Game Theory: Kirby...Dream Land's Biggest THREAT! pt 1

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    Kirby is the lovable gumball that is all about friendship and saving the world. Except, he isn't. In fact I don't think Kirby cares about any of that at all! Theorists, I went back through all of the Kirby games and I started to notice that Kirby... wasn't all that heroic. He doesn't care about ANYONE or ANYTHING but himself. Don't believe me? Well, I'm about to fill you up with so much proof, you'll wish you had an appetite like Kirby!
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  • @GameTheory
    @GameTheory  5 лет назад +7022

    A few thoughts...
    Kirby as a child: In Dream Land 1, it's established via the manual that he's "a little boy." Sure. I get that. But it doesn't change the fact that he's still a threat to Dream Land. For him to be SO powerful and SO naive is a dangerous combination. Notice in the script I never call him evil. I don't think he has ill-intent. Just because I say he's a villain doesn't mean that he's evil or has bad intentions. I mean it as he's a THREAT. That said, I've changed the title to avoid confusion.
    Regarding Dyna Blade: Him helping the children after the scene I showed doesn't change the point -- he beat up someone BEFORE learning the whole story, like I tried to make clear in the script. Seeing that scene, he beats up the mom, THEN sees the kids, gives the screen a "cha-ching" gesture and steals them away, feeds them and teaches them to fly...stuff the MOTHER should be doing but can't because she was injured. I get it: Dyna "forgives" him in Revenge of Meta Knight...the same way Landia does in Return to Dream Land, but I see that more as plot convenience because Kirby is the "good guy," or them realizing they have to fight the "true" evil. But think about Kirby;s ACTIONS...if someone just came up to you and started beating you up for no apparent cause, would YOU forgive the person? See them as a hero? Probably not. And don't forget that EVERYONE he fights along the way is in NO WAY connected to the battle between him and Dyna...they're innocents caught in the middle.
    Kirby's Avalanche: In both Epic Yarn and the original Kirby's Dream Land manual (those are the ones I can think of offhand, but there might be more), Kirby actually speaks English...or something that translates to English, so I think comments throwing these lines out as invalid might be premature. Yes, the game is non-canon, which I acknowledge, but the idea that Kirby ONLY speaks "poyo" isn't necessarily true...or it can be assumed that ALL of Avalanche's lines are translated poyo.
    And yes, I know Avalanche is a version of puyo puyo...it was a joke. Obviously it's not a Candy Crush mod since, if nothing else, Candy Crush came DECADES later.
    Kirby as a God of Destruction: That's in part 2 :)
    I think that's all the major concerns I'm seeing in the comments. Like I said, I don't think he's intentionally villainous. He's a neutral agent of chaos who gets pointed in a direction and just GOES. But when you look at his actions in the games I call out, a lot of times he's doing more harm than good. Does he do good? Absolutely. But he's still a threat.

    • @uberboat4512
      @uberboat4512 5 лет назад +201

      Woah. I'm so early that MatPat posted this comment 9 seconds ago.
      Look at Mat. An actual believable theory where Mat actually proves points well

    • @internetperson3436
      @internetperson3436 5 лет назад +167

      You have liked your own comment your argument is invalid

    • @uberboat4512
      @uberboat4512 5 лет назад +123

      @@internetperson3436 probably so more people see it so they see his response to the points that those people are gonna comment on

    • @christopherfannin8845
      @christopherfannin8845 5 лет назад +176

      Here's the thing you forgot to tell everyone that Kirby is actually still a baby literally just a baby he does not know any better so when he say he's a chaotic neutral year just need to rephrase it that he's a baby and he still doesn't know any better so he Acts on nature

    • @wab5733
      @wab5733 5 лет назад +94

      If this were true, then explain the plot from amazing mirror

  • @Jova_38
    @Jova_38 5 лет назад +7329

    Videogame protagonist: *exists
    Game Theory: A C T U A L L Y

  • @ravioli2201
    @ravioli2201 5 лет назад +4730

    Mat pat: kirby is an ameoba
    Also mat pat: kirby is A gOD OF DESTRUCTION

    • @leslieburchett6255
      @leslieburchett6255 5 лет назад +69

      He said that Kirby is a rencarnation.

    • @sagehanson190
      @sagehanson190 5 лет назад +54

      of a god of destruction dipshit

    • @cyan.6399
      @cyan.6399 5 лет назад +46

      @@sagehanson190 a chaotic neutral one, though.

    • @Nuclearburrit0
      @Nuclearburrit0 5 лет назад +110

      Thus ameoba's are gods of destruction. Problem?

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 5 лет назад +41

      Kirby is pretty clearly an Eldritch Abomination.

  • @cd31000
    @cd31000 2 года назад +954

    Rewatching this I realize that Kirby is just the person who doesn't have time to watch cutscenes and skips them.

    • @kabob0077
      @kabob0077 2 года назад +33

      Oh... Yeah that makes sense...

    • @harrybuilder5670
      @harrybuilder5670 Год назад

      Doesn't mean he doesn't try fix it, as this video proves.
      ruclips.net/video/DTLOpqhiuzc/видео.html&ab_channel=Meteorz

    • @flother4834
      @flother4834 Год назад +12

      Unless if its like food i guess

    • @ARCHERonaBIKE
      @ARCHERonaBIKE Год назад +7

      No care for plot? He sounds like Doomguy from Doom2016. "Exposition and plot? Get that outta my face, I need to slaughter the legions of hell"!

    • @spikemanfangirl
      @spikemanfangirl Год назад +2

      kirby is arin hanson?

  • @masonhhoffman
    @masonhhoffman 2 года назад +360

    "That part is a whole separate discussion for next week"
    It's been 2 years

    • @Scary_Mar0
      @Scary_Mar0 2 года назад +37

      He canceled it for being wrong

    • @christian6037
      @christian6037 2 года назад +15

      Being wrong? You mean the theory was garbage or that it was too mature ?

    • @gabcard2767
      @gabcard2767 2 года назад +23

      @@christian6037 The first one.

    • @tatertot5777
      @tatertot5777 2 года назад +10

      Yea he did a video on how Kirby floats instead

    • @simplesimon4561
      @simplesimon4561 2 года назад

      This video explains it ruclips.net/video/XuNJzStBelA/видео.html&ab_channel=TheGameTheorists

  • @joho4430
    @joho4430 5 лет назад +302

    You did not treat waddle dee with respect. Forgive me child, for what i must waddle doo. *Pulls out gun*

  • @ThePureSynergist
    @ThePureSynergist 3 года назад +1785

    Kirby: Poyo!
    Also Kirby: I’ve killed 14 gods and counting.

    • @ultraheroes2383
      @ultraheroes2383 3 года назад +29

      Wait he killed 14 god?

    • @marko6204
      @marko6204 3 года назад +82

      @@ultraheroes2383 he also shaters a planet in half with one punch

    • @ultraheroes2383
      @ultraheroes2383 3 года назад +8

      Mark Mission yeah I know that

    • @squeaktheswan2007
      @squeaktheswan2007 3 года назад +61

      @@marko6204 That's because all bald anime characters are overpowered, and Kirby doesn't have any hair.

    • @kylemichelraza3893
      @kylemichelraza3893 3 года назад +8

      Guko: am i a joke to you

  • @GRosa-xw3rg
    @GRosa-xw3rg 2 года назад +51

    The reason kirby is impulsive is because he’s canonically a kid, he’s also made from the same material as zero which is the main reoccurring energy antagonist, another instance of the same type of energy being good is gooey in dream land two, a sentient being apart from the pack that is zero.

    • @thekidinyourbasement524
      @thekidinyourbasement524 Месяц назад

      He is not made by the same material as zero, zero is made by dark matter which is pure negativity, totally not Kirby

    • @SubtitleXD
      @SubtitleXD Месяц назад

      @@thekidinyourbasement524 according to the lore, kirby is made of dark matter (from his connection to void who is made of dark matter) the difference between dark matter/void and kirby is that one was born with pure negativity and the other was born with pure positivity

  • @hajimescat7745
    @hajimescat7745 Год назад +19

    To be fair though, Kirby is like 3 years old
    In Kirby right back at ya (even though the show itself isn’t canon), it looks into part of Kirby’s backstory. Metaknight talks about how Kirby and him are both warriors, but during the flashback when metaknight is like “yeah I got sent to planet pop star just like you”, he also mentions how Kirby is a little bit weaker than him at the moment because he is a child.

  • @SolarBeam04
    @SolarBeam04 5 лет назад +872

    Kirby: u got cakke?
    Dedede: yea
    Kirby: you shall perish mortal

    • @Chaos89P
      @Chaos89P 5 лет назад +49

      I think it's more like:
      Kirby: u got cakke?
      Dedede: yea
      Kirby: can I have some?
      Dedede: no
      Kirby: you shall perish mortal

    • @TryHardGamerYT
      @TryHardGamerYT 5 лет назад +35

      Lol...
      Kirby: *sleeps
      Dinah Blade (or what ever its called): wooshes by
      *apple drops on kirby
      Dinah Blade: Sorry about that, I was getting food for my kids
      Kirby: THEY WILL ALL DIE

    • @popper7633
      @popper7633 5 лет назад +4

      Legendary Gaming 553 it is dyna blade

    • @clownymoosebean
      @clownymoosebean 5 лет назад +2

      @@Redstone246 YOU DARE BRING LIGHT INTO MY LAIR?

    • @trueblue1893
      @trueblue1893 5 лет назад +2

      Chaos89P no. Kirby doesn’t ask

  • @diamondmemer9754
    @diamondmemer9754 3 года назад +904

    It's funny in the things kirby eats in the introduction we find Scarfy, the ONLY enemy kirby can't inhale

    • @Chou-shi
      @Chou-shi 3 года назад +38

      Gordos and Mumbies be like : ( ;∀;)

    • @diamondmemer9754
      @diamondmemer9754 3 года назад +29

      @@Chou-shi ok sorry
      But they are the characters who become stronger when kirby tries to inhale it
      Assuming their real form

    • @Chou-shi
      @Chou-shi 3 года назад +10

      @@diamondmemer9754 don't worry I was only joking ^^

    • @diamondmemer9754
      @diamondmemer9754 3 года назад +11

      @@Chou-shi and I was making the joke scientifically correct because I'm a D

    • @whoops3404
      @whoops3404 3 года назад +4

      "Scientifically"

  • @IvanMaster7
    @IvanMaster7 2 года назад +14

    Regarding Kirby’s Adventure, breaking the Star Rod causes the people of Dream Land to stop having good dreams and with Nightmare sealed in the fountain they would be having nightmares every single night. Kirby assaulted King Dedede’s forces to help the people since the King didn’t explain himself.

  • @JoanMendoza
    @JoanMendoza 2 года назад +31

    It looks like you guys got some blow-back from this, but I would love to see how "Kirby and the Forgotten Land" expands or changes this analysis.

    • @aaronwright485
      @aaronwright485 10 месяцев назад +2

      Nothing changes

    • @Znae629
      @Znae629 10 месяцев назад +1

      I mean, it’s not like kirby fights anyone who isn’t a mind controlled foe, and once they aren’t mind controlled, he only fights them for the sake of practicing and entertaining the waddle dees.

    • @kirbyofthestarsfan
      @kirbyofthestarsfan 7 месяцев назад

      Kirby doesn't do anything that worsens the situation in FL, so nothing changes

  • @dinodare1605
    @dinodare1605 4 года назад +1481

    Cake: **Disappears**
    Kirby: ”Peace was never an option!”

    • @Hapymation
      @Hapymation 3 года назад +7

      Poyo! Hey, I'm da kirb

    • @PopRobb
      @PopRobb 3 года назад +4

      @@Hapymation you know questions exist????

    • @Hapymation
      @Hapymation 3 года назад +3

      @@PopRobb Poyo poyo??

    • @PopRobb
      @PopRobb 3 года назад +2

      @@Hapymation you seem to destroy things without asking ANY questions. I played your games

    • @Hapymation
      @Hapymation 3 года назад +2

      @@PopRobb Poyo poyo? 🥺

  • @RetroBeetle
    @RetroBeetle 5 лет назад +656

    Is anyone gonna mention that, according to the anime, Kirby is a _negative-200-year-old Star Warrior?_ That would easily explain his "act first" behavior.

    • @bigj0e__
      @bigj0e__ 5 лет назад +74

      Exactly he's just a baby >:(

    • @hoodlumscraggy1801
      @hoodlumscraggy1801 5 лет назад +50

      RetroBeetle in the Kirby anime its stated that Kirby woke up early before he was supposed to

    • @hollow1279
      @hollow1279 5 лет назад +32

      and again, the anime isn’t canon

    • @outlawgamer5905
      @outlawgamer5905 5 лет назад +19

      @@hollow1279 Isn't Kirby/Meta Knight still a Star Warrior in the games?

    • @hollow1279
      @hollow1279 5 лет назад +9

      OutLawGamer It is never mentioned outside the anime

  • @LutherWilken32
    @LutherWilken32 Год назад +5

    kirby: I'm just addicted to food
    kirby in game theory's eyes: 39 buried, 0 found...

  • @skddlls759
    @skddlls759 2 года назад +4

    What do you mean " HE chooses to kill everyone"? you can leave all the creatures alone. Its up to the player not Kirby! He only kills the bosses that block his path not allowing him to proceed.

  • @DRangerRed
    @DRangerRed 5 лет назад +197

    Anybody:*drops apple on kirby.Kirby:your free trial to mercy has ended

    • @kittykaidoodles796
      @kittykaidoodles796 5 лет назад +8

      Newton: *Gets hit by an apple* Oh, gravity is what pulls us downwards
      Kirby: *Gets hit by an apple* Gravity is what pulls all who stand before me into my endless maw.

  • @Duckinwatr
    @Duckinwatr 5 лет назад +927

    I’d love to see a Kirby villain that offers him like... a small piece of candy or something in exchange for taking over the universe for them
    That’s a flawless master plan

    • @MoriShep
      @MoriShep 5 лет назад +53

      give him one candy a day and booya you win sir ...Unless some towns foke makes cake...easy fixs outlaw cake !~ no wait that would make the pink monster mad ....this plan needs more work

    • @AWESOMEEVERYDAY101
      @AWESOMEEVERYDAY101 5 лет назад +20

      the heros can bribe him back with CAKE

    • @etehan2580
      @etehan2580 5 лет назад +12

      Outstanding move

    • @gato_feliz605
      @gato_feliz605 5 лет назад +10

      A nightmerish creature wants to know your location

    • @NoName-rv9ur
      @NoName-rv9ur 5 лет назад +7

      HoodieDork literally the only reason marx helps you in star allies

  • @nancoppedge4019
    @nancoppedge4019 Год назад +3

    Mushroom Kingdom: We have 2 super-powerful plumbers.
    Minecraft: We have blocky superhuman.
    Inkwell Isle: We have the Devil.
    Dream Land: We have Kirby.
    Others: Oh, shoot.

  • @The_Shimp
    @The_Shimp 2 года назад +20

    I’m pretty sure there were enough things to talk about to make a part 2, especially if you made it one of those videos that puts all the lore into a story near the end.

    • @vampirex3607
      @vampirex3607 6 месяцев назад +1

      I swear he made a part two but maybe I’m just being Mandela effected right now

    • @The_Shimp
      @The_Shimp 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@vampirex3607 he couldn’t find enough evidence for a part two so he made a different Kirby theory iirc

  • @halbarroyzanty2931
    @halbarroyzanty2931 5 лет назад +160

    I'd say kirby is more like a very young toddler with the absolute power

    • @authenticautistic2151
      @authenticautistic2151 5 лет назад +19

      It's canon that he is a literal baby.

    • @DH-ns8ku
      @DH-ns8ku 5 лет назад +14

      That's what makes him so dangerous though. How many toddlers do you know that will do something unless they're forced too or there is something in it for them?

    • @shiverbim4920
      @shiverbim4920 5 лет назад +1

      Same like Zeno

    • @GyromiteN64
      @GyromiteN64 5 лет назад

      He not a baby I have prof

  • @TheBaldrickk
    @TheBaldrickk 5 лет назад +150

    14:20 I've Checked scans of the original Mario instructions.
    It says when you break the bricks, you're freeing them from it.

    • @SgabelloBello
      @SgabelloBello 5 лет назад +39

      Death is freedom when you've been transformed by a curse into a brick lol

    • @tutel2732
      @tutel2732 5 лет назад +5

      Death is freedom

    • @anonymousgoblin792
      @anonymousgoblin792 5 лет назад +2

      No One's Important. Your looking too far into it lmao.

    • @Perdix64
      @Perdix64 5 лет назад +1

      TheBaldrickk he’s actually baby interesting eh?

    • @ladydi8643
      @ladydi8643 5 лет назад

      @@Perdix64 don't forget that I'm a baby too

  • @ProfessorPrel
    @ProfessorPrel Год назад +35

    Matt, he is 8 years old. And his species is immortal, but reaching maturity when they are 250 years old. So in human years, he is less than 4. He is not a threat, he is just lacking a parental figure to teach him how to behave like a hero. He is the incarnetion of goodness. He just hasnt realised what goodness truly is yet

    • @euaneduria7637
      @euaneduria7637 Год назад

      bruh did you actually watch the video before commenting or not? i actually want to know

    • @ProfessorPrel
      @ProfessorPrel Год назад +2

      @@euaneduria7637 What excactly is the problem here?

    • @oggaraggairoaawfauhaiu31_UN
      @oggaraggairoaawfauhaiu31_UN Год назад

      ​@@euaneduria7637dude, did you even read the comment before replying here?

    • @ZINCr_aka_Q
      @ZINCr_aka_Q 9 месяцев назад +1

      That doesnt change that he is still capable of, and has committed, mass destruction.

  • @Studimus
    @Studimus 2 года назад +6

    kirby: is the embodiment of pure positivity.
    also kirby: hi i do eat very yes mhm want human arm?

  • @barryskelhorn695
    @barryskelhorn695 3 года назад +720

    2019:We will have a part 2
    2020:me still waiting for part 2
    2319:Still waiting

    • @TheGrimFormOfLuck
      @TheGrimFormOfLuck 3 года назад +50

      True i saw part one and literally just went to find it but sadly did not find it :(

    • @razee3038
      @razee3038 3 года назад +76

      @@TheGrimFormOfLuck I hear its because of fan backlash

    • @Goaty_1
      @Goaty_1 3 года назад +41

      Hapy the star warrior his theories don’t make others hate a game, it just makes us more aware or at least makes us think about it more, same with FNAF and Mario theories

    • @ralphsalvador157
      @ralphsalvador157 3 года назад +5

      Same

    • @rickbardalesproductions1202
      @rickbardalesproductions1202 3 года назад +17

      the part 2 is the how does kirby fly

  • @potatodog7910
    @potatodog7910 5 лет назад +387

    They stole his cake what do you expect he wouldn’t murder everyone in his way

  • @benjaminsable587
    @benjaminsable587 2 года назад +10

    The way you describing Kirby is more similar to SSVG5’s Kirby than Nintendo’s Kirby.

  • @happykermit7221
    @happykermit7221 2 года назад +16

    anyone else still looking for that part 2

  • @twerdeffan1080
    @twerdeffan1080 5 лет назад +411

    13:11
    Did... Did MatPat just call Puyo Puyo a glorified Candy Crush mod?!

    • @Slimecade
      @Slimecade 5 лет назад +13

      I...

    • @fmsdraws5496
      @fmsdraws5496 5 лет назад +54

      *Puyo Puyo Music stops*
      Thats just...
      MatPat, what the hell?

    • @Yujinni0
      @Yujinni0 5 лет назад +41

      Matpat looses the right to any puyopuyo theorys forever

    • @drow_Lilith9940
      @drow_Lilith9940 5 лет назад +7

      it called a joke

    • @JoJo-wn7ze
      @JoJo-wn7ze 5 лет назад +20

      Alex Ander
      Respect for Game Theory: 0%

  • @Jacob-nu9vk
    @Jacob-nu9vk 5 лет назад +316

    Duh he doesn't have brains. We already determined he was a single cell. (Remember the nubblies?)

    • @DrAngelMachine
      @DrAngelMachine 5 лет назад +6

      But since when did Amoebas have eyes or a mouth??

    • @sunnyak4089
      @sunnyak4089 5 лет назад +9

      game theory running out of ideas

    • @jeromealday614
      @jeromealday614 5 лет назад +6

      @@DrAngelMachine an advance amoeba?

    • @guywhoateallthepizza1031
      @guywhoateallthepizza1031 5 лет назад +6

      @@jeromealday614
      That's not an Amoeba if it's that advanced

    • @Joemam024
      @Joemam024 5 лет назад +2

      Wait wouldn’t he have a nucleus then? That’s kind of like a brain

  • @CorviKid999
    @CorviKid999 Год назад +2

    A theory that kirby IS a hero is found in Triple Deluxe, where Kirby goes out of his way to save King Dedede, not caring about cake, but instead about a friend. Planet Robobot has Kirby consuming evil mechanization, as he feels that it's HIS JOB to save the world. No ulterior motives here.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 Месяц назад +2

    11:36 "THESE ARE HEROIC CHARACTERS."
    He says, based off of the one game with the most questionable plot in the series, about a king who stole all the food from the entire kingdom leaving them to starve, and a masked knight who literally used a battleship to try and invade dreamland at one point to FORCE dreamland to work harder...

  • @JS-pq2tc
    @JS-pq2tc 5 лет назад +203

    This time, on "All the video game characters you played are evil";
    Kirby

  • @swmybeloved
    @swmybeloved 5 лет назад +281

    Kirby fights for a strawberry shortcake.
    Me:Can relate

    • @TaoScribble
      @TaoScribble 5 лет назад

      Swap shortcake for parfait and I can relate as well.

    • @suricacato
      @suricacato 5 лет назад

      @@TaoScribble Game Theory more like game robery am I cright boys ?

    • @inoueokaito
      @inoueokaito 5 лет назад +4

      i don't blame kirby i could just commit massacre if someone stole my cake

    • @gavros9636
      @gavros9636 5 лет назад +4

      I'd fight for a quiche but I just can't handle the responsibility.

    • @nashiruu9027
      @nashiruu9027 5 лет назад

      Comic Sans Erza*

  • @mistermadness677
    @mistermadness677 Год назад +4

    Hasn’t anyone found out that Kirby is only dreaming in every game because he’s stuck in an eternal sleep?
    The signs are obvious if you’ve seen the movie, and the name of the place he’s in.

    • @aaronwright485
      @aaronwright485 10 месяцев назад

      What movie. Also Dreamland got its name from the dream fountain

  • @StevenKR
    @StevenKR Год назад +2

    In the Kirby movie, I think they say something similar - that Kirby was actually made by E.N.E.M.Y but crashed onto dreamland. Meta Knight thought he was going to grow up to become a star warrior so he helps train him. In the movie Kirby has to choose to defeat Nightmare and the organization, or abandon his friends for his selfish impulses.

  • @timewizard5722
    @timewizard5722 5 лет назад +72

    2:46
    Beerus: who are you?
    Kirby:Poyo(im you but hungrier)

  • @bait1021
    @bait1021 5 лет назад +438

    1. Kirby did not directly cause every problem, Star Allies immediately comes to mind to support this.
    2. After Kirby realized Dynablade was a mother, Kirby helped feed and raise her children (which you failed to mention/show).
    3. The problems that Kirby DID cause occurred only because Kirby was manipulated by an evil character, Kirby originally intended to solve a different problem that had occurred ( Sun and Moon fighting, everyone being unable to dream, etc.), only to have the real villain swoop in and make things worse, which was able to happen not because Kirby didn't care to ask questions, but because
    4. Kirby is canonically an INFANT, (which you also failed to mention/show) meaning he is physically incapable of distinguishing right from wrong, typically follows his instinct, and tends to prioritize food.
    Also, in Squeak Squad, Kirby probably assumed Dedede stole his cake because he knows Dedede has stolen food in the past.
    Anything I'm forgetting, comment section?

    • @yoshikirby101
      @yoshikirby101 5 лет назад +89

      Gabe Buehler In Kirby’s squeak squad, Daroach opens up the chest not Kirby. There is a lot of information from other Kirby games that Matpat leaves out

    • @the6ofdiamonds
      @the6ofdiamonds 5 лет назад +69

      Kirby 64: The crystal shards. Kirby gets sucked into the whole mess cause a crystal bops him on the head during what he thinks is a meteor shower. If you don't 100% the game, big bad possesses your fairy buddy's parent(?), if you do 100% the shards, the crystal expels the big bad as O2 (02?)... and basically without a second thought Kirby flys off to destroy Dark Star and the big bad.
      Sounds like an absolute *villain*, doesn't he. How dare he charge blindly into almost certain death for other people like that.

    • @NyaRocks
      @NyaRocks 5 лет назад +12

      THANK YOU!

    • @DanafoxyVixen
      @DanafoxyVixen 5 лет назад +19

      "Kirby is canonically an INFANT" then he should be on a leach like a good puppy till he knows better

    • @150belowzero
      @150belowzero 5 лет назад +47

      Yeah, I find this theory really weak. One of the few that left me going "Really, Matt? Really? Come on now" and that is rare for me. There is just way too much reaching lol.

  • @jaketaller8567
    @jaketaller8567 Год назад +21

    Now that Matpat is retired, I really hope that Tom actually continues this theory someday. If not for the fans, I guarantee you he’ll do it for one of the series’ most fascinating topics,
    *THE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE!*
    Seriously, as a Kirby fan myself, I can tell you that the lore of this franchise goes really deep. From the mysterious beings known as the Ancients to the magical artifacts that they created like the Master Crown and Galactic Nova.
    Heck, the whole “Kirby is a god of destruction” thing is outright confirmed in Star Allies, when it’s stated that Void, the main villain of the game, is related to both Kirby and Dark Matter.

    • @isauldron4337
      @isauldron4337 11 месяцев назад

      Lore is simple
      Dark matter
      Ancients shenanigans and freenemied

  • @cuedepie4376
    @cuedepie4376 Год назад +2

    As a Kirby fan, I DECLINE this theory, as Kirby always gets the job done beating up eldritch gods, and even in Avalanche, he was just delivering ROAST AFTER ROAST.

  • @fakenoobgame
    @fakenoobgame 5 лет назад +444

    What a madlad, uploading a video about Kirby on MAR10 day

  • @veraslepoj2774
    @veraslepoj2774 5 лет назад +456

    "Kirby woke up before he could fully mature as a star warrior"
    ... He's a baby

    • @Hiustwui
      @Hiustwui 5 лет назад

      @Non-Ugandan Knuckles Kirby is Boubou (dbz) of Hal Laboratories.

    • @mastercobragaming8780
      @mastercobragaming8780 5 лет назад +19

      Vera Slepoj he was awoken 200 years earlier (if we are going to use the anime as an example, even though it isn’t canon) than normal. He can’t speak, but can think a little bit. He has not matured fully during his training sleep as Octo-Khan (however you spell his name in Japanese) caused the Starship to go towards Planet Popstar and crash land in Dream Land. Like Meta Knight explained to Tiff in episode 3 of the anime. Kirby is the youngest, yet most powerful Star Warrior in the Galaxy Army as he can inhale his opponents and spit them out as stars or copy their abilities. Also like Meta Knight said, he is the “newest generation” of Star Warriors

    • @mastercobragaming8780
      @mastercobragaming8780 5 лет назад +2

      Non-Ugandan Knuckles yes I know the anime isn’t canon, but Kirby was created by Nightmare as an accident

    • @cb2327
      @cb2327 5 лет назад +7

      He is a child, he is a baby in the anime not in the games

    • @megarotom1590
      @megarotom1590 5 лет назад +5

      not canon, the anime isn't canon

  • @Kittycat246.
    @Kittycat246. 4 месяца назад +2

    According to the actual lore of Kirby he was created by void after it encountered a large amount of positive energy/vibes. And Zero (a recurring enemy in the early games) was created by void after it encountered a large amount of negative energy/vibes

  • @kingdededeeznuts9384
    @kingdededeeznuts9384 Год назад +4

    1:21
    Happens ever Tuesday by this point
    3:51
    That dair Kirby never listens
    11:38
    I am heroic

  • @Vanishing_
    @Vanishing_ 5 лет назад +175

    *flashbacks to Super smash Bros brawl's version of gourmet race*

    • @Mr_Mimestamp
      @Mr_Mimestamp 5 лет назад +8

      **flashbacks to Super Smash Bros Ultimate’s version of gourmet race**

    • @zareffarhaan6106
      @zareffarhaan6106 5 лет назад +1

      Oh my god.... it was telling us that all along.

    • @ssquicyramenz
      @ssquicyramenz 5 лет назад +1

      Kirby isn't actually a baby--
      He is a fetus

  • @howtotorials244
    @howtotorials244 3 года назад +564

    Kirby: *gets interrupted from his nap
    Kirby: *oh boy, here I go killing again!*

  • @The1_boyyyy
    @The1_boyyyy 4 месяца назад +3

    This is why I love Kirby

  • @averytherockgod9822
    @averytherockgod9822 2 года назад +2

    I always thought of Kirby as being more neutral or even lawful neutral than chaotic neutral, cause even when Kirby does do bad stuff it’s not necessarily intentional and he thinks he’s either doing the right thing, or he’s being childishly naive and a bit selfish and not quite thinking straight. Personally whenever I think of a Chaotic Neutral character I think of someone more like Akuma from the Street Fighter series but Kirby in my opinion is more like either lawful neutral or just neutral neutral

  • @frnan8547
    @frnan8547 5 лет назад +92

    Acording to Kirby canon, Kirby is basically a good void
    Edit: swapped dark matter with void, I realized my mistake, I’m sorry(although they are both kinda similar)

    • @3GearsTurning
      @3GearsTurning 5 лет назад +7

      That's not true or confirmed. The only character we got for a good dark matter is Gooey. Also you forget that Meta-Knight is the same species as Kirby

    • @emperorender8201
      @emperorender8201 5 лет назад +3

      @@3GearsTurning
      Yeah, but there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that supports this idea.

    • @lacuevadexavier
      @lacuevadexavier 5 лет назад +12

      Not a good dark matter, but a good Void

    • @ProtoMekka
      @ProtoMekka 5 лет назад +4

      @Nero Dark Matter is a race in kirby that is basically the result of negative energy from void, void is the origin of everything in the kirby universe

    • @hollow1279
      @hollow1279 5 лет назад +7

      3GearsTurning believe me, the last game give us a shitload of evidence to theorize he is a good Void (but yes, he can’t be dark matter cause dark matter is bad Void)

  • @John-rc3gt
    @John-rc3gt 5 лет назад +365

    Me: Are any game protagonists actually good?
    Game theory: "Well yes but actually no."

    • @Dragonime
      @Dragonime 5 лет назад +8

      has he forgotten about undertale, pacifist route btw idk lol

    • @VixXstazosJOB
      @VixXstazosJOB 5 лет назад +8

      The Are... but no one is perfect. Not cause chars aren't perfect does that mean they're ultimately Evil

    • @John-rc3gt
      @John-rc3gt 5 лет назад +2

      @@VixXstazosJOB No they aren't all necessarily evil but they aren't necessarily good either. Some are more like a chaotic neutral.

    • @spinnyboination7830
      @spinnyboination7830 5 лет назад +2

      Yes there is
      His name is Shuichi Saihara

    • @SteveOnlin
      @SteveOnlin 5 лет назад

      the only good one is the book worm worm thing

  • @-toxicforyou-4771
    @-toxicforyou-4771 2 года назад +3

    Matpat. You DON'T understand. Kirby is naive, a child. Which mean that's he's not THAT intelligent. He's just being manipulated.

  • @funmaniacman462
    @funmaniacman462 Год назад +2

    Hey MatPat! I would LOOOOOOOVE to see a video where you establish who exactly boos, ghosts, king boo, and specifically Helen Gravely was before they died and turned into Ghosts. Thanks.

  • @mkicon
    @mkicon 5 лет назад +176

    Dude just called Puyo Puyo a glorified candy crush...
    And we wonder why sega won't localize any Puyo titles to the West.

    • @jwhite5008
      @jwhite5008 5 лет назад +3

      They tried in the past, it was not very effective...

    • @thomased22legoyodagaming
      @thomased22legoyodagaming 5 лет назад +1

      yeah wtf puyo puyo is great!

    • @antimatter3084
      @antimatter3084 5 лет назад +6

      Every time someone calls Puyo Puyo a glorified candy crush, my faith in humanity drops.

    • @airbornemagician
      @airbornemagician 5 лет назад +1

      yeah didn't it come out before cc?

    • @mkicon
      @mkicon 5 лет назад

      @@airbornemagician yes, but also they're almost nothing alike

  • @maddiecarney7577
    @maddiecarney7577 5 лет назад +166

    *Oh no! Dedede stole my strawberry shortcake! Gotta go destroy everyone*
    _kirby knowledge_

    • @blockeontheleafeon
      @blockeontheleafeon 5 лет назад +2

      Galeem and Dharkon are Destroying the World? Better Kill Everyone Before them so that I Can be the TRUE Villain of Smash!!!

    • @MathMasterism
      @MathMasterism 5 лет назад +6

      Dedede: *does anything*
      Kirby: "Welp, time to burn down the kingdom again."

    • @tricky2910
      @tricky2910 5 лет назад

      m.ruclips.net/video/6l6vqPUM_FE/видео.html

    • @PlasmaPea04
      @PlasmaPea04 5 лет назад

      alright i know it may seem like kirby jumps to conclusion and by that he is evil but think about it.
      Last time this guy stole all of the food in the kingdom and your cake has just been stolen.
      Dont forget kirby is still a baby.
      maybe you can see why he thought it was dedede

    • @killercross9929
      @killercross9929 5 лет назад

      He's just a baby

  • @TheOrangeViking
    @TheOrangeViking Год назад +11

    Mario might not have known that the toads had been turned into bricks. I’m just sayin’.

  • @anti9327
    @anti9327 2 года назад +3

    Mat Pat would make a GREAT lawyer
    You know since he can make kirby look guilty

  • @fjr4406
    @fjr4406 5 лет назад +184

    Kirby: literally a hungry mindless pink blob that does what it wants. No other description

    • @Deman_Dema
      @Deman_Dema 5 лет назад +6

      In short, a dumber and more selfish version of Majin Buu.

    • @mjcgwmjcgw1522
      @mjcgwmjcgw1522 5 лет назад +3

      FrostFlame 74
      More like
      Me hungry
      Me likey plants
      Me eatey plants
      Meanie boi hutededed me
      Me eatey him too
      Ooo look this boi give me food he good boi

    • @Joltz9
      @Joltz9 5 лет назад +1

      its only a 200 year old premature child, i think

    • @miieriel9531
      @miieriel9531 5 лет назад +1

      FrostFlame 74 but it’s cute so it’s all good

    • @pikasol3641
      @pikasol3641 5 лет назад +1

      @@Joltz9 that's from the anime, right?

  • @maoistlily1432
    @maoistlily1432 5 лет назад +78

    First Mario is a sociopath, then Peach as a ruler of parasitic mushroom, now Kirby is evil... Next you'll tell me that Rosalina wants to destroy the universe...
    (no, but really cool episode)
    :)

    • @sanswithagun7368
      @sanswithagun7368 5 лет назад +1

      dont give matpat new ideas

    • @lowlydoesstuff
      @lowlydoesstuff 5 лет назад +2

      Then toad is a evil mushroom that ends reality

    • @ToxicDom-ph9xo
      @ToxicDom-ph9xo 5 лет назад +1

      That would make sense

    • @ToxicPea
      @ToxicPea 5 лет назад +1

      To be frank, Matpat is right about Kirby being an incarnated god of destruction. However, Matpat purposely left out the fact that Kirby had developed a conscience that has made itself visible in Kirby's motives in Triple Deluxe and Robobot, most likely thanks to his past adventures.

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 5 лет назад

      She doesn't _want_ to, she just does it when she needs to.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 Месяц назад +1

    7:28 Dedede has LITERALLY done this before. Its not that big of a stretch for Kirby to assume he'd do it again.

  • @nocandy33
    @nocandy33 2 года назад +3

    I hope you finally make part 2 considering the new Kirby game just came out.

  • @ShursGarden
    @ShursGarden 5 лет назад +74

    Some rebuttals
    1. Kirby's an infant, of course he wouldn't ask questions. His perception of the world is very black and white.
    2. Magalor wasn't really a villain. He was corrupted by the power of the Master Crown. You know this from his appearances in Dream Collection and that one free game they released as an expansion of the side mode from Robobot.
    3. If you look on Magalor's screen when he's saying "Hey, go become Dragonborn," it's showing a very clear reason why he should fight. Landia shot down the Starcutter. Magalor's lying does not mean Kirby's the villain.
    4. Dedede has stolen ALL the food in Dream Land
    5. The Halberd is a war machine.

    • @scroogemcfuck8110
      @scroogemcfuck8110 5 лет назад +14

      And Kirby doesn't eat the posessed people in Dream Land 3, he can't eat bosses and all he does to them is exorcise them.

    • @hollow1279
      @hollow1279 5 лет назад +11

      Shurikens Miner Fist, it’s only stated that he is an infant in the anime, which is not canon. And of course Magolor was evil, he stated in the EX mode of Kirby Return to Dreamland that the Master Crown Can allow you to conquer the universe (but yes, you’re right about the crown corrupting him).

    • @DD-ur4nw
      @DD-ur4nw 5 лет назад +2

      A game theorie

    • @ShursGarden
      @ShursGarden 5 лет назад +5

      @@hollow1279 Honestly, I treat the Anime as Schrodinger's Canon. If it fits in the games, it's canon. If not, it's not.
      However, the Anime also shaped the series as we know it. The title logo of most of the games is based off of the Anime's logo. And most things about Kirby are brought over as well. One of the most major things being his infantile mannerisms. He can't really talk (with only a few examples after the Anime's airing, since Avalanche isn't really canon, considering it's really just Puyo Puyo), only making basic sounds.

    • @ICHGArmy
      @ICHGArmy 5 лет назад +1

      Also: mentioning that he is a child, kirby doesn't have a clear understanding of what death is, or murder for that matter. He may be a force of destruction, but he doesnt really understand what ue's doing.

  • @estherchoi5640
    @estherchoi5640 5 лет назад +76

    In the anime series metaknight says that kirby was made by nightmare but kirby refused to be evil

    • @3GearsTurning
      @3GearsTurning 5 лет назад +20

      Anime is non-cannon to Kirby games. Also Meta-Knight is the same species as kirby

    • @hunterazr
      @hunterazr 5 лет назад +8

      To be fair, either he is a reincarnation of a god of destruction or a creation of nightmares, both are equally scarry

    • @TheMegaxPlus
      @TheMegaxPlus 5 лет назад

      That could explain a lot, but it's not cannon

    • @yusmillion
      @yusmillion 5 лет назад +2

      for the canon games kirby is most likely a reincarnation of destruction. But for the non-canon anime kirby is a monster created from nightmare.

    • @robertwillie9184
      @robertwillie9184 2 месяца назад

      Even though he's killed millions.

  • @keidagamer2319
    @keidagamer2319 2 года назад +1

    Kirby: oh I unleashed an evil being oh well
    Dedede: THIS IS YOUR FAULT UOU DEAL WITH IT! *shoots out Kirby like a cannon ball*

  • @whimsicallab6035
    @whimsicallab6035 Год назад +2

    So from the first half, at least, Kirby is a gullible child just trying to help

  • @TheCJBrine
    @TheCJBrine 5 лет назад +170

    Kirby is naive, nearly completely pure, and doesn’t seem to fully understand the difference between good and evil; despite this, while it seems he may descend from the Dark Matter species, he chooses to be on the side of good when he finally realizes what’s going on.

    • @goggles2698
      @goggles2698 5 лет назад +23

      Dont forget he's also a child

    • @TheCJBrine
      @TheCJBrine 5 лет назад +4

      goggles that too :p

    • @Metalguy40
      @Metalguy40 5 лет назад +10

      Pretty much my thoughts so far while watching this theory. I’ll wait for part 2 till full judgement, but so far it’s ok in some parts

    • @swadlooner2385
      @swadlooner2385 5 лет назад +5

      @@goggles2698 Well, that isn't entirely true since the anime isn't canon (if that was what you meant), but I would agree with CJ Brine. However, it hasn't be confirmed at least.
      I do want to mention that the U.S. did describe their Kirby as barbaric...

    • @goggles2698
      @goggles2698 5 лет назад +3

      @@swadlooner2385 ok seems legit

  • @pirilon78
    @pirilon78 3 года назад +1376

    Matpat: KIRBY IS AN EVIL GOD OF HYPER DEATH
    kirby fans: yeah we know

    • @newtrysans64
      @newtrysans64 2 года назад +21

      I see a undertale référence
      You
      Go to heaven

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 2 года назад +12

      Good for them, i don't.

    • @pirilon78
      @pirilon78 2 года назад +9

      @@keelanbarron928 ok

    • @justafan9206
      @justafan9206 2 года назад +5

      True.

    • @DevilBlanky
      @DevilBlanky 2 года назад +8

      this is my reaction lol (im kirby fan)

  • @Decimator_517
    @Decimator_517 2 года назад +3

    Lol, whenever my friends use Kirby in smash, i'm gonna go ultra instinct.

  • @wormy_
    @wormy_ 2 года назад +1

    i don't belive you kirbo is just so pink and fluffy and innocent and HUNGRY FOR FLESH AND SOULS in a cute way

  • @ChrisPickaxe
    @ChrisPickaxe 5 лет назад +132

    MatPat: It's over, *Kirby*
    I have the high ground.
    Kirby: You underestimate my power!

    • @GreenyNeko
      @GreenyNeko 5 лет назад +6

      Kirby: Poyo!

    • @coolcarlgaming2005
      @coolcarlgaming2005 5 лет назад +1

      It’s over! I have the moral high ground!

    • @Xigzagamer
      @Xigzagamer 5 лет назад +5

      *Kirby inhales*
      *MatPat no longer has the high ground*
      *Kirby transforms* "but that's just a theory a game theory!"

    • @mrFox45150
      @mrFox45150 5 лет назад

      kirby: *SUCC*

  • @Littleton3513
    @Littleton3513 5 лет назад +234

    I have a cat named Kirby he’s cute on the outside
    And cute on the inside

    • @TaoScribble
      @TaoScribble 5 лет назад +2

      Lies! No cat is cute on the inside!

    • @Littleton3513
      @Littleton3513 5 лет назад

      TaoScribble lol 😂

    • @Darkflametailz
      @Darkflametailz 5 лет назад +3

      not going to lie XD I thought you were going to make a Captain Marvel 'Goose' joke lol

    • @unwiser
      @unwiser 5 лет назад

      Oh I thought he was just a slab of hairy meat

    • @Littleton3513
      @Littleton3513 5 лет назад

      Darkflametailz that scene is disgusting

  • @mr.creeper6836
    @mr.creeper6836 Год назад +1

    Everyone: Oh no the god is destroying everything!
    Kirby: Will someone think of the cake?

  • @user-zl4vs3di9n
    @user-zl4vs3di9n 2 года назад +1

    He's just a baby!
    That explains his "think first" behavior.

  • @pipikyyy625
    @pipikyyy625 5 лет назад +201

    He protecc
    He atacc
    But most importantly
    *u shall not touch his snacc*

  • @mickeyboy6808
    @mickeyboy6808 5 лет назад +462

    Game Character: *Exists*
    Game Theory: Wait, That Illegal

  • @wendigosstudio8586
    @wendigosstudio8586 Год назад +1

    During the newer games kirbys actually learning, and not mindlessly destroying and has a goal, which is more terrifying

  • @tambourineofdreams5351
    @tambourineofdreams5351 2 года назад +1

    14:46 this got me thinking, what if Elfilis was trying to do the same? what if what they wanted from the Forgor or however the land is called was something that they had?

  • @cyan.6399
    @cyan.6399 5 лет назад +62

    4:01
    Would like to note that Kirby literally smacked Dedede in the face with a holy weapon to get him off.

    • @Lillybonnet22
      @Lillybonnet22 5 лет назад +8

      The real equivalent would be a jesus bitch slap

    • @catnat6571
      @catnat6571 5 лет назад +5

      Would also like to note that Dedede had just finished fighting Kirby in a fight to the death.

  • @nightmare2750
    @nightmare2750 5 лет назад +327

    Mario is sociopath, link is dead, Kirby is a good of destruction. Next olimar is an evil dictator.

  • @wasthatthebiteof8796
    @wasthatthebiteof8796 2 года назад +1

    Fun fact: Kirby is a baby, therefore, he doesn't know what he's doing. A kid can unknowingly do bad things to the eyes of a mature person (Meta Knight, Dedede) but not knowing better.

  • @honeycitrus4770
    @honeycitrus4770 2 года назад +1

    kirby really just goes "oh no, anyways" in most of these games, huh?

  • @jameskarg3240
    @jameskarg3240 5 лет назад +205

    To Kirbys deffence
    He literally a baby. Canonically, he wasent supppsed to wake up for another thousand years as a fully formwd Star Warrior. Meta Knight its sort of what Kirby would be, fully matured and grown.
    He seems mindless, sort of because he almost is, the same as most infabts. They dont ask, they just...do.

    • @martianmadwoman
      @martianmadwoman 5 лет назад +16

      can we even call the show canon

    • @koolkidgamr6260
      @koolkidgamr6260 5 лет назад +18

      The show isn't canon m8, auto debunk

    • @moon4236
      @moon4236 5 лет назад +12

      I think thats just in the anime. If I remember correctly, in the games (the manual of the first I think) he is described as a young boy and in some games he talks. So not and adult but not a baby either.

    • @pigglesgoomshby7249
      @pigglesgoomshby7249 5 лет назад +9

      Moon 42 Still tho kids dont know much either

    • @cookiebot2342
      @cookiebot2342 5 лет назад +1

      Not saying anything about you as a person, but you are literally attempting to justify mass murder. I know its fictional, but still...

  • @saucechan9339
    @saucechan9339 5 лет назад +101

    Kirby is a god of destruction stuck in a frickin single celled baby. This makes total sense.

    • @Aereto
      @Aereto 5 лет назад +3

      Well, the universe is full of powerful creatures, so...

    • @bryanneblett3122
      @bryanneblett3122 5 лет назад +1

      *cough* MARX

  • @Livi-chan435-xq6vy
    @Livi-chan435-xq6vy 9 месяцев назад +1

    Kirby is what happens when a chaos god is reborn as a child(that may or may not have ADHD)

  • @whichpen35
    @whichpen35 2 года назад +3

    actually, yes, the reincarnation of god thing is probably true, he is a positive reincartion of god (god is Void/Void Termina)

  • @WilliamAbelXIII
    @WilliamAbelXIII 5 лет назад +307

    Video Game Protagonist: *exists*
    MatPat: Interesting theory. Let's test it! *Adam Ruins Everything theme plays*

  • @MegaDude10
    @MegaDude10 5 лет назад +174

    Protagonist: *Exists*
    MatPat: THIS IS THE SPAWN OF SATAN!
    Protagonist: *Does literally anything Heroic*
    MatPat: PSYCHOPATH WHO MURDERS FOR NO REASON PAY NO ATTENTION THE HEROIC ACTIONS!
    Villain: Commits mass genocide, kick puppies, and is completely irredeemable.
    MatPat: THIS IS A PRECIOUS ANGEL!
    I'm starting to think MatPat's just a salty Super Villain with a burning hatred for heroes.
    Edit: Wow, this dumb joke got popular fast.

    • @DPowered2
      @DPowered2 5 лет назад +4

      I mean he wasn't wrong about any or majority of it. I mean your comment is pretty unfair to just say.

    • @magicbrooms8542
      @magicbrooms8542 5 лет назад +29

      @@DPowered2 He... kinda was wrong about the majority, actually.
      Or at the very least, he excluded a ton of information and context to paint a biased picture. The time Kirby sank Meta Knight's ship and Meta Knight says that to the crew? It was because they wanted to stay behind to fight Kirby. Shortly afterwards, they apologize and everyone evacuates. Kirby did not watch a ship full of dead people. In DinoBlade? He was ignorant about the destruction because he was, ya know, minding his own business fast asleep. When he wakes up and sees all the chaos, he goes off to try and stop it not on some revenge based warpath like MatPat claims. And when he finds out what the bird was doing and why, he helps feed the babies as well as show them how to fly and the mother bird thanks him for it.
      Basically, Mat's not even giving the viewers half the story in this part. He's cutting out bits and pieces entirely that fit the view of his claims without giving any of the full context or information because if the viewers had that, it would easily contrast with the tone he's trying to set for this episode. Hopefully he'll address all this in Part 2 because as it is, Part 1 has just been intellectually dishonest and anyone with knowledge on Kirby has to suspend their disbelief far too much to even be remotely entertained by this theory.

    • @joeysingh8289
      @joeysingh8289 5 лет назад +2

      @@DPowered2 r/whoooooooosh

    • @bretginn1419
      @bretginn1419 5 лет назад +6

      DPowered Smith He is pretty wrong. Like in his Dedede is a hero and Magolor was manipulating Kirby, all Kirby knew on Dedede was that he stole food and how that was bad. The plot could've been avoided if Dedede just talked to Kirby about it, which he tries to do at the very end, but Kirby is busy trying to put the Star Rod back. For Magolor, Return heavily implies that Magolor is being controlled by the Master Crown, and Magolor does a good job passing off as Kirby's friend. Kirby likes helping his friends, so he saw no reason to assume Magolor was lying. Heck, Magolor actually tries to make up for all the trouble afterwards by making theme parks for Kirby and friends like in the Dream Collection or Dedede's Drum Dash. Heck, one could argue that destroying Nova wasn't all bad, just look at Star Dream.
      MatPat is deliberately ignoring a lot of stuff to prove his point.

    • @tale7955
      @tale7955 5 лет назад +2

      @@magicbrooms8542 Matpat: Says that a pink talking goo it´s evil because kill and then ask.
      Everybody: THAT´S WRONG, HE DO ALSO GOOD ACTIONS!!
      Yep, that make a lot of sense.

  • @colindion4611
    @colindion4611 2 года назад +1

    In nightnare in dreamland it was kind of dededes fault because he didnt tell kirby before hand that nightmare was in the fountain. Dedede was being selfish by not telling kirby so he can get all the glory. And he knows kirby would go full hero if dreamland is in danger.

  • @MonsteryRedery-et6sg
    @MonsteryRedery-et6sg 7 месяцев назад +1

    Also as kirby is walking and dedede is begging him to stop, he has a confused look on his face as if he just thinks dedede just wants everyone to not have any dreams, so I still like him

  • @maxshramuk661
    @maxshramuk661 5 лет назад +64

    *Note: The bottom has Star Allies spoilers*
    I do understand the point of this theory and I don't disagree. However, there are a few things:
    You misunderstand Adventure's plot. Yes, the removal of the star rod prevented Nightmare from appearing, but the removal of the Star Rod also caused dreams to disappear. Thus, Kirby saw this as a problem and fixed it. A breakdown in communication caused the plot to develop in the way it did; as far as Kirby was concerned, he was bringing dreams back to Dream Land.
    For Milky Way Wishes, what else are you going to do if your planet was threatened like that? Someone had a plan that Kirby decided to follow. Now truth be told, everyone should stop using the ancients to solve their problem, but he still did it to solve the problem. For Dyna Blade, he fought Dyna Blade to stop the damage she was causing Dream Land.
    With impulsiveness, I'm surprised you're using Epic Yarn considering how Yin Yarn's invasion was only just rumors at that point (even King Dedede didn't realize until after it was too late, which you don't bring up), and when he got sucked into the yarn world, he immediately tried to fix the problems present. If you wanted to use a spinoff for this purpose, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse would have been a better choice, as it's implied his motivation was more of an apple. That entire part ignores Triple Deluxe, which he rescues King Dedede for no reason other than they're friends; Dream Land, which Kirby brings the food back because it's the right thing to do; Spring Breeze, which is the same as Dream Land; Planet Robobot, which Kirby is late to only because he was sleeping and he didn't realize that Haltmann's works was invading until after they already did; Kirby 64, which Ribbon convinces Kirby to save her planet; the ending of Heroes in Another Dimension, in which he willingly purifies all the antagonists for no reason other than he's a nice guy; and the main story for Star Allies, which (if I recall) also features Dedede stealing food (although this time it's because he's under Void Termina's influence)
    Also, with Return to Dream Land, King Dedede, Meta Knight, and Bandana Waddle Dee are shown to help out Magolor just as willingly. You really can't use that as a point against him and later talk about how King Dede and Meta Knight are both comparatively mature if they all did the same action.
    Also, while you're right for the most part with Squeak Squad, Daroach was the one who planned on and eventually did let Dark Nebula out. Kirby didn't have much to do with unsealing him.
    That said, Kirby is more "chaotic good" than "chaotic neutral" like suggested. It's true that he does cause quite a bit of chaos/destruction and resorts to violence first, but given his understanding of each situation, he was in the right. If this theory is going where I think it is, then Kirby's not a reincarnation of Void Termina but more of an alternate version of him, just exposed to the energy of positive emotions (vs. Dark Matter's negative emotions). As such, by definition, even though he's naive and does resort to violence first, he's a good character. If only a bit chaotic (which makes sense considering void termina)

    • @thomased22legoyodagaming
      @thomased22legoyodagaming 5 лет назад +3

      yeah dudes as soon as another youtuber makes a theory (srry i forgot witch one did the positive termina theory )
      he just adds super clickbate crap and splits it into 2 parts to make 2 times the revenue what happened to MP he used to be so good with original theory's and much less clickbate

  • @xcite3122
    @xcite3122 5 лет назад +178

    Hey, resident Kirby fanatic here. Today I'm gonna go over just about everything MatPat got wrong. I know I'm not the first and I hope I'm not the last.
    1:45 This is the first time you used fan-made Kirby Star Allies box art and it also isn't the last.
    3:32 King Dedede shattered the Star Rod and Kirby seeks to reassemble it because he believes that it will restore dreams when placed in the fountain. At this point in the series, King Dedede has been Kirby's oldest rival. So naturally, after he tries fighting Kirby yet again and loses, Kirby is inclined to push forward despite the King's wishes. After all, this is the same guy who's been stealing food and generally been acting like a jerk. I don't think most heroes would believe the villain after years of torment.
    4:56 Magolor is found in a ship that was literally crashing and burning (or smoking) at the beginning of the game. All Kirby and the player knows is that an evil-looking dragon with an evil crown just tried to kill Magolor. Magolor was also extremely kind to Kirby throughout the adventure. He cheers him on and offers to take him on what seemed like an exotic vacation for the latter half of the game.
    5:59 This is one of many times you mention that Kirby is essentially murdering innocents, which is far from the truth. Most Waddle Dees injure him, Bronto Burts fly directly towards you in most games, and every other enemy has some sort of attack that they directly use to hurt you, such as Waddle Doo's beam and Sir Kibble's cutter blade.
    7:08 Nova can be seen hurtling towards Popstar and colliding with both the Sun AND Moon prior to the fight. If the Sun & Moon hadn't held Nova off and if Kirby didn't destroy it, Popstar could've faced a catastrophic collision with a giant celestial automaton with an explosion that could rival the likes of a superNOVA (Keep in mind that an explosion of this same caliber ended up knocking out Kirby and totaling his robot in the climax of Planet Robobot).
    8:17 You say that the Squeak Squad stole the cake. Although the player is also lead to believe this for most of the game, this is not the case. In fact, a waddle dee can be seen snatching the cake for about a single frame in the first cutscene. But I won't fault you for using Kirby beating up Dedede first as evidence.
    10:29 Kirby ate the tomato because it resembles his favorite food, Maxim-Tomatoes. When he's transported to Patchland, he's informed of Yin-Yarn's evil plans and he goes on a quest to stop him with Prince Fluff.
    11:45 Essentially waging war against people who are lazy in a place literally called "Dreamland" isn't at all heroic, hence why Kirby blows up the **battleship** Halberd. You don't exactly casually park a battleship somewhere with the intention of peacefully conquering someplace.
    12:28 The Meta-Knights aren't dead. They can be seen alongside Meta Knight when he uses one of his specials in Planet Robobot. Its unconfirmed if Sailor Waddle Dee survived.
    12:38 Kirby's Avalanche is a reskin of a Puyo-Puyo game. Please don't take this as concrete canon evidence, especially considering that Kirby acts wildly out of character in this game.
    14:06 Said "mysterious, dark substance" can be seen possessing multiple people. And again, enemies still hurt Kirby.
    15:05 Considering that all the food is aligned and Kirby and Dedede are partaking in a race that includes a start and finish line as well as a friendly waddle dee to signify the race's beginning, I'd say that this was likely an organized race, meaning that all this food racing is in good nature and approved by others.
    15:10 The giant evil bird that is terrorizing everyone's crops flies by and wakes you from your sleep. Of course Kirby is going to stop it. Upon defeating Dyna Blade, he realizes that she is a mother and attempts to help her newborn children. Later on, Dyna Blade can be seen helping Kirby stop Meta Knight in Meta Knightmare.
    For the love of god do your research please. You have such a wide audience of people who you could be introducing to fandoms such as this one and rather than making a good effort to give a quality summary of the series' mysteries, you continue to spread misinformation. Its especially worse considering that you basically took a bunch of stuff out of context or cut important scenes short just to prove your point. Half the time it doesn't even seem like you actually sat down and watched/played a good chunk of these games. Oh and next time you steal some random boxart from Google Images, post the source.

    • @gordonramsayfan327
      @gordonramsayfan327 5 лет назад +21

      Well this is Game Theory. This is the same guy who said Mario was a communist, said Sans was Ness, and gave Undertale to the pope. Taking this guy seriously would be a joke. I hate him making a theory on Kirby because all that's going to happen is he's going to say the Void Soul theory and all his fans will act like he invented it.

    • @Nakagolas
      @Nakagolas 5 лет назад +9

      I really like how you consider it okay to steal something just because it's your favorite thing. You missed the part where kirby does these things without *any* consideration or feeling, which is the point of the video. The point isn't what happens, the point is how kirby reacts to what happens.

    • @gordonramsayfan327
      @gordonramsayfan327 5 лет назад +14

      @@Nakagolas Your talking about the tomato right? Because that was ontop of a bush, with Yin Yarn hiding in it. Kirby couldn't have seen him.

    • @kirbyfrigginkirby5264
      @kirbyfrigginkirby5264 5 лет назад +10

      @@Nakagolas I mean, Kirby is confirmed to be just a kid. He makes mistakes because a good chunk of the time he doesn't know any better.

    • @MoronicRoc
      @MoronicRoc 5 лет назад +2

      "Niiiiiiiccceeeee!" - Joseph Joestar

  • @Nothing_Nothing882
    @Nothing_Nothing882 Год назад +2

    RUclips think's Kirby is evil because the final Boss of Kirby Star allise looks Like Kirby him self

  • @marieragsdale5471
    @marieragsdale5471 2 года назад +2

    Mat.... no. Kirby doesn't watch them die in Revenge of Metaknight... his crew leaves the ship. You obviously didn't play through the game or watch it all the way through .

  • @Eli-akad
    @Eli-akad 5 лет назад +85

    Well to be honest, Kirby is still considered a hero based on the fact that he does save the day. Nobody says a hero has to have everyone’s best interest at heart, however it is a good quality to have. The portion where u mention Kirby being concerned about his strawberry cake for example. There isn’t anything wrong with that, especially if in the end he still saves the day. His motives weren’t inherently evil or villainous so that’s a terrible example. Also the 4 times Kirby was misguided by the true main enemy wasn’t a good piece of evidence on ur end. Each scenario was different, so the fact that he was tricked those 4 times can’t be held against him in that sense. Maybe if it was the same exact plot being repeated then yeah I can see that logic. He merely is inadvertently aiding the enemy as they try to manipulate him. One last thing, ur taking player choice into account for this theory. Outside of boss battles, in most Kirby games u can choose to either kill or ignore most enemies in game. It’s all up to the player and how they choose to play in that moment.

    • @ryanscott1680
      @ryanscott1680 5 лет назад

      Well, to be honest, there are thousands of waddle dees that'll never make it home to their childeren. That's kirby's doing

    • @tale7955
      @tale7955 5 лет назад +3

      Stop with the "do not take into account what the player does" because that would literally go against the premise of the game. You can not absorb the power of an enemy without killing it. So you can not argue that killing or not is the player's decision when the main mechanic is to do it.-
      This is stupid...-

    • @nikushimiumbra5464
      @nikushimiumbra5464 5 лет назад +8

      I agree.. i honestly think matpat is just doing anything he can in clickbaity way to make people think hes evil. Im pissed he mentioned the ending to dyna blade but not the part where kirby bonds with the chicks and teaches them how to fly and how to grow up. Like. Just because it wasnt convenient for him he just left it out. Most people that watch this probably arent as familiar with kirby and he is ACTIVELY misinforming people.

    • @lancelindlelee7256
      @lancelindlelee7256 5 лет назад +2

      A hero who isn't heroic. Looking at you Endeavor

    • @Eli-akad
      @Eli-akad 5 лет назад +3

      Tarkanamastecito See that’s not the point, the point is that u can literally just ignore the enemy smart guy, I stated it plain an simple. U don’t have to worry about killing and enemy by absorbing them if u flat out don’t inhale them. It’s not hard to do in any Kirby level, so instead of tryna call me stupid, think critically.

  • @imbuffysummers
    @imbuffysummers 5 лет назад +674

    Mattpatt: Part 2 coming next week!
    _...meanwhile 2 weeks and 3 new videos later..._

    • @animatedgoose
      @animatedgoose 5 лет назад +9

      Riiight

    • @ValnorSith
      @ValnorSith 5 лет назад +64

      A long while back, Pat stated he was aware we hate multi-part theory videos. This is why. Plenty of times he never bothers completing the theory and just leaves it hanging to jump to the next topic that catches his attention. I understand that with a successful monetized channel, you need to keep up with what is currently trending like the supposed bane of his existence, FNAF. But still, either commit to finishing a multi-part theory or don't bother doing multi-parters in the first place.

    • @grand3838
      @grand3838 5 лет назад +13

      Can already tell you ahead of time he’s going to talk about the already established theory about Kirby being a reincarnation of Void Termina after collecting purely good energy.
      At least that’s my assumption judging from what he says part 2 will be like

    • @valustaaurc5222
      @valustaaurc5222 5 лет назад +6

      ValnorSith or that he needs to rephrase has theory because his theory got debunked by some guy in the comment section and a guy named Meteorz.

    • @MT_Rift
      @MT_Rift 5 лет назад +2

      MORE FNAF LUL

  • @Mewtendo
    @Mewtendo 2 года назад +2

    2019 was like the best year for the internet for me and i use to watch this mans channel

  • @secretsbehindthekey
    @secretsbehindthekey Год назад +1

    Even though i cant forgive him....kirby will always be my sweet sweet pink puffball

  • @therealquade
    @therealquade 5 лет назад +167

    >glorified candy crush mod
    How DARE you insult puyo with that trash

    • @NikkiJakey
      @NikkiJakey 5 лет назад

      Yeah! Tell em!

    • @remixtheidiot5771
      @remixtheidiot5771 5 лет назад +2

      therealquade there was absolutely no taste in that joke as a fellow puyo popper myself.

    • @tovi3280
      @tovi3280 5 лет назад +1

      Puyo? Or
      POYOOOOOOOO

  • @rpergy6106
    @rpergy6106 3 года назад +707

    "Kirby is an unstoppable god with no mercy"
    And that, kids, is why we play Kirby in Smash

    • @LadyOnikara
      @LadyOnikara 2 года назад +18

      I prefer Meta Knight. He has cute wings and a spiffy sword.

    • @Not_Eggs
      @Not_Eggs 2 года назад +14

      Kirby has no nerfs. Sakurai loves them too much. (In Japan kirbys gender isn’t confirmed)

    • @happysatanproduction8854
      @happysatanproduction8854 2 года назад +4

      i dont really like to use kirby in smash because i dont use light characters. but whenever i use kirby, i obliterate

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 2 года назад +5

      @@Not_Eggs but then again, everywhere else he’s male

    • @sls12III
      @sls12III 2 года назад +1

      Sakurai himself was so scared of his own creation that he decided to nerf Kirby to extreme lows.

  • @jeremydiviney2
    @jeremydiviney2 2 года назад +1

    Ok, so at 11:07-11:11, the text in meta knights text box is literally isn’t the text. What really happens is, the halberd crew goes for a last ditch effort to stop Kirby and meta knight actually THANKS THEM for the idea, hence the boss fight with meta knight. I’m just surprised that game theory would lie about this kind of thing.