The Atheist Experience 27.35 with Forrest Valkai and Armin Navabi

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  • @Mr_Rouge
    @Mr_Rouge 10 месяцев назад +55

    Theists in a nutshell : "How dare you ask questions and expect me to answer them ?! I'd rather change the subject until you're bored and I can claim victory."

  • @lout160
    @lout160 10 месяцев назад +99

    "I'd rather you just answer the question."
    Most honest theist response I've ever heard: "I'd rather go to the other thing."

    • @FirstLast-lz6cu
      @FirstLast-lz6cu 8 месяцев назад +12

      This is the same guy who when asked if he cares if his beliefs are true, he said yes. And then later in the call when they pointed out that he just believes to fill gaps in things we don't understand he said, yes and I don't see anything wrong with that, I'd rather believe something now than wait for science to figure out the truth... religion rots your brain

  • @2l84me8
    @2l84me8 10 месяцев назад +104

    Armin's story is heartbreaking.
    it's amazing how much harm religion causes.

    • @marylacken4016
      @marylacken4016 9 месяцев назад +3

      Every ideology is harmful.

    • @crazystart8581
      @crazystart8581 7 месяцев назад +5

      I literally was tearing up. Theres no way I couldn have sit across from him without sobbing at that...😢

    • @almosteducational3729
      @almosteducational3729 5 месяцев назад

      @@marylacken4016okay??? And?

    • @MrCanis4
      @MrCanis4 5 месяцев назад

      Imagine. Being afraid of becoming an adult.

    • @paddlefar9175
      @paddlefar9175 4 месяца назад

      @@marylacken4016Did you mean to say dogma, instead of ideology?

  • @sheilah8516
    @sheilah8516 10 месяцев назад +48

    I feel so sad for the young Armin. I want to reach back in time and give him a hug. What terrible things to teach a little child. I'm so glad my parents raised us non-religious.

  • @barrydavis6626
    @barrydavis6626 10 месяцев назад +61

    Jon: "Why do you care so much about what people believe?" I don't until they try to translate their beliefs in laws and other actions that affect the rest of us.

    • @FirstLast-lz6cu
      @FirstLast-lz6cu 8 месяцев назад +4

      Jon's the worst caller. It's always the same. His point gets demolished and then to avoid confronting the fact his point got demolished he runs away into the shield of his transphobia. This time he ran all the way away and hung up. Normally I don't mind the repeat callers but I wouldn't mind never hearing his voice again.

    • @AmEv7fam
      @AmEv7fam 7 месяцев назад +1

      BUT HOW WILL YOU BE ABLE TO FIND IT IF YOU CAN'T SEE, JOHN?
      John is literally as blind as that namesake.

    • @Aryan-qv5qk
      @Aryan-qv5qk 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@AmEv7fam I got a blind friend named John
      You better hope he doesn’t see this

  • @roppa789
    @roppa789 10 месяцев назад +219

    6:50 Alan… wants advice on how to talk to his best friend about Alan’s atheism
    24:40 Dave… Faith is the only fair method to discuss belief in god. Smarter people could understand evidence but thickos would struggle, therefore faith explains it to everyone fairly.
    1:05:00 Monkey knows more about DNA than Forrest lol
    1:10:00 Michael re biblical slavery … it was due to stubbornness and God was cool with it
    1:27:10 Superchat
    1:30:25 Armin tells us his experience as a child in Islam.. fear of burning in hell caused him to jump out of his school window.. and his shame and disgust that God could read his mind at all times… wow
    1:34:50 Carlos Asks about the realisation of rejection as an anti-theist in Puerto Rico
    1:56:15 Jon re Pascal’s wager .. what’s wrong with it? and what if you’re wrong Forrest? …. but the Christian god created the USA why do you care so much about what others believe?

  • @elmartell5724
    @elmartell5724 10 месяцев назад +47

    Forrest: *cracks knuckles* "It'll be better if you answer the question." 😑😑
    Me: "Oh sh!t- Forrest is going bad cop!" 😱😱... 👀👀 Nice...

  • @FakingANerve
    @FakingANerve 10 месяцев назад +55

    "I BEGGED for _ANYTHING!_ I _cried out_ for him... but I'm an atheist, so... that didn't work out."
    Armin, your comic timing is impeccable! That deadpan delivery of the end made me burst out laughing! 😂👍🍻

  • @PersistentDissenter
    @PersistentDissenter 10 месяцев назад +189

    I appreciate Forrest not platforming anti-vax bulshit and conspiracy nuttery.

    • @ronalddepesa6221
      @ronalddepesa6221 10 месяцев назад +1

      After listening to This Week In Virology the past 9 years I gotta tell you the caller was completely incoherent and so wrong he was not even wrong.
      What an ass

    • @shanewilson7994
      @shanewilson7994 10 месяцев назад +1

      Same, especially since the guy calling in has zero interest in having a conversation, and just pushes his stupid "everything is waves, the government is manipulating you by waves by injecting stuff into you, and climate change is just us waking up to what is happening."

    • @ravenlockhart0925
      @ravenlockhart0925 10 месяцев назад +1

      That guy calls into a bunch of atheist shows under different names saying that same word salad bull shit

    • @robertshepard2117
      @robertshepard2117 10 месяцев назад +3

      That was Jordan Peterson?

    • @AtheistCulturalMarxist
      @AtheistCulturalMarxist 10 месяцев назад

      Isn't he a follower of gender faith a member of the rainbow cult.
      Without knowing anything about him politically I already know he supports the atheistic humanist Communists /socialist / fascist atheistic humanist left.
      I bet he supports ticking away Americans constitutional right to free speech and practice religion by compelling people in speech to acknowledge gender Faith as both a physical moral reality.

  • @davidtetard5781
    @davidtetard5781 10 месяцев назад +32

    Armin's description of the good parts of the bible acting a sugar coating, marketing for bad parts is pure gold. Thank you sir, very good analysis.

  • @Solenum756
    @Solenum756 10 месяцев назад +90

    I love how Forrest just shut down slavery instantly

    • @user-qt8kq5qq8o
      @user-qt8kq5qq8o 10 месяцев назад +16

      It should be so simple... Do NOT OWN PEOPLE! It doesn't matter how 'nice' you might be. DO NOT OWN PEOPLE!

    • @Solenum756
      @Solenum756 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@user-qt8kq5qq8o right? I liked when they used the kidnapper analogy to point out that it doesn't matter if you're a good kidnapper you still took someone against their will.

    • @TreeHairedGingerAle
      @TreeHairedGingerAle 9 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@user-qt8kq5qq8oit's funny, but I guess it's a dangerous concept for christian cultures to accept.
      After all, the whole structure of the religion is based on hierarchies that declare various levels of "ownership" between living beings.
      God "owns" everyone. Man "owns" woman. Adults "own" children. It just goes on and on.
      There is little to their religion that does not assume that humans -- ALL humans -- are property of some kind...
      So much for a belief system that insists that their followers are "free".

  • @user-cj6lm8ob5j
    @user-cj6lm8ob5j 10 месяцев назад +21

    “I pray a simple prayer every morning. It’s an ecumenical prayer. Whether you’re Catholic or Jewish or Muslim or Hindu, I think it speaks to the heart of every faith. It goes “Lord please break the laws of the universe for my convenience. Amen.””
    - Emo Philips

  • @mirandarensberger6919
    @mirandarensberger6919 10 месяцев назад +120

    Allah's dickest move ever was making Armin feel like self-harm was better than asking questions. So glad Armin got out of that and is doing better now.

    • @EdithBromfeld
      @EdithBromfeld 10 месяцев назад

      If Allah doesn't exist, how can you blame Allah for making a dick move?
      Atheists are irrational.

    • @shakeelali20
      @shakeelali20 10 месяцев назад +14

      Sadly a lot of Muslims have a similar experience. It's refreshing and empowering hearing strong men like Armin speak up about their personal (horrific) experiences with religion. Islam has a unique way of really screwing with you mentally if you come from a Non-muslim majority country.

    • @ajclements4627
      @ajclements4627 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@EdithBromfeld
      You misspelled theists again Jimmy, no “a”.

    • @jamespicksley5781
      @jamespicksley5781 10 месяцев назад +2

      I'd suggest multiple genocides are bigger dick moves

    • @AtheistCulturalMarxist
      @AtheistCulturalMarxist 10 месяцев назад

      LoL atheism asking questions lol . Atheism is a bias position it's a disbelief salon willingness or inability to accept God as true.
      Kim jong-un said he's going to murder somebody and that's how they become an atheist.
      Somebody has a mental illness and believe they have a brain of a different gender in their body and if they pretend God doesn't exist they believe they'll accept themselves and that people will accept them.
      That's atheism.
      Matter of fact not only does atheism not require critical thinking it doesn't even require thinking.
      If somebody was born completely brain-dead never having a thought they would be an atheist because they wouldn't have the ability to accept God as true

  • @VoxClementia92
    @VoxClementia92 10 месяцев назад +40

    I understand why Dave was so concerned about not-so-intelligent people getting into heaven-he’s looking out for his own skin

  • @stevebaker1004
    @stevebaker1004 10 месяцев назад +47

    Why have I not heard about Armin before now?! I'm slacking obviously. Armin's comments and responses were seriously on-point and brilliant. Forrest and Armin are a fantastic duo, what a great show!

    • @vishwakumar2864
      @vishwakumar2864 10 месяцев назад +2

      He is the founder of the Atheist Republic.
      It is on RUclips channel, Facebook (largest atheist page), Twitter and Instagram.
      I got to know him through his godess Kali cartoon controversy, and became a regular viewer of his youtube channel, where he and other host, mostly Susanna, conduct weekly livestream about 10 atheist and religion related news. He speaks at his Persian channel too.

    • @mackturtle2335
      @mackturtle2335 3 месяца назад

      Same!

  • @joelonsdale
    @joelonsdale 10 месяцев назад +42

    Pascal's Wager is weird. If you are not convinced, pretending to be convinced is not going to fool god AND you have broken a commandment by lying!

    • @scottjohnson7248
      @scottjohnson7248 10 месяцев назад +5

      I remember as a kid coming up with my own version of Pascal's wager as a thought experiment but didn't know anything about Pascal yet. It took me about a minute to realize that an ominiscient god wouldn't be fooled by someone hedging their bets. It's sad that logic that can be conjured and understood by a tween is so elusive to fully grown adult theists.

    • @joelonsdale
      @joelonsdale 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@scottjohnson7248 "Fully grown" and "adult" really only speak of the physical aspect of someone's development...

    • @kowoh
      @kowoh 8 месяцев назад

      This making one’s self believe stuff, I don’t know how that works. And I think some people think you can. Because their really invested in looking down on others belief’s as not good enough. Pascal’s wager just comes off as snobby and elitist. It’s a monoculture idea.

    • @Nick-Nasti
      @Nick-Nasti 4 месяца назад +1

      @@kowohit’s called “brainwashing” and it is possible to do it to oneself.
      😊

    • @ACharmedEarthling
      @ACharmedEarthling 3 месяца назад +1

      It's also strange to claim there's no cost to suspending your critical faculties for your entire live.

  • @queezle4277
    @queezle4277 10 месяцев назад +70

    Forrest was extra salty and Armin was extra sharp. The combination of the 2 was delicious. Hope these 2 host together much more often

    • @jackcox7178
      @jackcox7178 9 месяцев назад +5

      An athiest pecorino for the ears.

    • @queezle4277
      @queezle4277 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@jackcox7178 For a woman, they are a treat for the eyes as well!

    • @brianfullbuster5648
      @brianfullbuster5648 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@queezle4277 As a man as well. Shame that forrest is married and straight.

  • @ck-sl5gl
    @ck-sl5gl 10 месяцев назад +55

    Armin is an A+ host! Keep him.

  • @michi-lee
    @michi-lee 10 месяцев назад +46

    Forrest and Armin are SUCH A GOOD COMBO! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @jakeloranger1419
    @jakeloranger1419 10 месяцев назад +31

    I do enjoy Forrest's approach to the fallacies espoused by religionists. Also, I appreciate Armin's sensitivity in tackling the troublesome parts of the issues discussed. Despite English not being his primary tongue, he still manages to convey his humanity and the real cost of religion, borne out of his own experience. Good show, guys!

  • @NeutralMjolkHotel
    @NeutralMjolkHotel 10 месяцев назад +17

    Armin is a fantastic speaker. He should have a podcast with millions of listeners.

  • @gregjones2289
    @gregjones2289 10 месяцев назад +29

    Armin and Forrest are great together.
    They are good listeners as well as communicators. ❤

  • @k7cody7
    @k7cody7 10 месяцев назад +23

    Armins story was so powerful. He’s new to me, but im seeking him out like I do Forrest moving forward

    • @_Somsnosa_
      @_Somsnosa_ 9 месяцев назад

      The episode of his podcast where he talks to a gay ex Muslim is great. It's called the Secular Jihadists, I watched it on youtube

  • @petemiller2920
    @petemiller2920 10 месяцев назад +30

    I loved these two hosts! As ever, Forrest is brilliant and energetic. And Armin was amazing - so articulate, and it’s so nice to hear someone from an ex-Muslim perspective which I rarely get to hear. Also, what a story, Armin!

  • @JohnDoe-tw8es
    @JohnDoe-tw8es 10 месяцев назад +71

    God, I like that Forrest. The guy just makes so much sense . Same with Armin they are both so intelligent.

    • @anthonysmith8800
      @anthonysmith8800 10 месяцев назад +7

      Agreed and both so articulate too. They have a good dynamic

  • @christianjalexander
    @christianjalexander 10 месяцев назад +35

    Forest was on fucking fire on this show. More than usual! At some points it was like I was listening to a crescendo in my favorite song, because he had set up his arguments so beautifully and then come down hard with the truth when the callers walked right into his traps.
    Forrest is unmatched as an orator and counterapologist. I've basically known it since the first time I saw him on TikTok years ago.

  • @daveheavy204
    @daveheavy204 10 месяцев назад +11

    As soon as you see "none given" for pro nouns, you know it's going to be a good call

    • @ACharmedEarthling
      @ACharmedEarthling 3 месяца назад

      Tbf, I would probably do the same, and I'm left on most issues and an atheist. That pronoun stuff annoys me. It feels very performative.

  • @johnmacias488
    @johnmacias488 10 месяцев назад +74

    God damn this episode was 🔥🔥🔥🔥. More Armin and Forrest please!!!!

  • @Firebrandatheist
    @Firebrandatheist 10 месяцев назад +29

    Great show Armin Navabi has an amazing perspective. I love his insight. Great job Forrest Valkai

  • @iconifyme
    @iconifyme 10 месяцев назад +11

    God damn, Armin. Brother that breaks my heart to hear how terrified you were as a young man. Thank Roland you found your way out of religion.

  • @BeheadedKamikaze
    @BeheadedKamikaze 10 месяцев назад +25

    Wooohooooo Forrest and Armin are such amazing hosts! What a great episode! I hope to see them both on again soon.

  • @kevinhouse7143
    @kevinhouse7143 10 месяцев назад +16

    Forrest was throwing some kick ass fire and brimstone this episode and Armin was coming up with some really top shelf points. Great show!

  • @sydliquid2152
    @sydliquid2152 10 месяцев назад +15

    I didn't know Armin before i saw him on this show... but he's quickly becoming a favorite host!

    • @doneestoner9945
      @doneestoner9945 9 месяцев назад +5

      He's one of my favorites.

    • @vishwakumar2864
      @vishwakumar2864 9 месяцев назад +1

      He is dope ! Watch his youtube channel "Atheist Republic", where he and other host, mostly Susanna conduct weekly live streams on Sunday about 10 news related to atheism and religion covering many countries.

  • @2l84me8
    @2l84me8 10 месяцев назад +18

    Dave is believing in whatever he already wants regardless of the evidence.
    He is putting the cart before the unicorn.

  • @iamnotgroot3693
    @iamnotgroot3693 10 месяцев назад +46

    Two of my favourite hosts. Great show!

    • @brucetopping248
      @brucetopping248 10 месяцев назад +9

      Agreed. these two are class acts.

    • @jeanettekeatinge2072
      @jeanettekeatinge2072 10 месяцев назад +7

      I love these two guys! Smart, empathetic when necessary, and very good at weeding through people’s points and thoughts and so much more.

  • @tamarockstar45
    @tamarockstar45 10 месяцев назад +23

    Armin is an insightful, smart dude.

  • @beat0life
    @beat0life 10 месяцев назад +10

    Dave saying "it's not stupid" but then immediately after admitting he doesn't know why 😂

  • @rmelzhim6033
    @rmelzhim6033 10 месяцев назад +8

    This has to be one of the most insane, horrifying, and hilarious Atheist Experience videos I've listened to in a very, very long time. Some of these callers... just wow.

  • @YosemiteOnMyMind
    @YosemiteOnMyMind 10 месяцев назад +6

    Armin's testimony about his experience with religion was perhaps the most impactful thing I've heard on this channel.

  • @JennFaeAge
    @JennFaeAge 10 месяцев назад +4

    I do love that a guy who doesn't understand how DNA works tried to lecture Forrest about how he doesn't know science

  • @pokemontrainerthink9045
    @pokemontrainerthink9045 8 месяцев назад +6

    Dave: "I'm not gonna wait for science to figure everything out."
    Also Dave: "delays arent always bad."
    . . .

  • @paul.c.gregory
    @paul.c.gregory 10 месяцев назад +8

    Brilliant, massive Forrest fan, never seen Armin before, will definitely be on the lookout in future.

  • @redwatch.
    @redwatch. 10 месяцев назад +13

    Great hosts with great chemistry.

  • @stevenbyers8747
    @stevenbyers8747 10 месяцев назад +13

    Dave's entire belief system is based on gullibility.

  • @sonia-lu2rn
    @sonia-lu2rn 10 месяцев назад +13

    So so so good! Love to all of you. Armin, thank you for your vulnerability and I’m so glad you lived.

  • @kenlangley2460
    @kenlangley2460 10 месяцев назад +10

    Forrest and Armin are great! Love'em!!!

  • @ronalddepesa6221
    @ronalddepesa6221 10 месяцев назад +7

    AXPs super duo. Armin and Forrest are such an amazing 1-2 punch.

  • @Musiclovertwe
    @Musiclovertwe 10 месяцев назад +12

    Armin did amazing

  • @FakingANerve
    @FakingANerve 10 месяцев назад +6

    53:10 I don't know if this doctor hiding behind a tree analogy is a Forrest original, but good doc, is it perfect! I'm bagging that up and taking it with me! 😊👍🍻

  • @ernestschroeder9762
    @ernestschroeder9762 10 месяцев назад +6

    My ghast is truly flabbered

  • @femboomer
    @femboomer 10 месяцев назад +18

    Excellent episode, thanks to you both for bringing clear, reasoned answers to good questions as well as nonsensical ones. As a Canadian too Jon embarrasses with his bigoted, homophobic, and sycophantic crap. He answers his own question about why we care what others think. Bring back Armin and Forrest together as often as possible.

    • @maxrichards3881
      @maxrichards3881 5 месяцев назад

      Jon is the kind of guy who votes for Steven Harper...

  • @standance9044
    @standance9044 10 месяцев назад +63

    Dave was all over the place. Another nice theist desperately trying to save his faith

    • @TheSnoeedog
      @TheSnoeedog 10 месяцев назад +12

      ...there ain't no hate like Christian love...

    • @utes5532
      @utes5532 10 месяцев назад +12

      You could tell he was struggling to reconcile his faith with his rational thinking.

    • @ARoll925
      @ARoll925 10 месяцев назад +12

      Yep, very sad how religion will fuck with a human mind, poor guy, if he heard a Muslim spouting this maybe it would click how bad his thought process is

    • @jaclo3112
      @jaclo3112 10 месяцев назад +7

      He wasn't nice at all. He was downright rude and disrespectful by refusing to answer questions and ignore what the other person was saying. Rude rude rude. The christian male grew up with religion but no manners.

    • @joelonsdale
      @joelonsdale 10 месяцев назад +4

      I didn't think he was nice, I thought he was polite but irrational and sinister.

  • @e1lioT
    @e1lioT 10 месяцев назад +8

    I would always listen to these hosts. Thank you both

  • @BlessYourHeart254
    @BlessYourHeart254 8 месяцев назад +2

    Armin, your answer to the first call is inspiring and spot-on ❤ We need to respect each other and be there for one another regardless of belief system.

  • @LogicAndReason2025
    @LogicAndReason2025 10 месяцев назад +3

    Alan WI - I have found that the best way to deal with people with stubbornly held opposing views, is to write down the two polar opposite ends of a subject; Then REFUSE to DEBATE them. Next make a list of things that you each agree on related to the subject. Then say you are only willing to discuss compromise that can achieve common goals. Whenever your opponent drifts back to stubborn debate, start back at the first step. People can only convince themselves.

  • @josephrusso7069
    @josephrusso7069 10 месяцев назад +9

    These two are amazing together!

  • @GRDwashere
    @GRDwashere 10 месяцев назад +9

    The fool says in his heart "there is no god" but the wise man says in his mind "there may or may not be a god, but there is no independently verifiable evidence to meet the burden carried by the positive truth claim that there is a god".

  • @dragonlordxakel
    @dragonlordxakel 10 месяцев назад +13

    1:00:30 This rant by Forrest sums up the entire problem with religions. I'm onboard with the anti-theist comment he made.

  • @daniellepearsall4978
    @daniellepearsall4978 10 месяцев назад +9

    Great show Armin and Forrest. (This is Danielle who sent in the superchat at 2:08:30) I had no intent on coming out to my friend (or myself) when I did. It was more of a surprise to me than to her when I did. I broke down completely and it looked like someone having a seizure as my body fought to avoid having it come out with half of my brain trying to force it out and the other half trying to keep it hidden. I literally fell out of my chair, could not see or hear, was crying but could not stop it from coming out. After she heard what I said she said you are trans and you don't even know it and I realized it was true. (I did not say I am trans, but I said a bunch of things that I had never told anyone, many of which I had not even admitted to myself that made it obvious to her that I was trans)

  • @user-qg9ck9de8d
    @user-qg9ck9de8d 10 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks hosts. You are much appreciated.
    Armin thank you for sharing your story. Wow man.

  • @frankiewilson819
    @frankiewilson819 8 месяцев назад +4

    Armin was amazing. I can't wait to see him back on the show. Forrest.. once again you knocked it out of the park my guy. Wonderful show, kudos all around.

  • @ericdunthorne1981
    @ericdunthorne1981 6 месяцев назад +3

    Dave is a great example of what happens when one has a lack of critical thinking skills.

  • @chfr927
    @chfr927 10 месяцев назад +8

    You don’t hide to get true love from another. Your spouse shows up every day. Your parents and friends are there for you. You don’t love them more by their absence. In fact, you would love them less or not at all. Love is a relationship that requires actually being there (or existing). You don’t lose free will by knowing something exists. I know my wife exists and I CHOOSE of my own free will each day to love and she does likewise. The bizarre mental hoops theists jump through to try and rationalize their indoctrination to a man made myth is astounding.

  • @jaysonking9183
    @jaysonking9183 10 месяцев назад +5

    You guys were on Fire today ! Absolutely amazing. I love your passion.

  • @brandonshea4366
    @brandonshea4366 10 месяцев назад +4

    Forrest went Berserker Mode this episode. Lol never seen him so heated.(Though admittedly he had a very normal reaction to what he was subjected to.)

    • @scottjohnson7248
      @scottjohnson7248 10 месяцев назад +1

      Excusing slavery is his hot button. The past caller he referred to who said being a slave can make you more of a man was the first time I saw him lose it. I think it was with Johnny P. Angel. It doesn't surprise me that he remembers it so well. That guy was a piece of work.

  • @elmartell5724
    @elmartell5724 10 месяцев назад +11

    Dave-
    I could just as easily say, "I have faith that men are smarter than women and I'm just gonna accept that because I don't want to wait the rest of my life for science to prove me wrong!"
    What a payhetic, bs excuse for just picking whatever makes you feel good.

    • @bazingaburg8264
      @bazingaburg8264 10 месяцев назад +3

      We all like to think that we value truth, so does he. Turns out a comforting narrative matters more to him. Imagine my surprise.

  • @JonathanChaotic
    @JonathanChaotic 8 месяцев назад +3

    Honestly Alan's situation damn near brought me to tears. I'm scared for when a friend of mine is in the same situation because his belief is blind and he always just tells me to go to God n all that. Hope all has gone well for you Alan.

  • @nazone7527
    @nazone7527 10 месяцев назад +5

    Definitely two of my favorite hosts! Awesome duo!

  • @NathanielHarari
    @NathanielHarari 10 месяцев назад +8

    Wow, Armin @ 1:20:24 - mad respect. 👍

  • @pererau
    @pererau 10 месяцев назад +27

    When I left Mormonism and was starting to investigate the Bible to figure out into which brand of Christianity I should land, I stumbled onto that verse from 2 Kings 2:23-24, and that pretty much sealed the deal for Atheism.

    • @Mentos6
      @Mentos6 10 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂😂 I forgot all about that one!

    • @AtheistCulturalMarxist
      @AtheistCulturalMarxist 10 месяцев назад

      When I read some of the atheist most holy book the talmud I finally understood why atheism exist.

    • @Wiggimus
      @Wiggimus 10 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@AtheistCulturalMarxistThere's no such thing as an "atheist holy book".

    • @joshsheridan9511
      @joshsheridan9511 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@AtheistCulturalMarxist 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@AtheistCulturalMarxist Are you saying the Talmud - a book central to Judaism - is an atheist book? Are you high?

  • @outercat
    @outercat 10 месяцев назад +5

    armin is such a great host! love these two ❤

  • @joannad5374
    @joannad5374 10 месяцев назад +4

    Faith is the excuse people give when they don't have a good reason

  • @andrewabuckle8207
    @andrewabuckle8207 10 месяцев назад +6

    Hail, mighty Roland!

  • @jamiegallier2106
    @jamiegallier2106 10 месяцев назад +7

    Awesome show! Forrest has become so skillful at hosting and Armin is always a delight- insightful and comedic. They fell into a great rhythm during the show, and worked well keeping callers on track. Of all the trollish or dishonest callers on this episode, Dave/CT was the worst. That tone, that willing to converse nice guy xian act is just that- an act. It’s a sales pitch routine just like any other.

    • @scottjohnson7248
      @scottjohnson7248 10 месяцев назад +2

      They did a great job tag teaming with each seamlessly picking up where the other left off. I think the word is simpatico.

  • @kohmak
    @kohmak 10 месяцев назад +59

    Religious fundamentalists are adept at answering questions that they weren't asked while avoiding the questions they were asked.

    • @mattg6390
      @mattg6390 10 месяцев назад +14

      That’s the first thing that they learn how to do in their Apologetics 101 class

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one 10 месяцев назад +12

      Just like politicians :D

    • @t800fantasm2
      @t800fantasm2 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@cy-one and for pretty much the same reasons... power and control....

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@t800fantasm2 I'm more and more convinced they're just sociopaths to differing extends :D

    • @cnault3244
      @cnault3244 10 месяцев назад +3

      They are also adept at creating their own definitions of words.

  • @nessaarandur7740
    @nessaarandur7740 10 месяцев назад +4

    Great duo!

  • @thickerconstrictor9037
    @thickerconstrictor9037 10 месяцев назад +22

    Dave I realize that we use the term faithful when it comes to our spouses, but I don't have blind Faith that my spouse is not cheating on me. I have a trust based on evidence. And it absolutely could be incorrect. I'm not absolutely certain that she is not cheating but based on our relationship, based on our history based on our interactions the time we spend together her set of morals and the claims of her feelings towards me and seeing her actions match those feelings then I feel justified to trust that she is not cheating. So I make a determination based on a plethora of evidence and at the end of the day that belief could be incorrect but based on the evidence I've collected it is justified to believe that she is most likely being faithful to me. I have seen no evidence of that magnitude to warrant any belief in a god

    • @hayuseen6683
      @hayuseen6683 10 месяцев назад +3

      Plus you've met your spouse, as opposed to being told about a spouse with magic powers living on the moon that loves you from a book written thousands of years ago.

    • @bazingaburg8264
      @bazingaburg8264 10 месяцев назад +2

      It's the classic "you wouldn't know her, she goes to another school."

  • @Leith_Crowther
    @Leith_Crowther 10 месяцев назад +5

    Armin and Forrest are such nice guys, but they will not entertain a dodge the same way a lot of other hosts might. They won’t let a caller abruptly change the subject, and they demand callers give straight answers to direct questions. It helps that when the roles are reversed, the hosts practice what they demand of the callers.

  • @yetufekci1
    @yetufekci1 10 месяцев назад +4

    Forrest and Armin are great together! Keep up doing great work chaps!

  • @Bluephantompleco88
    @Bluephantompleco88 10 месяцев назад +4

    Grate show guys, glad to see Armin back

  • @florianopolis6299
    @florianopolis6299 9 месяцев назад +2

    Oh so late to the party...
    Both of you are really great together! Awesome show!

  • @cambriaofthevastoceans6721
    @cambriaofthevastoceans6721 10 месяцев назад +5

    Apparently Monkey King (Wes) has previously claimed to be suffering from mental illness, i think it would be better to avoid their calls, and redirect them to more appropriate services.

  • @gregmwheeler
    @gregmwheeler 10 месяцев назад +4

    Just listening to the podcast of this show, now. Great stuff from start to finish. Forrest and Armin are a fine combination. I especially loved Armin explaining the COST of having beliefs not based in reality. ‘Your low standards for truth are hurting the rest of us, dude’.

  • @paco-8-8
    @paco-8-8 10 месяцев назад +5

    I love how Michael kept saying that Moses wrote the laws but conveniently left out the part that Yahweh dictated them to him 😂😂😂

  • @randommemeaddict249
    @randommemeaddict249 5 месяцев назад +2

    Forest has the most contaigous smile

  • @paulrichards6894
    @paulrichards6894 10 месяцев назад +4

    these were a genius pairing

  • @camerondeans9056
    @camerondeans9056 10 месяцев назад +5

    My personal favourite reply to pascal's wager is, what if there is a god and he will send to hell anyone who is gullible enough to believe in him based on the useless evidence he has provided for his existence

  • @gretam3260
    @gretam3260 10 месяцев назад +3

    Here the both of you again, just love it! Great to see you Armin and Forest !

  • @niceshirt8559
    @niceshirt8559 9 месяцев назад +2

    their bookshelves line up nicely

  • @brucetopping248
    @brucetopping248 10 месяцев назад +23

    love that we've got an ex christian and an ex muslim. Also need an ex jewish person, and maybe an ex-hindu or something to form the future panel for AE. awesome work.

    • @scottjohnson7248
      @scottjohnson7248 10 месяцев назад +11

      Forrest is not an ex-Christian

    • @The_Crimson_Witch
      @The_Crimson_Witch 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​@scottjohnson7248 Yeah, he never believed in god.
      He did however believe in ghosts for a while.

    • @jamiegallier2106
      @jamiegallier2106 10 месяцев назад +3

      His father was xian and mother pagan, he grew up practicing paganism/spiritualism. It is cool to have hosts from all these varied backgrounds, they have the bases covered.

  • @BaronVonQuiply
    @BaronVonQuiply 10 месяцев назад +3

    33:53 As a long time user of musical electronics manufactured by the Roland Corporation (owners of BOSS as well), I would appreciate it if someone could ask the goblin when the next GT-1000 patch comes out because I have a bug to report.

  • @gonnn777F
    @gonnn777F 10 месяцев назад +8

    Friends who try to enforce you a ´´ not recognized religion´´... It happened to me... It's really disgusting.... Forrest you've described it perfectly!!!! Bravo!!!!

  • @Petter_Flemberg
    @Petter_Flemberg 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great show :)

  • @johnmartin2586
    @johnmartin2586 10 месяцев назад +4

    I'm a native from Canada. The residential school killed a lot of children plus raped, molested, and physical abuse. Kids were killed and bodies buried on property then tell parents child ran away. Rcmp also abused

    • @General_Idea
      @General_Idea 10 месяцев назад

      For those who might not know the residential schools for First Nations kids were run mostly by catholic organizations

  • @DeathwishDare
    @DeathwishDare 10 месяцев назад +3

    When Forrest said 'gibberish' at 1 hour and 23-ish minutes in, the caption said 'Irish' instead 😂

    • @MarcColten73
      @MarcColten73 10 месяцев назад

      I had to back up, turn on captions just to see it for myself. Hysterical

  • @keniag5
    @keniag5 10 месяцев назад +2

    Yesss! New epidose with 2 of my fav! 🎉

  • @morganramsay7628
    @morganramsay7628 10 месяцев назад

    Great hosts! Super team!

  • @smochygrice465
    @smochygrice465 10 месяцев назад +5

    Good Tuesday morning 🌞 AXP crew, fans ans theists ❤

    • @jonclark8252
      @jonclark8252 10 месяцев назад +2

      HEY THERE SMOCHY :)
      Hope all is well

    • @smochygrice465
      @smochygrice465 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@jonclark8252 Never had a bad morning.
      And same to you mate.

  • @LogicAndReason2025
    @LogicAndReason2025 10 месяцев назад +7

    Whenever someone threatens me with their hell, I ask: "what if there really is a god, and she love skeptics and heathens, and hates self-righteous busy-bodies?"

    • @ACharmedEarthling
      @ACharmedEarthling 3 месяца назад +1

      If only that worked. In reality if you say that, they'll just start spouting Bible verses ad nauseum.

  • @mileskeller5244
    @mileskeller5244 10 месяцев назад +2

    I enjoy the sound of coqui in the backround on the call from Puerto rico