mine. Waiting to see when the good 15inch ones go down some more or the MacBook Air/MacBook gets a CPU refresh. Fingers crossed.
I started with the original (yes ORIGINAL) Mac before hard drives. Age and income have stopped my hardware purchases with a mi-2011 MacBook Pro 17" which has had some work done to it - but is still going. Same Year I got an IMac 27" I-7 which has died on several occasions and finally swapped for a 27" I5. (Heat here in Tucson killed lots of stuff last year when I had no air conditioning -- so I only used the Pro in AC places, like coffee shops. My eyesight and program needs make me a 17 inch user -- which seems to have been permanently relegated to a "we cannot make a buck so let's discontinue big screens" bucket.
My mid-2008 17 inch Macbook Pro is still alive and well. Has the upgraded full HD display, 6gb ram and a 256gb SSD. No GPU errors. Excellent machine.
I’ve never ever had a MacBook and picked up the 2019 MacBook Pro 13”, is it still having thermal issues?!
I still use my Mid 2010 :)
Just got my 2019 13 inch for the first time, long time pc owner but decided to see what Mac was about
Im a graphic designer using the 2012 retina...man i remember when it was released. retina was game changing. computer is still amazing. original battery is it's only fault, lasts maybe 20 minutes
Thank you for this video! It has been super helpful for me!
I got my MacBook 13 inch early 2011 for my 60th birthday & now I trying to find writing & journal book apps due to the fact I write journal books & stories .
I'm still using my 2009 17" MacBook Pro
I'm still using my 2009 13" MacBook 😂
@@SStarlight9614 It seems like the 2009 models had the best build quality, I've only ever had to take mine to the Apple Store once to have the battery replaced. I'm really hoping that the new 16" model will be as good and reliable.
Great video and guest ,keep up the great work Rene!
I like history and thus watched this with a smile on my face. Good report Luke. Thank you.
Still rocking my late 16GB 2013 MacBook Pro with dual graphics cards. I'd have preferred the 2015 due to the larger force-touch trackpad... but I even just replaced the battery to give it another year or two of life until whatever replaces the current generation MBPs is at least a year old.
I bought a refurbished (new battery + display) 2015 MBP with dPGU. In December 2019, yes. Because it is Apple's last reliable PRO macbook. Everything 2016-2018 is just trash. Faulty keyboard, flex cable issues, poor battery Whr, pathetic I/O selection, no Magsafe, no SD-port, no glowing apple logo, speaker and T2 problems... just awful. Majority of reviews and users agree. Only the new 16" seems okay again.
Typing this on my 2,8 GHz MPB 15" 2015. I have it for the last 3 months, best of all my laptops so far!
I have a 2011 MacBook Pro 17 inch it was the last to run snow leopard, and boot camp for XP, it’s a powerhouse, it was the 2nd MacBook Pro I had that could run Blu-ray and HD dvd software via XP in boot camp due to its graphics being HD compatible, still running and only used for transferring video to my home library
I bought a mid 2010 macbook pro in mid 2010 and I still use it to this day. Never had a need to replace it.
I’ve used the late 2011 macbook pro 13 up untill this week! Mostly Daily, still original battery everything works (ssd and more ram changed only)
Still doing fine with my Late 2013 15" Retina MacBook Pro with 8 gb RAM, 2 GHz Intel Core i7, Intel Iris Pro and 250 gb SSD, maybe the first version with SSD. Replaced the battery and total top-case 1/2021 just before it went obsolete, so looking forward to more use. Except a bit worried that a 2021 MacOS update will not work on it.
currently using mid 2014 macbook pro that was given to me when my sister upgraded, works great except for some trouble with the app store.
Awesome Video Luke! I was just looking for a used MacBook Pro and your detailed breakdown of all the models was perfect! I'll be jumping on eBay looking for a late 2013 model. Thank you Brother!