Much appreciated! I used to use pool noodles but since were out of season right now they only have a 4 foot long ones and not 6 foot. In this video are used pipe insulator which is basically the exact same thing. You can get them pre-slit or solid. This cost like $2.18 I think.
It probably works to a point. It depends on the length of the projectile and as for glass ingress I wouldn't hazard a guess. At least it's something you can try to prevent flats. I may just try this trick. Better nothin.
Right I thought that's what he did then he started adding the tube I was like??? Wouldn't it be easier to put the tube in the noodle and then put it on and inflate it.... Have you tried this? This my first time changing a bike tire. It's for my son. My husband use to do all this but I'm divorced so trying to figure it out for myself
@@sabrinafelix2511 I haven't tried this, just used my noggin. Good to hear, you're a good mom. I would try to explain it to you but I'm sure theres a video that could show you better than I could explain 😂. Look up "park tool" they have plenty of bike maintenance videos. Im sure you'll find it simple.
Just take an old leather belt super glue it to the inside of your tire all the way around nice perfect and you're good to go trust me it works better than you think
For ag equipment you can get custom made liners of a hard plastic. The liners only fit a specific size tire. You could probably make a liner with fiberglass, but at some point you might want a solid foam filled tire.
I think it is a great idea, but I think I am going to go with the tannus. I have a 2019 Montague Paratrooper I converted to an E-MTB with a Bafang Mid Drive BBSHD. I am disabled and this bike gets me places faster then walking and I feel like a little kid LOL. Rails to Trails, Great Organization, When I was in the hospital having open heart surgery in december, one of the nurses heard I am into cycling and told me about a converted old train route that a section was converted to a paved walking/biking route. Well I saw that people are riding along the old tracks that haven't been converted yet and there are lots of broken glass (old beer bottles) all over the place so I figure it is only a matter of time till I get a flat... so Tannus it is!
That's using your noodle! I still use an old tire that I cut off the sidewalls and use as a tire liner. I first did it when I was a kid back in the 1970's. I found it is best to use an older inner tube to protect the inner tube from the rough edges of the old cut tire that is used as a liner.
I had a wheel that would constantly get flats. It seemed smooth and fine. Used baby powder etc. I did this with a portion of old tibe that was cut from the nip. Ripped out the old valve of course. Double layer around the valve. But so far seems to have fixed the chronically flat wheel.
A pair (set with tubes) of Tannus is $95.99 as of 11/15/21. I've installed them on my MTB, Gravel, and ebike and they work perfectly. Your hack is a good alternative when money is tight. Good tip!
Installed Tannus w/o a tube just to see what it would feel like. Feels like a 20-25 PSI low tire that would still get me to my destination if needed. Can't wait until it is warm enough to commute on it again. No ragrets. Would recommend.
Old video 2 years old. But I thank you so much. Just looking through videos on fixing flats, I come across your video. Okay, cool, interesting to know. Today I go to do the laundry. I’m using my Retrospec cargo trailer. I’m in the laundromat when there’s a gunshot outside which turns out to be the inner tube on one wheel exploding. The is not repairing it. However, I recall this video. I walk to the corner where there’s a Walgreens, and they have pool noodles for $2. I but a pool noodle and a pack of scissors, the total was under $8. I take the 16” wheel off. Sit in the laundry and stuff about a third of the pool noodle into the wheel. Ride home at my typical speeds, no issues. It would have never occurred to me to do that fix if not for this two year old video. Thank you sir.
I anticipated that would happen, as not only is pipe insulation not that thick to start with, it COMPRESSES under pressure. I like the idea of using a leather belt, instead.
Lord bless and keep you. I am so plagued by flats it's worth a try! I still don't know how you crammed a pool noodle and.a tube into any tire! It boggles my mind. But at least you've given me some hope! Thanks brother!
Having 3 flats on my 20” x 4” fat tire e-bike led me to figure out a protection liner for the tube, as liners just don’t seem to be available. Wandering through Home Depot in search of a material to make a liner. Managed to get a piece of PVC vertical blind material that was scrap. I cut it to narrow it some so it fit and set inside the tire nicely, and held it in place with a few thin strips of duct tape. Nice and smooth and punctures will be no longer!
@@c2thew Nothing written aside from what I wrote above. No flats since either! The pvc vertical blind material was the right flexibility, width and thickness. I also added slime in the inner-tube, as I was not, under any circumstance, getting a flat again. Got the whole CO2 charging system to fill them if needed. pssssssssssssttttt no more!
Every tire I mount I pump about a half a bottle of slime into them. Had a 16 penny nail go clear through one side to the other on a fat tire, pulled the nail out and slime held and got me home. Great idea with the noodles perhaps need to pre cut noodle and insert tube before stuffing into tire use duct tape to hold noodle in loop form. I will try this later I have tons of tire, tubes and rims from building E-bike conversions. Nothing but good on you, Thanks for the video.
Great idea if you like to pedal with one third more effort. Just use puncture resistant tubes. Funny, all the pool noodles I've seen are solid. Once bought a greenspeed gt3 with tyre inserts (plastic). They caused 2 punctures (sharp edges) causing me to take them out and bin them. Never had a puncture since.
Just found out the tread from a treadmill works like a dream. That plus a pool noodle means no pinch flats and punctures. Though you sacrifice weight for protection
Idea; SOAK the insert in VERY WARM WATER prior to inserting the Tannus product before installation will make it much easier to work with. Even if you do live in a hot climate. BTW, the pool noodle idea is great but you're not the first one to use it. Just the FIRST ONE to make a video about it. The "Run Flat" tire we used in the HUMVEE is a similar product. You can SHOOT a tire and make it home! PS, Pool Noodles do not come in black. That's pipe insulation
You should try using water pipe insulation which is pre-sliced so that you can wrap it around a water pipe to prevent the pipe from freezing. When inserting, ensure the sliced opening is toward the rim. Cost per foot is probably more, but you can purchase the exact length that you need and often they come in different thicknesses; such as would be needed on a 4-inch fat tire. To determine length, extend a tape measure around the circumference (perimeter) of your tire to get total length of the noodle OR calculate the tire diameter times PI. DO NOT use the wheel diameter times PI as you will come up short every time! When the noodle is fitted inside the tire you MAY need to insert a thinner tube. That is, instead of a 26"x4" fat tire tube, you may have to install a 26"x2.75" tube, keeping the SAME INSIDE DIAMETER OF THE ORIGINAL TUBE!
@@johndenver5029 That would depend on the diameter of your wheel. 20", 22", 24", 26", etc... What you can do is take a tape measure and determine the full distance around the outer circumference of your currently mounted tire. The result should be the MINIMUM length of noodle/insulation that you purchase; you can always cut it shorter to fit, but you can not make it longer if too short. Remember that you will be cutting the ends at an angle to make the foam fit properly, making one overlap/underlap the other to long flexing. Remember that this only works with a tubeless system.
If you put the tube in the pipe wrap first (slit facing out) then put it inside the tyre...there would be no pinch problem and full protection at the rim.
For that added sidewall protection against pinch flats have you tried using that fancy knife to cut a taper along the slit in the pool noodle (actually it’s pipe insulation but I know…pool noodle just sounds much cooler).
The problem with double tubes, or any other strip inside, is that it can slide while it rolls, and maybe move the valve of the tube off center, and with much pressing in can cut the tube at the base of the valve. The best hack for me so far is the Slime inside the tube.
@@entltyq I dont know... i have only used it in a fat-tire bike so far... and it works good... but i guess it would work the same in any size. The other method i used before was to take a part of a seat-belt of a car, and use it between the tire and the tube.... it worked good too.... but after each ride i had to re-adjust the tube cause it was sliding inside the tire, and the valve was not sitting straight on the valve-hole.
What about using rubber tubular pipe insulation? Seems like it would be a better choice. Especially considering that one of its traits is that it's self-sealing. Which the foam doesn't do.
Man, getting the Tannus in the first time was a pain but only one flat the first year! It was a staple that went all the way through the armor into the tube. But literally hundreds if not thousands of goat heads and a screw and nail I have pulled out of my tire yet no flats. I ride to work so I need that security.
I bought a pair of Tannus liners and was never able to get them to fit my wheels. Too small to even fit over the rim. 😢 Gonna try the noodle because I need the protection somehow.
I used to wrap my old punctured inner tubes around my new inner tubes and double the thickness but... You had to chalk in between them and if it rained and you lost pressure in your tyres then it was game over.
"Pool noodles" and foam pipe insulation are low density. Tannus Armour is a much higher density. How many realistic miles can you get on this hack before it deteriorates?
I did this with pipe insulation and after 200 miles, the foam was completely flat. I've run the tannus armor for 500 miles and took it off to change my tire and the armor still has some width to it.
@@nicolasjan1584 that might work but not sure how it would do with being able to run lower pressures, side wall support, and pinch flats. The armor is supposed to help with those things. I mean I'm running my front tubes at 20 psi with the armor and I still have good sidewall support and stiffness and haven't had a pinch flat yet
i was thinking or trying this a long time ago but didnt know how long it would last. i guess it depends on how high grade the noodle might be. iv had some noodles last for ever and some just crumble after a few uses in the pool.. i also did what you did with a 2nd tire. i would take and old downhill tube and used volcanizing rubber glue and glue the old tube into the tire.
Just wondering if there is a product ( similar to a pool noodle consistency ) that can completely eliminate the inner tube all together and eliminate flat tires for good? A "solid" tire if you will.
Tannus makes a solid airless tire. Foam rubber material similar to your shoe soles. Reviews say they have a harsh feel and increase rolling resistance.
Hello Mike: Pool Noodle and Armour versus Schwalbe Marathon Plus, Continental Contact Plus - all the tires with extra (Plus) puncture protection would be interesting. Which one roll better? How about snake bites? How about installation? How about the weight? Which ones offer the better puncture protection? Which tires and combinations last longer? I'm rolling on Conti Contact Travel Plus 700x35C on paved and gravel roads. They roll great and zero flats. Also good against snake bites. Easy to mount.
Congrats on the new addition to the family Mike 👊🏻 great video could you do a video showing the best/easiest/cheapest ways to make your bike as light as possible without compromising on strength and stability think a lot of people would be interested in that one I know I would for sure 🤙🏻
I saw your comment about using pipe insulation instead of pool noodles as they were out of the latter when you were purchasing. So, I looked them up and came up with this: They are both made of foam, but pool noodles are usually denser than foam pipe insulation. What is the difference between pool noodles and pipe insulation? Pool noodles are made from polyethylene, while pipe insulation is made from polyurethane foam. Pool noodles are softer and more flexible than pipe insulation. Ultimately, I don't know if one is better than the other, but they are definitely not the same thing. I guess it would require a test to see if one is more easily penetrated by a nail or drill.
It's polyethylene pipe insulation. 20x4 Fat Tire Ebike tire, I split the noodle and turned it inside out and lined the tire. I downsized the tube to a Slime tube 20x1.75-2.00 and inflated to 35 posted psi. Total cost $18 per tire.
We are not allowed to own knives like that in Australia because we are all little children and we have government parents telling us we cant own knives like that. On another note, The weather here in Western Australia is awesome, it was 38c (100f) today in the first month of Autumn.
How is it compared to that liquid slime stuff? I know the slime can be heavy and I’ve heard it can make the tires balance feel weird if you get a puncture while using it.
If after installing the pool noodle hack you leave your bike sitting for a day or two in the same spot or position. Will the tire develop a flat spot on that part of the tire that was making contact with the ground as is sat? The pool Noodle is a lower density foam so it stands to reason that a flat spot may occur but, I don't really know. What I do know is that buying a pool Noodle is a whole lot cheaper than buying the Tannus stuff; even though the Tannus is made for this application.
i figured out the cutting up a old tube and placing it in my mtb in 10th grade after i kept getting flats and didnt have alot of money to keep buying tubes
Idk much on bikes so this may be a stupid question but since the pool noodle takes up pretty much all the room in the tire would there be a point/need for the inner-tube?
Hey! I like that you’re here even if you don’t know much about bikes. No question is stupid. If the tire and rim are tubeless compatible together then you don’t need a tube. You’d need sealant fluid and some air. This would be for people who are looking for the quick hack to avoid flats while they save up for a new rim and tire setup, or if they go for a more permanent insert. Thanks for stopping by and if you have any other questions, feel free to chat with me on Instagram, Facebook or Snapchat. 🤘🏽🇺🇸
Gotcha thank you for the info because I'm building my daughter a bike, well parts from a few bikes to make hers. I found 2 fat wide rims and tires but one wont stay inflated .I really dont want to settle with normal tires nor paying 40 bucks for a tube. Which I'll behonest I'm cheap ,I always say I can build that fir cheaper or figure away to .
awesome. subscribed. teach this old Norwegian. folding fat 20" and no drivers license so... let the spring begin the right way and lets put on some miles....
Cable protection covers, tapetiles and underground warning tapes are the bomb if you don't wanna get a punture,, nothing will penetrate it,, You just have to do the job yourself,,
Oh yea! My oldest goes into kindergarten in a few weeks and it feels like yesterday she was born. Thanks for your support and taking the time to comment 🙏🏽
If you got a heavy e bike n 4 inch width tires, i recommend doing the extra things to keep from getting flats more My e bike weighs around 70 pounds without my stuff on it, i got more weight with stuff in my baskets i carry, this includes two 3/8 chains at 2 feet long with 2 heavy duty locks n one 5/16 chain at 6 foot long when i got to lock it up to bigger things like a thick tree I got a few flats n one time it was a slow leak n i put green slime 8 oz in n it fixed it, another time i got a bigger hole n green slime took care of it for awhile but went flat sometimes, then one day green slime wouldn't seal it, it went flat n i hard a hard time with this situation of a heavy bike with a flat, people a heavy ebike with 4 inch tires n a flat isnt so easy to walk n roll it back home if you are far away, also on my ebike 26×4 inch tires they are a lot harder to put on rim once you get a flat, but i learned a trick to put some air in tube then tires will stay on rim better once you start getting tire on n then put more air in n tire will stay on then pump all the way up n keep eye on sides so tube dont come out of tire in some places, i had to use my 6 foot chain n lock to a tree branch n on my back rack on ebike to lift off ground to take care of flat temporary- flat was on back tire, sometimes I i use a tie rachet strap to lift tire off ground also, i also carry a foot pump, i was able to get tire back on n air in tube n green slime held air in it long enough to ride a little bit then stopped n pumped up again before going to flat, on my bike if it goes to flat tires comes off n is hard to put back on n forget putting it back on if hole in tube is to big n wont stay pumped up some for little while I almost had to call a uber truck or rent a uhual van to get bike back People carry 1 or 2 bottles of 8 ounce green slime n make sure they didnt expire n are no good anymore, carry good pump, extra valve stems, one time after putting green slime in it clogged valve stem when i tried to air up n air wouldn't go in n i had to replace valve stem, n small needle nose pliers n steel long valve stem remover- one time plastic valve stem remover on green slime bottle broke trying to take valve stem out Now on my ebike i got big back baskets to carry this stuff to fix flats, i got the wald 535 18 inch baskets n cut them in half n strapped to my heavy duty 3/8 steel back rack I also carry fix flat stuff on my small bike but just a hand pump- green slimmed saved me on that bike also
Dude , all that sounds like a big pain in the ass. As far as fixing a flat. Hold your back brake lever and pull the bike straight back and gradually walk the handle bars down to the ground. Now the bike is upside down resting on the handle bars and the basket or seat. Both wheels in the air and can work at waist level taking wheel off to fix flat.
In Salt Lake City Utah the place of the greatest snow on Earth has no snow in the valley and got to about 60 to today. The resorts are open and there is snows in the mountains. Utah gets hit from every direction from almost every storm in the country a little bit so when Texas got snow we got our first snow of the year and now spring is here and mountain bike season is unfolding in front of me
Having a fat tire ebike I got copious amounts of flats until I bought tannus armor I still got some flats but not nearly as mint many as before. I kind of wish I would try the pool noodle first as it's a lot cheaper...
do you remember “double bagging” bmx tires from the late 90s-2000s? i used to cut the besd off of my old bmx tires like primo v monsters and feeding into my primo wall tire. damn near indestructible but heavy as hell especially with running a 2.25 mil thick tube. i wish all of this was available back then lol
I haven't looked back since getting tannus armor. The only thing I need a hack for is how to protect my stem valve. Even by putting tape on the edges of the stem hole in the rim, I still end up with guillotined valve stems
You need to put a small box around it, made of hard plastic or metal or something. Idk anything about bikes, but it sounds like it just needs protected from something hitting it hard.
Interesting. There is information "out there" to NOT tighten stem nuts hard to the rim, leave a quarter inch, and the second nut to lock in place. I am experimenting, but I think I am torquing the stem, encouraging guillotining. Just a thought
hey ma might have missed it - did u use a 20" tube + foam insulation on a 26" wheel? what i heard is you could use same size tube + foam but use a thinner width tube?
Hello Mike, Where online can I find the Pool Noodle Foam? I need it for two Fat Tires. What size (Diameter) Pool Noodle were you using in the Video. Thanks and Great Video!!!!!!!
I used to run a tyre (with the sidewalls cut off) in a tyre on the rear. Rarely got a flat after that and it stopped me pinching the tube when I was casing spines like a nubcake.
I can't believe this never occurred to me. I was close to though, does that count? When I grew to 16" and 20" I hated having to constantly do patches. My old foam tire 12" was the shit 😎👌. Anyways... I eventually did use double tubes and/or thick tubes. I graduated in 2000 and since then I've stuck with thick tubes and tire liner.
My weather been freezing rain to snow. Now a little better just rain but wind makes the rain freezing cold I biked to work and the rain made it horrible since the wind made it freezing.
Shoot my normal hack is 6 to 8 pumps of slime before I even install a new tire. It used to work on my 2.15x20's but since I moved up to the softer landing 2.35x20's the tires woodland camo cult tires I'm running must be thinner than my last set of tires...which I haven't tacoed any rims in a while but damn do they go flat easy.
Congrats Fede being a dad is so awesome and one question was that a pool noodle or can you use pipe insulator?
Much appreciated! I used to use pool noodles but since were out of season right now they only have a 4 foot long ones and not 6 foot. In this video are used pipe insulator which is basically the exact same thing. You can get them pre-slit or solid. This cost like $2.18 I think.
Thank you for this tip
Hi. It is pipe insulation.
I have a question. Does this work
It probably works to a point. It depends on the length of the projectile and as for glass ingress I wouldn't hazard a guess. At least it's something you can try to prevent flats. I may just try this trick. Better nothin.
Baby powder is super helpful for manipulating tubes inside the tire.
Im pretty sure that is piping insulation which is why it comes preslit they sell that at like home depot n menards
Yup!! They had non slit too
Hahaha I just committed along those lines an the insulation might withstand puncture ab be more flexible than pool noodles.
@@bryanfelix1462 shut up .
Family Dollar sells those slitted pool noodles for $1 even.
@@MikeFede They had non-slit insulation tubes??
What a trip. I'm a contractor. I've never seen that before.
Put the tube in the noodle, then the noodle in the tire, then the tire on the rim.
Right I thought that's what he did then he started adding the tube I was like??? Wouldn't it be easier to put the tube in the noodle and then put it on and inflate it.... Have you tried this? This my first time changing a bike tire. It's for my son. My husband use to do all this but I'm divorced so trying to figure it out for myself
@@sabrinafelix2511 I haven't tried this, just used my noggin. Good to hear, you're a good mom. I would try to explain it to you but I'm sure theres a video that could show you better than I could explain 😂. Look up "park tool" they have plenty of bike maintenance videos. Im sure you'll find it simple.
Just take an old leather belt super glue it to the inside of your tire all the way around nice perfect and you're good to go trust me it works better than you think
Which kind of super glue do you suggest? Brand? Gorilla glue?
thats actually pretty smart. leather would probably stop a roofing tac actually. glass.. goatheads, no problem. gona use the belt method. thanks man.
For ag equipment you can get custom made liners of a hard plastic. The liners only fit a specific size tire. You could probably make a liner with fiberglass, but at some point you might want a solid foam filled tire.
So it does work im going do it
Lol wow I never thought of doing that.
We would just double up on tires in the old days. Never caught a flat tire even when the outer tire wore out. The bike fell apart before the tires did
I think it is a great idea, but I think I am going to go with the tannus. I have a 2019 Montague Paratrooper I converted to an E-MTB with a Bafang Mid Drive BBSHD. I am disabled and this bike gets me places faster then walking and I feel like a little kid LOL. Rails to Trails, Great Organization, When I was in the hospital having open heart surgery in december, one of the nurses heard I am into cycling and told me about a converted old train route that a section was converted to a paved walking/biking route. Well I saw that people are riding along the old tracks that haven't been converted yet and there are lots of broken glass (old beer bottles) all over the place so I figure it is only a matter of time till I get a flat... so Tannus it is!
That's using your noodle! I still use an old tire that I cut off the sidewalls and use as a tire liner. I first did it when I was a kid back in the 1970's. I found it is best to use an older inner tube to protect the inner tube from the rough edges of the old cut tire that is used as a liner.
Great hack! We’ve all got old inner tubes, and some may have old tires. Repurposing & reusing will always be the best solutions, whenever possible.
I had a wheel that would constantly get flats. It seemed smooth and fine. Used baby powder etc.
I did this with a portion of old tibe that was cut from the nip. Ripped out the old valve of course. Double layer around the valve. But so far seems to have fixed the chronically flat wheel.
A pair (set with tubes) of Tannus is $95.99 as of 11/15/21. I've installed them on my MTB, Gravel, and ebike and they work perfectly. Your hack is a good alternative when money is tight. Good tip!
Installed Tannus w/o a tube just to see what it would feel like. Feels like a 20-25 PSI low tire that would still get me to my destination if needed. Can't wait until it is warm enough to commute on it again. No ragrets. Would recommend.
When you do 37mls a day like I do you will realise it's rubbish, it compressed to 6mm thick,and caused rubbing punctures,even though I used talc
Old video 2 years old. But I thank you so much.
Just looking through videos on fixing flats, I come across your video. Okay, cool, interesting to know.
Today I go to do the laundry. I’m using my Retrospec cargo trailer.
I’m in the laundromat when there’s a gunshot outside which turns out to be the inner tube on one wheel exploding.
The is not repairing it.
However, I recall this video. I walk to the corner where there’s a Walgreens, and they have pool noodles for $2.
I but a pool noodle and a pack of scissors, the total was under $8.
I take the 16” wheel off. Sit in the laundry and stuff about a third of the pool noodle into the wheel.
Ride home at my typical speeds, no issues.
It would have never occurred to me to do that fix if not for this two year old video.
Thank you sir.
I surely can't be the only one who thought you were gonna stab the tire itself with the knife, lol.
Tried it and got a flat. When I took the noodle out to fix the tube, it was as thin as paper. I just put an old tire inside and so far so good.
That works really well.
I anticipated that would happen, as not only is pipe insulation not that thick to start with, it COMPRESSES under pressure. I like the idea of using a leather belt, instead.
Wouldn't it be easier to put the tube into the pipe insulation first?
Lord bless and keep you. I am so plagued by flats it's worth a try! I still don't know how you crammed a pool noodle and.a tube into any tire! It boggles my mind. But at least you've given me some hope! Thanks brother!
Having 3 flats on my 20” x 4” fat tire e-bike led me to figure out a protection liner for the tube, as liners just don’t seem to be available. Wandering through Home Depot in search of a material to make a liner. Managed to get a piece of PVC vertical blind material that was scrap. I cut it to narrow it some so it fit and set inside the tire nicely, and held it in place with a few thin strips of duct tape. Nice and smooth and punctures will be no longer!
Do you have a forum post of how your diy hack? You used a long plastic blind correct?
@@c2thew Nothing written aside from what I wrote above. No flats since either! The pvc vertical blind material was the right flexibility, width and thickness. I also added slime in the inner-tube, as I was not, under any circumstance, getting a flat again. Got the whole CO2 charging system to fill them if needed.
pssssssssssssttttt no more!
Every tire I mount I pump about a half a bottle of slime into them. Had a 16 penny nail go clear through one side to the other on a fat tire, pulled the nail out and slime held and got me home. Great idea with the noodles perhaps need to pre cut noodle and insert tube before stuffing into tire use duct tape to hold noodle in loop form. I will try this later I have tons of tire, tubes and rims from building E-bike conversions. Nothing but good on you, Thanks for the video.
Great idea if you like to pedal with one third more effort. Just use puncture resistant tubes. Funny, all the pool noodles I've seen are solid. Once bought a greenspeed gt3 with tyre inserts (plastic). They caused 2 punctures (sharp edges) causing me to take them out and bin them. Never had a puncture since.
LOVE THIS HACK I'VE GOTTON 2 FLATS WITHIN 3 DAYS. I'MMA TRY GETTING A POOL NOODLE FROM THE DOLLAR TREE.
Why are you yelling??
Just found out the tread from a treadmill works like a dream. That plus a pool noodle means no pinch flats and punctures. Though you sacrifice weight for protection
Idea; SOAK the insert in VERY WARM WATER prior to inserting the Tannus product before installation will make it much easier to work with. Even if you do live in a hot climate. BTW, the pool noodle idea is great but you're not the first one to use it. Just the FIRST ONE to make a video about it. The "Run Flat" tire we used in the HUMVEE is a similar product. You can SHOOT a tire and make it home!
PS, Pool Noodles do not come in black. That's pipe insulation
When I change new tires, I set in sun for 2 hours and it's easier to work the bead.
You should try using water pipe insulation which is pre-sliced so that you can wrap it around a water pipe to prevent the pipe from freezing. When inserting, ensure the sliced opening is toward the rim. Cost per foot is probably more, but you can purchase the exact length that you need and often they come in different thicknesses; such as would be needed on a 4-inch fat tire. To determine length, extend a tape measure around the circumference (perimeter) of your tire to get total length of the noodle OR calculate the tire diameter times PI. DO NOT use the wheel diameter times PI as you will come up short every time! When the noodle is fitted inside the tire you MAY need to insert a thinner tube. That is, instead of a 26"x4" fat tire tube, you may have to install a 26"x2.75" tube, keeping the SAME INSIDE DIAMETER OF THE ORIGINAL TUBE!
He is using pipe insulation - it’s not a pool noodle
@@Greeves came here looking for this comment. :)
Tannus Armour recommends the same method.
What diameter noodle or tannus or pipe insulation for a 4inch fat tire?
@@johndenver5029 That would depend on the diameter of your wheel. 20", 22", 24", 26", etc... What you can do is take a tape measure and determine the full distance around the outer circumference of your currently mounted tire. The result should be the MINIMUM length of noodle/insulation that you purchase; you can always cut it shorter to fit, but you can not make it longer if too short. Remember that you will be cutting the ends at an angle to make the foam fit properly, making one overlap/underlap the other to long flexing. Remember that this only works with a tubeless system.
Having the camera on what you are doing would be helpful.
Ditto.
Right! I am leaving, and downvoting this video, even though I am interested in the subject.
Was thinking the same thing. Wish I could see exactly what your doing.
He put a pool noodle around a rim. It's not rocket science
@@Myaccisbanned possibly.
Nice DIY! Thanks! I'm going with puncture resistant tires & tubes, Tannus Armour,. Flat Out, and a kevlar tire liner for my hunting bike. :D
And TPU inner tubes
Very cool hack, I’ve got Minesweepers in my MTB tires & love running tubeless.
I ALWAYS get punctures and have always wondered if something like this would be possible. Awesome video, thanks
2 innnertubes+ pucture repair kit + pump + tyre levers in the bag and you are prepared for many puctures
Yellow or Blue plastic they wrap boxes with ,put that inside tyre ,its as good as a kevlar strip
Congratulations on your new baby!
If you put the tube in the pipe wrap first (slit facing out) then put it inside the tyre...there would be no pinch problem and full protection at the rim.
For that added sidewall protection against pinch flats have you tried using that fancy knife to cut a taper along the slit in the pool noodle (actually it’s pipe insulation but I know…pool noodle just sounds much cooler).
I still double tube my tubes I know it adds weight but I used to get flats a lot and that saved me
The problem with double tubes, or any other strip inside, is that it can slide while it rolls, and maybe move the valve of the tube off center, and with much pressing in can cut the tube at the base of the valve.
The best hack for me so far is the Slime inside the tube.
@@v4v777 Hey, would you recommend tire Slime for use in a thin or thick tube? Which combo is effective and efficient?
@@entltyq I dont know... i have only used it in a fat-tire bike so far... and it works good... but i guess it would work the same in any size.
The other method i used before was to take a part of a seat-belt of a car, and use it between the tire and the tube.... it worked good too.... but after each ride i had to re-adjust the tube cause it was sliding inside the tire, and the valve was not sitting straight on the valve-hole.
@@v4v777 That's pretty cool, man! I like that idea with the seatbelt - it might be something I'll try soon enough. 💯👍
"that's not a valve stem deflator, THIS is a valve stem deflator" 😂
Congrats on the new baby, brother ♥️🐾
What about using rubber tubular pipe insulation? Seems like it would be a better choice. Especially considering that one of its traits is that it's self-sealing. Which the foam doesn't do.
I tried the pipe insulation (black foam/rubber type) and it compressed to the thickness of paper after a few days and was a complete waste of time.
Man, getting the Tannus in the first time was a pain but only one flat the first year! It was a staple that went all the way through the armor into the tube. But literally hundreds if not thousands of goat heads and a screw and nail I have pulled out of my tire yet no flats. I ride to work so I need that security.
Man. I freaking hate flats. If this works well it would be a dream come true
Nice video Mike! Our Tannus Armour Inserts are a nice welcomed upgrade for all bikes. Love the review! Cheers
I bought a pair of Tannus liners and was never able to get them to fit my wheels. Too small to even fit over the rim. 😢 Gonna try the noodle because I need the protection somehow.
@@SilverFox80521 Our tire insert Aither material does have some stretch. What size were you installing? Happy to look into it for you
I used to wrap my old punctured inner tubes around my new inner tubes and double the thickness but... You had to chalk in between them and if it rained and you lost pressure in your tyres then it was game over.
Congrats Fede!! I remember doing the double tube trick to try and prevent flats! Lol
Congratulations. My daughter was just born Thursday the 25th
I would imagine you could use Flatout (tire sealant) as a extra precautionary measure in case you hit a nail or something like it.
Congratulations! Make sure we are telling our boys how special it is to be boys!
Great video.
That's pipe insulation... not a pool noodle... that's why it's pre-slit!
"Pool noodles" and foam pipe insulation are low density. Tannus Armour is a much higher density. How many realistic miles can you get on this hack before it deteriorates?
I did this with pipe insulation and after 200 miles, the foam was completely flat. I've run the tannus armor for 500 miles and took it off to change my tire and the armor still has some width to it.
So why not simply put a second small tire?
@@nicolasjan1584 that might work but not sure how it would do with being able to run lower pressures, side wall support, and pinch flats. The armor is supposed to help with those things. I mean I'm running my front tubes at 20 psi with the armor and I still have good sidewall support and stiffness and haven't had a pinch flat yet
Thanks, Mike. Just ordered a Ravencrest Tanto.
i was thinking or trying this a long time ago but didnt know how long it would last. i guess it depends on how high grade the noodle might be. iv had some noodles last for ever and some just crumble after a few uses in the pool.. i also did what you did with a 2nd tire. i would take and old downhill tube and used volcanizing rubber glue and glue the old tube into the tire.
Just wondering if there is a product ( similar to a pool noodle consistency ) that can completely eliminate the inner tube all together and eliminate flat tires for good? A "solid" tire if you will.
Tannus makes a solid airless tire. Foam rubber material similar to your shoe soles. Reviews say they have a harsh feel and increase rolling resistance.
Has anyone told this dude that is not a pool noodle...its pipe insulation foam, pool noodles are like 4 inch diameter
@@sitoudien9816 Just like on some escooter solid foam tires.
Weathers great. Sunny and warm in seaside Oregon
Hello Mike: Pool Noodle and Armour versus Schwalbe Marathon Plus, Continental Contact Plus - all the tires with extra (Plus) puncture protection would be interesting. Which one roll better? How about snake bites? How about installation? How about the weight? Which ones offer the better puncture protection? Which tires and combinations last longer? I'm rolling on Conti Contact Travel Plus 700x35C on paved and gravel roads. They roll great and zero flats. Also good against snake bites. Easy to mount.
I don't know if you can get a Nobel Peace Prize for a hack, but you ought to be considered...
Congrats on the new addition to the family Mike 👊🏻 great video could you do a video showing the best/easiest/cheapest ways to make your bike as light as possible without compromising on strength and stability think a lot of people would be interested in that one I know I would for sure 🤙🏻
Congratulations on the new Little Fede.
I saw your comment about using pipe insulation instead of pool noodles as they were out of the latter when you were purchasing. So, I looked them up and came up with this: They are both made of foam, but pool noodles are usually denser than foam pipe insulation. What is the difference between pool noodles and pipe insulation? Pool noodles are made from polyethylene, while pipe insulation is made from polyurethane foam. Pool noodles are softer and more flexible than pipe insulation. Ultimately, I don't know if one is better than the other, but they are definitely not the same thing. I guess it would require a test to see if one is more easily penetrated by a nail or drill.
I tried the pipe insulation (black foam/rubber type) and it compressed to the thickness of paper after a few days and was a complete waste of time.
It's polyethylene pipe insulation. 20x4 Fat Tire Ebike tire, I split the noodle and turned it inside out and lined the tire. I downsized the tube to a Slime tube 20x1.75-2.00 and inflated to 35 posted psi.
Total cost $18 per tire.
We are not allowed to own knives like that in Australia because we are all little children and we have government parents telling us we cant own knives like that. On another note, The weather here in Western Australia is awesome, it was 38c (100f) today in the first month of Autumn.
The already slit ones from the hardware store are sold as pipe insulation to prevent freezing pipes.
How is it compared to that liquid slime stuff? I know the slime can be heavy and I’ve heard it can make the tires balance feel weird if you get a puncture while using it.
hi, Mike what size is the noodle, also can I use it in a mountain bike size 26 tire?
If after installing the pool noodle hack you leave your bike sitting for a day or two in the same spot or position. Will the tire develop a flat spot on that part of the tire that was making contact with the ground as is sat?
The pool Noodle is a lower density foam so it stands to reason that a flat spot may occur but, I don't really know. What I do know is that buying a pool Noodle is a whole lot cheaper than buying the Tannus stuff; even though the Tannus is made for this application.
i figured out the cutting up a old tube and placing it in my mtb in 10th grade after i kept getting flats and didnt have alot of money to keep buying tubes
So if you were using a 4” fat tire would you use a standard size 2.25” wide tube?
Idk much on bikes so this may be a stupid question but since the pool noodle takes up pretty much all the room in the tire would there be a point/need for the inner-tube?
Hey!
I like that you’re here even if you don’t know much about bikes. No question is stupid. If the tire and rim are tubeless compatible together then you don’t need a tube. You’d need sealant fluid and some air. This would be for people who are looking for the quick hack to avoid flats while they save up for a new rim and tire setup, or if they go for a more permanent insert. Thanks for stopping by and if you have any other questions, feel free to chat with me on Instagram, Facebook or Snapchat. 🤘🏽🇺🇸
Gotcha thank you for the info because I'm building my daughter a bike, well parts from a few bikes to make hers. I found 2 fat wide rims and tires but one wont stay inflated .I really dont want to settle with normal tires nor paying 40 bucks for a tube. Which I'll behonest I'm cheap ,I always say I can build that fir cheaper or figure away to .
That’s awesome! If you need any help with finding extra parts or tips on how to fix something feel free to message me.🤘🏽
My hack i use an old tire and insert it inside the main tire works like a charm.
Hah i might just try this. TheTannus looks awesome but it is expensive. I just ordered liners and sealant, but might have to give this a try
awesome. subscribed. teach this old Norwegian. folding fat 20" and no drivers license so... let the spring begin the right way and lets put on some miles....
You can cut pool noodles with a clean cut by using an electric kitchen carving knife,the twin blades cut clean. Some brands cut better than others😮😊
Congratulations to you and the family!
Cable protection covers, tapetiles and underground warning tapes are the bomb if you don't wanna get a punture,, nothing will penetrate it,,
You just have to do the job yourself,,
I know I'm a little late but CONGRATULATIONS on your new baby.
🙏🏽Thanks! Getting big and running around now🤘🏽
@@MikeFede enjoy it while you can kid's grow up so fast.
Oh yea! My oldest goes into kindergarten in a few weeks and it feels like yesterday she was born. Thanks for your support and taking the time to comment 🙏🏽
If you got a heavy e bike n 4 inch width tires, i recommend doing the extra things to keep from getting flats more
My e bike weighs around 70 pounds without my stuff on it, i got more weight with stuff in my baskets i carry, this includes two 3/8 chains at 2 feet long with 2 heavy duty locks n one 5/16 chain at 6 foot long when i got to lock it up to bigger things like a thick tree
I got a few flats n one time it was a slow leak n i put green slime 8 oz in n it fixed it, another time i got a bigger hole n green slime took care of it for awhile but went flat sometimes, then one day green slime wouldn't seal it, it went flat n i hard a hard time with this situation of a heavy bike with a flat, people a heavy ebike with 4 inch tires n a flat isnt so easy to walk n roll it back home if you are far away, also on my ebike 26×4 inch tires they are a lot harder to put on rim once you get a flat, but i learned a trick to put some air in tube then tires will stay on rim better once you start getting tire on n then put more air in n tire will stay on then pump all the way up n keep eye on sides so tube dont come out of tire in some places, i had to use my 6 foot chain n lock to a tree branch n on my back rack on ebike to lift off ground to take care of flat temporary- flat was on back tire, sometimes I i use a tie rachet strap to lift tire off ground also, i also carry a foot pump, i was able to get tire back on n air in tube n green slime held air in it long enough to ride a little bit then stopped n pumped up again before going to flat, on my bike if it goes to flat tires comes off n is hard to put back on n forget putting it back on if hole in tube is to big n wont stay pumped up some for little while
I almost had to call a uber truck or rent a uhual van to get bike back
People carry 1 or 2 bottles of 8 ounce green slime n make sure they didnt expire n are no good anymore, carry good pump, extra valve stems, one time after putting green slime in it clogged valve stem when i tried to air up n air wouldn't go in n i had to replace valve stem, n small needle nose pliers n steel long valve stem remover- one time plastic valve stem remover on green slime bottle broke trying to take valve stem out
Now on my ebike i got big back baskets to carry this stuff to fix flats, i got the wald 535 18 inch baskets n cut them in half n strapped to my heavy duty 3/8 steel back rack
I also carry fix flat stuff on my small bike but just a hand pump- green slimmed saved me on that bike also
Dude , all that sounds like a big pain in the ass. As far as fixing a flat. Hold your back brake lever and pull the bike straight back and gradually walk the handle bars down to the ground. Now the bike is upside down resting on the handle bars and the basket or seat. Both wheels in the air and can work at waist level taking wheel off to fix flat.
You don't have walk mode on your bike?
Have you also considered filling your inner tubes with sealant for triple protection?
In Salt Lake City Utah the place of the greatest snow on Earth has no snow in the valley and got to about 60 to today. The resorts are open and there is snows in the mountains. Utah gets hit from every direction from almost every storm in the country a little bit so when Texas got snow we got our first snow of the year and now spring is here and mountain bike season is unfolding in front of me
Hey Mr tuffy liner $8. Badass combine this with that. NEVER A FLAT
I'm looking for a pair of used old school tan wall Tioga Comp Pool III tires in black. How much should I expect to pay? Thanks!
Why can't you put the slightly inflated tube in before you mount it on the wheel? I did that with Tanus multiple times with no problem.
Having a fat tire ebike I got copious amounts of flats until I bought tannus armor I still got some flats but not nearly as mint many as before. I kind of wish I would try the pool noodle first as it's a lot cheaper...
do you remember “double bagging” bmx tires from the late 90s-2000s? i used to cut the besd off of my old bmx tires like primo v monsters and feeding into my primo wall tire. damn near indestructible but heavy as hell especially with running a 2.25 mil thick tube. i wish all of this was available back then lol
humpf... I'm still using this trick, 2021 ;)
Excellent video.Thank you 👏.
I put tannus on my fat tire e bike. Works great
Would this hack with the pool or pipe insulation work ok on 26 inch mountain bike tyres?
I haven't looked back since getting tannus armor. The only thing I need a hack for is how to protect my stem valve. Even by putting tape on the edges of the stem hole in the rim, I still end up with guillotined valve stems
You need to put a small box around it, made of hard plastic or metal or something. Idk anything about bikes, but it sounds like it just needs protected from something hitting it hard.
Interesting. There is information "out there" to NOT tighten stem nuts hard to the rim, leave a quarter inch, and the second nut to lock in place. I am experimenting, but I think I am torquing the stem, encouraging guillotining. Just a thought
Congratulations on having child #2! Hope all goes well buddy!
Yeah that pipe insulation is very different than most noodles
Just what i needed, Too add protection for my tires
hey ma might have missed it - did u use a 20" tube + foam insulation on a 26" wheel? what i heard is you could use same size tube + foam but use a thinner width tube?
What size tube to use for a 26in tire an answer be greatly appreciated
Congratulations on the baby/babies
Absolute genius my man
How about testing the Vittoria Airliner tire inserts? It seems like a really great product.
Congrats on baby #2!!! And good luck !!!
Would this work with 4 inch fat tires??
Hello Mike, Where online can I find the Pool Noodle Foam? I need it for two Fat Tires. What size (Diameter) Pool Noodle were you using in the Video. Thanks and Great Video!!!!!!!
I used to run a tyre (with the sidewalls cut off) in a tyre on the rear. Rarely got a flat after that and it stopped me pinching the tube when I was casing spines like a nubcake.
What size tire inside a tire?
@@lesterroberts1628 1.75"
@@kirkwickham3336 ok i was not expecting the same size to fit lol good to know
@@lesterroberts1628 If you cut the sidewalls off, any same-diameter tire will fit :)
Very interesting. Thanks.
tannus armor and QuickStrike Tire Sealant would be a beast for my bike
I can't believe this never occurred to me. I was close to though, does that count? When I grew to 16" and 20" I hated having to constantly do patches. My old foam tire 12" was the shit 😎👌.
Anyways... I eventually did use double tubes and/or thick tubes. I graduated in 2000 and since then I've stuck with thick tubes and tire liner.
Very awesome Keep it up Mike
My weather been freezing rain to snow. Now a little better just rain but wind makes the rain freezing cold I biked to work and the rain made it horrible since the wind made it freezing.
Shoot my normal hack is 6 to 8 pumps of slime before I even install a new tire. It used to work on my 2.15x20's but since I moved up to the softer landing 2.35x20's the tires woodland camo cult tires I'm running must be thinner than my last set of tires...which I haven't tacoed any rims in a while but damn do they go flat easy.
If there is a slit, it is actually a pipe insulator against winter weather
I have a 20 in 4in wide tube for an e-bike not sure this would work with that too tight