How to Replace a Vinyl Floor with Ceramic Tile | Ask This Old House
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Ask This Old House general contractor Tom Silva helps a homeowner replace the peeling, vinyl floor in his bathroom with a ceramic tile floor
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Cost: $200
Time: 2 days
Skill Level: Moderate
Tools List for Replacing a Vinyl Floor with Ceramic Tile:
Open ended adjustable wrench [amzn.to/2PTcMUd]
Utility knife [amzn.to/2MXO9n9]
Pry bar [amzn.to/316D4ni]
Hammer [amzn.to/2UuaXvL]
Putty knife [amzn.to/2NYqiDg]
Jigsaw [amzn.to/2MUH4Uo]
Carbide tip knife [amzn.to/2LwUliB]
Notched trowel [amzn.to/2PU0sTI]
Drill driver [amzn.to/2ZQS4nM]
Wet saw [amzn.to/2PS7b0y]
Rubber float [amzn.to/2ZOqbAw]
Sponge [amzn.to/2PPnpHG]
Bucket [amzn.to/2PQKbyK]
Shopping List:
Tiles [amzn.to/2UyvNdg]
Cement board [amzn.to/2MXMAWb]
Thinset mortar [amzn.to/2ZETd6v]
1 1/4 cement screws [amzn.to/2UxmQ45]
Mesh tape [amzn.to/2Q1qRiG]
Grout [amzn.to/2MVlb7j]
Steps:
1. Before getting started, all the appliances need to be removed. Disconnect and remove any sinks, vanities (www.thisoldhou... ), and toilets (www.thisoldhou... ) in the bathroom. Loosen the flange and hold it up with spacers if possible.
2. Next, remove any baseboard trim with the pry bar.
3. Once the floor is clear, peel off the vinyl tiles with a putty knife. With the floor up, now is good opportunity to ensure the subfloor is properly secured.
4. Add cement board to the subfloor to act as a base for the tiles. Cut it to size by scoring it with the carbide tip knife and snapping it, similar to drywall.
5. Apply the thinset to the floor using the notched trowel.
6. Secure the cement board to the floor using the cement screws about 8” apart. Make sure the cement board goes underneath the toilet flange. Cover the seams between the cement board with mesh tape.
7. Dry fit the tiles to see how they will fit in the room. Measure and mark tiles that need to be cut.
8. Cut the tiles using a wet saw.
9. Apply thinset to the cement board using the notched trowel and lay the tiles on the floor. Nippers can be used to cut around the flange. Allow the thinset to cure for 24 hours.
10. Grout the tile after 24 hours.
11. Reinstall the vanity and toilet.
Resources:
Tom chose a mosaic 12x12 inch tile with mesh backing from Daltile ( amzn.to/2MYJ3qH ).
For the subfloor, he used 1/4 inch Wonderboard lite cement board underlayment [amzn.to/2Ltl4gd]. For mortar, Tom used versabond thinset [amzn.to/34r6ZZf].
To trim the bottom of the casings, Tom used an oscillating saw available at Home Depot ( www.homedepot.... ).
All of these materials can be purchased at a home center.
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Tommy is like every good mechanically inclined father wrapped up in one. But a lot more patient.
Love Tommy
I wish that all contractors were this knowledgeable, thorough and patient. This show is a wellspring of knowledge. Thank you This Old House.
Tom is one of the absolute best all around carpenters i've ever seen. His work is always so precise and well done it's amazing
Hmm... not as precise as you say. Maybe you didn't see 3:30 where he cut out the old subfloor way too big...
I would love to volunteer just to learn under his guidance. I've been watching this show since I was a kid. Love it even more as an adult
Several good tips here: 1) The split "dutchman" plywood patch around the toilet drain, 2) Sliding the cement board under the flange, 3) Using the small "broken" piece of cement board behind the flange so it was a straight line for the next sheet.
I'm not a fan of 2 layers of subfloor- whenever there's a water leak/loss, any wet subfloor (first layer) has to get cut out.
This gentleman makes my day, how he does address everything on his way! He resolves on his knowledge. Good job mister!
Dopiest comment get a like from TOH. I also noticed TOH likes to give likes to people with foreign names more so than american sounding names.
When cutting casings around doors with the oscillating tool, add a layer of cardboard or something to the stack of cement board and tile. This accounts for the thickness of the thinset under and on top of the cement board.
Good tip. I bend my blade slightly up or angle my saw down so it adds and 1/8 or so. Just make sure the piece you use as a guide is small so your back of tool rests on floor
Yeah I noticed he probably had to recut
Was think the same thing, what about the thinset. Cardboard is a great idea I'll use that next time.
I was wondering about this. "What about the thickness of both layers of thinset?" Glad to see I'm not crazy.
Since he laid the tool cutting blade on top of the other materials as he cut, he added the thickness of the blade in the overall height of the cut.
Sment and sawer are two of my favorite Tom Silva words.
When Tommy cut the first layer of plywood under the toilet flange, I think the circular saw cut tio deep - it cut into plywood above the joists.
"Next time on ask this old house: Tommy repairs some damaged joist"
Amazing skill to not only know what to do, but also to be able to do it.
It would be hilarious if in an episode one of the guys went out and said, "I can do all of this, but it will involve X, Y, and Z. It will be a big job. You sure?"
And the homeowner replies, "Yeah, you're right. Forget it, I'll just leave it be."
And that's the episode.
Roll credits. LMAO.
And they all drink beeeaaazzs out in the yaaaaard.
And then the ending music plays 😂😂😂
Tommy has saved me thousands and thousands
👍Hope Tommy had crew help with that job. Gettin old sucks! (Back, knees, etc) When home owner said he’d like a new tile floor I would’ve said, how about NO! Let’s pull existing tile & apply vinyl😂😂
Good job as always
I like the way ,Tom Silva work, and explain how to do it 👏👏👍👍
That guy made an amazing tile choice. It looks great!
lol
It was his husband.
I hope this is sarcasm. The color makes me nauseous.
@@chibearsfan313 Black and white makes you nauseous?
@@plumbingstuffinoregon2471 Yes, this is awful.
Tommy always has the best tools. With me, I would've used a chisel/hammer to cut that tile.
They finished in a day with $9000 worth of tools to help.
Anon Emous you can do that job with $200 of tools easy. Or barrow some friends tools.
Favorite line from Tommy , Well let's see if this piece fits ? lol of course it will fit perfect when your the best craftsman on the planet!!
Your videos are so informative for my renos.. I will definitely reference this one when I will be redoing my bathroom floor from vinyl to tile.. a BIG thanks for sharing your knowledge and working experience Tom!!
Tommy is wicked good with a sawr!!!
Tom is one of the best.
Wow , look at that , perfect fit ! Yeah it's Tom Silva working on the project not Joe Blow .
That makes a huge difference. I have the same floor but in mosaic. It didn't seem necessary to cut and fit the small pieces along the edge because the trim should cover it...at least, that is what I did.
bg147 aka cheat a little :)
I know it doesn't affect anything negatively but it's pretty funny when the homeowner says wow, perfect fit at 3:30. That fit is anything but perfect...
Tommy is a national treasure.
Looks like that cameraman is spending the night in the tub!
Ha ha! Now that you say it.....
It is propably the next day filming this :p
Damnit, I was a year late for the same comment
CDeanhartman I need a camera man I’m going to start a Chanel like this
Lol!!!
Nice going Tommy. Time to get yourself some worthy and appreciative apprentice to get on their hands and knees and do that for you.
Nice job. Step by step. Easy to follow, THANK YOU !
At 8:30 I would love to see a guitarist in the tub doing that solo jam while they work.
harry homeowner left to grout the tile . How about the plumbing fixtures where the drains don't line back up and repairs to the wall or where they were short on tile in the closet and didn't do a row?
Really appreciate This Old House!
I wish Tom was my dad. Mr Tom is my hero.
Tommy, awesome as always. For weekend DIY'ers like me, may want to add to the description/ video that cement board, Thinset and screws is old school underlayment. Not a structure where uncouple membrane is the better way to go.
It works though.
Cheap and easy though. Membranes can be very expensive.
@@GeeTheBuilder
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten".
Enjoy your cracked floors...
not for nothing, i love this channel and learn a lot from it but -_- that bathroom looks like it was built yesterday. that was the freshest nice looking plywood i have ever seen hahaha
I would of used Ditra these days personally if the tiles were larger. Always a pleasure to see Tommy work! Great video.
Restore&Explore what’s your opinion of ditra vs wonder board
I used ditra in two of my bathrooms. I am very happy with it.
Depends on your subfloor and structure underneath. Theres nothing wrong with using a cement board. Everything is case specific. The ease of install, and uncoupling properties of Ditra are the main benefits, and if you are planning to do a heated floor, Ditra Heat eliminates an entire step you used to have to do.
Why? it may be easier to carry and faster but for a small bathroom you would end up buying a large role and spending a lot more money.
You dont need to purchase an entire roll of ditra, just buy the amount you need, such a small area the cost will be low. I always use ditra when laying tile floors.
Amazing job! Tom made it look so easy.
Love this video. what kind/type of thin set did you use between the plywood and cement board? what kind/type of grout should i use to grout my ceramic tile?
Them roto zip saws are the best thing that ever came out for cutting under door jambs and what not.
how are you getting a rotozip under the casings?
My old best friend invented that tool, and the drywall bits that it was originally intended for. Then came other bits for other uses.
It wasn't a Roto-zip, it was a Fein Multi-Master
I love that multitool, makes life a lot easier
A really nice job, made to look easy, but well done
Great job , I tilling man for 20 years I am do exact like video now on days used ditra. Xl ,,,, last time used hardie backer and wood sheet 1/4 inch 4x8 ,
Tom with the old school Porter Cable circ saw. I still have one myself, but Tommy's is a bit older than mine.
50% of contractors would have tiled right over the plywood.
25% of contractors that actually used the cement board would not have applied thinset below it or taped joints.
A lot of people live by the old adage: If a man on a galloping horse can't see it--it's OK.
Living legend - as always great work I mean artistry.
2:30 "This will sit flush" FLUSH
"Wow, perfect fit." It's amazing what you can accomplish if you know what you're doing...
they must be starting this conversation at 3am if they got that all done in one day
I chuckled
Exactly!
This could have easily been done in a day???
They usually shoot things like this in a few days. But you are not supposed to know that.
@Von Musklaus I bet you they did this in a couple of days. This is not your hobby. This is not a regular contract job this is a Video shoot. 30 Minutes take days to shoot.
In a bath or kitchen with a possibility of water on the floor always use epoxy grout. A little extra in cost ,but for piece of mind it is worth it.
You would be so lucky if vinyl came up like that!! Whenever I see it, its 3 layers of the shit
Yeah i agree .i hate that stuff
and it's attached with the strongest glue known to man.
That's the truth!
I did my bath floor and there were 3 vinyl remodels underneath. The sub-floor was damp and made of woven ply-board, too. The sub-floor came off like pulled pork in wood splinters.
Use a heat gun.
Lucky B c
How do you make sure you don't screw the cement board into the screws you put into the subfloor? Just practice or Memory? Is there a pattern we should follow?
1. Most screws are along the edge of the subfloor piece, or the cementboard piece. You shouldn't ever have joints of the cementboard layer lining up with joints of the subfloor layer below. You offset (stagger) the joints so that you aren't creating a "joint" that runs from toplayer right down to the bottomlayer.
2. If by some chance you DO hit a screw in the subfloor where you wanted to screw through the cementboard, you'll know. Hitting metal feels different than wood. So you just move the screw location an inch to the left or right. It's really not a problem that happens all that much if you are doing number 1 above.
Tommy is the man
Would this technique work in a mobile home bathroom? Putting down multiple layers like this would look like it would. Just trying to get rid of the flex that's inherent in trailer floors is hard.
This is almost the exact same product I'm trying to tackle now. What if you don't want to raise your flooring that much? I have thin linoleum there now. Can you use a thinner membrane product? What would that be? I'm worried about creating too much space between my new toilet...the flange...and the flooring.
This is a great video and the man doing the work is a craftsman which is hard to find but the big misconception in this video is the project up to this point can not be done in one day with one craftsman and a novice
Sment lol. Take a drink every time Tom says sment
🤣🤣
Boozers are losers
I love your videos tom you make it look real easy 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Makes it look so easy
Did you use the cement board on the entire floor area?
Tom is sharp.
Oh how I'm not looking forward to doing this tomorrow.
When Tom removes the toliet: "from the flange, looks like you guys had burritos last night".
1:41 gave me splinter nightmares
Beautiful tile. Really like!
Man, that guy is good.
8:45 -cut to Tommy also playing the guitar solo
Tommy u freaking genius
Paint stick on top the tile before cutting the trim to allow for Thin set...
I prefer mixing up my own grout from dry.
Then you can customize the viscosity.
So you can float in all those gaps with ease.
Pre mix grout is too thick and dry for my liking.
Could a person add a little water to premix, to thin it to taste?
Such a nice floor.
Is it necessary to install new subfloor if you have plank subfloors?
Tommy is amazing !
That made the floor considerably higher…right? How did the bathroom door still clear all that? This was done in my house and our bathroom door has to be shoved to open all the way.
Looks good! I always thought that you had to have a minimum of 1 1/4” of floor (3/4” plywood and 1/2” Duroc or the like) before you add tile. In this video, I saw 3/4” floor and you added 1/4” of cement board. Would this give you problems down the road? Thanks.....Jim
1/2” cement board is for walls because you need more structure and rigidity between the studs. 1/4” cement board is for floors since you already have subfloor providing structure across the joists
Tommy always make look so easy.
That’s why he’s Tommy.
Charles Damery yeah Tommy look easy always
I know, eh?
More like the camera, and the editing.
Charles Damer
I love this show!!! 😁💯
You guys are great 👍🏻
Yeah I need his help
When undercutting the door jamb put a piece of cardboard from the tile box between tile & backboard to account for you mud if you tile is an average thickness floor tile. The tile on sheets are thinner.
astonishing work
If you wanted to can you turn a wet saw into a table saw??
Taking bets on whether or not it's been grouted yet.
I'll take the over.
Hahaha came here to say the same thing. He'll finally get around to putting grout down once they decide to sell the house. Every half done project finally gets completed when you're about to list the house.
1 year later and he still hasn't done it. just went over there
Update: still no grout. His wife is not impressed.
What is the advantage of tiling the shower floor vs a pre-fab standing shower tub beside the look? Would it be a chore to clean the grout on the shower floor?
1:27 “Came up easy”
Aren’t you glad your contractor used cheap Home Depot glue now??
seededsoul no because those were stick on tiles. That is why the adhesive failed. Mastic would have glued them down regardless of the brand.
@@Dixler683 that's why they're happy. because it failed
seededsoul I think it was from HB
Good video, very informative. What I’ve come to expect from TOH
what about the transition between the bath and hallway floors? it looks like there is a height difference!
The whole reason I watched was to see what they did with the threshold.
Gotta cut the door too.
Thanks to this video, I've decided to hire a guy👍
Tile is not easy work. I'm a guy and I've done two bathrooms and I hate it so much I'll hire someone if I have to do any more. I'll do anything else in the house.
Nice tiles
I have the small doweler system by Festool and though it cost $800 for the full tool and dowels vs $249 for it’s most expensive competitor i absolutely LOVE IT!!! That said I’m looking to retool many systems in my cabinet making shop. Do you recommend the Festool line of tools at the higher cost base or are the usual pro line tools ‘good enough; (i hate those words!)?
Did they need to cut the tile that'll be under the baseboard that has to be installed? It seems so, but if it's under the new baseboard, then does it matter? Is there a "finished room" video/photo?
Mike Holmes would have replaced the subfloor, and the walls, and ceiling, and joists... because it's the right thing to do! Minor bathroom renos shouldnt cost a penny under $85k.
Apparently the network covered labor for the Holmes shows. That would help a bit...
Lol
@@jmbootz Yeah, they don't really make that apparent for the show.
I always figured that a large portion of the cost of those "done right by Holmes" projects was being offset by the television show.
It's why I always laugh at the show when it's trying to make the previous contractors or homeowners look like they were cheapskates on purpose. The reality is that when a know-nothing homeowner is looking to get a project done and they have quotes ranging from 15k to 45k... it's no wonder they end up with the 15k one. And then get all the headaches that comes with cheap.
If you know anything about construction, you'd know to stay the hell away from the lowest and even midtier bids.
I think u can screw that cement board with the torx screws ?
Tommy is the shit! Always the best.
Great work. Thank you for sharing.
I like ask this old house videos and send them to me and thank you again
So the guy holding the camera just slept there till the thinset set up ? HAHAHA!!!!!
Lovely job!
Are the cement boards absolutely necessary? Can you not just cement the ceramic to wood?
Tommy is a genius.
nice undercut on the casing
Great job
Very nice job - thanks
You should also seal the grout so it doesn't degrade as fast with water and moisture. Especially in a bathroom. And why doesnt he use spacers? When we rules our house their was a ton of white + tabs to space them. Is it different for this tile?
William Nett the tile they used has a backing that holds it together eliminate the need for spacers
Sam Koch yeah ive seen this used on back splashes and side shower walls, and the sheet allows it to be held up on its own. So you just eye ball the distance between each sheet? Where the one sheets side connects to the other sheet that's the spacing I don't get why they dont use spacers.
I agree, spacers are a no-brainer for making consistent gaps between tiles. especially when placing individual tiles, when the mesh doesn't come into play.