An Impressive Bluewater Sailboat For Sale! The Southern Cross 39 - A Potential Deal at $48,000!
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2023
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This is an impressive bluewater sailboat that is currently for sale for $48,000. Canadian Ken and I had to go check her out - she is about an hour away up in Winterport, ME, along the Penobscot River, an hour's sail to the open bay. She's hull #1 of the venerable Southern Cross 39 sailboats, designed by Thomas Gillmer (designer of the Allied Seawind Ketch, the 1st fiberglass sailboat to circumnavigate the globe!), and built by C.E. Ryder down in Rhode Island in 1981. She was factory finished, which is nice as many of these were sold as kits. She also has an Airex cored hull, a relatively new method at the time, perfected by C.E Ryder (it's closed cell Airex), deemed to be very strong and durable. The decks are balsa cored.
This Southern Cross 39 is not perfect. She needs some work, but it appears to be mostly cosmetic and the pricing reflects this. These boats usually sell for much, much more - at least double this asking price. So, if you're a DIY sailor looking for a boat that needs a little TLC - but could probably take you around the world as is - this boat might be for you! She is stored indoors and is broker represented by John Wilkinson. He can be reached at:
Phone: 207-702-9266 or 207-702-1065
Email: penbaymarineservices@gmail.com
yachtexchange@outlook.com
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Wow, I have hull number 3. also for sale on the hard in Indonesia. So different from mine. Odd doesn't seem to have had many upgrades. Interesting it was never Blue Water cruised. They are a great all weather cruiser and not at all heavy displacement. The sail great in light winds, handle serious weather like few others. Definitely far more quality than your standard Coastal Cruiser. 30,000 miles of cruising tells the real story....
Very cool! Yes, from what we could tell, she looks pretty original and has spent most of her life in Maine waters, with the exception of her time down in Long Island Sound. I hope yours finds a new home, too! They are very cool boats. Thanks for watching!
I like it. Reminds me of a Pacific Seacraft 40. Similar capabilities and similar hybrid fin keel ,full keel skeg hung rudder thingy. Also a 39 ft its a lot of boat. If you can get her in the thirties somewhere, and she doesnt need too much, great deal. I would do what most of us do, sail her and restore as you go. Thanks for checking these boats out for us.
Agreed! Thanks for your comment and for watching!
Nice boat. However, 48k is an insane amount to pay for that particular boat in its current condition.
Just remember that is the asking price and the broker stated they are open to all reasonable offers. A buyer’s market…
True.
Yeah, $50K is laughable. Not a single item on the boat has been repaired, replaced, maintained or upgraded in decades. I bet the engine is totally shot too.
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP I see easily $80,000 to $100,000 in repair and upgrades.
@@otissmith7057 You could sink $100K into this boat and hardly notice a difference. It literally needs a new everything. Southern Cross is a great boat, but this one has been neglected and needs major refit. Its a $20K boat.
You take hull #1, I'll take Hull #10 when they worked out the production kinks but before they got complacent or started cutting any corners
My grammie lived in Winterport for many years. Beautiful area! I spent many weeks of the summer visiting.
It's a pretty area, fir sure!
Coolest thing was that Captain Q reference!
While that hurts a bit, the man is a legend and was kind of enough to give me some insight into the boat we ended up buying. Additionally, spent years racing against him and his PB, Avatar. The man is aces!
Nice boat. I dig that classic old CSNY sailing song. (Probably the only millennial watching this who gets the reference)
Thank you for picking up on that!!!
Very neat old boat. As my wife and I are approaching retirement, we are looking more and more at boats of this size. I would say that she most likely would need all new rigging, and a motor and trans overhaul, and very possibly new sails, maybe not right away. With an electronics upgrade, refrigeration, and dodger and bimini, I guess that would be another 50k with doing some labor myself. Engine access looks tight for me as well. I hope she gets an owner who will restore her, she is definitely a worthy candidate. I think I would lean towards a newer boat , maybe in the 150k range, when the time comes for us. Thanks for doing the video.
She's definitely a candidate for someone with DIY capabilities and interests. Engine is fine, sails are lightly used (summers only), has a dodger, would benefit from a bimini, and could use some updating as you say. Not for the faint of heart but, as you say, I hope someone out there is up to the task to get her out sailing again! Thanks for watching!
This is a charming boat, a solid boat. For coastal cruising in New England, great. Its dream would be to get adopted by a young DIY couple with cruising dreams who will bring it up to speed. It's likely that the engine might be fine with a little TLC. However, water ingress repairs, painting, more substantial dodger, radar and electronics package, refrigeration, standing rigging, solar, arch... To prep this for world cruising will require time and probably 60 to 100k. Completely done up, given the age, one might be able to get 110 for it. Conclusion--it's overpriced, unless buyers intend only to use it locally, seasonally. For kids looks for a cruising boat who are told, "Well, that's what these boats go for," just walk away. The tanks in the keel--nice for stability, but does the shower sump go to the bilge? What's happening under those tanks? Was the boat funky? Also, hull coring--any delamination?Thank you for posting. enjoyed the tour.
Thanks for your comments! Remember, it's a buyer's market - no one will pay full asking for this boat or any used boat (or at least they shouldn't!). Yes - ideal for coastal cruising but with the potential for more. Don't quote me on the shower, but I believe it has its own bilge & pump. Boat was definitely not funky - no odors, which is weird because most older boats do have a distinct smell. It was also very cold so that may have helped! Hopefully under those water tanks is a nice hunk of lead... :) IMO, this boat should sell in the low 30s. But that's just my opinion. The hull: It seemed great. No evidence of delamination - the topsides were as smooth as could be. No blistering, nada. Airex cored, when done well, works - especially if the thru-hulls were done at the factory - and this was factory finished (exclusive of any modifications that maybe happened later). But there was nothing overt or obvious happening. The decks are balsa cored like 99% of all boats of this vintage. Definitely would want a survey and a moisture meter. Frankly, since she's indoors, if the yard allowed it, one could get crackin' on this boat by late Feb and be ready to go come summer. Get out there, use it, shake it down, and see what's what. And, agreed, a young DIY couple would be ideal. That counts me out!
Engine is over 30 years old and tired. Even low miles its just going to have endless issues. Hope you got a spare $75K laying around for that...
Boat is lovely, price is silly. GREAT VIDEO, THANKS!
Remember - it's just an asking price...and it's a buyer's market.
This boat might not be worth it for free. How much money do you need to refit it and what could you ultimately get for that kind of money that you could sail on tomorrow?
Glad to see you are, at least occasionally, looking at boats over $25,000. I think it will broaden your brand. Yes, I get the CSN reference, love when you open your videos with Southern Cross, but love your new music done by your niece, did you say? Also loved the Captain Q reference! Lots of comments on this one, even though the boat was not in very good shape - a good sign for the growth of your channel which is see is expanding. Keep pushing!
Thank you, sir! Yes, looking for fun/different boats to profile, for sale or otherwise. So many cool boats out there.
It’s my sister-in-law who sings the other opener. It will be back at 4pm today on this week’s countdown. Thanks for watching for your continued support!
And Captain Q: legend!
US Navy Shellback here. I have seen the original Southern Cross...
Jealous!
Great story though. Hull #1 will turn some heads. 5.3 draft would love Florida. Cutter! Love it though.
Yep, cutter. Sweet boat in need of love and she will go for years. Thanks for watching!
But on the midnight watch I realized why twice you ran away?
You got it!
Crosby Stills Nash and Young. You’re funny.
I’m trying…
@@boatfools you’re crushing it. Love your content. One of my favorite sailing channels.
@@bos6782 thank you!
Excellent!
I liked the layout of the boat ... pilot berth in particular ... but the engine access looked dreadful!!! Calling it a diamond in the rough appears to be a optimistic assessment -- from what i saw there was half a summer of work needed just on the topside (both port and starboard lazarettes (rotted / damaged) , propane locker door (rot visible), anchor locker (heavy clean & new longer chain), topside (clean, repair (crazing), and paint), port-light and hatchway replacements / re-bedding, bright work, swapping out the winches (for self-tailing). Then below ... repairs around the port-lights, sole refinish, cold plate addition, head repair / refurbish, instrumentation / communication upgrades (looked very dated), electrical upgrades as well -- no sign of battery banks. A Blue Water boat needs certain amenities to go "blue water sailing", which will cost $ to add. You would really need to get this boat at a bargain price to offset the costs for the repairs and upgrades -- even more if you soda blast and repaint barrier coat!!
Agreed but a number of the items you listed are not on the a A-list of things to do. The primary winches are self-tailing, the sole floors are fine, ports/hatches all fine. A good scrub and she would look a lot better. But, there is a lot to be done, but a lot that could be done over time.
True, some of the things could be done over time, but if it were to be used as designed ... as a blue water boat ... i think all of these things would need to be addressed before taking any major journey. Nice boat by design, but not one that i would be willing to sink the cash into -- I've like many of the others that you have highlighted much more!!! Keep up the great work!!!@@boatfools
I am the same thoughts on boat repair cost. Engine compartment is ridiculous. V drive. Sounds like replace/repair parts ??? $ 10- 12thou and another 12 -15 repair. Pedigree does not mean didly on a lot of replace and repair /old boat.
Main sail is 2006 and the head sail is 2011 and he says they are relatively new? It is 2024! So you need new sails.
Hard knowing if she needs new sails. If they’ve been lightly used during summers only in Maine, they could last another few years at least. Again, didn’t see them so I can’t say. Made by a very reputable local sailmaker.
@@boatfools Hey, you are incredible. I know nothing about this but age. I wish I had your experience.
$48,000 for a 1981 boat that needs a lot of work? I hate to be a Debbie-downer but you can buy 2000's that need some work and you have a 20 year newer boat. There is a number but I am thinking half of that. Used saiboats of that age would need all new standing rigging, engine rebuild. The list would go on, you would need another $20,000 plus a lot of time to do it yourself.
You’re not being a downer. That’s just the asking price. You’ll note at near the end when I am speaking with the broker, we mention all reasonable offers. Also, like I said, these SC39s in good condition fetch a lot more than $48,000, despite their age. But, yes, one must go in with eyes wide open. Thanks for chiming in!
When looking at the hull I saw two old through-holes, glanced as you went by, that it looked like they were plugged because I thought I saw the same homogeneous blue paint going over them. Only glanced though. Didn't get a good look. Would have been good to.
Thanks fellow fools
ps. What would it cost to get a boat like that sailed to Australia?
Do you know at approximately what min? I’ll take a look.
Australia? I don’t know but I would love to help get her there!
@@boatfools I'm looking to upgrade to between 30'-40'. My minimum price would be around the $30k mark (all up). Bigger market thus better prices in the US rather than Australia, so I'm entertaining the thought of buying abroad. Don't have a clue about the transportation costs though.
Thanks for your show. It keeps that dream right there in the pre-frontal cortex. Michael Barrett
@basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 You'd probably be better off renting space in a US boatyard, doing the work yourself to get a boat seaworthy enough for the passage, then sailing it back home than trying to find some way to get it transported across a continent and an ocean.
@@SavingMaverick55 Agreed, probably. Though work discounts the hypothesis.
I'm outta luck for a jaunt to NE USA. No matter how much I like the Kirrouac lifestyle.
Do you have a moisture meter for the deck?
No, we did not. We’re not surveyors. She is balsa cored so, naturally, that is a concern. Didn’t “feel” any soft spots but we were wearing boots on account of the cold so probably not the best footwear for detecting anything! Given her age, I reckon there is a good chance there might be some moisture, but a survey would certainly determine this.
@@boatfools Yes. Thanks.
"Fortitude" wow you can't get any more yankee than that. Really someone's dream boat. I like the airex core and encapsulated hull. Bomb proof.
48k it’s a great boat but this one is in terrible shape would need another 20k and 1000s hours of work
Again, that is the asking price…it’s an OBRO. One might get it for $20k-plus!
What is significantly less? 30-38?
In this market, my rule of thumb is if your proposed offer makes you feel uncomfortable, then it’s the right offer. So, for example, if offering $25k makes you uncomfortable (for fear of offending the seller), that’s what I would offer! You never know!
maybe 16k as it would take months and and 20 K to bring back to Bristol condition.
is that CND dollers
Mmmm.. As a Marine Engineer.. I would want to replace that engine!..
Therefore I think that the asking price is way to high.
Plus the rot and leaks in various places...
I would improve engine access, but I bet that Westerbeke is fine! The price just dropped on this boat. Hopefully someone will jump in, fix her up, and get her sailing again.