Gotta shout out invictus mod, has basically kept the game alive in a lot of our hearts. honestly it's my favorite paradox game and I wish it got the love
1700 hours player here. For many of us the game never died. What did die, was any remaining trust towards paradox's board of directors. The only reason the game in it's current state is even playable for more than one playthrough is Invictus's team (Shoutout to Snowlet for coping with the comment section). No matter how many concurrent players we reach Paradox will do what Paradox does the last decade or so. I like to call it, Pyrrhic strategy. You start something until the first hardship arrises and move to the next thing.
@@faniskou I like the game. I have about 500 hours on Steam. But I don’t get why players like Invictus. Nothing about that mod appeals to me. Food is a mess. Rome starves in the first year. And they totally complicated culture and religion. The base game works fine for me.
This is one of my complaints about Vic 3. Slaves that are still residing in slave exporting African nations have a quality of life three times higher than the low class of their captors (QoL 9 for slaves, QoL 3 for African peasants... or was it labourers) and it certainly doesn't go down when they're exported. That somewhat acceptable slave QoL is on par with low class Europeans.
Imperator Rome vs other Paradox games : 1. Best game sound track. 2. Best looking map. 3. Interesting new mechanics. 4. Huge development possibilities. 5. Very good UI. After patch 2.0 the game was in a very good state. I hope Paradox will eventually reinstate the development of this game who has a huge potential.
The interesting thing is how different is your playstyle compared to most of people playing other paradox games (me included). You do the same thing that you do in Civ games, that is "you crank the numbers" and it's so refreshing to see. Personally I cannot possibly stop conquering even if my country has 4 rebellions ongoing at the time. I really hope this game gets revived :v
If you keep playing Imperator, play with the Invictus mod and play on the 2.0.4 open beta. A small patch was randomly released for the game a year ago that fixed some minor bugs but also added some helpful UI to the trade screen to show when you already have a capital surplus (that might be part of invictus but I think it's from the patch). Invictus itself just adds so much new content that there's no point playing without it
This was my first paradox game and it's my favorite one still. I hope and dream it gets dlc someday 😢. Such a great time period. Thank you for playing this. I would watch every video you make of this game
This has been a really interesting video, I love how you explain the intricacies in ways that very few other channels have would love more episodes of Imperator
Your video was the most interesting of the ones I saw in IR revival. The whole playing tall thing and focusing in stability was a breath of fresh air. People tend to forget it and play similar to EU4
I like Imperator but the battle mechanics are way too close to EU4/Victoria for my Hoi4 brain to get used to once more, especially since I don't even play vanilla Hoi4 much anymore I usually play TNO.
Very nice! I always like seeing you play strategy games besides Civ. Speaking of, I'd love to see more Old World stuff from you. Your barbarian streams have been a frequent thing I listen to and watch while doing homework or studying.
Basically my dream paradox game, it's a tragedy it didn't get the polish and content it deserved. Still the pdx game I get drawn back to the most in spite of the flaws.
I play this once in a while, game ends too fast for me, but then again, I'm one of those crazies who play Civ 6 on Marathon only on largest map size, whenever I'm not playing a 1000 system stellaris game on slowest speed, that is.
I'm actually not surprise if they do start updating older games again considering PDX's last financial report. Good for us if they do start updating this again!
Oh my god, I never thought I'd see the day! Imperator: Rome's last update was so promising, fixing so many issues, I was crestfallen when it was immediately abandoned for Vicky 3. Please make this happen!!
I think Imperator's biggest problem was it tried to be every Paradox game at once and didn't really develop its own identity. Family mechanics from CK, pop mechanics/tech trees from Vic and Stellaris, trade goods with bonuses/colonization/government mechanics/ideas/mission trees from HOI and EU4. If you never played a paradox game before, these systems together would be overwhelming. If you have played paradox games before, these systems seem like a downgrade from their respective game. For comparison, I have only 30 hours on this game compared to over 2000 on EU4 and even a game as new as Vic3 I have over 200 hours. Vic3 has it's problems for sure (looking at you warfare mechanics) but it still at its heart is mostly an economic simulator. Vic3 years from now may be as nearly as complicated as EU4. EU4 is still the best paradox strategy game but its main problem is its not new player friendly and has many hidden mechanics buried in tooltips. Imperator feels like they were going for EU4 levels of complexity from the start when they should have been going for Vic3 levels of complexity and add more with each update.
if you really want to play with 'new' content for the game, then try imperator invictus, is a community mod that expands the game in a bunch of places (I haven't played in the steppes, so I can't say for sure). from Warfare to flavor and 'ancient' bloodlines.
Now try EU:Rome the primordial grand daddy of Imperator. But for real, I love this. I agree 100% that imperator was onto something and that johans passion project deserved better.
They made a post, about a year ago, that most of the development team would be moving on..but that they FULLY planned on supporting the game with patches and additional content. I called BS on them then (Steam forums), and my post is still there, if you want to go look for it. The game is dead, and it was all planned.
The devs should make a new expansion for the late Roman Empire! Create a new start date for 395AD and make the 304bc start date playable until 476AD or 500AD. That alone would breathe some much life into the game!
I’m tempted to grab it because it’s only $8 on GOG which is very nice, but I’d rather have it on steam. But as you and everyone says a few more updates and DLC and Imperator might have been another Paradox mainstay like EU, Victoria, CK, and HoI. Oh well. I hear/see the invictos mod is very good and basically the only way the game stays alive. I mean hey, if Paradox is willing to keep Victoria 3 alive I think they can do the same with Imperator Rome.
The fact that they took away the ability to buy units w/ gold + manpower pissed me off. 279 hours and when they forced that mechanic I said F this game I’m done.
Something I cant stand about renewed discussion of Imperator is that people seemingly forget that the whole reason it was abandoned was becuase it got such a level of turbo hatred at the start and throughout most of time year or two after its release where Paradox kept developing what was pretty much a dead game with a quite a lot free updates. Then only years after they understandably stopped pumping money into a dead game have people began to get into it again, and then cite paradox abandoning it some new crime. I'm by no means some paradox fanboy or suck up, but man people have no middle ground response to them seemingly, they desvered the hate for it being so bear bones on release etc. but that people were so commited to it never improving or ever giving it a chance(imo mainly due to having just watch some highly edited YT videos and without having ever actually played the game) that it at the time franky would have been described by these people as a "win" for Paradox to totally dump the game a few months after release. For sure the modding teams getting a more stable game to work with has helped a lot, but that point imo is rather silly when compared to the numerous overhual mods that exist in all paradox games with if anything them being highly aided by paradox themselves who occasionally add in new tools for them and have started to directly co-operate with them in getting the mods stable faster. Imperator would be a better game in the long run if people had been more open to it improving and not been so quick to dogpile over a game many hadnt even played themselves. This annoy's me only because I see the exact same thing happening with newer games like Viccy 3, people for some reason so emotionally invested in hating Paradox would rather see the game totally fail rather than in the longer term give it a chance to improve. Its not even something dumb like "well their not buying it so are ruining it" its them actively constantly crapping on the game when their in too many cases just lying about the game and acting like there is nothing redeemable about it or no chance it will improve(which any sane person who has played it since release can say it has done massively, not that there isnt much more to be done to improve it of course.) People need to be less over the top emotional about this stuff and be more nuanced, people seem to get more fun out of just dumping on a company whatever it does than they do about there being better games to play. Too many people will just watch a youtube vid and base their whole opinion on that alone, actual hivemind behaviour.
I think IR is a pretty decent middle ground between Civ and CK. It’s not all about the leader, like CK, and not quite all about the expansion and city build up, like Civ. Though I still think CK is far superior and just does everything IR does, better.
Corruption is the #1 most important thing for Governors. At any cost, only assign 0 Corruption governors. Also try to pick high loyalty & avoid Greedy trait, but mostly don't let them be Corrupt. If you've got a lot of options, look at families and their actual ability to govern. Also, don't go decentralized if you plan on focusing on building cities and going civilized. That's what Centralization is for.
This game recently disappeared from my Epic account. I had installed it, but never got around to playing it. I recently uninstalled it because I needed disk space, but after seeing a few videos on it I wanted to install it again. I can't, because it's no longer in my library. I don't know if it's an Epic problem or a Paradox problem.
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A short series of Potato Imperator would generate interest - it's difficult to interest people unless they can see it.
Imperatato if you will. Potarator by chance?
@@QuantumBeard impotator?
Gotta shout out invictus mod, has basically kept the game alive in a lot of our hearts. honestly it's my favorite paradox game and I wish it got the love
1700 hours player here. For many of us the game never died. What did die, was any remaining trust towards paradox's board of directors. The only reason the game in it's current state is even playable for more than one playthrough is Invictus's team (Shoutout to Snowlet for coping with the comment section). No matter how many concurrent players we reach Paradox will do what Paradox does the last decade or so. I like to call it, Pyrrhic strategy. You start something until the first hardship arrises and move to the next thing.
This man speaks the truth
@@faniskou I like the game. I have about 500 hours on Steam. But I don’t get why players like Invictus. Nothing about that mod appeals to me. Food is a mess. Rome starves in the first year. And they totally complicated culture and religion. The base game works fine for me.
Potato: "My slaves are unhappy, but that's normal"
Loreaccurate, one would say.
"lore"
This is one of my complaints about Vic 3. Slaves that are still residing in slave exporting African nations have a quality of life three times higher than the low class of their captors (QoL 9 for slaves, QoL 3 for African peasants... or was it labourers) and it certainly doesn't go down when they're exported.
That somewhat acceptable slave QoL is on par with low class Europeans.
Honestly, this game has some really cool mods, and I still play it every once in a while
Imperator Rome vs other Paradox games :
1. Best game sound track.
2. Best looking map.
3. Interesting new mechanics.
4. Huge development possibilities.
5. Very good UI.
After patch 2.0 the game was in a very good state. I hope Paradox will eventually reinstate the development of this game who has a huge potential.
The interesting thing is how different is your playstyle compared to most of people playing other paradox games (me included). You do the same thing that you do in Civ games, that is "you crank the numbers" and it's so refreshing to see. Personally I cannot possibly stop conquering even if my country has 4 rebellions ongoing at the time. I really hope this game gets revived :v
the way you play emperator, is accually entertaining, you are so methododical in your playstyle, explainging as you play.
You should keep doing Imperator Vids I love watching you turn some small insignificant clan into a regional superpower
Genuinely enjoyed Imperator, alas that it was an unloved stepchild
If you keep playing Imperator, play with the Invictus mod and play on the 2.0.4 open beta. A small patch was randomly released for the game a year ago that fixed some minor bugs but also added some helpful UI to the trade screen to show when you already have a capital surplus (that might be part of invictus but I think it's from the patch). Invictus itself just adds so much new content that there's no point playing without it
I would love to see you do another playthrough with Invictus!! Invictus is the spiritual continuation of Imperator development!
You and Alex the Rambler making the push for imperator
Don't forget the OG Imperator Salesman Laith
Technically Laith is the brains behind it
I have been playing civilization 6 and craving a game like this. I appreciate the awareness you have added to this game allowing me to find it.
I started a Dumnonian game yesterday! It's so much fun and I've consolidated the Isles into a huge Druidic population centre. So. Darn. Satisfying.
This was my first paradox game and it's my favorite one still. I hope and dream it gets dlc someday 😢. Such a great time period. Thank you for playing this. I would watch every video you make of this game
This has been a really interesting video, I love how you explain the intricacies in ways that very few other channels have would love more episodes of Imperator
Your video was the most interesting of the ones I saw in IR revival. The whole playing tall thing and focusing in stability was a breath of fresh air. People tend to forget it and play similar to EU4
Awesome! I have been playing imperator a lot lately. Good to see a big youtuber play it 😊
I like Imperator but the battle mechanics are way too close to EU4/Victoria for my Hoi4 brain to get used to once more, especially since I don't even play vanilla Hoi4 much anymore I usually play TNO.
Very nice! I always like seeing you play strategy games besides Civ.
Speaking of, I'd love to see more Old World stuff from you. Your barbarian streams have been a frequent thing I listen to and watch while doing homework or studying.
Have always loved Imperator, great to see it on the channel!
Man i want to see a revival of Empire earth i loved that game
Glad to see this, I like Imperator but forgot how to play.
Love this game, would love to see support ongoing. With the Invictus mod taken on and then continued officially.
really enjoyed this, I hope its something you will visit again in the future.
Basically my dream paradox game, it's a tragedy it didn't get the polish and content it deserved. Still the pdx game I get drawn back to the most in spite of the flaws.
I love Imperator - no game makes you feel like you're changing history like imperator
I play this once in a while, game ends too fast for me, but then again, I'm one of those crazies who play Civ 6 on Marathon only on largest map size, whenever I'm not playing a 1000 system stellaris game on slowest speed, that is.
I may start doing that of Civ5 too, I keep getting ninja culture victories too soon lol
@@T0tenkampf I only allow domination and religion victory. That avoids the accidental win conditions
Creating your OWN WONDER?!?!
Shut up and take my money 💰😍
Potato playing IR???? IM WATCHING YESSIR!
Dude, I swear Laith is going to make the game more popular than Vic3
I bought this game four years ago.
I've never even installed it.
I'd love to see this series continue!
How different this is from the battles in total war games is something I did not expect. But those policies are amazing, it seems.
I’d love to see more imperator Rome on the channel
lmao you also?!
I love this game, especially the music
This intro though! 😮
There is so much potential to this game as is, and the modding tools are great. It's my only beef with paradox that they dropped this game.
I'm actually not surprise if they do start updating older games again considering PDX's last financial report. Good for us if they do start updating this again!
Are you going to play some more? I would definitely watch a second and third episode of this!
And this isn't even the first time today i've thought about Rome...
I built a metropolis in the capital of Suionia as well. On the very edge of the map.
Oh my god, I never thought I'd see the day! Imperator: Rome's last update was so promising, fixing so many issues, I was crestfallen when it was immediately abandoned for Vicky 3. Please make this happen!!
Love this game, hope the hype helps bring more updates, thx for participating
I'd love some more Imperator Rome content! Please continue this playthrough!
You made me feel I was playing this game so wrong 😂
I know this isn't the type of strategy game you play but I love Ck3 and it would be cool to see you play one of the starts
Please make this a series
Thanks for playing my ancestors tribes from Lithuania 😍
I think Imperator's biggest problem was it tried to be every Paradox game at once and didn't really develop its own identity. Family mechanics from CK, pop mechanics/tech trees from Vic and Stellaris, trade goods with bonuses/colonization/government mechanics/ideas/mission trees from HOI and EU4. If you never played a paradox game before, these systems together would be overwhelming. If you have played paradox games before, these systems seem like a downgrade from their respective game.
For comparison, I have only 30 hours on this game compared to over 2000 on EU4 and even a game as new as Vic3 I have over 200 hours. Vic3 has it's problems for sure (looking at you warfare mechanics) but it still at its heart is mostly an economic simulator. Vic3 years from now may be as nearly as complicated as EU4. EU4 is still the best paradox strategy game but its main problem is its not new player friendly and has many hidden mechanics buried in tooltips. Imperator feels like they were going for EU4 levels of complexity from the start when they should have been going for Vic3 levels of complexity and add more with each update.
Checking steam charts, you sucessfully doubled the player count from ~600 to ~1200 peak. Well done!
Genuinely liked this game. I hope to see future development even if it's just mods!
I really enjoyed this one and would love to see you finish it.
if you really want to play with 'new' content for the game, then try imperator invictus, is a community mod that expands the game in a bunch of places (I haven't played in the steppes, so I can't say for sure).
from Warfare to flavor and 'ancient' bloodlines.
I know this video is dedicated to this game but watching you play this makes me want to watch you play CK3 as Ireland
I have never heard of this game but it looks very thorough, not sure I will buy as its unsupported but it made my wishlist
terra indomita mod brought me back to this game
Love this game too man. Great vid.
Haven't played any Pdx games lately and was busy with other nerd stuff on the 17th but honestly it might be time to give this one another go.
Oh yea the Imperator Revival is really happening rn
Glad PDX didn't just gave up on the game!
At least mods can't get outdated, but I'd love if Pdox revived the game.
Now try EU:Rome the primordial grand daddy of Imperator.
But for real, I love this. I agree 100% that imperator was onto something and that johans passion project deserved better.
IR making some kind of a comeback would be really cool.
They made a post, about a year ago, that most of the development team would be moving on..but that they FULLY planned on supporting the game with patches and additional content. I called BS on them then (Steam forums), and my post is still there, if you want to go look for it. The game is dead, and it was all planned.
Everyone who loves eu4 should try this game, its basically everything i want from eu5.
Love this game
And love to see you on it
It deserves to get updates and to get a dlc that would give a bridge to when Christianity and being able to decide to split the empire.
The devs should make a new expansion for the late Roman Empire! Create a new start date for 395AD and make the 304bc start date playable until 476AD or 500AD. That alone would breathe some much life into the game!
I’m tempted to grab it because it’s only $8 on GOG which is very nice, but I’d rather have it on steam. But as you and everyone says a few more updates and DLC and Imperator might have been another Paradox mainstay like EU, Victoria, CK, and HoI. Oh well. I hear/see the invictos mod is very good and basically the only way the game stays alive.
I mean hey, if Paradox is willing to keep Victoria 3 alive I think they can do the same with Imperator Rome.
Randomly i think with a couple of mods this game from 2019 is better than Victoria 3.
have it, palyed a bit, i should go back, i nailed perfidious albion while it was difficult :)
This game is wonderful
Ave potatorator.
I wanted to love this game so badly when it came out! I played some but i never really understood it i think
I really want a DLC for Bactria and South Asia. They stopped developing the game before that could happen. One day... I hope and dream!
Bring back Puzzle Pirates old glory iykyk
get daltos on the line, he's got that taste for puzzle pirates too
Yeah we all love the idea of Freemen because of Fremen!
Its honestly better if paradox dousent come back to the game. Just let the mooders keep working at it.
We already know some of use never stopped
The fact that they took away the ability to buy units w/ gold + manpower pissed me off. 279 hours and when they forced that mechanic I said F this game I’m done.
I do like this game, I just haven't played It much.
Enjoyable as usual.
Dude I loved this game.
Trying to resurrect Imperator Rome? You need to do a collaboration with Laith.
I'm pretty sure they're collaborating already
Can you play as the Picts or the Caledonians in this game? This is the first I've ever heard of the game at all.
I keep playing sparta and getting space marines by stacking discipline😂
Something I cant stand about renewed discussion of Imperator is that people seemingly forget that the whole reason it was abandoned was becuase it got such a level of turbo hatred at the start and throughout most of time year or two after its release where Paradox kept developing what was pretty much a dead game with a quite a lot free updates.
Then only years after they understandably stopped pumping money into a dead game have people began to get into it again, and then cite paradox abandoning it some new crime.
I'm by no means some paradox fanboy or suck up, but man people have no middle ground response to them seemingly, they desvered the hate for it being so bear bones on release etc. but that people were so commited to it never improving or ever giving it a chance(imo mainly due to having just watch some highly edited YT videos and without having ever actually played the game) that it at the time franky would have been described by these people as a "win" for Paradox to totally dump the game a few months after release.
For sure the modding teams getting a more stable game to work with has helped a lot, but that point imo is rather silly when compared to the numerous overhual mods that exist in all paradox games with if anything them being highly aided by paradox themselves who occasionally add in new tools for them and have started to directly co-operate with them in getting the mods stable faster.
Imperator would be a better game in the long run if people had been more open to it improving and not been so quick to dogpile over a game many hadnt even played themselves. This annoy's me only because I see the exact same thing happening with newer games like Viccy 3, people for some reason so emotionally invested in hating Paradox would rather see the game totally fail rather than in the longer term give it a chance to improve. Its not even something dumb like "well their not buying it so are ruining it" its them actively constantly crapping on the game when their in too many cases just lying about the game and acting like there is nothing redeemable about it or no chance it will improve(which any sane person who has played it since release can say it has done massively, not that there isnt much more to be done to improve it of course.)
People need to be less over the top emotional about this stuff and be more nuanced, people seem to get more fun out of just dumping on a company whatever it does than they do about there being better games to play. Too many people will just watch a youtube vid and base their whole opinion on that alone, actual hivemind behaviour.
I think IR is a pretty decent middle ground between Civ and CK. It’s not all about the leader, like CK, and not quite all about the expansion and city build up, like Civ. Though I still think CK is far superior and just does everything IR does, better.
YES!!!!!!!! WE WILL MAKE IMPERATOR GREAT AGAIN!
if vicky can come back, who knows?
This game would have very successful if they included China, they love games about China
Corruption is the #1 most important thing for Governors. At any cost, only assign 0 Corruption governors. Also try to pick high loyalty & avoid Greedy trait, but mostly don't let them be Corrupt. If you've got a lot of options, look at families and their actual ability to govern.
Also, don't go decentralized if you plan on focusing on building cities and going civilized. That's what Centralization is for.
I do own this game but have not given it the time it deserves.
I felt like they dropped it just as it was getting its shit together.
We need more.
Baltic tribes mentioned RAAAHHHHHHH 🦅🦅🦅
The best Paradox game, ever, bar none
Global Return Of Imperator Rome Day
should be
March 15
This game recently disappeared from my Epic account. I had installed it, but never got around to playing it. I recently uninstalled it because I needed disk space, but after seeing a few videos on it I wanted to install it again. I can't, because it's no longer in my library. I don't know if it's an Epic problem or a Paradox problem.
Would you be happy with a CK3 DLC that started at 400ce and had more tribal options?