DIY Spray Foam Tires - Do they ACTUALLY work long term? (Part 3)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Will spray foam work to make solid tires on a riding lawn mower? How about a garden trailer with weight? Lets find out! As a follow up to the first two videos I did on spray foam tires (links below) here is the third installment of spray foam tire testing. ↘️↘️Click “SHOW MORE” below to open the full video description! ↙️↙️ ⠀
Spray Foam Tires - Which FOAM Actually WORKS? | Part 1
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* Spray Foam Tires Part 2 | DIY Run Flats TESTED To FAILURE*
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Spray Foam Tires - Which FOAM Actually WORKS? | Part 1
ruclips.net/video/KnpHSMAvPPc/видео.html
Spray Foam Tires Part 2 | DIY Run Flats TESTED To FAILURE
ruclips.net/video/mVtQG4oGgXU/видео.html
I could just buy a new tire blah blah...
Some people don't understand experimenting is just plain fun and interesting it's like being a kid again.
Agreed.
Thanks for making the video on spray foam. I wondered if it works and now I don't have to try it for my self. I got tired of fixing the tires on my garden cart that is similar to yours and I looked and looked for a solution I could afford, I found 10 in. x 2.5 in. Cosco Flat-Free Replacement Wheels for Hand Trucks (2-Pack) for about $25 for the 2-pack. They are a little shorter than the original tires but I thought it was worth trying and I am so glad I did. I have hauled a lot of weight in mine and they have held up over the couple years I been having them on the wagon. They look like cheap plastic but they are very sturdy. I also like the yellow because it actually matches my little John Deere tire wheels that I pull that wagon with. I loaded up about 8 concrete blocks in it recently, the 16" x 8" x 8" size blocks. I have about an acre property and was moving the blocks from one end to other end of property. My little john deer is an S-100, I could tell the weight was on the trailer pulling it. I like those tires so much that I replaced the tires I had on my mobile mini greehhouse I built. When my hand cart tires get worn out I will replace those with the 10 in. x 2.5 in. Cosco Flat-Free Replacement Wheels for Hand Trucks (2-Pack) also. I really like those tires and can't beat the price. If a person doesn't like the bright yellow they could always spray paint them another color. If ya google those tires you will find them from several vendors. I got mine at the big orange store but they have went up in price there since I bought m last set.
Glad they've worked well for you and that youve had no issues with going to a smaller tire size!
I tried this and it works really well. The foam inside the tyre kept expanding for about 4 days and now it's as solid as a rock! Well done!
Its not a long term solution, but was a really fun experiment and might have its place for certain applications.
Same here. It has to cure for more than a day. Never mind what the can says. Do it ahead of time and keep it as a spare. Also the tires he is using are very narrow and put more pressure on one spot. Wider tractor front tires work better.
until you put weight on it. but they do make tire foam thats poly uathine big diffrence.
I'm an Englishman Liverpool actually and your a guy after my own style .The commandos have a motto adapt improvise and overcome and that's what you've done full marks mate. Yes you could run around going off the job trying to get a replacement tyre but we all know the downside of those wild goose crashes. Get the job done and on your travels keep an eye out for what's available to improve on what you've got.Well done
Thanks for watching!
"Adapt, improvise, overcome..." Claimed as a motto of special forces all over the place, yet is just a quote from a silly movie.
Sorry about your country
Great idea for the wheelbarrow!! I was hoping for better results on the wagon, too bad it was a bust. Thank you for showing so many different attempts to make it work. See you soon.
Thanks for watching John!
I took the valve core out, sprayed it in there until it came out. My release hole at the top never had a problem. They were hard the next day. By the way, I use the large gap filler foam😊
How has it held up for you?>
And updates??
It might inspire a creator to make a specific foam for old lawnmower tires, different from what Is available
That would be cool!
@@GanderFlight no accidents in this world.
Love the experiment, thank you for the effort and information
Very thorough, balanced, authoritative. Thanks.
Thanks for watching Ashley!
I think leaving the foam exposed to the elements water getting in there degrades the foam much faster, I think the better idea is through the valve core, or break the bead and spray it in there, Or in your case some sealant over every drill hole probably would have contributed to a longer foam tire life..
I have a John Deere riding mower and it has foam in the tires. No problem. Love it.
Know what kind of foam?
Need to run the test with a couple more variables. Different types of foam, closed cell vs. open cell foam, high density foam and closed cell vs open cell foam again. Wet the tire thoroughly inside before foam is added. Plus, without drilling the holes, wouldn’t it be better for the tire after it’s foamed because you could perhaps even air it a bit up after it’s cured and see if it is better or worse for its life, and you could build one of those things like the DMV has for dyno testing where you can run the tires under load and not need to actually be driving around for hundreds of miles or hours or whatever?
Maybe even spin the tire immediately after foaming while it’s foam is still curing could help it spread with centripetal force, you know like have it mounted and then use the throttle to spin it while it’s off the ground under no load perhaps? Have fun, that’s the most important part of the experiments apart from solving a really great series of questions. Thx for the video, it got me thinking, that’s for sure
Having fun is what started it all! Thanks for watching
Planning to try this in the kids bike tires we get from the scrapyard. The kids only fit a bike for a few months anyway. It is so relieving when the bikes already come with foam tires.
Highly recommend NOT trying this on bicycles- the foam to weight and speed ratios say it won’t hold up long at all
I think I'm going to try this on my tool box cart.
I have spent a lot of time in the past replacing tires, cleaning beads, putting in tubes, making sure there is nothing to puncture a hole in the tire and still come in the next day to find a flat. I even accused co workers at sabotaging my tires and/or letting the air out just to mess with me so I locked it up in a place no one else could get to and, yep flat tire. The cart just sits in one spot untill I really need to move it and then I air the tires, take it to the next location and park it there for the next few weeks instead of pulling it around to the different locations outside where I really need the tools like I originally wanted to do. So much time saved if you don't have to trek back inside to get a tool cause your tools are there beside you at the job.
Yep, think I'm going to try this.
I think you'll be disappointed - too small of wheels and too much weight. Here's some additional testing: ruclips.net/video/88ZYnSid3g4/видео.html
Rocking on. I still may give it a shot on my mower, the dirty b^^^^^^^. Something I did use spray foam for was making the shaped lining inside a guitar case. Turns out, probably do not want to leave your Gibson Les Paul wrapped in a trash bag exposed to the heat of expanding foam, or the potential of chemical leaks. It cured so globby I ended up cutting quite a bit back out and cutting panels of 1/2 foam to fit the guitar, gluing them together and covering them with my fabric. But hey, experimenting is fun. At the price of wood right now, I am visualizing spray foam lumber.
😂😂😂spray foam lumber!
I used oversized pool noodles In the front Bogey wheels on my zero turn mower. It's a toro with a sixty four inch deck.. I'm not sure of the weight but i've been using them for almost two years now
Nice!! Good tip Alex. Just the foam noodle or air too?
I have a skid loader that came to me with foam-filled tires. The former owner used it for building demolition, and had lots of flats before he filled the tires with foam. I don't know what sort of foam he used. He may have had it done commercially.
Whatever foam he used, it has held up in the skid loader tires for fifteen years now.
Most likely a commercial two part foam - cant imagine this type of foam working on a skid loader
Good video, you answered couple of my questions. I have similar small tires on my portable generator, it doesn't get moved very often but when I do have to move it I cant with flat tires,. So maybe solid ties would be better for me....
Solid tires would probably work best for you - but I'd just buy them - I don't think this foam setup would work well long term for that.
added some water inside the tire for curing this time .foamed like crazy
Didn't read the fine print on can for curing
The foam when we have used for years had no idea that water helped curing process
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Thanks for sharing your experiment it helps me out in future tire repairs. I'll just buy a tube at this point.
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It’s good for rolling gates is about all
But I’ve used it in lawn tractor for cutting grass works also
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try trans fluid or even used motor oil . over years , oil will ruin the tire , but it's free , and you ruin your tires by drilling holes for the foam anyway . you can't later put a tube in a tire that had oil in it though , it'll dissolve the tube quickly (like overnight) .
the air and water is what hardens the foam if you had two-part foam it would be much stronger
The flexibility of the rotating rubber would soon grind it into powder.
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Pls forgive the length of this comment BUT I have used a length of rubber, maybe its silicone hose.. I honestly don't... and added it to the end of the straw as a flexible extension for longer reach. Ive used it for wall/ceiling gaps where the space kinda rounds a corner or runs along a board where it needs reach but you need the expanding foam to really fill up the space so adding holes would be counter-productive. I plan to use this when i add the expanding foam around the hollow space around my bath tub.
I think im going to experiment using my method but also i think im going to pry the tire away from the rim, add styrofoam, maybe glue it inside and leave a small channel to run my hose and add the spray foam that way .. might work 🤷🏼♀️
*Btw the hose is medical grade air hose like the hose from the hospital for oxygen or a nebulizer. (for anyone who doesn't know what a nebulizer is, it's a machine thats usually small/ portable for breathing treatments like at the hospital but for home use to help with asthma/copd/bronchitis ect.) I have asthma and i had a friend whos dad passed away and he had a large stash of those hoses so instead of throwing it out she gave it to me. So any of it that was already open, has been torn ect I've used in projects. I dont suggest wasting money to buy that special is all lol😂
Did you experiment with it? How'd it turn out?
You saved me time and money! I owe you a steak dinner! Was going to try it but you helped make my decision!😂
Tried it on those little 11" zero turn front tires. DIdn't really work. $3 / can for big foam wasn't a terrible loss of experiement since my tire was shot anyway.
Yes its definitely a weight to foam ratio on how long it will last.
Thank you! Answered exactly the question I was asking!
Glad I could help!
Haven't used foam yet, but I keep putting tire slime and plugs in my mower tire, keep expecting the mower to stop working so I have refused to get new tires.
As soon as you buy a new tire, thats when the motor will quite
First mistake I see is drilling holes in the tires. Remove the guts of the fill valve, spray foam whilst rotating tire for even distribution, then put the guts back in the valve.
I tried that on another tire and it never cured the foam inside going through the valve stem.
Sounds like a good idea! Thank you
Never apologise for trying something out!
Knowledge gained ;)
maybe try foam for post setting, it's a more solid mixture.
That would be a cool experiment!
I was wondering about tennis balls and I've seen plastic pipe used as well for tubeless tire designs, though unless using a good quality rubber tube stacked... gonna fail is my guess. Might not with plastic pipe inside tires... though safe to go with rubber is my thought. Makes me now wonder about that playground rubber replacement for sand as well. The rubber products coupled with a coating of the FlexFoam-iT!™ 25 would probably be good for a while. Looks like Lowe's and Tractor Supply have "NuScape Brown Rubber Nugget Mulch" and the price looks good alone. Man, that gets me wondering about applying like you did with the side wall holes or maybe better using a sharp razor blade cutter to cut out the one or maybe more fill hole(s) and bonding that sidewall piece back in after filling with NuScape with like what the "sixtyfiveford" YT channel uses in the video titled "Tire Sidewall PUNCTURE permanent repair procedure" the PR40 to PR100 (difference in set time and viscosity) Rubber Weld by 3M.
Sounds like a good experiment to try ;o)
@@GanderFlight Yeah, thinking the rubber mulch is more feasible installed using the hole saw'd or maybe slit method and PR40 Scotch-Weld to adhere back the slits or hole saw'd out pieces. Thinking the slits will be the better route. My only concern is a lack of uniformity with the rubber mulch if there isn't an adhesive coating on that (maybe type 1 silicone though better to be a optimal rubber adhesive like used on the side walls or tire repair patches maybe) when installed and balanced out to be uniform.
if you get a soft spot drill into it and put more foam.
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Is there ANY way to calculate the foam density for specific loads?
I'd like to use foam for my orthotic insole. Any recommandations?
I would try out the Window and Door Foam. It is minimal expanding and does not put pressure on door and window jambs. It is also softer foam.
Just buy a can and experiment. Have fun.
What about plastic dock wheels for buoyancy and keeping them from filling them with water.
Cheers
Never considered those
Appreciate the info and the effort . Thx.
You bet!
You used too many hole 2 or 3 max at 5/16..lasts a long time
Thanks for the opinion!
I've been thinking of doing this on my hand truck. I hardly use it and it stays inside the garage. I have cans of foam just sitting there tempting me to do it. You think it will hold up ?
It will work - but for how long is the question...
I am curious to try air soft pellets. They may fit through Schrader valve with stem removed.
hmmm -interesting idea!
Fill with anti flat or a tube
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You need to keep water out I have heard on the heavy equipment that come with foam filed tires that water breaks it down
Thanks for sharing that input James!
Maybe there is an alternative activator.
I think there definitely is a market for it!
I heard you can use automatic transmission fluid in place of slime.
Interesting - have you tried it?
Gander Flight No, I have not. I just heard about it. I heard about it from Henry at mowers n blowers. He’s one of the guys on RUclips who makes videos about lawnmower repairs.
I may have to play around with that.
Gander Flight I just found the video, here’s the link. ruclips.net/video/be37td4-Qpk/видео.html
My go kart uses lawn mower tires and one of my tires has been leaking bad. Would this method be okay on a go kart that is just drove around the yard?
I highly doubt it would hold up to that kind of use.
Just filled a tube woth it and am trying just for the fun of it
Let me know your results Ethan.
What kind of foam does the OE use? They run foam filled tires on big heavy equipment regularly, so just wondering what they were using.
OE?
@@GanderFlight Original Equipment or rather Original manufacturer if you want to think of it that way. Well, I guess they use a third party, but I know companies all of the time will have skid steer and hoist tires factory filled with foam. Funny thing is though if ones ever cut apart it looks like the foam is only in the tread area of the tire, which doesn't make sense but I assume it's very stout stuff for loads considering these pieces of equipment with load can easily weigh up to around 20000lbs and do 40 to 50 mph on the road then there are companies filling large tractor tires with foam and those can weigh up to 30 or 40000lbs depending on hp and size. I imagine it's just too expensive for your average person though - probably the 2 part you were talking about?
@@GHuggins gotcha, I figured that's what you were referring to but wanted to clarify. Ultimately, the customer obviously doesn't have a HUGE pain point, other wise the OEM would solve the issue, hopefully ;)
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Tite foam it’s denser I have it in a Air jack tires for commercial vehicles
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It did not work now u have to try to use the rim now I have clean it and see if I don't need a new one
Thanks for sharing your experience.
They use foam filled tires in construction
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Lol.... My neighbors would Lynch me if my mower was three years old, let alone a older mower with hole in the tires....
Eventually the foam will break down
Trying to get those wheels off. That transmission axle would be out feeding its own. Probably easier to take the axle real the transmission I used to build those transmissions when I work for the company. peerless gear. A division of the Tecumseh products company. I tested every transmission 100% shift test, inspected. I stayed there for 14 years until they closed. They used to lay us off. For the whole summer, it was the greatest.
Thanks for watching!
Not a good solution. This is low-density, rigid foam. You want high-density, flexible foam like Smooth-On's FlexFoam-iT! 25.
Thanks for the suggestion Dan. Where can I get some of that?
Not at $190 per gallon for that product.
If you can’t fix it right don’t use foam
Fixed right is relative to use. This was an experiment. Thanks for watching Bruce!
Awesome video u answered my question on a small wagon!
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I believe it cures and gets hard with oxygen.
Correct. Can you expand, not sure what this comment is pointing out.
Why drill holes in the tire when you can use the valve stem 😂😂😂😂
I tried that on another tire - the foam never cured that way for me.
Interesting. Like #466
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How did I get here?🤔
Rabbithole
@@GanderFlight I'm sure your mother and father had something to do with it😃
The whole point of a pneumatic tire is flexibility from air compression. Spray foam isn’t flexible. It can’t work in principle.
Depends on what you're looking to use it for :)
Do I need flexible on a old wheelbarrow?
Nice proof-of-concept trial - i was wondering, thanks. Hacks will be the order of the day in the tribulation we're now entering. Don't forget to gaze at Christ' healing "hidden manna".
Thanks for watching
Hey, i know how to get more views and attract more attention to myself and my life.. Lets be apart of the problem, and not the solution. Regardless if it works or not.
Infecting others with stupidity is never the solution to a better world.
just buy a tube like a normal person.
But that doesn't solve my curiousity
Killjoy :)
Great tests and HONESTY 💪💪
Glad you liked it!
🫵🏾Sound like the tire company got to him and he’s backtracking, show me the money🤓🙏🏽💵💰👀
what are you talking about?
Yeah, I dont think using GreatStuff is a good idea.
So, I ordered new tubes and 2 gallons of multi-Seal. That should fix all my hand trucks, wagons, and wheelbarrows.
I will also try the 2 part FlexFoam 25 in front tractor tyres. But I wanna get new tyres before I waste foam on them.
I might use golfballs or baseballs if I can find them lying around, to take up space so it takes less foam to fill a tyre. Low speed, so it wont matter on balance.
Sounds like lots of experimenting ahead of you!
I was wondering about tennis balls and I've seen plastic pipe used as well for tubeless designs, though unless using a good quality rubber stacked... gonna fail is my guess. Might not with plastic pipe inside tires... though safe to go with rubber is my thought. Makes me now wonder about that playground rubber replacement for sand as well. Glad you commented! What'd you wind up using?
A gallon of the flex foam 25 is around $190.