Much appreciated! I used to use pool noodles but since were out of season right now they only have a 4 foot long ones and not 6 foot. In this video are used pipe insulator which is basically the exact same thing. You can get them pre-slit or solid. This cost like $2.18 I think.
It probably works to a point. It depends on the length of the projectile and as for glass ingress I wouldn't hazard a guess. At least it's something you can try to prevent flats. I may just try this trick. Better nothin.
Right I thought that's what he did then he started adding the tube I was like??? Wouldn't it be easier to put the tube in the noodle and then put it on and inflate it.... Have you tried this? This my first time changing a bike tire. It's for my son. My husband use to do all this but I'm divorced so trying to figure it out for myself
@@sabrinafelix2511 I haven't tried this, just used my noggin. Good to hear, you're a good mom. I would try to explain it to you but I'm sure theres a video that could show you better than I could explain 😂. Look up "park tool" they have plenty of bike maintenance videos. Im sure you'll find it simple.
Just take an old leather belt super glue it to the inside of your tire all the way around nice perfect and you're good to go trust me it works better than you think
For ag equipment you can get custom made liners of a hard plastic. The liners only fit a specific size tire. You could probably make a liner with fiberglass, but at some point you might want a solid foam filled tire.
That's using your noodle! I still use an old tire that I cut off the sidewalls and use as a tire liner. I first did it when I was a kid back in the 1970's. I found it is best to use an older inner tube to protect the inner tube from the rough edges of the old cut tire that is used as a liner.
I had a wheel that would constantly get flats. It seemed smooth and fine. Used baby powder etc. I did this with a portion of old tibe that was cut from the nip. Ripped out the old valve of course. Double layer around the valve. But so far seems to have fixed the chronically flat wheel.
Installed Tannus w/o a tube just to see what it would feel like. Feels like a 20-25 PSI low tire that would still get me to my destination if needed. Can't wait until it is warm enough to commute on it again. No ragrets. Would recommend.
I think it is a great idea, but I think I am going to go with the tannus. I have a 2019 Montague Paratrooper I converted to an E-MTB with a Bafang Mid Drive BBSHD. I am disabled and this bike gets me places faster then walking and I feel like a little kid LOL. Rails to Trails, Great Organization, When I was in the hospital having open heart surgery in december, one of the nurses heard I am into cycling and told me about a converted old train route that a section was converted to a paved walking/biking route. Well I saw that people are riding along the old tracks that haven't been converted yet and there are lots of broken glass (old beer bottles) all over the place so I figure it is only a matter of time till I get a flat... so Tannus it is!
Old video 2 years old. But I thank you so much. Just looking through videos on fixing flats, I come across your video. Okay, cool, interesting to know. Today I go to do the laundry. I’m using my Retrospec cargo trailer. I’m in the laundromat when there’s a gunshot outside which turns out to be the inner tube on one wheel exploding. The is not repairing it. However, I recall this video. I walk to the corner where there’s a Walgreens, and they have pool noodles for $2. I but a pool noodle and a pack of scissors, the total was under $8. I take the 16” wheel off. Sit in the laundry and stuff about a third of the pool noodle into the wheel. Ride home at my typical speeds, no issues. It would have never occurred to me to do that fix if not for this two year old video. Thank you sir.
A pair (set with tubes) of Tannus is $95.99 as of 11/15/21. I've installed them on my MTB, Gravel, and ebike and they work perfectly. Your hack is a good alternative when money is tight. Good tip!
I anticipated that would happen, as not only is pipe insulation not that thick to start with, it COMPRESSES under pressure. I like the idea of using a leather belt, instead.
I bought a pair of Tannus liners and was never able to get them to fit my wheels. Too small to even fit over the rim. 😢 Gonna try the noodle because I need the protection somehow.
Every tire I mount I pump about a half a bottle of slime into them. Had a 16 penny nail go clear through one side to the other on a fat tire, pulled the nail out and slime held and got me home. Great idea with the noodles perhaps need to pre cut noodle and insert tube before stuffing into tire use duct tape to hold noodle in loop form. I will try this later I have tons of tire, tubes and rims from building E-bike conversions. Nothing but good on you, Thanks for the video.
Having 3 flats on my 20” x 4” fat tire e-bike led me to figure out a protection liner for the tube, as liners just don’t seem to be available. Wandering through Home Depot in search of a material to make a liner. Managed to get a piece of PVC vertical blind material that was scrap. I cut it to narrow it some so it fit and set inside the tire nicely, and held it in place with a few thin strips of duct tape. Nice and smooth and punctures will be no longer!
@@c2thew Nothing written aside from what I wrote above. No flats since either! The pvc vertical blind material was the right flexibility, width and thickness. I also added slime in the inner-tube, as I was not, under any circumstance, getting a flat again. Got the whole CO2 charging system to fill them if needed. pssssssssssssttttt no more!
Just found out the tread from a treadmill works like a dream. That plus a pool noodle means no pinch flats and punctures. Though you sacrifice weight for protection
For that added sidewall protection against pinch flats have you tried using that fancy knife to cut a taper along the slit in the pool noodle (actually it’s pipe insulation but I know…pool noodle just sounds much cooler).
Great idea if you like to pedal with one third more effort. Just use puncture resistant tubes. Funny, all the pool noodles I've seen are solid. Once bought a greenspeed gt3 with tyre inserts (plastic). They caused 2 punctures (sharp edges) causing me to take them out and bin them. Never had a puncture since.
Oh yea! My oldest goes into kindergarten in a few weeks and it feels like yesterday she was born. Thanks for your support and taking the time to comment 🙏🏽
Lord bless and keep you. I am so plagued by flats it's worth a try! I still don't know how you crammed a pool noodle and.a tube into any tire! It boggles my mind. But at least you've given me some hope! Thanks brother!
What about using rubber tubular pipe insulation? Seems like it would be a better choice. Especially considering that one of its traits is that it's self-sealing. Which the foam doesn't do.
If you put the tube in the pipe wrap first (slit facing out) then put it inside the tyre...there would be no pinch problem and full protection at the rim.
@Matt Jphnston Goat's heads are nasty little thorns we have here in the desert of Nevada. Most states with desert are familiar with them. They tend to go through most tires easily.
You should try using water pipe insulation which is pre-sliced so that you can wrap it around a water pipe to prevent the pipe from freezing. When inserting, ensure the sliced opening is toward the rim. Cost per foot is probably more, but you can purchase the exact length that you need and often they come in different thicknesses; such as would be needed on a 4-inch fat tire. To determine length, extend a tape measure around the circumference (perimeter) of your tire to get total length of the noodle OR calculate the tire diameter times PI. DO NOT use the wheel diameter times PI as you will come up short every time! When the noodle is fitted inside the tire you MAY need to insert a thinner tube. That is, instead of a 26"x4" fat tire tube, you may have to install a 26"x2.75" tube, keeping the SAME INSIDE DIAMETER OF THE ORIGINAL TUBE!
@@johndenver5029 That would depend on the diameter of your wheel. 20", 22", 24", 26", etc... What you can do is take a tape measure and determine the full distance around the outer circumference of your currently mounted tire. The result should be the MINIMUM length of noodle/insulation that you purchase; you can always cut it shorter to fit, but you can not make it longer if too short. Remember that you will be cutting the ends at an angle to make the foam fit properly, making one overlap/underlap the other to long flexing. Remember that this only works with a tubeless system.
Idea; SOAK the insert in VERY WARM WATER prior to inserting the Tannus product before installation will make it much easier to work with. Even if you do live in a hot climate. BTW, the pool noodle idea is great but you're not the first one to use it. Just the FIRST ONE to make a video about it. The "Run Flat" tire we used in the HUMVEE is a similar product. You can SHOOT a tire and make it home! PS, Pool Noodles do not come in black. That's pipe insulation
The problem with double tubes, or any other strip inside, is that it can slide while it rolls, and maybe move the valve of the tube off center, and with much pressing in can cut the tube at the base of the valve. The best hack for me so far is the Slime inside the tube.
@@entltyq I dont know... i have only used it in a fat-tire bike so far... and it works good... but i guess it would work the same in any size. The other method i used before was to take a part of a seat-belt of a car, and use it between the tire and the tube.... it worked good too.... but after each ride i had to re-adjust the tube cause it was sliding inside the tire, and the valve was not sitting straight on the valve-hole.
Man, getting the Tannus in the first time was a pain but only one flat the first year! It was a staple that went all the way through the armor into the tube. But literally hundreds if not thousands of goat heads and a screw and nail I have pulled out of my tire yet no flats. I ride to work so I need that security.
Congrats on the new addition to the family Mike 👊🏻 great video could you do a video showing the best/easiest/cheapest ways to make your bike as light as possible without compromising on strength and stability think a lot of people would be interested in that one I know I would for sure 🤙🏻
awesome. subscribed. teach this old Norwegian. folding fat 20" and no drivers license so... let the spring begin the right way and lets put on some miles....
I used to wrap my old punctured inner tubes around my new inner tubes and double the thickness but... You had to chalk in between them and if it rained and you lost pressure in your tyres then it was game over.
We are not allowed to own knives like that in Australia because we are all little children and we have government parents telling us we cant own knives like that. On another note, The weather here in Western Australia is awesome, it was 38c (100f) today in the first month of Autumn.
It's polyethylene pipe insulation. 20x4 Fat Tire Ebike tire, I split the noodle and turned it inside out and lined the tire. I downsized the tube to a Slime tube 20x1.75-2.00 and inflated to 35 posted psi. Total cost $18 per tire.
i figured out the cutting up a old tube and placing it in my mtb in 10th grade after i kept getting flats and didnt have alot of money to keep buying tubes
i was thinking or trying this a long time ago but didnt know how long it would last. i guess it depends on how high grade the noodle might be. iv had some noodles last for ever and some just crumble after a few uses in the pool.. i also did what you did with a 2nd tire. i would take and old downhill tube and used volcanizing rubber glue and glue the old tube into the tire.
"Pool noodles" and foam pipe insulation are low density. Tannus Armour is a much higher density. How many realistic miles can you get on this hack before it deteriorates?
I did this with pipe insulation and after 200 miles, the foam was completely flat. I've run the tannus armor for 500 miles and took it off to change my tire and the armor still has some width to it.
@@nicolasjan1584 that might work but not sure how it would do with being able to run lower pressures, side wall support, and pinch flats. The armor is supposed to help with those things. I mean I'm running my front tubes at 20 psi with the armor and I still have good sidewall support and stiffness and haven't had a pinch flat yet
I saw your comment about using pipe insulation instead of pool noodles as they were out of the latter when you were purchasing. So, I looked them up and came up with this: They are both made of foam, but pool noodles are usually denser than foam pipe insulation. What is the difference between pool noodles and pipe insulation? Pool noodles are made from polyethylene, while pipe insulation is made from polyurethane foam. Pool noodles are softer and more flexible than pipe insulation. Ultimately, I don't know if one is better than the other, but they are definitely not the same thing. I guess it would require a test to see if one is more easily penetrated by a nail or drill.
If after installing the pool noodle hack you leave your bike sitting for a day or two in the same spot or position. Will the tire develop a flat spot on that part of the tire that was making contact with the ground as is sat? The pool Noodle is a lower density foam so it stands to reason that a flat spot may occur but, I don't really know. What I do know is that buying a pool Noodle is a whole lot cheaper than buying the Tannus stuff; even though the Tannus is made for this application.
Cable protection covers, tapetiles and underground warning tapes are the bomb if you don't wanna get a punture,, nothing will penetrate it,, You just have to do the job yourself,,
Hello Mike: Pool Noodle and Armour versus Schwalbe Marathon Plus, Continental Contact Plus - all the tires with extra (Plus) puncture protection would be interesting. Which one roll better? How about snake bites? How about installation? How about the weight? Which ones offer the better puncture protection? Which tires and combinations last longer? I'm rolling on Conti Contact Travel Plus 700x35C on paved and gravel roads. They roll great and zero flats. Also good against snake bites. Easy to mount.
I can't believe this never occurred to me. I was close to though, does that count? When I grew to 16" and 20" I hated having to constantly do patches. My old foam tire 12" was the shit 😎👌. Anyways... I eventually did use double tubes and/or thick tubes. I graduated in 2000 and since then I've stuck with thick tubes and tire liner.
do you remember “double bagging” bmx tires from the late 90s-2000s? i used to cut the besd off of my old bmx tires like primo v monsters and feeding into my primo wall tire. damn near indestructible but heavy as hell especially with running a 2.25 mil thick tube. i wish all of this was available back then lol
I haven't looked back since getting tannus armor. The only thing I need a hack for is how to protect my stem valve. Even by putting tape on the edges of the stem hole in the rim, I still end up with guillotined valve stems
You need to put a small box around it, made of hard plastic or metal or something. Idk anything about bikes, but it sounds like it just needs protected from something hitting it hard.
Interesting. There is information "out there" to NOT tighten stem nuts hard to the rim, leave a quarter inch, and the second nut to lock in place. I am experimenting, but I think I am torquing the stem, encouraging guillotining. Just a thought
How is it compared to that liquid slime stuff? I know the slime can be heavy and I’ve heard it can make the tires balance feel weird if you get a puncture while using it.
Just wondering if there is a product ( similar to a pool noodle consistency ) that can completely eliminate the inner tube all together and eliminate flat tires for good? A "solid" tire if you will.
Tannus makes a solid airless tire. Foam rubber material similar to your shoe soles. Reviews say they have a harsh feel and increase rolling resistance.
Congrats Fede being a dad is so awesome and one question was that a pool noodle or can you use pipe insulator?
Much appreciated! I used to use pool noodles but since were out of season right now they only have a 4 foot long ones and not 6 foot. In this video are used pipe insulator which is basically the exact same thing. You can get them pre-slit or solid. This cost like $2.18 I think.
Thank you for this tip
Hi. It is pipe insulation.
I have a question. Does this work
It probably works to a point. It depends on the length of the projectile and as for glass ingress I wouldn't hazard a guess. At least it's something you can try to prevent flats. I may just try this trick. Better nothin.
Baby powder is super helpful for manipulating tubes inside the tire.
I surely can't be the only one who thought you were gonna stab the tire itself with the knife, lol.
Put the tube in the noodle, then the noodle in the tire, then the tire on the rim.
Right I thought that's what he did then he started adding the tube I was like??? Wouldn't it be easier to put the tube in the noodle and then put it on and inflate it.... Have you tried this? This my first time changing a bike tire. It's for my son. My husband use to do all this but I'm divorced so trying to figure it out for myself
@@sabrinafelix2511 I haven't tried this, just used my noggin. Good to hear, you're a good mom. I would try to explain it to you but I'm sure theres a video that could show you better than I could explain 😂. Look up "park tool" they have plenty of bike maintenance videos. Im sure you'll find it simple.
Im pretty sure that is piping insulation which is why it comes preslit they sell that at like home depot n menards
Yup!! They had non slit too
Hahaha I just committed along those lines an the insulation might withstand puncture ab be more flexible than pool noodles.
@@bryanfelix1462 shut up .
Family Dollar sells those slitted pool noodles for $1 even.
@@MikeFede They had non-slit insulation tubes??
What a trip. I'm a contractor. I've never seen that before.
"that's not a valve stem deflator, THIS is a valve stem deflator" 😂
Congrats on the new baby, brother ♥️🐾
Just take an old leather belt super glue it to the inside of your tire all the way around nice perfect and you're good to go trust me it works better than you think
Which kind of super glue do you suggest? Brand? Gorilla glue?
thats actually pretty smart. leather would probably stop a roofing tac actually. glass.. goatheads, no problem. gona use the belt method. thanks man.
For ag equipment you can get custom made liners of a hard plastic. The liners only fit a specific size tire. You could probably make a liner with fiberglass, but at some point you might want a solid foam filled tire.
So it does work im going do it
Lol wow I never thought of doing that.
That's using your noodle! I still use an old tire that I cut off the sidewalls and use as a tire liner. I first did it when I was a kid back in the 1970's. I found it is best to use an older inner tube to protect the inner tube from the rough edges of the old cut tire that is used as a liner.
Great hack! We’ve all got old inner tubes, and some may have old tires. Repurposing & reusing will always be the best solutions, whenever possible.
I had a wheel that would constantly get flats. It seemed smooth and fine. Used baby powder etc.
I did this with a portion of old tibe that was cut from the nip. Ripped out the old valve of course. Double layer around the valve. But so far seems to have fixed the chronically flat wheel.
We would just double up on tires in the old days. Never caught a flat tire even when the outer tire wore out. The bike fell apart before the tires did
Installed Tannus w/o a tube just to see what it would feel like. Feels like a 20-25 PSI low tire that would still get me to my destination if needed. Can't wait until it is warm enough to commute on it again. No ragrets. Would recommend.
When you do 37mls a day like I do you will realise it's rubbish, it compressed to 6mm thick,and caused rubbing punctures,even though I used talc
I think it is a great idea, but I think I am going to go with the tannus. I have a 2019 Montague Paratrooper I converted to an E-MTB with a Bafang Mid Drive BBSHD. I am disabled and this bike gets me places faster then walking and I feel like a little kid LOL. Rails to Trails, Great Organization, When I was in the hospital having open heart surgery in december, one of the nurses heard I am into cycling and told me about a converted old train route that a section was converted to a paved walking/biking route. Well I saw that people are riding along the old tracks that haven't been converted yet and there are lots of broken glass (old beer bottles) all over the place so I figure it is only a matter of time till I get a flat... so Tannus it is!
Congratulations! Make sure we are telling our boys how special it is to be boys!
Great video.
Old video 2 years old. But I thank you so much.
Just looking through videos on fixing flats, I come across your video. Okay, cool, interesting to know.
Today I go to do the laundry. I’m using my Retrospec cargo trailer.
I’m in the laundromat when there’s a gunshot outside which turns out to be the inner tube on one wheel exploding.
The is not repairing it.
However, I recall this video. I walk to the corner where there’s a Walgreens, and they have pool noodles for $2.
I but a pool noodle and a pack of scissors, the total was under $8.
I take the 16” wheel off. Sit in the laundry and stuff about a third of the pool noodle into the wheel.
Ride home at my typical speeds, no issues.
It would have never occurred to me to do that fix if not for this two year old video.
Thank you sir.
Having the camera on what you are doing would be helpful.
Ditto.
Right! I am leaving, and downvoting this video, even though I am interested in the subject.
Was thinking the same thing. Wish I could see exactly what your doing.
He put a pool noodle around a rim. It's not rocket science
@@Myaccisbanned possibly.
Wouldn't it be easier to put the tube into the pipe insulation first?
A pair (set with tubes) of Tannus is $95.99 as of 11/15/21. I've installed them on my MTB, Gravel, and ebike and they work perfectly. Your hack is a good alternative when money is tight. Good tip!
Nice DIY! Thanks! I'm going with puncture resistant tires & tubes, Tannus Armour,. Flat Out, and a kevlar tire liner for my hunting bike. :D
And TPU inner tubes
Tried it and got a flat. When I took the noodle out to fix the tube, it was as thin as paper. I just put an old tire inside and so far so good.
That works really well.
I anticipated that would happen, as not only is pipe insulation not that thick to start with, it COMPRESSES under pressure. I like the idea of using a leather belt, instead.
Nice video Mike! Our Tannus Armour Inserts are a nice welcomed upgrade for all bikes. Love the review! Cheers
I bought a pair of Tannus liners and was never able to get them to fit my wheels. Too small to even fit over the rim. 😢 Gonna try the noodle because I need the protection somehow.
@@SilverFox80521 Our tire insert Aither material does have some stretch. What size were you installing? Happy to look into it for you
Every tire I mount I pump about a half a bottle of slime into them. Had a 16 penny nail go clear through one side to the other on a fat tire, pulled the nail out and slime held and got me home. Great idea with the noodles perhaps need to pre cut noodle and insert tube before stuffing into tire use duct tape to hold noodle in loop form. I will try this later I have tons of tire, tubes and rims from building E-bike conversions. Nothing but good on you, Thanks for the video.
Congratulations on your new baby!
Having 3 flats on my 20” x 4” fat tire e-bike led me to figure out a protection liner for the tube, as liners just don’t seem to be available. Wandering through Home Depot in search of a material to make a liner. Managed to get a piece of PVC vertical blind material that was scrap. I cut it to narrow it some so it fit and set inside the tire nicely, and held it in place with a few thin strips of duct tape. Nice and smooth and punctures will be no longer!
Do you have a forum post of how your diy hack? You used a long plastic blind correct?
@@c2thew Nothing written aside from what I wrote above. No flats since either! The pvc vertical blind material was the right flexibility, width and thickness. I also added slime in the inner-tube, as I was not, under any circumstance, getting a flat again. Got the whole CO2 charging system to fill them if needed.
pssssssssssssttttt no more!
Just found out the tread from a treadmill works like a dream. That plus a pool noodle means no pinch flats and punctures. Though you sacrifice weight for protection
LOVE THIS HACK I'VE GOTTON 2 FLATS WITHIN 3 DAYS. I'MMA TRY GETTING A POOL NOODLE FROM THE DOLLAR TREE.
Why are you yelling??
I ALWAYS get punctures and have always wondered if something like this would be possible. Awesome video, thanks
2 innnertubes+ pucture repair kit + pump + tyre levers in the bag and you are prepared for many puctures
Yellow or Blue plastic they wrap boxes with ,put that inside tyre ,its as good as a kevlar strip
For that added sidewall protection against pinch flats have you tried using that fancy knife to cut a taper along the slit in the pool noodle (actually it’s pipe insulation but I know…pool noodle just sounds much cooler).
When I change new tires, I set in sun for 2 hours and it's easier to work the bead.
Great idea if you like to pedal with one third more effort. Just use puncture resistant tubes. Funny, all the pool noodles I've seen are solid. Once bought a greenspeed gt3 with tyre inserts (plastic). They caused 2 punctures (sharp edges) causing me to take them out and bin them. Never had a puncture since.
Very cool hack, I’ve got Minesweepers in my MTB tires & love running tubeless.
Man. I freaking hate flats. If this works well it would be a dream come true
I know I'm a little late but CONGRATULATIONS on your new baby.
🙏🏽Thanks! Getting big and running around now🤘🏽
@@MikeFede enjoy it while you can kid's grow up so fast.
Oh yea! My oldest goes into kindergarten in a few weeks and it feels like yesterday she was born. Thanks for your support and taking the time to comment 🙏🏽
Thanks, Mike. Just ordered a Ravencrest Tanto.
It's not really the weight for me, especially on an ebike. But being too soft slows you down and kills batteries faster.
Lord bless and keep you. I am so plagued by flats it's worth a try! I still don't know how you crammed a pool noodle and.a tube into any tire! It boggles my mind. But at least you've given me some hope! Thanks brother!
Congratulations on the baby/babies
That's pipe insulation... not a pool noodle... that's why it's pre-slit!
What about using rubber tubular pipe insulation? Seems like it would be a better choice. Especially considering that one of its traits is that it's self-sealing. Which the foam doesn't do.
I tried the pipe insulation (black foam/rubber type) and it compressed to the thickness of paper after a few days and was a complete waste of time.
I don't know if you can get a Nobel Peace Prize for a hack, but you ought to be considered...
Congratulations. My daughter was just born Thursday the 25th
If you put the tube in the pipe wrap first (slit facing out) then put it inside the tyre...there would be no pinch problem and full protection at the rim.
My hack i use an old tire and insert it inside the main tire works like a charm.
Cool. I have never seen this before. There are goat heads in my area. I this would be great on my ebike and those damn goat head thorns.
Tubeless doesn't work?
Goat's Heads are the devil! Had 3 in my tire last week.
@Matt Jphnston Goat's heads are nasty little thorns we have here in the desert of Nevada. Most states with desert are familiar with them. They tend to go through most tires easily.
You should try using water pipe insulation which is pre-sliced so that you can wrap it around a water pipe to prevent the pipe from freezing. When inserting, ensure the sliced opening is toward the rim. Cost per foot is probably more, but you can purchase the exact length that you need and often they come in different thicknesses; such as would be needed on a 4-inch fat tire. To determine length, extend a tape measure around the circumference (perimeter) of your tire to get total length of the noodle OR calculate the tire diameter times PI. DO NOT use the wheel diameter times PI as you will come up short every time! When the noodle is fitted inside the tire you MAY need to insert a thinner tube. That is, instead of a 26"x4" fat tire tube, you may have to install a 26"x2.75" tube, keeping the SAME INSIDE DIAMETER OF THE ORIGINAL TUBE!
He is using pipe insulation - it’s not a pool noodle
@@Greeves came here looking for this comment. :)
Tannus Armour recommends the same method.
What diameter noodle or tannus or pipe insulation for a 4inch fat tire?
@@johndenver5029 That would depend on the diameter of your wheel. 20", 22", 24", 26", etc... What you can do is take a tape measure and determine the full distance around the outer circumference of your currently mounted tire. The result should be the MINIMUM length of noodle/insulation that you purchase; you can always cut it shorter to fit, but you can not make it longer if too short. Remember that you will be cutting the ends at an angle to make the foam fit properly, making one overlap/underlap the other to long flexing. Remember that this only works with a tubeless system.
Idea; SOAK the insert in VERY WARM WATER prior to inserting the Tannus product before installation will make it much easier to work with. Even if you do live in a hot climate. BTW, the pool noodle idea is great but you're not the first one to use it. Just the FIRST ONE to make a video about it. The "Run Flat" tire we used in the HUMVEE is a similar product. You can SHOOT a tire and make it home!
PS, Pool Noodles do not come in black. That's pipe insulation
Weathers great. Sunny and warm in seaside Oregon
Congrats Fede!! I remember doing the double tube trick to try and prevent flats! Lol
I still double tube my tubes I know it adds weight but I used to get flats a lot and that saved me
The problem with double tubes, or any other strip inside, is that it can slide while it rolls, and maybe move the valve of the tube off center, and with much pressing in can cut the tube at the base of the valve.
The best hack for me so far is the Slime inside the tube.
@@v4v777 Hey, would you recommend tire Slime for use in a thin or thick tube? Which combo is effective and efficient?
@@entltyq I dont know... i have only used it in a fat-tire bike so far... and it works good... but i guess it would work the same in any size.
The other method i used before was to take a part of a seat-belt of a car, and use it between the tire and the tube.... it worked good too.... but after each ride i had to re-adjust the tube cause it was sliding inside the tire, and the valve was not sitting straight on the valve-hole.
@@v4v777 That's pretty cool, man! I like that idea with the seatbelt - it might be something I'll try soon enough. 💯👍
Man, getting the Tannus in the first time was a pain but only one flat the first year! It was a staple that went all the way through the armor into the tube. But literally hundreds if not thousands of goat heads and a screw and nail I have pulled out of my tire yet no flats. I ride to work so I need that security.
Absolute genius my man
Congrats on the new addition to the family Mike 👊🏻 great video could you do a video showing the best/easiest/cheapest ways to make your bike as light as possible without compromising on strength and stability think a lot of people would be interested in that one I know I would for sure 🤙🏻
Congratulations on your second child
awesome. subscribed. teach this old Norwegian. folding fat 20" and no drivers license so... let the spring begin the right way and lets put on some miles....
Congratulations on the new Little Fede.
I used to wrap my old punctured inner tubes around my new inner tubes and double the thickness but... You had to chalk in between them and if it rained and you lost pressure in your tyres then it was game over.
I would imagine you could use Flatout (tire sealant) as a extra precautionary measure in case you hit a nail or something like it.
We are not allowed to own knives like that in Australia because we are all little children and we have government parents telling us we cant own knives like that. On another note, The weather here in Western Australia is awesome, it was 38c (100f) today in the first month of Autumn.
tannus armor and QuickStrike Tire Sealant would be a beast for my bike
Very interesting. Thanks.
The dude made counterfeit tannus armour
CONGRATS
It's polyethylene pipe insulation. 20x4 Fat Tire Ebike tire, I split the noodle and turned it inside out and lined the tire. I downsized the tube to a Slime tube 20x1.75-2.00 and inflated to 35 posted psi.
Total cost $18 per tire.
Yeah that pipe insulation is very different than most noodles
You can cut pool noodles with a clean cut by using an electric kitchen carving knife,the twin blades cut clean. Some brands cut better than others😮😊
Hey Mr tuffy liner $8. Badass combine this with that. NEVER A FLAT
The already slit ones from the hardware store are sold as pipe insulation to prevent freezing pipes.
i figured out the cutting up a old tube and placing it in my mtb in 10th grade after i kept getting flats and didnt have alot of money to keep buying tubes
Congratulations on the baby your a good dad friend
This genius. Using pipe insulation :)
I put tannus on my fat tire e bike. Works great
Congratulations on having child #2! Hope all goes well buddy!
Gonna use pool noodles in my lawn mower front tires.
Congratulations to you and the family!
i was thinking or trying this a long time ago but didnt know how long it would last. i guess it depends on how high grade the noodle might be. iv had some noodles last for ever and some just crumble after a few uses in the pool.. i also did what you did with a 2nd tire. i would take and old downhill tube and used volcanizing rubber glue and glue the old tube into the tire.
congrats on the baby. march is the best time to be born because it's far away from other holidays and it's right at the end of winter.
theres is no good time to be born.
How about testing the Vittoria Airliner tire inserts? It seems like a really great product.
"Pool noodles" and foam pipe insulation are low density. Tannus Armour is a much higher density. How many realistic miles can you get on this hack before it deteriorates?
I did this with pipe insulation and after 200 miles, the foam was completely flat. I've run the tannus armor for 500 miles and took it off to change my tire and the armor still has some width to it.
So why not simply put a second small tire?
@@nicolasjan1584 that might work but not sure how it would do with being able to run lower pressures, side wall support, and pinch flats. The armor is supposed to help with those things. I mean I'm running my front tubes at 20 psi with the armor and I still have good sidewall support and stiffness and haven't had a pinch flat yet
I saw your comment about using pipe insulation instead of pool noodles as they were out of the latter when you were purchasing. So, I looked them up and came up with this: They are both made of foam, but pool noodles are usually denser than foam pipe insulation. What is the difference between pool noodles and pipe insulation? Pool noodles are made from polyethylene, while pipe insulation is made from polyurethane foam. Pool noodles are softer and more flexible than pipe insulation. Ultimately, I don't know if one is better than the other, but they are definitely not the same thing. I guess it would require a test to see if one is more easily penetrated by a nail or drill.
I tried the pipe insulation (black foam/rubber type) and it compressed to the thickness of paper after a few days and was a complete waste of time.
That tubing is actually roll bar padding for race car. Never the less
If after installing the pool noodle hack you leave your bike sitting for a day or two in the same spot or position. Will the tire develop a flat spot on that part of the tire that was making contact with the ground as is sat?
The pool Noodle is a lower density foam so it stands to reason that a flat spot may occur but, I don't really know. What I do know is that buying a pool Noodle is a whole lot cheaper than buying the Tannus stuff; even though the Tannus is made for this application.
Cable protection covers, tapetiles and underground warning tapes are the bomb if you don't wanna get a punture,, nothing will penetrate it,,
You just have to do the job yourself,,
Why can't you put the slightly inflated tube in before you mount it on the wheel? I did that with Tanus multiple times with no problem.
Hello Mike: Pool Noodle and Armour versus Schwalbe Marathon Plus, Continental Contact Plus - all the tires with extra (Plus) puncture protection would be interesting. Which one roll better? How about snake bites? How about installation? How about the weight? Which ones offer the better puncture protection? Which tires and combinations last longer? I'm rolling on Conti Contact Travel Plus 700x35C on paved and gravel roads. They roll great and zero flats. Also good against snake bites. Easy to mount.
I can't believe this never occurred to me. I was close to though, does that count? When I grew to 16" and 20" I hated having to constantly do patches. My old foam tire 12" was the shit 😎👌.
Anyways... I eventually did use double tubes and/or thick tubes. I graduated in 2000 and since then I've stuck with thick tubes and tire liner.
Excellent video.Thank you 👏.
Hah i might just try this. TheTannus looks awesome but it is expensive. I just ordered liners and sealant, but might have to give this a try
Just what i needed, Too add protection for my tires
That pool noodle is actually pipe insulation. That's why it has the slit along its side.
do you remember “double bagging” bmx tires from the late 90s-2000s? i used to cut the besd off of my old bmx tires like primo v monsters and feeding into my primo wall tire. damn near indestructible but heavy as hell especially with running a 2.25 mil thick tube. i wish all of this was available back then lol
humpf... I'm still using this trick, 2021 ;)
I haven't looked back since getting tannus armor. The only thing I need a hack for is how to protect my stem valve. Even by putting tape on the edges of the stem hole in the rim, I still end up with guillotined valve stems
You need to put a small box around it, made of hard plastic or metal or something. Idk anything about bikes, but it sounds like it just needs protected from something hitting it hard.
Interesting. There is information "out there" to NOT tighten stem nuts hard to the rim, leave a quarter inch, and the second nut to lock in place. I am experimenting, but I think I am torquing the stem, encouraging guillotining. Just a thought
bro wtf i grew up on a bike how did i not think of this! :o
So if you were using a 4” fat tire would you use a standard size 2.25” wide tube?
try doing the pool noodle then a thick bead of silicone caulking. you have to work fast because the silicone will dry fairly quickly.
I wonder how this would work along with flat out.
Congratulations on having a baby
How is it compared to that liquid slime stuff? I know the slime can be heavy and I’ve heard it can make the tires balance feel weird if you get a puncture while using it.
If there is a slit, it is actually a pipe insulator against winter weather
Very awesome Keep it up Mike
We really liked what we heard in the second 27 to 37, but, what about using a worn tire ?
Just wondering if there is a product ( similar to a pool noodle consistency ) that can completely eliminate the inner tube all together and eliminate flat tires for good? A "solid" tire if you will.
Tannus makes a solid airless tire. Foam rubber material similar to your shoe soles. Reviews say they have a harsh feel and increase rolling resistance.
Has anyone told this dude that is not a pool noodle...its pipe insulation foam, pool noodles are like 4 inch diameter
@@sitoudien9816 Just like on some escooter solid foam tires.
I have a flight right now on my electric 3.0 and I might do the hack pool noodle