Humans: Born To Hate God?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Hate towards god is discussed in a bizarre call.
This clip is from The Atheist Experience, Episode 27.49 for December 10, 2023 with Forrest Valkai and Johnny P. Angel!
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When he said "quite possibly" to them asking if moth man is real IS HILARIOUS LMAO
And that he could be a fallen angel lol
@crumbtember
"Possibly some sort of fallen angel"
I lost it right there
6:40 (6:23 for more context)
@@crumbtember "quite possibly, he could be a fallen angel *_of some type_* " -- i wished they asked him how many TYPES of fallen angels are there?!? :))
@irrelevant_noob
Well...
One of them at least, is very moth-like
Ray is the kind of guy that believes what he is told to believe. I am sure you could sell him bottled air.
Bottled air!!!!! Do you have some?
I've been after that for ages, yes finally 🙌 bottled air.😊
Sell him a pen first.
Holy Spirit? Got Lemon?
Dehydrated water.
Bottled 70+% nitrogen for his tires?
Ray became a troll when he tumbled to the fact that his identifying a fictional villain he didn’t _hate_ destroyed his entire argument.
Ray is the kind of guy that doesn't know how to think. He just feels things really, really hard.
@@Giddyup777 Just watch the video. He’s an idiot.
@@Giddyup777Ray’s entire side of the conversation is documented evidence. 😂
@@Giddyup777 "How do you know Ray is the kind of guy that doesn't know how to think? "
I guess we can assume you didn't listen to the video...
Yes. Also known as a 'slow learner'.
@@Giddyup777You're kidding, right?
My favorite part was Forrest admitting he was going to talk about fisting. 🤣
Hilarious! One of the best shows ever.Johnny:I don't think Forrest wants to talk about fisting.Forrest laughing and responding: No I do want to talk about it!😂😂
17:15... plus later at 28:17 for more concrete talking points. :)
Ray is on the internet.
Ray sees something on the internet that offends him, The Atheist Experience.
Ray stops what he was doing and calls an atheist show to tell them about how he is offended.
Ray is Christian. Don't be like Ray.
Ray is affronted and offended by everybody and anybody who doesn't share his opinions. That's why he had to mention Hilary.
Ray sad...
Ray mad
@@drsatan3231Ray bad
@@logicsetsyoufree9052 hmm, that too
Johnny's sarcasm is the main reason I listened to a third of this call. Ray just had nothing to bring except platitudes.
I'm not sure Ray could escape a room with 4 open doors and cardboard walls.
The problem comes when people like Ray comes along who can’t grasp the many levels of Johnny’s sarcasm & general humour
It’s wild how Christians can say such awful things to & about atheists, about what we believe & who we hate, & that we deserve to be tortured for eternity, but walk away convinced that atheists are rude & antagonizing them!
The host missed an opportunity to open with "Hi Lee, it seems you have no choice but to have a conversation with us at this moment in time" though 😆
Actually, humans are born to not even think about “God”. I can say that as a human born in a non religious family that hadn’t thought about “God” until someone said the word. I was just a human living on a planet and not knowing or thinking about why
Same here… I am so lucky to have had parents who never mentioned a god and when we learned about such from others, they continued to never mention it.
@@dorsdonstowe9403Why should we worship a god that has a pit of torture in the first place? What reasons do we have to believe that he exists? Are there any lines of evidence or logical grounds for the existence of the Christian god?
@@user-be7er3wq5p Sin = death and you've sinned plenty. You need a savior to save you from hell. The only reason anybody goes to hell is because they refuse to be saved from hell.
GOD DID IT. GOD declares we know he exists by what has been made and we’re “without excuse” to think otherwise (Romans 1:20). When we observe what has been made in just the human being ALONE it begs the questions:
1. Who thought that we should have eyes to see?
2. Who thought that we should have ears to hear?
3. Who thought that we should have nose to smell?
4. Who thought that we should have a mouth to eat?
5. Who thought that we should have legs to walk?
6. Who thought that we should have a brain to think?
7. Who thought that a skeleton was needed to anchor muscles?
8. Who thought that we should have hands to grasp objects?
9. Who thought that we should be able to reproduce?
10. Where did our emotions (love, joy, hope, envy, etc) come from?
11. What produced our bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory,
reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous,
body (skin), etc?
Tell me which natural cause is responsible as the answer to the questions above (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, evolution, bottom up production, nothing). Which one had the required INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES & MEANS to produce the human body and it’s consciousness.
SUMMARY: GOD DID IT. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD.
Now you clearly understand that God is the only RATIONAL OPTION as the cause/source for not only the human being, but 9 million DIFFERENT animals and hundreds of thousands of plants. There is no escape for the atheist. Atheism is the equivocation of a mud puddle producing this world and everything in it. These IRREFUTABLE FACTS above prove that atheism is nothing but stone cold idiocy.
FIN
@@dorsdonstowe9403 🤣
@@dorsdonstowe9403 So I could lie about God by, say, accusing him of giving me a false prophecy, and I could still get into Heaven?
The caller basically said “love and sexuality might be two separate things to you, but it’s not to me.”That’s a sick thought.
Yeah. I wonder if he’s thought through what that really means?
If I may “read” Ray’s mind:
Ray - “I refuse to honestly engage in this conversation because I am scared to DEATH that you will make sense and I won’t be able to dodge a real, intelligent conclusion.”
In other words, he’s like many Christians who cannot step away from their religion to examine their religion.
Which ray? U or him or other guy 🍌?
Once you convince people that they're immortal it's very hard for them to lose those beliefs I guess
That's every theist!
@TheTruthKiwi Both immortal and in terrible danger at the mercy of the only power in the universe that can harm them.
So both confident and terrified at the same time. Confidently terrified.
@@Jrpyify What a terrible way to live. So sad. I feel sorry for them, literally living their lives for their "afterlife".
Funny how callers like Ray become deliberately obtuse once they realise that they are about to be knocked on the head with logic.
The words "this guy votes" keeps scrambling through my brain. Oy ......
Mine too 😅
And I'm German
You guys are deeply screwed
These words are even scarier "A major political party in the most powerful country in the world is directly pandering to people like Ray"
Forrest’s frustration in the first 10 minutes was incredible. I felt like I was right there in this conversation reacting with him 😂
Ray is like a child with his beliefs. He really thinks we live in this supernatural world with all these crazy things. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
As is every theist.
Ray is a true representative of WV, 12,000,000 people 3 last names.
And yet he sounds old af
Honestly, in my opinion, Ray is a perfect example of your average American Christian caller.
Yup! Supremely uneducated
@@TheZombieSaints Did the chemicals in your soulless atheist skull cause those delusions about religious people? What non-chemically induced part of your mind freely chooses objective rational thoughts?
Watch the atheist choke.
@@EdithBromfeldyou haven't established he's delusional
So that's another bare assertion logical fallacy
I've been to church as a kid and honestly I wouldn't bat an eye if you left it at "american christian"
@@EdithBromfeld Hate to break it to you but you are soulless too.
Not an honest caller by any means... He dodged every single question because they called his BS in the very first 10 seconds of the call.
The xtian way
Love how Johnny P was so casually nerdy around the 8min mark with his knowledge & description of Sauron
Spending 10 minutes trying to get someone to admit they don't think Sauron is real accomplishes nothing but bringing you 10 minutes closer to death.
It's about the journey, not the destination. You may have lost the deep analysis on fisting 😂
@@manueltrueba8399 That 10 minute journey was hilarious!!
You need to stop and smell the roses! I don't regret that ten minutes at all
I just dont understand how this caller could be real, this is insane.
America scares me
America scares me deeply
This is by far the best clip in forever if not ever! Chupakapras, Darth Vader, fisting, I mean this one has it all!!!
You cant have a rationally logical discussion with someone who, by all appearances, does not or cannot employ reasoned logic.
Exactly. They didn't arrive at this belief by logic, so they can't be reasoned with by logic.
Ray suffered long-term oxygen deprivation at some point.
I think auto-erotic asphyxiation is his kink he just took it too far
He has two brain cells left, and they’re fighting over second place and third place.
Higher apes, higher apes... the caller sounds like a higher ape all right, an ape that's high on something.
Forrest made laugh so hard I choked on my Keto snack mix 😅
Keto snack mix? That's beef jerky, right?
@classicsciencefictionhorro1665 it's worse! 🤣 Nature's Garden Keto Snack Mix if you're curious.
The guy tries to gish gallop and dodge, spits out long debunked apologetics and strawmen, then complains about being cut off when the hosts won't let him. He's too far gone for this conversation.
I get the message, Ray was born to hate God and then learned to hate lots of other things for no good reason.
Aside from that, this was a hysterically funny conversation.
I never thought I'd hear Any Rand brought up in the same conversation as fisting.😂 That was worth the price of admission.
Ray was born to hate god and then learned to hate everyone now hate god.
No, it is absolutely horrifying. A human being, with one of the best brains on the planet, has had all reason, both moral and intellectual, is totally snuffed out. The result is a god-robot that can murder on command. He can't even parse the idea that hating superman or whatever fictional character is ridiculous. He can't parse fiction from reality. It is really chilling.
Im with Ray on this one actually. I too got into Fisting Club. Its not something im particularly into, im just trying to widen the circle of my friends.
Brilliant! I’m stealing that!
Just don't try and join the Pineapple Club🥴
@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708 o dear.... 🤣
I see what you did there....
I'm perturbed. I'm not gonna live long enough to get my spaceship because of people like him holding us back for thousands of years. 🚀 🚀
Yup
Definitely don’t blame yourself
Something the caller said kinda slipped under the radar, when he said he wanted to tell them the “good news”: 1) god is sovereign and he chooses who he will save. 2) you can’t be saved unless god “opens your heart.” I wish they had tried to ask him, in what possible universe is this good news? It means we are utterly helpless in the hands of this god. This is not “limited free will,” this is despair, where my only option is to desperately beg god to choose me. What a way to live! No wonder he assumes everyone hates god. If you could prove to me that exact god existed, I would most certainly hate him/it.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who did a double take there. I guess they just zoned out because a Christian bringing you "the good news" is such a cliché. I was zoning out myself until I repeated the words in my head for a second and arrived at the same conclusion as you: "HOW IS THAT GOOD NEWS?!"
TBH, I think Forrest and Johnny were pursuing a different line of thought, and they wanted to stick with what they were trying to talk about (though, as it turned out, the caller made that impossible). I can see that. But the statement about god's sovereignty was a real "wait a second" moment for me, especially since delivering this good news was his explicit reason for calling. @@bobthebox2993
So glad there are captions on youtube, don't think I could have understood a word Ray said without em. I'm surprised the hosts actually ended up understanding him.
If you live with an accent long enough, you know how to understand it. I have no idea how people can understand many people from Scotland.
"I've studied ALL the World's religions, Atheism... Agnos..... Wait what?
First off, Every time I watch these videos, someone comes in and says they "know/study" ALL the religions. And I'm always very hard-pressed to think they've studied anything at all.
Then they claim that Atheism is a religion. How many times do we need to hear this, as they clearly never get that it is not, nor never will be a religion?
You gotta admire his dedication to studying all the religions. He obviously spent all his life studying he has no time for anything else, that's why he never heard of Sauron
'We have BOTH kinds of music here. Country AND western' vibes.
Johnny saying "oh boy" when Ray brings up Ayn Rand 😂
Nothing more clearly demonstrates that someone hasn't raised kids or animals than their insistence that consciousness, morality, etc, are instant effects that didn't arise from a more simple version.
Ray forgot the first rule about Fisting Club: never talk about Fisting Club. I truly hope he never forgets the 2nd rule: cut your fingernails.
Ngl, this sounds exactly like dementia, my gradma has. It's just sad and feels like bullying to even have such complex conversations with such a person. Spacialised care is what they need.
He does sound extremely old
There's a reason that Johnny picked that particular movie
Yeah, 100%. They should vet the callers better. This old dude has either been drinking on the porch all afternoon, or he’s of limited capacity. Either way, he’s not a great guest to put into the ring, 2 against 1, with two guys half his age who have these conversations every day.
I don't know Johnny. You say "ew didn't get anything" from the call but I find callers like this to be absolutely hilarious. They're so misguided and wrong and it's funny
Dude, this was so bad I feel guilty for laughing though 😬 this person was SOOOO ill equipped for this sort of conversation.
I feel sorry for the guy. He's been horribly misguided throughout his life.
This was a troll, right? I find it very difficult to believe that someone could be this clueless.
When Christians say the words “reason and logic” . . . . . . . .
Like a vampire saying "garlic sunshine".
Nobody knows anything about his Christian god until they're told about it.
Most American Christians only know of the cherry picked parts from the bible their parents, preachers and Sunday school teachers have told them about, the vast majority of them have never actually read it for themselves.
Then they still don't know.
Ask them ☺️
That's why God gave us the Bible after sin caused separation of God and humanity.
@@dorsdonstowe9403
What exactly are you referring to when you use the word God?
What is God?
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 God is who and what the Bible says he is. Do your own homework; maybe you'll learn something.
Ray isn't smart enough for these kinds of conversations.
I feel like Ray isn’t smart enough to tie his shoelaces.
I've studied screenwriting extensively and there's a cinematic term called the suspension of disbelief. This is when the audience is so captivated by the fictional story that the fictional story appears to feel like reality. From that perspective, it's quite possible to hate a literary or fictional character. When I watched The Shawshank Redemption I hated the character who assaulted Andy Dufrene and I hated the Warden for using Andy to launder money and for keeping him from fighting for his freedom even after he found out Andy might be innocent. In the movie Gladiator I hated Commodus who was played by Joaquin Phoenix. When Maximus played by Russel Crowe got the best of him in the end I felt a sense of satisfaction. I don't know if the God of the Bible or Quran is true or not but if he or she would torture people for an eternity for finite sins or disbelief I do feel hate for that character, even if it's fictional.
But at least you know that Joaquin Phoenix is an actor and isn't actually Commodus. There are people who exist, like Ray, who don't know the difference, like the assholes who picked on Ahmed Best or Jake Lloyd because of their characters.
By the way it seems that Reddit on mobile is cutting off the rest of your comment. Couldn't read it unless I went to PC.
@@david2869 Yeah, that's sad and unfortunate. I saw Joaquin Phoenix in Walk The Line and I loved his performance as Johnny Cash. He made me appreciate Johnny Cash.
I find it funny when I debate my Christian friends or family who supported me before I turned away from the faith that when they can’t come up with a retort to my claims they tell me I’m sad or angry at god, and I tell them a. Im happier and less stressed after not worrying about my soul being damned and b. I don’t believe in a god at all. But they insist that I do deep down
Because they for sure know you better than you know yourself
Edit: I'm sarcastic
@@1Alex117 Nah... That's just because they can't think for themselves.
@@1Alex117No one knows anyone better than they know themselves, because no one can ever be totally sure they actually know anything about anyone else.
Christians (and most theists) don't believe in a god. They believe in God. You're just another clueless atheist dope who cannot justify your blind atheist belief position.
No, that's just because you took the burden of your just duty off your shoulders. Any removed weight makes
one feel better, but the problem is that daddy is coming home and you'll have to face him for going AWOL.
We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere.
Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville? I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we?
Oh, yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have any white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...
"NO! I didn't learn! I've been given knowledge!" 😂😂😂
10:50 “I don’t hate him ‘cos I’m commanded to love my enemies”
Forrest: “Fuck me, dude”.
That’s it, I’m done here. This one’s a lost cause.
The appropriate response at that point should have been, "Fine, do you love him/Angel Eyes/Saran/etc."
@@tye64Sauron*
Lol Johnny is the perfect balance of condescending sarcasm that totally flies over the head of his guests. It is very entertaining.
Imagine someone having replaced their entire identity with theocratic conservative talking points and propaganda.
Ray:
Hahaha Forest's reaction to "At least thats what I hear." was pretty great!😂
23:38 that victimization of self: that's taught to them in church. They're taught that people will attack their religion, what they aren't told to differentiate from is when someone rejects the religion it's not a personal affront. I think due to the fact that it's hammered into a religious person's mind that 'turning your back on god' is turning your back on everyone who thinks that guy is real. So it's a "I'm the victim bc I have to die for my religion and YOU non-believer are just an attacker who has not yet attacked."
It's something that has to be pointed out occasionally to Christians when they get upset that Christian trolls posts are taken apart and heavily criticised. It's not because the post is Christian.
His reaction to the comment that "everyone is born hating god" was 100% me at that same moment lol!
This feels like when I try to expose hypocrites and lairs online...
I slap objective facts onto the table. And they start talking about unrelated stuff, accusations and superstition.
I understand very well what you mean here. I was once told that I was more horrible than Hitler because she no longer had a solid answer. 😂😂😂😂
Have you had a conversation with Jim/Edith yet? It's much the same.
@@MrCanis4 I amusingly get that a lot.
And then OTHER apologists go "NO-ONE CALLS YOU THAT!" like... the post is RIGHT THERE... it didn't go anywhere... xD
It's very much a tapdance of:
Here is my objective evidence. Can you disprove it? - No.
Here is YOUR excuses. I debunked the sheet out of it. Do you have ANYTHING else to try and prove you are right? - No.
So, to recap: I am ALWAYS right. You are ALWAYS wrong. - Yes.
Then WHY can't you admit that? - Because you're a meaniepants and made me cry! You make me LOOK bad! And therefore: You CAN'T be right, as you make me feel bad!
They always come down to having NOTHING. Then are LIVID that I "won't let them win". Because that's "the right thing to do". Yet... ALL they do, is come each day, and are wrong. Very "2+2=5!" EACH day. Then get SUPER mad that I keep saying "No it's not.". If you want to be right... start BEING right. Regurgitating lies never gets anywhere.
@@nealjroberts4050Doesn't ring a bell... I mostly expose criminal and/or bigoted artists that lie.
I prove I'm objectively right. They catbuttface and regurgitate the same lies I already debunked. As: They don't have to be right. They just have to be louder than me.
@@Kattlarv
Ooh, you're in for a treat then.
"Mothman might be a fallen angel" is SUCH a hilariously insane take
Laughed sooooo hard...Yosemite Sam? Do you hate him? Bwahahahaha!
Ray illustrates the finding that belief in religion often leaves you open to belief in other bollocks(Mothman, cryptids etc). He is offended on behalf of his fictional 'god'.
I wish I lived in the alternative universe where Forrest got to talk about fisting, I can't imagine it would have been less productive than the conversation we ended up getting here.
I just love the pairing of Johnny and Forrest! 👏 👏
Haha Forrest Valkai is great! This stream was great! If only it didn’t start at 2am for me!
These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.
These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
Ray’s voice sounds like it’s right from old Apollo recordings
You really can't have a conversation that requires critical thinking with someone who is not used to thinking for themself. This was just sad. This guy has likely never encountered a non believer in real life. He was just not equipped for this conversation.
Ray: "God is sovereign. God is love. I follow god yet nearly every word that falls from my lips is dripping with hatred".
This call made me profoundly sad. They walk among us.
caller is the epitome of WV. i shed a tear.
Not quite as common in the 2 panhandles but unfortunately pretty common in the southern regions. We have a lot of people that never really had a proper education. Fortunately most don't believe in Mothman.😂
9.35 and forward 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I was trying to paint god dammit!!! I'm dead,!! 😅😅
LOL....amazing. The ending....pure wholesome RUclips content. A deserved thumbs up gents. LOL.........
That was hard to get through. Poor Ray, lets just say he wasn't exactly blessed in the neurons department. It was like listening to somebody kick puppies for half an hour.
Ray sounds like my great uncle. Every movie is real, there are no actors.
Klingons are real?
"I've come to the conclusion..."
Yes, you certainly have.
sounds like Ray likes watching 2000 Mules
This is so common, and so sad. They unironically put words and intentions in the other persons mouth, and then claim that's what is done to them.
Forrest's hair is beautiful.
Forrest is beautiful....
These conversations are painful.
Ayn Rand wasn’t an atheist. She was an Aynrandian.
Not a fan of Rand!
Mothman, the way it was originally described, was just an owl defending her nest.
Also the people who heard mothman heard a recording of a barred owl screeching and said that was the same creature.
Johnny is hilarious 😂
This is so tiring. Human beings keep moving towards becoming a less and less intelligent species.
The end of this call really made me think Johnny was going to quote Leon Phelps from The Ladies’ Man: “What is love? What is this longing in our hearts for togetherness? Is it not the sweetest flower? Does not this flower of love have the fragrant aroma of fine, fine diamonds? Does not the wind love the dirt? Is not love not unlike the unlikely not it is unlikened to? Are you with someone tonight? Do not question your love. Take your lover by the hand. Release the power within yourself. Your heard me, release the power. Tame the wild cosmos with a whisper. Conquer heaven with one intimate caress. That's right don't be shy. Whip out everything you got and do it in the butt.”
What is love? Baby, don't hurt me, baby don't hurt me no more!
“Do you hate chupacabras?”
“Well, I don’t want to be around them”
… “Fair enough” 😅
"As far as we know." 🤣 Good news, guys, if Sauron existed, he doesn't anymore, thanks to the efforts of the Fellowship.
I wonder if Ray hates Thor. Or Ishtar. Or Horus.
Ray's ignorance is astounding and depressing, but not surprising. I can't even....
I don't think I've ever laughed so hard listening to an AXP episode
It doesn't matter how long you talk to him. He's not going to get any smarter.
Ray is as bright as a rock
Ray is for sure a troll or an extremely old man.
He’s just dumb as fuck. I don’t think the host realize that some of these people are extremely fuckin ignorant.
He sounds either old or a little slow.
It's so fascinating to hear how people "think" when they have clearly not been properly educated or taught how to think critically.
Forrest: "FM, Dude"!😂😅🎉
Personally I strive to only hate that which I don't believe exists. I find that hate is an emotion that shows its best in fiction. The issue is that people aren't characters, people are very hard to hate what with having a past, mental health struggles, experiences, etc. Hate overlooks things, and there's only so much you can overlook about someone that exists without ending up lessered as a result, unless I need hate to cope or risk to have a mental breakdown I'm not going to hate anyone other than fictional characters.
I was honestly not expecting Ray to start talking about BDSM 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Only religion can distort your thinking to become like Ray.
"Worried About Ray"
Truth be told, the truth be told
I'm worried about the future holds, the future holds
I'm starting to worry about Ray
Just for anyone thinking Ray couldn't possibly be a real caller and must have been a troll I have little doubt he's real. When I lived in rural WV three decades ago I saw incredibly uneducated and simple-minded folks like him regularly. They're not necessarily bad people so much as they're just hard to find any way to relate to.
Ray was totally lying thru most of the call. Did you at least get to talk to someone simple minded like that but honest? That would have been so interesting
@@HoangNguyen-rd6qy What makes you say he was lying? Demonstrably misinformed and uniformed, absolutely; lying though? Not seeing it. I lived and grew up with people this fully in the grip of Dunning-Krueger for many years and other people in the original video posted similar experiences. I found people like Ray to be the norm or at least very typical of where I grew up in rural WV. Many places the idea of atheism is more unthinkable that child abuse, serial killers, or pretty much whatever the craziest thing you can think of is.
@@stormthrush37 Has no idea who Sauron is? Never watched any movies or read any fiction books therefore doesn't know any fictional villain? Maybe he was being honest then, because he spent his whole life studying "all the religions in the world" he had no time for anything else. If Ray was being truthful and is the norm in WV, the box office there must be doing extremely poorly, and has always been 😁
@@HoangNguyen-rd6qy I know it sounds ridiculous and I understand your skepticism, but I'm telling you, these people exist, I grew up with too many of them. My own parents are a perfect example, it's been a big deal for them to even own and have a TV in the house, that they only hook up to watch their ultra right-wing stuff that's one step above flat earther nonsense. And my parents aren't even Amish and didn't grow up Amish or anything, despite decades of trying I still haven't figured out how the hell they got so insular and kooky.
@@HoangNguyen-rd6qyChristian fundamentalists often avoid modern media, particularly films containing magic or witchcraft. It's entirely possible he's unfamiliar with LOTR and to be honest, he doesn't sound like the reading type. Besides, he did admit to having seen 'The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly', just forgotten the mentioned character.
@10:48 is the perfect encapsulation of this whole call
How dare you say Lord Vader isn't real! He is in another galaxy far far away, we know other galaxies are real, and thus Vader is real.
Johnny P is OOOOOOOZING with charisma
Even if Sauron were real, I wouldn't hate Him. He only did what He thought was best with His limited knowledge of the Music. He performed heinous acts, but it was for the g r e a t e r g o o d or whatever.. I DO however hate Morgoth for corrupting Sauron. Because of this, I actually pity Sauron to a degree.
You shouldn't hate either.
It's explained to Morgoth by Eru-Aluvitar that he didn't have free will
Everything he did was planned out by Eru-Aluvitar who was essentially playing a game of chess with himself
A lovely parallel with my namesake
Then he punished him, for something he had no control over
A lovely parallel with my namesake
Similar points were made by DJPeachCobbler in his RDR2 video but I think he took it down or it got taken down.
@@drsatan3231 Morgoth Bauglir was Mightiest of the Ainur and He alone knew the fullest purpose of The One.
Since the beginning, all beings under Eru possessed free will, as Morgoth was able to create discord in The Music.
Or at least that's what the Fair Folk say.
@@ktiemz Then Ilúvatar spoke, and he said: ‘Mighty are the Ainur, and mightiest among them is Melkor; but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that I am Ilúvatar, those things that ye have sung, I will show them forth, that ye may see what ye have done. *_And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite_*
For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined
Why do they always have the same time of voice? That slow pace, like their brain are on a delay
Faith requires no logic - just roll with it and be part of the kewl kids
An Emperor's New Clothes style fear of exclusion.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer Reported for Hate speech or graphic violence.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer Reported for Hate speech or graphic violence.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer Should we ask GOD why he isn't timely with ASK anything in my name and I shall do it?
Wow. Not surprisingly I guess Ray jumped the rails pretty quickly in the call.
Sheesh
Hey Ray, how can you hate your "creator", the fundamental laws of physics, chemistry and biology!!. No Floaty Sky magician out there Ray. Angel Eyes is more plausible of existing than Floaty Boy !🤣🤣
"let's get down to brass tax, how do you feel about mothman" Johnny you murderered poor Ray 😂
🐻 Somebody owes me a new t-shirt... I got coffee all down mine. Genuine spit take by the time we got to Sauron. Does this guy even know what literature and fiction are?!😅
(It's still ok for me to love Paddington though, right?) 🤔🐻
EDIT: Two t-shirts. That's why you shouldn't comment until you've watched the whole vid... we hadn't even got to the sex stuff yet. That's it. From now on I'm not watching this show without a bib.
Wow. Just wow. Ray seems to have internalized every stereotype ever uttered.