JungleRoar: Trags recaps the ups and downs of 2024 Bengals Draft with James Rapien
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
- CINCINNATI -- The Cincinnati Bengals think they have hit the jackpot by drafting 6-8 tackle Amarius Mims 18th overall in the 2024 NFL Draft. They have an offensive lineman who could step in be an impact player right away. How did the Bengals do with their remaining nine selections? What needs were addressed? What reaches were made? How will Dax Hill respond to being moved to corner and competing with DJ Turner for the second starting corner spot opposite Cam Taylor-Britt? Trags chats with James Rapien of BengalsTalk.com to analyze and break it all down.
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Trags and James are the best combo lol
James, your philosophical perspective on "the process" showed another side of yourself. It is a complimentary demension.
The Bengals just didn’t have one or two guys that might be stars like the Bears with Caleb Williams and Odunze,or Washington with Jayden Daniels and Johnny Newton. Those are the only two guys that stand out that will help their team. The Bengals drafted a lot of good players that can help their team on both sides of the ball. They addressed the O line with Amarius Mims,a guy that has serious potential to be a good starting RT in the league. They drafted Kris Jenkins,who proved week in and week out he can win against good competition and is a guy who will fit right in with this Bengals defense. Then Jermaine Burton out of Alabama,the guy has exceptional rout running abilities with top end speed. The guy is a Swiss Army knife that can be used multiple ways in this Bengals offense. I like the picks in McKinley Jackson who fills a need at nose tackle as well. They also drafted a very athletic DB in Josh Newton who had really good seasons on the back end of that horn frogs defense. Plus they drafted a few tight ends and a backup center late in the draft with Matt Lee. I like what the Bengals did in this draft. I gave them a solid B+ in this years draft. But if three or four picks in this draft turn out to be solid starters on this team this draft very well could be the best draft in the Zac Taylor era. It has a lot of potential to be a great draft for the Bengals. They addressed holes on the team,while also selecting the best players at that position. That’s a win win!!
Jenkins will be compared with Michael Hall, Jr., who was a better pass rushing DT for OSU, taken a few picks after Jenkins. If Hendrickson has a down year or gets injured, the pick of Mims instead of Newton or Jared Verse will not look good either. And the same goes for the Eric All pick if our top running back gets injured since we did not address our lack of depth and explosiveness at running back. This could be a draft where the Bengals outsmarted themselves and blew a Super Bowl potential season by not focusing enough on our defense.
Great job guys!
I’m also exited about Cedric Johnson he had 7.5 sacks last year at Ole Miss 4 the year before that and 6.5 his freshman year. I can’t fucking believe this guy was still there in round 6. He was a 3rd round pick all day long
Battle should be starting. He was the 8th ranked safety last year.
James....Your off on this draft and a few other things!!!!
Don’t sleep on Charlie Jones people
Mekhi Wingo is not a nose tackle. I know because I watch all LSUs games and I folllw the team closely. Wingo was a disruptive 3 tech. Maason Smith played 3 tech sometime and NT sometime. Jordan Jefferson was the teams true NT. I love me some Maason Smith I think he could be great. Wish he would have come back to school for another year. He would have been a 1st round pick next year. I wouldn’t have taken him in the second round though. I would have used that last 3rd round pick in him. We could have make him a NT. Do yall remember Renell Wren? He is 6’5’’ 315.
Mclaclin was a WR his first 3 years In college and converted to TE. He also just turned 25 in March. And he did 20 reps on the bench press. That’s pretty good for a TE. Considering Ossai and Hendrickson are both DEs and they both put up 19 reps. So no question about his strength. He has good explosion numbers 35 inch vertical almost a 10 foot braid jump. Those are extremely good numbers. He ran a 4.61. That’s faster than Travis Kelce. But Tanners 10 yard split is 1.58. Jamar Chases 10 yard split is 1.59. Just saying. He also broke Gronkowskis record for receptions by a TE at Arizona. That’s where Gronk went. Erick All is almost 6’5’’ 252 but didn’t test because I guess he was hurt but he has some kong arms 33 inches which is good for catcher radius.
The pick of All in round 4 makes no sense if you're "all-in" on winning now. We passed on a running back with elite speed who averaged 7 yards per carry to get an older prospect for 2025 who has had back and knee surgery.
DJ Ivey is probably starting the season on the PUP list and may have to go to the practice squad to get back into game shape. And I would cut Jalen Davis because we don’t need him. Dax is the future nickel and backup this year. I’d let Jalen go so he can get on another team. The Titans might want him.
Jackson Carman could only play LT. I think that’s crystal clear. When he came in at LT in 2022 he was pretty good. In the playoffs in the snow he didn’t allow any sacks on Burrow.
Dax will be fine. He played CB at Michigan. Mostly nickel but some outside too. He never played FS at Michigan. He played a little SS in the box but he was never the roaming free safety the center fielder. That’s not what he is good at. Dax is an elite nickel CB period. So they are moving him back to the position he played at Michigan. I don’t think he beats out Turner or CTB though because he was primarily nickel or a nickel/SS hybrid if you will. Like Brian Branch for the Lions. That’s Dax. Branch was classified as a safety in college too but he played Nickel primarily. Don’t worry Dax will excel backing up Hilton this year then next year he is the starter. That’s why I think they should cut Jalen Davjs. If all Davis can do is play nickel we don’t need a 2 backup nickels.
Do yall know who is a free agent right now? Tre Flowers is. We need a veteran CB and Flowers is big long and fast and we know him. He is only 28 he is 6’3’’ 200 lbs has 34 inch arms and runs 4.45. I think we should bring Tre back.
Who Dey
The kobe Bryant mamba? 😂
-trags
Billy Price shouldn’t have been picked because he did t test. Jackson Carman also didn’t test! Hakeem Adeniji tested. Dante Smith tested.
McKinley Jackson was gone at 102 or 105, not a reach at all.
Robbins is DONE! He knew what was expected last year!
OMG Mekhi Wingo is NOT S NOSE TACKLE FOR FUCKS SAKE!! He is a 6’ 293 lbs 3 tech! He is. Ask my the exact same size Murphy is Murphy is around an inch taller. That’s the only difference. Wingo has almost the same profile as Geno Atkins does. He may have taken some snaps at nose tackle but he isn’t and doesn’t classify himself as a NT. Byron Murphy is a differant story. He played about half of his snaps from the NT position. And you don’t have to be 330+ pounds to play NT. Jay Tufele is NT 305 lbs. Kobie Turner is a NT at 293 lbs. That Bell kid we got off waivers last year is 310 he is a NT. Kobie Turner is interesting. I wanted the Bengals to draft him last year. At Wake Forest he was not known as a pass rusher but a run stopper. He only
Had 2 sacks his last year in college. Kind of reminds me of Kris Jenkins. The best run defender in the country. Had quite a few pressures but just had 2.5 sacks his senior year. Kobie Turner had 9 sacks this year. It’s not at all u reasonable to think that Marion Hobbi gets ahold of Jenkins and Jackson and trains them to rush the passer. We have a better deal too because Jenkins and Jackson are both just 22 years old. They are both true seniors. 4 years of college. Kobie Tuner was 24 last year when he was drafted lol. He is 25 right now. Jackson turns 23 at the end of December and Jackson turns 23in November I think. So this is both of their age 22 season. We have these guys 2 full years earlier than the Rams have Turner. And Turner doest have an amazing profile or anything. Its ok. Jenkins is definantly the better athlete between them. And Jackson is a 6’2’’ 330 lbs nose tackle. Very few NTs have a really athletic profile. DJ Readers RAS was 2.01 and Jackson’s is 3.98. Jackson’s score was pulled way down because his vertical was pretty bad but his broad jump was dam good so I do t get that.
I would have taken Fuagq before I did Latham. Latham would be off my board for only 1 reason. HE DID NOT TEST. At the Combine or his Pro Day. He did nothing. That makes me think of Even Neil the Bama tackle the giants got at 7th overall a few years ago. He has been a fucking disaster. They are trying to let him play guard now and he can’t do that either! And Neal like Latham did not test. So I would take in this order Alt, Fuaga, Mims, Olu Fashaunu, that Washington tackle, Graham Barton, I would have taken Roger Rosengarten before Latham. If Latham was still there in the 3rd I would take him. Rosengarten tested fucking great! 6’5’’ 310 33.5 inch arms 4.92 40 and a 30 inch vertical and a good broad jump. This is how I wished it would have went down. I wish we had gotten Murphy In round 1 and Rosengarten in round 2. Rosengarten is a starting NFL RT. He is good. I have no idea why no one was taking about him. The Ravens were paying attention though. But my second Choice was Mims in the first and either Newton or Jenkins In round 2. I just really wanted Murphy. We have had someone like him since Geno Atkins was here. Maybe Jenkins can become a better pass rusher now that he is here. I do t see why he couldn’t.
Great podcast. Af as tee goes, if the Bengals didn't offer him at least 40 mil guaranteed....I'm gonna rip em for it. Tee is a blue chip and if he's not a blue chip he's not far away from it. If they didn't offer him at least the 2nd year guaranteed they need to get with the new nfl because for a player like tee, teams will offer him the 2nd year. If they offered him 40 plus mil guaranteed and tee still leaves that's not on the Bengals.
Watching Fautanus tape he’s constantly getting pushed back close to the QB. Mims doesn’t love when he engaged he just stones everyone, he gives the QB so much room it’s wild. He has a higher floor and cieling than maybe anyone in the draft (Alt has highest floor)
Mims is as big as Orlando and Trent. BUT the difference is Mims is athletic as fuck and Orlando is one of the worst athletes at tackle probably my ever. Trent is more athletic than Orlando but still isn’t very athletic. It doesn’t matter. They are so big and so long they use their length and size and strength that makes up for whatever they lack athletically. I disagree I don’t think Mims has a low floor. His ceiling is so high you need a fucking telescope to see it. Amarius Mims floor is Orlando Brown. Or Trent Brown ariand 2020. Trent is still good though. So that is Mims floor. At the very least he will be as good as Orlando and Trent. The ceiling is a Joe Thomas type
Of career. He will have some bumps In the beginning and it won’t look pretty but once he settles In and just plays man he is going to do great things. Or how about his ceiling is Willie Anderson. After Orlando leaves us and I hope he stays a long time but if and when he leaves I would slide Mims over. Or not the Lions left Pennai Sewell on the right side. The Bucs let Wirfs play on the right for 4 years and just moved him to the left side. But I really don’t think the whole left side right side is a thing anymore. The Lions have there best tackle playing in the right the Buc had their best tackle doing the same thing and the Dolphins because Tua is a lefty the Dolphins still have their best tackle Terron Armstead playing his usual spot of left tackle. So he is t covering Tuas blind side. When Armstead was with the Saints he only ever played Left tackle but the Saints RT Ryan Ramzchek is the better tackle and he never moved since he has been there from the right.
People mentioning a 6th round pick is 25 is wild. If the dude plays out 2 contracts it’s a win