The safety factor on lifting straps is impressive, and when they do break it's a lot safer than having a chain or cable let go. I've seen chain links almost completely straighten and fly over 100 metres, and that was just with an old 935 Versatile pulling trees, God only knows what two D11's would do to a chain :P
We had a cable go when we were pulling our brand new 8RX 410 which had bogged down on the disc, the bang was astounding! So was the damage to the back of the Axion 960. The guy who owns the farm (he is an investment banker in London) asked if we needed a new Axion! We told him No just a rear window, a tail light an led work light and a clean pair of pants for me. Closest I’ve been to a very serious accident for sure, and I rolled a tractor on to its side once.
I'm a retired HDR/W cat mechanic, although I was not restricted to that. I'm 75, Very much enjoyed yourVideo, One of your fellow countrymen bought a 666 Tractor scraper complete some many years ago. based on what I could see of it after the fact, it looked good. Back in the day, That machine was our / my bread and butter, beans on the table so to speak. For a time we just about owned all of them putting them to work on a major dirt project in CA. After that most were auctioned off, or parted out......... any more today unseen. When I was a young man I wanted to live in Australia, But CA. was where the money was at the time. I was all about the back your country, moving dirt, loved it, yellow Iron, ........... and I love seeing those long train trucks. I seen you have some excellent machinist there; very impressive work. I catch a video or two from time to time of the work he has done. The Load Be with You.
I've never seen a sling fail that way. Once a strand or two broke, it was wild to see how the rest took off. Nice science experiment, Matt and your Mastermind assistant. 🙂
It would be interesting to see what would break first on a receiver hitch. The pin that holds the hitch in, or the ball. Two D11s would be ideal to test that out.
You can get those heavy duty solid inserts. In the standard 2" and for the newer trucks with the bigger factory hitches that are 2 1/2" and 3" i think those take up to a 20k ball
Got my f150 stuck in the mud to the front Axle, used the ball mounted to the hitch and definitely broke the 2 inch ball, but nothing was done to the hitch 😂
just love the comment . got me right out of left field.good on ya. youtube or "somebody needs to have a comment awards . some of them are just so funny and clever ,like this one .
In slow video playback mode, it can be seen that the belts were broken at the point of contact with the metal canine. That is, the straps simply cut themselves on the harder material of the canine. If you make a semicircular spacer from wood, it is possible that three belts would withstand the traction force. In any case, it can be seen that the straps are very strong.
I was a recovery specialist and a mechanic in the United States army, I drove a Hemet wrecker... What you guys are doing here is very intelligent being able to break test your gear like this. We do a lot of farming here in Arkansas with some friends, it would be really cool to get down to an Australian farm and see how you guys do it too. Mainly corn soybeans rice and cotton here.
Well done Mat and thanks for filming that test. Been earthmoving longer than I want to admit and being old school always use chains, but since watching your videos I have been thinking about slings to do recovering then you uploaded this video. It’s a no brainer now and a lot safer as well and no stretching chains.
Looking back I realized just how lucky I have been, we always used chains, and yes seen what can happen, these straps are impressive. I like the grousers extension worked👌🇭🇲😎
I saw a few of those 140 ton straps break in my day at mines. Saw even bigger straps break too. First time was when a haul truck got bogged in mud and two other loaded trucks were pulling on it. Next time was when a P&H 4100 electric shovel sank about 7 feet in muddy ground. We had 2 D11’s and 6 loaded haul trucks pulling on it. Took 3 days plus a lot of digging and pulling to get that shovel out.
The elderly gentleman to me looked to have a wealth of knowledge and also a humble man with a wealth of character. Sadly these fine Australians are dying out, never to return.
I see in some of the US farming videos they have a huge snatch rope with a knot system on the end .... never seen one of those break. We use these straps when lifting our engines around the workshop with a crane and cradle think out heavest is 13 tons , that a Q78 2 Stage Cummins ....
Hi mate, yep I have heard of them they are called yamkum ropes, as far as I can tell the biggest they do is 2.5in which has a breaking strain of 95ton which we would be able to break👍 I would love to try them though😁
I do structural steel assembly, sometimes we use a sling like those when the crane boom is picking up enough static electricity from the air to shock us guys doing assembly.the sling in the hook serves as a insulator .and handles the load well ,very versatile rigging indeed Load softeners are a must in most situations.the only fault of a sling is the do cut easier than steel
In the U.K. most equipment is rated at around 2/3 rds of the actual breaking point. A strap rated for say 6 ton will actually fail at around 9 ton ,a forklift rated at 6 ton will lift 9 ton etc etc. This allows for operator error.
Impressive it gave a safety factor close to 10. Important to note the date of manufacture because they will get weaker with age. Lots of factors play into their safety factor. The fiberglass strands weaken with different elements such as being wet, temperature and age. Would be nice to see a follow up video in one year using the same amount of slings after being exposed to getting wet and a year of temperature exposure and normal use. I would imagine the safety factor drops down to about 6 with those same slings. Great test, thanks for sharing.
They don’t last long enough to deteriorate haha we break them daily regularly at the moment haha but it would be good to see👍 I need a massive scale to measure it exactly😁
They are nylon and it is only one strand inside the cover . Plenty of testing done on chemicals and uv with the rope access community . Rope test lab often tests to destruction
Someone may have already mentioned that the remaining 3 straps had already been stretched, especially when down to 4. So 3 new straps might well have held. Pretty good value product, though, when you compare to what we 4WD people have to pay for a similar length strap :) Definitely there is a 4WD tax, haha.
That was very interesting and jolly good fun! Just looking at them, you'd never think they'd pull the amount of weight they do especially when they're so light.
Interesting to watch. Thank you. I see those gold prospectors in Alaska on the Discoverie Canal fiddling with chains up to 10 tons. Dangerous but makes it exciting. Greetings from the Netherlands.
You guys are about the straps while I'm: «duuuude ! people can own these D11s !? look how massive it is ! The engine is barely making any noise and it pulls 120 tons !»
just so you know, by australian standards, lifting slings have a safety factor of 8 .. so a 1 ton soft sling (purple in colour) will snap at about 8 ton .. so a 3 ton sling (your yellow ones) is about 24 ton .. that means you probally had about 70 ton on them 3 slings to snap them like that .. not bad for something thats only meant to be lifting 9 ton vertically
Is it just a co-incidence that the yellow cover breaks first? As well as offering some protection to the strap, does it also work as a visual safety device? I seem to remember going on a crane operator/slinger course at work. Though that concentrated on using the correct sling in the correct manner and not going over the Safe Working Load of the sling in the first place.
Hi mate, very good question, we wondered the exact same thing as all the straps we have broken the sleeve has broken first. Makes sense because it gives you a decent warning👍
Also worth noting the yellow cover (which doesn't do the work, it's the core that does( lets go first, to indicate that a major failure is close to happening
just wondering why the dozer was still in reverse gear while getting straps from the ripper? normally operator takes out of gear if someone is so close to machine, even operator out of cab.
Hi from the USA, thank you for the video. If you had a D11 buried in the mud, how many more straps do you think it would need to pull it out? Factoring in the added stress.
It’s videos like this that have more to think about than most others. I can understand why places put a lower working limit on chains, cables, and straps to cover their butts the best they can.
Have you ever tested a big Yankum rope? they make them small and big but work like a rubber band to build up energy to help on recovery where lifting straps are designed not to stretch. They make one that's made to pull 201,000 pounds.
Tiny 1 put your back! in to it or you'll be turned into spam cans, hahaha. Testing slings with D11's, it doesn't get better than that, awesome "work" gents.
Obviously the D115 had much better traction because the tracks had far less wear. Cant say it was stronger because the other one spun the tracks, so it came down to traction.
Gentlemen: you are Using the Wrong Product for Pulling (you need a Matt's Recovery Rope for Pulling) Use a Strap for Lifting ... You don't need a Dozer (work Smarter not Harder) The energy is in the kinetic rope, no need to spend money on heavy equipment … just pull And watch the rope do the work .... 💕🇨🇦💕
Hi mate, you are correct however the strongest Kenetic rope/straps are rated at about 100t and we have broken our fair share of them so we look at alternatives, when a D11 gets really stuck the only thing to pull it out with is the other d11😁 the big lifting straps (20t rated, 140t braking strain) are stronger and 3x cheaper👍
For a centennial celebration the people of taiwan engaged in a massive 200+ person each side tug of war. The rope broke with such force it ripped the arms OFF the first two people on each side.
As a human being and a Canadian.. I work in the oilfield using straps all the time and rely on them for my life.. I dont care if there a schill or $10grand specialty, they should all be perfect. Nobody likes lugging around 2.5-3.5 inches (roughly 64-90mm) braided cable especially 60-80 foot lengths+ dragging them around a shop floor and lifting vessels but we do because we know it wont fail. have tons of these soft ropes but when lifting is key and no bounce .. I know what im choosing.
Are the straps 3 ton single pull? It would seem that if they were looped like you had them they would be 6 ton each times 3 straps then totaling 18 ton.
@@thejacksonbrothers Cool, those machines are awesome in action. We save a lot of hours using the Kivi Pekka in the autumn, so the field is free from large rocks in the spring when we seed the barley. The fight against rocks that constantly comes up from the ground is a never ending battle, so such machinery has really revolutionised farming in my country.
Hi mate, it says on the packet it has a safety factor of 1/7 which means minimum breaking strain has to be more then 7 times what it’s rated so 3000 x 7 = 21000kgs😀👍
The safety factor on lifting straps is impressive, and when they do break it's a lot safer than having a chain or cable let go. I've seen chain links almost completely straighten and fly over 100 metres, and that was just with an old 935 Versatile pulling trees, God only knows what two D11's would do to a chain :P
We find the slings are so much easier to use and often use them instead of d shackles because they don’t go flying if something happens👍😁
Once the got a small tear tough they shud be changed.. specially for LIFT jobs
100 meters is scary. Thank you
We had a cable go when we were pulling our brand new 8RX 410 which had bogged down on the disc, the bang was astounding! So was the damage to the back of the Axion 960.
The guy who owns the farm (he is an investment banker in London) asked if we needed a new Axion!
We told him No just a rear window, a tail light an led work light and a clean pair of pants for me.
Closest I’ve been to a very serious accident for sure, and I rolled a tractor on to its side once.
I would bet that D11 could pull a 935 in half
I'm a retired HDR/W cat mechanic, although I was not restricted to that. I'm 75,
Very much enjoyed yourVideo,
One of your fellow countrymen bought a 666 Tractor scraper complete some many years ago. based on what I could see of it after the fact, it looked good.
Back in the day, That machine was our / my bread and butter, beans on the table so to speak. For a time we just about owned all of them putting them to work on a major dirt project in CA. After that most were auctioned off, or parted out......... any more today
unseen.
When I was a young man I wanted to live in Australia, But CA. was where the money was at the time. I was all about the back your country,
moving dirt, loved it, yellow Iron, ........... and I love seeing those long train trucks.
I seen you have some excellent machinist there; very impressive work. I catch a video
or two from time to time of the work he has done.
The Load Be with You.
I’m from America and this video makes me love Australia more than I already did! Badass mate!
I've never seen a sling fail that way. Once a strand or two broke, it was wild to see how the rest took off. Nice science experiment, Matt and your Mastermind assistant. 🙂
It would be interesting to see what would break first on a receiver hitch. The pin that holds the hitch in, or the ball. Two D11s would be ideal to test that out.
Funny you should say that, been thinking that myself😂
I've pulled the hitch apart. The right angle welded to the tongue separated.
You can get those heavy duty solid inserts. In the standard 2" and for the newer trucks with the bigger factory hitches that are 2 1/2" and 3" i think those take up to a 20k ball
Easier to test it with something not based on traction, like hydraulics
Got my f150 stuck in the mud to the front Axle, used the ball mounted to the hitch and definitely broke the 2 inch ball, but nothing was done to the hitch 😂
Last time I've seen that much tension it was thnaksgiving with the family.
😂😂
just love the comment . got me right out of left field.good on ya. youtube or "somebody needs to have a comment awards . some of them are just so funny and clever ,like this one .
I use those straps quite regularly and it's great to see how much they can handle. Very reassuring to know in case i make an error one day
That’s what we are here for😂😂👍
Glad you gave some shout out to the wood. It always amazes me how strong wood is. It can hold up very heavy loads.
In slow video playback mode, it can be seen that the belts were broken at the point of contact with the metal canine. That is, the straps simply cut themselves on the harder material of the canine. If you make a semicircular spacer from wood, it is possible that three belts would withstand the traction force.
In any case, it can be seen that the straps are very strong.
I was a recovery specialist and a mechanic in the United States army, I drove a Hemet wrecker... What you guys are doing here is very intelligent being able to break test your gear like this. We do a lot of farming here in Arkansas with some friends, it would be really cool to get down to an Australian farm and see how you guys do it too. Mainly corn soybeans rice and cotton here.
So far behind the times in Australia they don't know much here
Well done Mat and thanks for filming that test. Been earthmoving longer than I want to admit and being old school always use chains, but since watching your videos I have been thinking about slings to do recovering then you uploaded this video. It’s a no brainer now and a lot safer as well and no stretching chains.
Pretty impressive the amount of strength those straps have. As you mentioned, the weight compared to a chain.
We used to use 2 0r 3 ton slings to stand 1.2 ton power poles, amazing vid thanks team Jackson.
Not often you get to play with d11s outside of a mine. Love the video, would love to see them with wire rope.
Looking back I realized just how lucky I have been, we always used chains, and yes seen what can happen, these straps are impressive.
I like the grousers extension worked👌🇭🇲😎
I saw a few of those 140 ton straps break in my day at mines. Saw even bigger straps break too. First time was when a haul truck got bogged in mud and two other loaded trucks were pulling on it. Next time was when a P&H 4100 electric shovel sank about 7 feet in muddy ground. We had 2 D11’s and 6 loaded haul trucks pulling on it. Took 3 days plus a lot of digging and pulling to get that shovel out.
That would be something to see!
The elderly gentleman to me looked to have a wealth of knowledge and also a humble man with a wealth of character. Sadly these fine Australians are dying out, never to return.
No, there’s still a few being made !
Boy do I love the sound of two D11's spooling up. Great vid!
I see in some of the US farming videos they have a huge snatch rope with a knot system on the end .... never seen one of those break. We use these straps when lifting our engines around the workshop with a crane and cradle think out heavest is 13 tons , that a Q78 2 Stage Cummins ....
Hi mate, yep I have heard of them they are called yamkum ropes, as far as I can tell the biggest they do is 2.5in which has a breaking strain of 95ton which we would be able to break👍 I would love to try them though😁
I do structural steel assembly, sometimes we use a sling like those when the crane boom is picking up enough static electricity from the air to shock us guys doing assembly.the sling in the hook serves as a insulator .and handles the load well ,very versatile rigging indeed
Load softeners are a must in most situations.the only fault of a sling is the do cut easier than steel
In the U.K. most equipment is rated at around 2/3 rds of the actual breaking point.
A strap rated for say 6 ton will actually fail at around 9 ton ,a forklift rated at 6 ton will lift 9 ton etc etc.
This allows for operator error.
More of this, the power of the D11 is some thing else thank Matt cheers.
Excellent education Matt, Sunny lifting will be getting my order now for straps for the front end loader
Love seeing the D11s!
This is the quality content we need ! We should try this with our equipment
I am impressed that you have 2 D11's.
The two D11s are super impressive monsters Great video iv worked with machinery and love the smell of diesel all my life Take care guys from Ireland
I just build a huge D11 from technic Lego 😊 love your channel greetings from Holland 🙂
Impressive it gave a safety factor close to 10. Important to note the date of manufacture because they will get weaker with age. Lots of factors play into their safety factor. The fiberglass strands weaken with different elements such as being wet, temperature and age. Would be nice to see a follow up video in one year using the same amount of slings after being exposed to getting wet and a year of temperature exposure and normal use. I would imagine the safety factor drops down to about 6 with those same slings. Great test, thanks for sharing.
They don’t last long enough to deteriorate haha we break them daily regularly at the moment haha but it would be good to see👍 I need a massive scale to measure it exactly😁
They are nylon and it is only one strand inside the cover . Plenty of testing done on chemicals and uv with the rope access community . Rope test lab often tests to destruction
I love science. Awesome as always guys. Rock on!!!
WOWZERS! I thought for sure the 4 was going to snap. AWESOME experiment, in the name of science!
Someone may have already mentioned that the remaining 3 straps had already been stretched, especially when down to 4. So 3 new straps might well have held. Pretty good value product, though, when you compare to what we 4WD people have to pay for a similar length strap :) Definitely there is a 4WD tax, haha.
That was very interesting and jolly good fun!
Just looking at them, you'd never think they'd pull the amount of weight they do especially when they're so light.
Great video, thanks
Just another bloody good video Matt..keep em coming mate.. enjoyable.
Today’s Showtime with the Jackson Brothers. 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
Daddy buys two D11s to keep the boys from fighting.
Awwww...
A D11 just sounds so awesome under load, thanks for the video.
Interesting to watch. Thank you. I see those gold prospectors in Alaska on the Discoverie Canal fiddling with chains up to 10 tons. Dangerous but makes it exciting. Greetings from the Netherlands.
So much easier carrying a strap that only weighs a kg or so👍😂
Your backup signal sounds like every Amazon delivery truck we have here in the States
You guys are about the straps while I'm: «duuuude ! people can own these D11s !? look how massive it is ! The engine is barely making any noise and it pulls 120 tons !»
You guys are awesome, your channel is awesome!
Love the video I love watching those earthmovers mainly because I work on them everyday keep up the videos guys
nikt nie potrzebował ale każdy chciał zobaczyć, thanks
Greetings from Poland
Tiny 1 needs some fresh grousers
i’m here for the rain caps 😅 i love those things
Can you give a bit more info on the slings please?
I’d love to visit Australia seems like a beautiful place, it’s -24 c Here in Minnesota, USA tonight. Thanks for the videos!
Thanks Isaac! Currently about 15 c overnight here and max day temp is around 32 c but goes to 40 fairly regularly👍
just so you know, by australian standards, lifting slings have a safety factor of 8 .. so a 1 ton soft sling (purple in colour) will snap at about 8 ton .. so a 3 ton sling (your yellow ones) is about 24 ton .. that means you probally had about 70 ton on them 3 slings to snap them like that .. not bad for something thats only meant to be lifting 9 ton vertically
Great to see the mastermind making another appearance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is it just a co-incidence that the yellow cover breaks first? As well as offering some protection to the strap, does it also work as a visual safety device? I seem to remember going on a crane operator/slinger course at work. Though that concentrated on using the correct sling in the correct manner and not going over the Safe Working Load of the sling in the first place.
Hi mate, very good question, we wondered the exact same thing as all the straps we have broken the sleeve has broken first. Makes sense because it gives you a decent warning👍
Also worth noting the yellow cover (which doesn't do the work, it's the core that does( lets go first, to indicate that a major failure is close to happening
Great video Matt so interesting to see what the straps can pull have a great new Year
Thanks Simon, you too!
You guys ROCK ✌️, much appreciated ✌️❤️
just wondering why the dozer was still in reverse gear while getting straps from the ripper? normally operator takes out of gear if someone is so close to machine, even operator out of cab.
The green equipment behind the dozers under the test, is it a rock picker? Would be great to see that in action 😃 Never seen one working..
If you go back to previous videos, you’ll find it in action 🙂
Vlog 31😁👍
The wood used actually looks like it was heat burned to s certain degree. Job well done.
Does tiny1 have narrower tracks and or just worn grousers?
Great to know the capabilities cheers Team
Pretty amazing how strong them straps are
Very good, where do you get the straps?
They are just lifting slings from our local ag store in town, you can get them online easy👍😁
Hi from the USA, thank you for the video. If you had a D11 buried in the mud, how many more straps do you think it would need to pull it out? Factoring in the added stress.
They have a couple of videos of both D11's stuck while trying to get to a big tractor that was sunk.
@@mattsirmans9146 Thank you Matt, I found them.
It’s videos like this that have more to think about than most others. I can understand why places put a lower working limit on chains, cables, and straps to cover their butts the best they can.
Have you ever tested a big Yankum rope? they make them small and big but work like a rubber band to build up energy to help on recovery where lifting straps are designed not to stretch. They make one that's made to pull 201,000 pounds.
We would love to test one but the breaking stain of the biggest they do is 95t so we would probably break them.
this vid should be part of every mans video collection and played in every man cave world wide! lol Love this kinda thing
What’s going on @4:30 when that whooshing noise comes in? I hear this on machines at the landfill as well.
Hi mate, that is a reverse buzzer, designed to mimic a duck quacking as that travels further then a normal beeper without hurting your ears👍
Tiny 1 put your back! in to it or you'll be turned into spam cans, hahaha. Testing slings with D11's, it doesn't get better than that, awesome "work" gents.
Great video thanks for posting !
Comment for the algorithm,love what you do!
I didnt think for a second those straps would take that much pressure wow !
Amazing what a difference worn Track grousers make on pulling ability!
Where do we buy those!
Science at its best..
Thanks boys
Cool. New camera since the last time I watched. Sweet content, from this city bloke.
Obviously the D115 had much better traction because the tracks had far less wear. Cant say it was stronger because the other one spun the tracks, so it came down to traction.
Well done mates!!!! From the USA!
Great content! Thanks for doing this.
Good stuff mate...interesting for sure 👍🏻
Gentlemen: you are Using the Wrong Product for Pulling (you need a Matt's Recovery Rope for Pulling) Use a Strap for Lifting ... You don't
need a Dozer (work Smarter not Harder) The energy is in the kinetic rope, no need to spend money on heavy equipment … just pull And watch the rope do the work .... 💕🇨🇦💕
Hi mate, you are correct however the strongest Kenetic rope/straps are rated at about 100t and we have broken our fair share of them so we look at alternatives, when a D11 gets really stuck the only thing to pull it out with is the other d11😁 the big lifting straps (20t rated, 140t braking strain) are stronger and 3x cheaper👍
Damn that orange one is 140 ton strength holy crap, I wonder what they use that for
Is that a kiva-pekka stone picker in the background?
Certainly is!
A waste of money? Nah! That's pure science!
NICE TEST....BRAZIL HERE......HAPPY 2022
What a demonstration.You probably have a sponsor in the wings there.
Is tiny 2 an old Bloomfield dozer?
Yes it was👍
What is a paddock? Is that the same as the field?
Yes it is, here it goes farm-property-paddock👍
are those straps Dyneema
For a centennial celebration the people of taiwan engaged in a massive 200+ person each side tug of war. The rope broke with such force it ripped the arms OFF the first two people on each side.
As a human being and a Canadian.. I work in the oilfield using straps all the time and rely on them for my life.. I dont care if there a schill or $10grand specialty, they should all be perfect. Nobody likes lugging around 2.5-3.5 inches (roughly 64-90mm) braided cable especially 60-80 foot lengths+ dragging them around a shop floor and lifting vessels but we do because we know it wont fail. have tons of these soft ropes but when lifting is key and no bounce .. I know what im choosing.
Hi mate, yep fully understand, if we were using them as lifting straps like they are intended we wouldn’t be taking chances👍
So amazing video 😍😍😍😍😍
The 3 straps were slightly different lengths. You could see them breaking one at a time.
Yep we felt the tension on each strap to try get it as close as possible but it’s surprising how much they stretch👍👍
Are the straps 3 ton single pull? It would seem that if they were looped like you had them they would be 6 ton each times 3 straps then totaling 18 ton.
Hi Adam, they are lifting straps so the rating is total because if one side breaks the strap will slip straight through😁👍
Fun video!
So the bigger question is will 3 straps break with no prior stretch ??
Cool video! Was it a "Kivi Pekka" rock picker I spotted in the background? We also got one on our farm in Norway :)
Hi Jens, yep it certainly is!
@@thejacksonbrothers Cool, those machines are awesome in action. We save a lot of hours using the Kivi Pekka in the autumn, so the field is free from large rocks in the spring when we seed the barley. The fight against rocks that constantly comes up from the ground is a never ending battle, so such machinery has really revolutionised farming in my country.
Those straps are 3000kg where do you get the breaking strain figures from?
Hi mate, it says on the packet it has a safety factor of 1/7 which means minimum breaking strain has to be more then 7 times what it’s rated so 3000 x 7 = 21000kgs😀👍
I heard they tied the two dozers together with some of Chuck Norris' dental floss.
can you do that using chain?
Phew-weee amazed to see tiny 2 revved all the way up to 311 rpm and snap 3 like toothpicks 😇🤣😮
Everybody involved is FIRED! Someday I'm going to have a stroke when I come to and see two of my machines tugging against each other.