Lost "Puddle Jumper HP" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep.55
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In this review I get two Puddle Jumper HP surfboards from Lost to test. Both boards are stock 5’3” x 19.63 x 2.35 Liters of volume 26.75. The waves we got for testing were ideal for this model in the 1-3’ range.
One board is your typical polyurethane foam with polyester resin, and the other construction is something brand new Lost will be releasing this summer called C4. The C4 construction is still a bit of a secret and I don’t know all that goes into this new technology but it felt really good. Great flex and feel with increased speed in every turn. I also noticed less pressure dents on the deck of the C4 board compared to the PU and Lost’s other popular construction they call Carbon Wrap.
I was very impressed with this little High Performance groveler in the pocket and it’s down the line speed.
This Lost Puddle Jumper HP is a favorite of mine for 2018 in the 1-3’ wave range.
Absolutely love your reviews. Particularly with the footage of your surfing in which you absolutely shred and then give us insight into how the board was performing at the time. Awesome
Metal Bear Stoked you like our show!!! Cheers
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Best thing about these reviews is your deep knowledge and understanding about board designs and the fact you back up what your saying with absolutely awesome surfing. Always look forward to your reviews popping up.
Metal Bear Yewww!!! Cheers for the kind words.
Rode my 5’6 libtech PJHP as a quad this morning in fun, but sort of weak head high surf. Was magic! Works so much better as a quad!
So glad i found your channel. Seen this notification in my inbox and was stoked and then you said ''so sit back and grab your favorite drink....'' that was a 20 minute pause for the cause. haha! dude. i can't get enough of your reviews. This channel rocks!
ɅƝȺЯĊHƔ ƵΣƊ Yewww!! So stoked you found us too. Super funny a few weeks a fan of the show that he would always grab his favorite drink on a new episode and sit back and enjoy our show. Ha
I’ve got the original puddle jumper 5’6, it’s such a fun board to ride. I was worried because it’s so short and I’m almost 6ft, but after getting my first couple waves I learned that it’s definitely meant to be rode short. Good video man, you have great info, you’re a good surfer too.
im 6'1 would a 5'8 be ok?
@@ZeRoStyLeZ1212would be fine bro
@@jbp9430 I grew 4 inches over summer would it still be fine?
Watched this video before I took out my new PJHP, set it up as a quad, and it rode exactly as you described. Had to adjust myself to the foam distribution but after I got used to it, it was a speedster and definitely doesn’t feel like any other groveler. Insane review - super helpful. Thank you!!!!
When you first started I remember asking you about your Channel Islands relationship due to the fact that virtually all of the boards were from that brand. I've really appreciated the expansion in manufacturers and board construction. Keep up the awesome work!
Vaughan Heilman Cheers!!! Expanding has been great for our show and community. Thanks for you input.
Hands down best board reviews! Love it Noel.
Noel is becoming a "quads guy"!
This is the best board I’ve ever ridden. Great board!!
What size did you go? And your size if ya dont mind
@@bdj5543 I’m 155 lbs got a 5’5 on the puddle jumper rounded pin (which has less volume). I wish I got a 5’7 though
@@mango_46 still go ok? Im 174lbs and just ordered a 5'9
@@bdj5543 yeah that would be more than enough probably
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Will never buy or consider buying a new board, without watching a review here from Noel Salas !!! Great info, and learned a lot from fins from you Noel !! God Bless !!! Got my Helium Gamma after your review..and all went perfect with the board.. now looking to a 1 to 3 foot floatey performance board and after watching bthis Im hooked into this HP board !
MOTOKITER71 Yewww!! Thanks for the kind words. Stoked the Gamma goes good for you. Cheers
Amazing review as always! While I haven’t tried the PJHP. I’m 5’8” 138lbs and went with the 5’2” Seaside at 26.5L. I struggle massively in small conditions. I was seriously ready to go with a PJHP (size up, get some extra liters compared to Seaside etc). But I’m wondering if I should just get a longer Seaside…. But the PJHP seems new and a fun way to learn and experiment with fin combos. But I do love how crazy fast and cruisey the Seaside can be…
I just want the right board for summertime at El Porto :) …that isn’t a 7ft foamie
Maybe size up a little longer and go up a bit in Volume… maybe 30-32L. Another Seaside or PJHP would be ideal
Thanks for the help Noel, you’re the GOAT 🐐
Another great show, really intrigued by this board. However, given all these new and exotic constructions, I think you should report WEIGHT and DENSITY as well as length and volume. Just get a $30 postal scale and weigh 'em, super easy. My favorite construction is Merrick Eco-Gold EPS, though I also like the Merrick Spinetek.
Jason Foat I have a scale... I will try to incorporate that. Thanks
I believe the puddle jumper that I just bought off craigslist came from you. Can't wait to try it out!
Robert Le Yewww
Nice man, that new construction looks pretty sick!
Epic review dude - just got one myself and looking forward to putting it through its paces on some fun beaches here in Oz! Thanks for the advice on the fins too - definitely going to stick with it as a quad!
How does it go? Im thinking of jumping on one
@@bdj5543 I really enjoy it - super fun for anything up to head high. I've actually put up a full review too on my channel. I'd also consider the Dominator 2 as well - heaps of fun!
@@StokedForTravel good to hear, i just ordered a 5'9.
Sweet as, I'll come have a look at ur review 🤙
@@bdj5543 niiiiiiice! Let me know how you find it!
Epic Review once again Noel. Im ordering a C4 PJHP after watching your surfing on that bad boy. Thinking it could be the board for a Podium finish this year at ECSC. Hope to see you in the water soon, Cheers
Excellent reviews! So much detail and knowledge...Thank you!
Hey Noel, been watching your reviews and tutorial videos a lot lately and I have to say the content is amazing. Thanks so much for putting this stuff together! With that said, I was hoping you could give me a little advice.
I'm just moving into intermediate surfing, finally getting pumping down and starting to practice cutbacks and re-entries. I'm surfing 4-5 times a week and surf skating just as often. I was hoping you could help me choose the right board and literage based on my experience with the boards below, given I'm 5'10 170lbs:
-36.9L Couch potato with controller quads: super easy to get up, pumps easy, tough to execute sharp turns
-36L High Five with rasta quads: best performance of any board I've ridden. With Slater 3.1 quads though felt way too fast for me to control and always ahead of sections
-35.35L Black Diamond with thruster fins: feels almost as good as high five, first board I pumped on
-33.9L PotatoNator: my drops felt late and I was always behind the section
I also have these boards, but haven't tried them:
33.5L 5'10 Dominator
34L 6' Dominator
35.8L 5'10 Pod Mod
And I will be getting a puddle jumper (or PJHP) in the 34-36L range.
I ride socal beaches, mostly Huntington, SanO, Dana Point, and San Clemente. I find fast waves like Newport to be very difficult.
So between all these boards what do you think will help me progress the fastest, and what literage would be best?
Thanks again for all the helpful content, love your channel!
dah sky I say 32-34 liters is a good range for you. You quiver looks pretty good. Maybe get on that Dominater and see how it goes
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks I'll try it out!
Epic review Noel! I'm so hyped to upgrade my PJ RP now!
Ardy Aryan Yewww!!! Just make sure you get a upright Quad set of fins.
Thanks! will do! also I ride the 6"0 right now (40.5 L), what dims do you recommend on the new one?
Ardy Aryan I would try to stay the same Liters... it should have a more HP feel to it because of the shape modifications.
awesome! thanks a lot
Nice carves/turns & 1 sick floater/ explosive off lip move
I haven't surfed a 5'3 board in over 15 years and I'm 30
Does the FCS2 reactor fins come as a quad set up? I’m only seeing the thruster set up and the back two trailer as an option. Just wanted to double check as these fins aren’t cheap.
Great reviews keep it up!
Patrick Nickols I don’t remember if they came together or separate sorry. The Quad Rears are my favorite.
Hey Noel, thanks for the great review. I'm interested in a Lib Tech review since the technology is innovative and rock solid but I can't find any in your channel.
Keep up the great work and have fun!
catabolic beast Sorry I have not tried one yet.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Ok, nevermind, so now I'm sure there is no review, thx.
Anyway, the Lib Tech Boards are very popular around here at an artificial river wave since they are so solid.
I haven't seen one at the beach, although they have been around for a good while. If I may suggest: please test the RNF Redux, because you have reviewed at least two familiar shapes but with different constructions.
Alright, thanks again and stay healthy.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 would you do a lib tech review at some point? They’ve got a new construction that I’ve seen my buddy has in his sword fish says he likes it better than the old construction would love to see a review on one thanks!
@@cyberxdeth Sure... they seem heavy and stiff to me.
The board looks great. I am in doubt whether to buy a RNF 96 or the PJ HP. I will primarily be surfing it in waves from 1-4 ft with little power. Also thinking about buying the board in the lib tech construction. What would you recommend @Noel Salas. Stoked to hear your opinion about it!
I say 96 in Black Sheep
The best reviews hands down, plus you absolutely rip! Had a question on what rear quad fins you recommend using with the front hs1 generations? Mahalo from Hawaii!
ladyjo808 In Futures get the HS Quad Rears. In FCSII get the medium Reactor Quad Rears.
Hi noel,
I am riding large size fins, do you recommend using large rear quad fins or go with medium?
@@mitchroberts1647 Medium Quad Rears
hi. can you please review these grovelers in small waves
You nailed it. Great board
I have a set of those HS quad fins and they are amazing.
Thank you for the review super helpful!! I'm from Italy and most of the time is small, mushy waves here I'm looking for a board for which allows me to enjoy those days.
What is the difference between this Puddle Jumper HP, the RNF redux and the Lost MR California Twin?
Which one would you suggest considering I also already have a more performance shortboard for better days?
Thank you
Do you think the same fin set up would work on the puddle jumper hp round tail? Awesome review as always.
Yes... use a good pivot set to help you get into the lip quickly with that round tail
Hi Noel, when choosing a small wave board which would you choose between the Lost Puddle Jumper HP and the Puddle Jumper Fish? Keeping in mind it would be for 1-3 foot fat waves. Which did you prefer for these waves? I ride a 29.5L everyday driver and was thinking of going up to 32L for this type of board due to the waves I’ll be riding. I’m same weight as you. Do you have any other favourite boards in this range? What about carbon v PU for bumpy wind affected waves? Cheers
Scott Hamilton I like the PJHP better... a bit more performance. Both boards are fun and go good In gutless 1-3’ surf. If you surf a lot of choppy surf then I would stick to PU. EPS goes better in cleaner surf.
I picked up a 5’4” stock dims round tail in C4 construction and I really dig it. It seems to be more of a mid range board than a groveler I think. Noel, will you or have you done a review / breakdown of the C4 construction? The reason I ask is I am considering picking up one as a custom squash and would love to get feedback before I order one.
Yes… I like the C4 tech. It’s got good flex and more durability compared to most eps/epoxy boards including Lightspeed and Carbon Wrap
Can't wait to watch this one. What about reviewing the Black Dart tech once ?
Cheers
Mr Greg Lost has not given me a BD construction to review yet.
Noel can shred on anything
Hi noel, another great review. Looks a lot better as a quad for sure... what do you think is the best 1-4 board for pocket surfing out of this pjhp, Uber driver or the rocket wide?
elb2018 Rocket Wide is better in the pocket in 1-3’ waves out of those 3 boards. The RW and PJHP are epic in 1-3’ surf and the UD can handle 1-5’.
Noel awesome review. Curious if you think this C4 construction is as good as dampening in chop as the FireWire. I had a V2 rocket in their cork construction and hated it. It’s durability was amazing but the paddling was not good in chop. I loved my libtec puddle jumper but the fins were always an issue. I’d. Love to get the HP one if it’s durable especially if it’s as durable as FireWire.
Maurice Cureton The Firewire constructions are a bit more durable. Not sure about the C4 being as good in the chop because I don’t surf choppy waves. Sorry
hey - if you had to choose 1 versatile, all around board for *mostly small* surf but will also perform in head high +, would you choose the hypto krypto or something else? thanks.
Andrew Lavenburg Never tried the Hypto. My choice for 1-8’ surf is the Pyzalien 2
Because of your review, I bought the PJHP. GOOD SHOW bro! Possible a favor from you to review the No Brainer Slater designed? Really like to see the difference between PJHP and No Brainer. Appreciate it ! Thank you!
Yo Law The No Brainer review is coming....
@@surfnshowreviews7777 awesome !!!!!! can't wait ! thank you bro!!
Hi Noel, love your reviews. I'm looking at getting the PJHP at 6'1" (40L) or Pod Mod 6'2" (40.7L) as my daily driver and something I can progress with. I'm low intermediate, about 195lb and usually surf 1-4ft beachies, sometimes slightly bigger. Any help or other recommendations would be great! Thanks,
I say Pod Mod… it will be a little shorter and paddle better. It will also carry more down the line speed.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 amazing, thank you!
Awesome little board :)
Hey Noel. How would you rate this Puddle Jumper HP vs the Uber XL, both being small wave performance boards? (Uber XL has wide point forward of center while PJHP has width behind center)
I'm wondering about the same too. I'm going to go with the Uber XL. The PJHP 6' has 38L and Uber XL has 36L. I was thinking there was more room for progression in the Uber XL
Every wave shown where you are on the non-cork model you look a bit faster and a bit more natural/comfortable as if you are not pondering corrections required heading into turns or cutbacks. I was excited by the C4 but this has halted me a bit.
Hi there Noel, great review. How do you notice differences beetwen this one and Puddle Fish about speed down the line? I guess PJHP works better surfing in the pocket and PF in open turns...
marcos redondo diaz The PF likes to cruise a bit more.. The PF goes better in flat faced waves with a lot of speed and fun for carves. You can surf it in the pocket a bit too but most Fish type boards that I have ridden like more down the line surfing.
Hi Noel, love your reviews. I ride a lost driver 2.0 5´5" 21,5 l. I wanted something for small, soft, summer waves. Would you recommend me it, or other as the lost Hydra?? Cheers from Spain
I like the PJHP better
HI, really stoked on that board, but hard to get in Europe at this time of year. What other models from other brands would you say is the same type off board. been looking at the No Brainer from SlaterDesigns but do not want a swallowTail (custom takes to long)
Martin Strøm I like the Astro POP, and Ultra Joe too
Epic Review!!PJHP is in my range because of your review!I am considering buying PJHP 5'4" 27.5L. I am 5'7", 150~145lb. normally ride 25~27L.you mentioned quad set with HS Fins in future.I know you use HS1(large size) and HS rear fins as quad.should I use HS2(Medium) with HS rear fins as quad? HS Rear fins seem Large.
경표 김 Large fins for small waves equal more speed and I used the HS1 Quad Rears and they go good. Very fast and easy to turn.
Great review. Very helpful. What length PJHP would you recommend for me?I’m 5’11”, 170 lb, 47 years old. Intermediate surfer, not getting younger. San Diego beaches and reefs. My shortboards are 5’10”, 6’0”. Also ride 5’6” and 5’8” keel fin fish. PJHP or regular PJ? And What length would you recommend in both? Thank you
Which model you'd prefer for small, choppy waves: the Paddle Jumper HP VS the Hydra model?
For 1-2’ mushy choppy waves I would choose the Hydra. If it’s 1-4’ mushy surf then I would choose the PJHP
Hey Noel, awesome Review. Trying to decide between PHJP and Pyzel Gremlin. What would be your Choice?
Waldo doo Both boards are epic!! The Gremlin Paddles better and a bit faster down the line and the PJHP is a little better in the pocket as a Quad. I didn’t care for the PJHP as a Thruster. The tail was too wide and the board wanted to stay flat in my turns.
Hi Noel, great depth on the review. Im in FL, so Im thinking of getting a PJHP that's 5'10" 35L. Im 6'1 192LBs. If I set it up as a quad, would this be ideal? Looking to shred
Absolutely…. If you are used to surfing 35L. I highly recommend my 5 fin set… fast, loose, silky smooth, with lots of Drive. Check them out here…
surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
If someone asked this question already I'm sorry: Would you prefer a Gremlin over a PJHP?
Philip Villanueva if you like a thruster better than Quad then I recommend the Gremlin. I think the PJHP is more performance but I liked it best as a Quad
Hey Noel. Love your videos. I have a 5'7 lib tech PJ for groveling. Do you think I could do the same length for the HP? I would be going down from 33.9 liters to 31. I am thinking it would work at that size in better waves but I'm not sure and the slimmed down shape would help with performance. I am an intermediate surfer and weigh about 172.
Sea Monkey Going down 2.9 liters is a lot... I like to think for every liter it’s roughly 8-10lbs. So if I loose 10lbs I will drop 1 liter of foam. Your almost dropping 3 liters... I would try to demo that board before you buy it.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you Noel!
how do you think the PJ HP would go with the machado seaside quads ?
steve wild It should go good
Hi Noel I m about to buy a lost puddle jumper.The quad that you use are Large size?what size fins would work better with this board medium or large.I weight 83 kilos plus wetsuit.Thanks in addvance and also I have to say what a great review you are doing an amazing job!!!!!!!!!!
giannis moschos Yes, I would go Large side fins with Medium Quad Rears. I also recommend a upright fin like the Reactors in FCS2 or Haydenshapes HS1 in Futures.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the quick response..I have the H3 nexus in large,do you think they will work with some medium rears or I should buy more upright front fins?
giannis moschos Try those first....
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks a million!!!
Do you guys think getting the 6.0 would be a good choice for a beginner?
The best start for a beginner is on a long board… maybe a 8’ soft top. Starting on a short board will make learning miserable…. And it will take longer to get good. Start with a long board and make surfing fun and easier
PJHP in c4 or FW SEASIDE in 1-4’ surf. Which one would you choose?
themxer2111 Tough one.... PJHP offers more performance in the pocket, Seaside is way faster and paddles a little better. It’s really about what you want this board to do for you??? Pocket shredding go PJHP... performance fish go Seaside
Hey noel puddle jumper hp or rocket wide, thorn between the two boards
Immiroberts Both boards are epic!!! The RW does tighter turns in the hook and incredible raps in the pocket for a small wave board. The PJHP has a really Wide Tail so it’s really quick down the line and with the right set of Upright fins it will get in the hook too. Cheers!!!
Nooooooel! my good man! what size were those fins you used?
I'm 197lbs and have a 5'9'' pjHP should I get L fins or M?
Thanks and I hope the surf companies pay you well.
Do you surf your small wave boards with more volume than your standard shortboards?
mitch mcmaster Roughly the same volume. If the board has a lot of volume under the chest and the nose is wide with low entry rocker then I have all the paddle I need. Keeping the board short and sensitive helps me be creative in small waves. Too much volume in these small hybrid boards make the front end heavy.
Oh is it actually the C4 u r reviewing as well in this show Noel ?
Mr Greg This is just a first look at the C4 Construction. I will be reviewing it when Lost allows me too. They will be launching it this summer... then I will do the construction review.
Cheers Noel. Very much looking forward to it.
Surf n Show Reviews has the c4 construction review come out?
Hey Noel, if you could choose one construction for durability and longevity would you go C4 or XTR for small waves/groveler..?
Christian69James C4
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel, about to order a Lost Bean Bag!
Lib tech
Hey Noel. Another PJHP question for you. I've been riding my PJHP as a twin + trailer. It feels really good and responsive but the last time I was out I was having a hard time making sections that I felt like I should have been able to make. I want to put in some quads like you recommend to see if that would give me more speed and performance. I know you recommended using upright fins like the Reactors but the only quads I have are the FCS II DHD large quads. Do you think that fin would work well on the PJHP or should I invest in another set of fins? Thanks as always for your help.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel! I just bought a Reactor 5 fin set.
@@seamonkey2641 How did the quads feel compared to the twin + trailer and which do you prefer?
Wich back quad fins would you recommend in small waves with the Am1 blacksticks? Thanks for you reviews
MicheleTCK Something upright in the Quad Rears.
Hi Noel, what’s your thoughts on pulling the width of the PJHP in a little to help it go rail to rail a bit quicker? Not to take away the speed that the width will give but just enough to give it a bit more quickness rail to rail...
Matthew Jones I think that could go good... this board feels quick rail to rail as a Quad but I know what your thinking. All I can say is try it... sometimes a small change like that could make it magic or just so so. My suggestion would be don’t go too narrow... you will need that surface area for lift and speed and it also makes a Short Board like this a bit more stable. Cheers...
Hey Noel I was wondering how much more float the c4 construction has over the PU
For example a 5’4 puddle jumper hp c4 construction 27.5 Liters is more like 28.5 liters cuz it floats more right ?
Antonio Principe I say it’s more like 28 liters... only 1/2 liter more float
What do you recommend between the Puddle Jumper HP and RNF 96’? I know that you loved them both, and they seem to overlap when it comes to wave size. I’m trying to make a decision between the two or potentially the rocket redux.
I like the 96 better
Hi Noel
Im an older surfer coming off a longboard, i want float, im 5ft8 x190, and a daily driver,
I want float and paddling ease, but the back half pretty high performance to be able to progress, under overhead and mostly medium type wave like Huntington and trestles
What is your suggestions
Thank you very much
Mark
Check out the Seaside and Chilli BV2 “Black Vulture 2”
Nice review! How does the PJHP compare to the Pod Mod?
Rod Ezcurra They surf very similar... both very fast and go good in the pocket. When I watch both reviews I think the PJHPout performs the PM in the pocket.
Rod Ezcurra The CI Rocket Wide is mental too. That review drops June 1st. I say watch that review and then pull the trigger on one of these two sick new small wave boards.
Surf n Show Reviews will wait then. Thanks!
Surf n Show Reviews Does one paddle better than the other?
Rod Ezcurra They both paddle good... very similar.
Hi Noel! Epic review!!!!. Quick question: this board is comparable with the firewire SPITFIRE???. Do you had the opportunity to try one?. Which you prefer is you so?. thanks!!!!
Javier Hernando Rodriguez Ihave not tried the Spitfire... sorry. Firewire had been pretty selective of the boards they give us to review. Hopefully we will have more of an opinion on their boards soon as they open their models up to us. Sorry
Hi Noel, thoughts on the PJHP as a Twin with a trailer? Thanks, incredible reviews.
It could go great with a Twin + Trailer... give it a go
Could this not be surfed in big waves like a step up?
Not really.. the tail is pretty wide
I know you said it's for 1 to 3 foot but what's the biggest surf you can push this board in? 5 or 6 foot maybe?
NOT SURE, lost puddle jumper hp or a ci ultra joe?
I like them both a lot but I would go UJ. A little more pulled in tail for tighter turns in the pocket.
Hey Noel, What would you prefer for Socal waves Puddle Jumper HP or Baby Buggy? Both got your 2018 favorite so I wanted to ask what you thought, and if you have any pointers on differences, etc thank you!
Wavy Days PJHP is faster and more agile in the pocket compared to the BB due to it being shorter but if I had to choose one I would go BB. If want it as a Groveler for 1-2’ surf then go PJHP.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you very much for the quick response! Was going to ask if you had to choose just one for all conditions, BB it is! Thanks again.
Hello Noel, don't buy it as a thruster cause it bogs?
Geoff Felsing I wouldn’t say it bogs because it wasn’t sticky... the wide tail wants to keep the board flat through turns. The Upright Quad set keeps the board on rail as long as you want. If you choose to ride it as a Thruster then I HIGHLY recommend you do that with a pivot set like the Futures Legacy P8 or FCSII Reactors
@@surfnshowreviews7777 awesome thank you for the reply.
Hi Noel! Big fan of your videos and surfing. How come you’re not using the Trace anymore?
j k Stoked you like our show!!! They got a little to busy to help me gather the data I was looking for on some projects we were working on together so we moved on. It’s all good..., the Trace unit is pretty sick though.
awesome review! would you size this as the same volume as your regular short board? or would you recommend more volume bc its meant to be ridden in smaller waves?
flyingfish3210 I recommend a little more compared to your HPSB but not too much. If your an advanced surfer The I would stay roughly the same as your HPSB so the board does not feel top heavy in and out of turns.
thanks noel - i look forward to your reviews every friday!
flyingfish3210 We are trying to drop one every Friday through Summer if waves and weather permit. Cheers
Hi Noel, love your reviews. I’m torn between, the puddle jumper, puddle jumper hp and the hydra, I surf a cymatic when it’s 2foot plus so looking for a groveler for 2 foot and below surf. I live in Sydney, so get ok beach breaks here. What do you recommend between the three for these conditions? Also, my cymatic is 31 litres and feels great, should I keep the litres the same or add another litre as it’s a groveller. Thanks in advance!
Hydra is fast but very little rocker so it will struggle in a hollow 2’ pocket if you want to surf vertical. I say PJHP... will offer you the most performance surfing but the Hydra will Grovel the best.... if your Cymatic feels good you can stay sane liters or go up 1L. That’s up to you
Thank you, really appreciate you taking the time to respond! So it comes down to fun or performance, likely more fun and speed on the hydra but more performance on PJHP. We often get hollow dumpy waves here in Sydney so I’m leaning towards the PJHP.
@@patrickfingleton4750 I agree... PJHP sound solid to me
So a quad would be better for this board what about the FCS2 fin AL MERRICK PC AIRCORE thruster?
Johnson Hwong I suggest a Pivot template... the tail is pretty wide and this board wants to go flat through carves.... a pivot template will help keep the board on rail through the entire turn. I don’t recommend the Al Merrick fins for this board.... too much rake.
I think I’m gonna get the FCS II Matt Biolos Performance Core quad and sell of the am fins thank you for reply and keep up the review I love watching them❤️
Surf n Show Reviews would a 2+1 fin work on this board just curious? Like the MR fins or the Macaodo twin+1?
Johnson Hwong Yes
Puddle Jumper HP or Puddle Jumper RP? Similar vols for same lengths. Any thoughts?
G’day Noel I bought this one a while back what’s your opinion on the Matt Biolas quads
Gary Clutton I only have those fins in PCC FCSII and they are a bit stiff for me. Waves need to 4’ and bigger for them to feel good
Surf n Show Reviews thanks . I’m 5.10 and 95kg any recommendations for the quad set up ?
Gary Clutton FCSII Large Reactors PCC with Reactor Medium Quad Rears.
That’s what I was thinking Noel.....I’m tied between the Uber Driver and the PJHP....I want to keep the extra speed and glide of the PJHP but have it go rail to rail easily. My local spot has a flat take off that hollows up inside so flat fishy entry rocker works.....
Matthew Jones I would go PJHP for sure...
I m ordering the pjhp in cw ! Futures! Fin wise have you tried flat inside fins or only v foil. I have the blackstix in thruster on my neckbeard but even thou it s faster i feel like they stick too much on the wave and release later than my am2 for example. Those hayden shapes quad set behave like that as well ?
Mathieu Revel That board goes best with an Upright fin. I never have issues with the V2 Foil feeling sticky.
Surf n Show Reviews ok cool! Have u tried the board with a 2+1 by any chance?
Mathieu Revel No I didn’t sorry.... maybe you can give it a try and let us all know how it goes. Cheers
Hay noel great review.looking for step up board.im surf the ci.wirrdo ripper.what is your recomrend from lost surfboards?im going castom.tnx
X -MAN X MAN A great step up for me is the Pyzel Ghost. I think the Sabotaj looks epic too!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 baby bugy?
Sir Noel, just wanna ask if that's future HS gen1 or gen2 or gen3 quad set-up? I wanna buy the specific futures HS Generation. for my weight n heigth 5'4" & 60kg I prefer size small fins
Hi Man. In thinking tô get the Phantom pyzel ir the list puddle jumoer Hp round tail. Whats do you think about the 2? Thanksss
Carlos Lukather Phantom is a Daily Driver... best in 3-7’ surf. The PJHP is a Groveler and best in 1-3’ surf. Both are epic... choose the one that best suits the wave range you are buying this board for.
Love your videos! Almost every board looks great under your feet! I try to find a board to learn some maneuvers. I'm 5'5, 154lbs, sportive, can do bottom turns and go down the line. I have a catch surf rnf 5'11 and a fun shape 6'0 x 20 x 2 1/2 @31.6l. Looking for somethin more easy to turn and deciding betweem puddle jumper, puddle jumper hp and pyzel phantom. What board and especially size would you recommend for less than average waves to learn turns?
Cheers from Switzerland
Phantom and PJHP are great boards
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Agree! as you rode both of them, which one is more userfriendly: pjhp or phantom?
@@schtisoo Phantom
@@surfnshowreviews7777 may I ask what you think between the phantom and the lost/MR california twin? You rock on both boards!
@@schtisoo CA Twin is a small wave Groveler type board. Best in 1-4’ surf. Phantom is a daily driver best in 3-7’ surf…. It’s not a Groveler at all
Any review or feedback for pjhp in libtech construction for 1to4ft waves?
Thank you😊
No Libtech reviews in the pipeline at this time sorry. They are not offering to send boards for review.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for your review i just got the pjhp 😊🤙🏽
Hey great review , thank you so much !!
I was wondering if you could help me decide. I currently ride an All merrick sampler 29,7 L in 5'9 in french west coast waves, all seasons exept in cold winter days (mid novembre - march)
I sometimes get on top of the waves trouble getting that paddle speed and was looking at the puddle jumper hp or the El TOMO fish.
Intermediate surfer , 180cm tall and about 75kg.
Im looking at the 5'8 for both boards (33L for the PJHP and 31,9L for the TOMO)...
Wich board and what size would you recommend?
Leo Leger When the water is cold you wear warmer suits and that can add more weight. I would say wearing a 4/3 mm wetsuit with boots and gloves adds roughly 10-12 pounds. With that being said going up on Liters for colder months is ideal. I would say a good liter range for you is 31-33. The PJHP will paddle better and go good in smaller weaker surf.... it’s ideal in 1-4’ surf. The El Tomo Fish is best in 3-6’ surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 ok thnaks for the response !! I'll probably go for the pjhp !!
Hi Noel, thanks for the review ! What would be the equivalent quad fins in libtech fins sustem or fcs I? I’m riding with KS2.1 thruster and not feeling fast at all. Thank you !!
Get the KS2.1 Quad Rears and that should get the speed up a bit.
What about using the new machado keel truster???
Try it
How does the puddle jumper do with thruster set up?
I did a review on the PJHP... watch that.
DHD 3DV in line?
Nathan Eastaugh I just got it... it’s in the line up for review now. Hang tight...
Living in SoCal, we occasionally get some 6 footers rolling through. Would this board handle waves in the 5-6 foot range?
Eddie Dingle It’s not ideal for waves in the 5-6’ range. The range on this PJHP is 1-3’ maybe 4’ max to maximize performance.
Noel u give great reviews! Can I use my the front thruster reactors with accelerator rear quads? The board is Pukas El locco
KOSTAS GOULAS I think it’s worth a try.
Which one ultra Joel vs c4 lost for intermedia???
Both boards are epic and you will be stoked with both. I prefer the UJ in Spinetek. More performance in the pocket
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks
Does anyone have any experience comparing this to the Placebo quad from a few years back?
Hey Noel, I have the 5'5" PJHP and looking to try it as a quad. Normally riding AM large fins in Futures but this board is FCS2. I'm 165lbs...would you recommend the large rears with the large AM or jump down to medium for all fins?! Thanks
Christian69James I would try that board with a more upright side fins in Large and a Upright Medium Quad Rears like the Reactors. You should try it with fins that you have first and then try what I recommend. I like to use Large Side fins and Medium Quad Rears.
Thanks Noel...been riding this board on the smaller 1-3 ft days in HB with the AM (PC) large fronts and Reactor medium rears with success but still feels a bit sticky at times. I don't have a lot of options with upright fins so trying the AM (PC) mediums up front on the next run. Too bad it's not Futures because I already have the HS1 and I could just throw in the medium rears. Definitely liking it as a quad though so thanks for the review..!! Cheers.
Christian69James Using upright fins on this board will stop it from being sticky. The Reactors or Haydenshapes go sick in that board.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I might have to break down and buy some haha...thanks Noel.
Christian69James Try to rent some... Fin Fanatics or used surf in San Clemente.