I hear ya, but I cannot stand re-enactments. Always felt it was creepy. But research takes a lot more time and money than fourth rate reenactment ‘actors’.
How do they always pick the perfect narrators for these types of shows? "And the next day, she was drowned in the Both". No other voice could have made that so calm and spooky like that.
I remember being fascinated by this case when I was a boy. Forensic science owes a lot to Bernard Spilsbury. A great man. Some crimes are more sophisticated and so does forensics become just that.
It’s been 6 hours and I have been glued and held captive by this narrator, the stories, the production and the drawings. This is the most amazing and engaging series I have ever watched
This was one of my favourite cases of Sir Bernard. Just imagine the pure theatre of the trial and how he demonstrated how the murders took place with a bath in the courtroom.
Hats off and salute to to Bernard Spillsbury. Never giving up and not allowing that sick dude claim his innocence and just roam free. 🇬🇧👏 That is justice!
This was riveting to watch . so sad that silsbury committed suicide and he lost his two boys .for a man who did so much it saddens me//thankyou i wish there were more off these to watch x
Pity they didn't mention Edith Peglar, one of Smith's wives with the difference that he was returning to her and she is probably the only woman whom he didn't rob/murdered.
Yes no mention of her, in a book it is mentioned that she was a plain working class woman whom he cared about , his grudge and disdain was for the so called ladies of the prevlidged class..
@@maria-yr4jq He did not have a grudge against, or distain the women, he 'married' and either deserted them, or killed them, for their money. Edith Peglar, one of his bigamous wives, was lucky as she had no money worth killing for, and was probably aware of what he was doing.
The backlash they suffered was brutal. A purple ribbon was like a red rag in a whole world of bulls! I always try to remember to wear purple on Int. Women's Day.
How things have changed in 100 years. Many women are delighted not to get married today. No more being trapped, used as a human incubator, forced to live on your husband's earnings.
Okay, ya'll gave this man too much credit. 😂 He wasn't "hypnotizing" in any way. He simply preyed upon older, unmarried women who lived during a time where they were told their youth and marital status determined their value and respectability.
So true about women for women until this day so many young ladies in their 20tys are into fillings, botox, breast augmentation it is sad this is still factor
@@spinrash6000 Women mainly don’t do those things for men. They do them for themselves, and to feel more confident in their appearance. Whether you want to believe it or not, appearance and how you take care of your body matters in many aspects of society.
Thank you, what a sad end for such a brilliant man. He’d lost his two sons and, as there was no mention of a wife, I guess he’d lost her as well. How truly sad for him 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I agree with you today things are ridiculous towards certain degree. But years ago there was a show Called unsolved mystery With Robert Stack he had a wonderful way of speaking and it wasn’t over the top like stuff this today. Maybe you should check that old show up so you know that all American stuff isn’t crap
Seen and read about this case many times. He married and then took all his wife's money. Then abandoned her and ran off. No contact details etc.. Then bumps into her 2 --3 years later. Makes up a blatant lie of how he had been searching for her and she is overjoyed at his re- emergence..
@@lisahinton9682 I didn't . My post seems to have lost half a sentence for some reason. -do this, the dashes at front and end. This is for RUclips. Other sites will be different-
@@lisahinton9682 -I didn't, seems to have lost a sentence- Put a dash - before and after whatever you want to strike through. That's for RUclips, others are different.
Did dr Spilsbury ever meet dr Joseph Bell? When the good dr Spilsbury was 20 the honourable dr Bell was only 60 years old. Imagine what they might have talked about.
@@randallrona9618 Actually I looked it up and it was thought that they wore wigs to cover up hair loss, and to make them look more professional. Also the black robe and white wig made them appear half human, and half divine. It was also thought to protect them by obscuring their appearance from enemies in the courtroom.
Well nowadays it gives them an air of anonymity as if you meet one in a street you are unlikely (not impossible) to recognise them. I believe its why they continue with it. I know that many will disagree with me, but I think its valid.
Fun fact: after filming the shower scene in the movie "Psycho", Janet Leigh never again took a shower, only baths. I love showers, so that movie is on my "no watch" list.
I''m surprised how someone managed to come up with this method of killing in Victorian times... I watched a forensics drama show featuring this method of murder two years ago and I remember thinking it was a bit of a reach...
I love love the history of old crimes. Plus the pictures. Im glad there was a camera back then. Can you imagine the older centuries crimes?? Scarry. No dna or any of what detectives have now. So the murderers & the torturers could do whatever they wanted even more so.
"Fun" Fact! In Australia, R v Smith (1915) 1 Cr App R 229, or the "Brides in the Bath" case, is still used as precedent in determining the applicability of the "coincidence rule" in legal cases today. In effect, our Uniform Evidence Act states that "[e]vidence that 2 or more events occurred is not admissible to prove that a person did a particular act..." however, this assumption can be challenged where it is so improbable that the events are accidental or unconnected that, in the circumstances of the case, they indicate a pattern or more than "mere coincidence." In this case, it was improbable that three different women would have accidentally drowned in the bath, given that their deaths occurred not long after entering marriage and financial arrangements were in place, under which the accused would stand to benefit if they died. This principle can be applied out to anything, from murder to theft. So, yeah, certain jurisdictions around the world still use cases that are over a century old, because as long as the principle still rings true and is applicable to the case at hand, there's no need to throw it out.
Aliens = immigrants The Aliens Act 1905 was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. The Act introduced immigration controls and registration for the first time, and gave the Home Secretary overall responsibility for matters concerning immigration and nationality.. While the Act was ostensibly designed to prevent paupers or criminals from entering the country
The defense attorney forgot that if she leaned forward to rinse her hair under the tap and fainted. The wife would have fallen forward unconscious, and hit her head on the metal tap, or metal tub. Leaving a mark or bruising on her forehead. There was none. And all women were also found with their feet under the tap, not face 1st under the tap laying on their stomachs.🛀🏻
Actually, it's the direct opposite. Generally, we have reflexes that will wake you up, if you start drowning. It's more likely that these women were drugged heavily in some way, first.
Should have activated the moat and pulled up the drawbridge back then. The country would never have had the problems that have built up to today's horrors. May the creator God keep us all safe. ❤ May we all look after each other in unison with love and understanding. ❤
Can we take a moment to acknowledge the actors that make up these crime shows? Especially this one. Really added to the engaging nature of this show
Indeed, what a brilliant cast! ❤️
They are so amazing and really look the parts they play!
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I hear ya, but I cannot stand re-enactments. Always felt it was creepy. But research takes a lot more time and money than fourth rate reenactment ‘actors’.
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Very interesting and a family connection. Inspector Arthur Neil was my great uncle.
My heart breaks for his victims. These women were victims twice over....first by society, second of this monster.
A 25 year old was not a victim of society! 😂
@@chicagogyrl4846 In that era, by 25 she was expected to have fulfilled her family's and society's expectations.
I just love watching these old cases. They are so interesting.
Check out ‘A Crime to Remember’ on Hulu. It’s all classic crime stories. You’ll love it! 😉
It is sad that at 33 she only wanted to start a family but never got a chance.
I love watching old cases and the techniques used to solve them. Forensic sciences has definitely come a long way.
Thank You for sharing such documentary. We really enjoyed it; And very good actors🇧🇻🐺
How do they always pick the perfect narrators for these types of shows? "And the next day, she was drowned in the Both". No other voice could have made that so calm and spooky like that.
Nicholas Day is an English actor who has done various things, including lots of narrations.
British Old/Middle Aged distinguished men are always a wonderful pick
I remember being fascinated by this case when I was a boy. Forensic science owes a lot to Bernard Spilsbury. A great man. Some crimes are more sophisticated and so does forensics become just that.
Indeed, exciting times when Forensic science starts to enter the modern age.
It’s been 6 hours and I have been glued and held captive by this narrator, the stories, the production and the drawings.
This is the most amazing and engaging series I have ever watched
This was one of my favourite cases of Sir Bernard. Just imagine the pure theatre of the trial and how he demonstrated how the murders took place with a bath in the courtroom.
Perry mason type dramatic event
@@uthpalachandrarathna4408 It certainly would have been dramatic.
Dang, imagine being the police woman used as the demonstration, geez.
She was not a police woman, don't think they even had them back then, she was a female diver.
Hats off and salute to to Bernard Spillsbury. Never giving up and not allowing that sick dude claim his innocence and just roam free. 🇬🇧👏 That is justice!
The presenter is wonderful.
Nicholas day i fricken love your narration. You are from an outer world. A world of exhiliration
Love, love your channel. I am ALWAYS happy to hear from Donald Rumbelow! Thank you!!!
This was riveting to watch . so sad that silsbury committed suicide and he lost his two boys .for a man who did so much it saddens me//thankyou i wish there were more off these to watch x
It’s the equivalent of a junkie finding a stash and getting toasted!
When I find episodes like this uploaded.
Pity they didn't mention Edith Peglar, one of Smith's wives with the difference that he was returning to her and she is probably the only woman whom he didn't rob/murdered.
Yes no mention of her, in a book it is mentioned that she was a plain working class woman whom he cared about , his grudge and disdain was for the so called ladies of the prevlidged class..
Interesting. Many serial killers have second lives which appear quite normal and often involve a wife/children.
@@maria-yr4jq He did not have a grudge against, or distain the women, he 'married' and either deserted them, or killed them, for their money. Edith Peglar, one of his bigamous wives, was lucky as she had no money worth killing for, and was probably aware of what he was doing.
Ok 1st time watching this channel. Subscribed. Perfecttttt narrator and soundtrack too....A-1 content imo
Me n u both
Thank for your positive feedback.
I love this series. Love your channel. Thank you👏🏼.
I have heard n watched other reconstruction of this cae..however, this the best version..the narrator is soooooo good….
Watch the film version with Martin Kemp in it.Very good.
@@scratchy1704 Martin Kemp…watched him in THE KRAY BROTHERS…love him…just looks sooooo cool n sexy in a dangerous way…lol
@@rasempress9724 I know lol ❤
@@scratchy1704 watching the movie u suggested…found it here on utube..thanks….so suave evn as he is sinister
@@rasempress9724 Yes definitely. He's a great actor.
Played brilliantly by the actor Martin Kemp in a film about Smith.
LOVE IT !!! Thank you for your time and effort. Philadelphia USA
petition to bring back flogging politicians with dogwhips
Only for MPs when caught lying.
😂😂
Women today forget about how hard these women had to fight for everything we take for granted now
And some of the things we fought for we didn’t get until the 60’s.
we still have a laundry list of things mrs pankhurst, for all her prowess, didnt managed to solve
Say it louder for the anti-feminists women in the back
The backlash they suffered was brutal. A purple ribbon was like a red rag in a whole world of bulls! I always try to remember to wear purple on Int. Women's Day.
Dearest Jane, WE ARE STILL FIGHTING, GROW UP GIRL.
How things have changed in 100 years. Many women are delighted not to get married today. No more being trapped, used as a human incubator, forced to live on your husband's earnings.
True
😮
Except in Texas now
Fuck the patriarchy
thank fuck, still a long way to go tho, oppression takes centuries to recover from, ask black ppl
This narrator is awesome!!!!!
Some of the smartest people to ever live u could say. The break throughs they had bck then shaped the world of medicine and treatment.
not true
It's so sad that Dr. Spillsbury died by suicide in 1947 at age 70. 😔
Eh 70 is pretty old init?
@@zee7081 You think ? Did you know that Mick Jagger is 78, Keith Richards 77, Paul McCartney 79, Tom Jones 81 etc ......
@@zee7081 Depends on how near to 70 you are
It was indeed a tragic end to his life.
quilt for framing Crippen.
I like the narrator’s Hitchcockian delivery 🧐
I like the word "Hitchcockian"
@@mariel5209 Kind of rolls right off the tongue, huh? 😅
Six- Reminds me of the announcer in Rocky Horror!
I love it. Philadelphia USA
Okay, ya'll gave this man too much credit. 😂 He wasn't "hypnotizing" in any way. He simply preyed upon older, unmarried women who lived during a time where they were told their youth and marital status determined their value and respectability.
So true about women for women until this day so many young ladies in their 20tys are into fillings, botox, breast augmentation it is sad this is still factor
He was mesmerizing by the ladies own accounts. We really cannot despute but he definitely preyed on lonely older women.
@@spinrash6000 No one is putting a gun to their heads.
@@dougtaylor2803 right agree
@@spinrash6000 Women mainly don’t do those things for men. They do them for themselves, and to feel more confident in their appearance. Whether you want to believe it or not, appearance and how you take care of your body matters in many aspects of society.
I love this series.
Thank you, what a sad end for such a brilliant man. He’d lost his two sons and, as there was no mention of a wife, I guess he’d lost her as well. How truly sad for him 👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
i imagine life with him was toxic
His wife did not die until 1962, aged 83.
Two of his sons but not all
Who else love's how the narrator says "Dark Side."
you stole my comment!! lol
🤣🤣🤣💯
Terrific, I definitely enjoyed it. 👍
5he Brits never disappoint in their re-enactments !.
Thankyou for a first class presentation.
'An older man, certainly, but single, still quite handsome and conveniently rich'
Showing his picture
Me: ewww 😖😖😖😖🤢
stunning upload Real Crime. I killed that thumbs up on your video. Continue to keep up the exceptional work.
those detectives we're really determined and dedicated for sure they had a lot less to work with and were brilliant. big ups to Scotland yard
Thank you for sharing!
...still quite handsome." Cuts to photo of a homily man 👀
Notice how the Brits make docs, socio-historical analysis, compared to US which are usually awfully over-dramatic.
I agree with you today things are ridiculous towards certain degree. But years ago there was a show Called unsolved mystery With Robert Stack he had a wonderful way of speaking and it wasn’t over the top like stuff this today. Maybe you should check that old show up so you know that all American stuff isn’t crap
As a juror, I could not help but be suspicious of a defendant who does speak on his own behalf
Docu is very well made, I’m surprised this hasn’t been on tv!
It was on tv, about 7 or 8 years ago.
The tv show is called ‘murder maps’
Very nice, thank you for posting.
I saw one of the original baths that he used at Madame Tussauds in London years ago , don't know if its still on display now , doubt it.
Seen and read about this case many times.
He married and then took all his wife's money. Then abandoned her and ran off. No contact details etc..
Then bumps into her 2 --3 years later. Makes up a blatant lie of how he had been searching for her and she is overjoyed at his re- emergence..
@dsd7004 How did you do that strike-through? I've tried to figure that out on my own to no avail.
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I didn't . My post seems to have lost half a sentence for some reason.
-do this, the dashes at front and end. This is for RUclips. Other sites will be different-
@@lisahinton9682
-I didn't, seems to have lost a sentence-
Put a dash - before and after whatever you want to strike through. That's for RUclips, others are different.
An excellent video...ty...
Superb documentaries!
Did dr Spilsbury ever meet dr Joseph Bell?
When the good dr Spilsbury was 20 the honourable dr Bell was only 60 years old.
Imagine what they might have talked about.
Dr Spillsburry. Brilliant.
The Caledonia sank in 1843, not 1841. What he calls inhibition is now called cadaveric spasm.
Danke für das hochladen sehr interessant
Sehr interessant!
Lust, greed, insurance, inheritance = foul play🚩
I've always wondered why British solicitors and judges always wear whose wigs.
Back in 17th Century, they shaved their heads and wears wigs to prevent hair lice.
@@randallrona9618 Actually I looked it up and it was thought that they wore wigs to cover up hair loss, and to make them look more professional. Also the black robe and white wig made them appear half human, and half divine. It was also thought to protect them by obscuring their appearance from enemies in the courtroom.
@@hummingbird2254 I know. I only found that when I was watching Pirates of the Caribbean movies.
Hall's wig in recreation doesn't look very impressive, sadly.
Well nowadays it gives them an air of anonymity as if you meet one in a street you are unlikely (not impossible) to recognise them. I believe its why they continue with it. I know that many will disagree with me, but I think its valid.
Some individuals are just born brutal with no soul. Philadelphia USA
Well a reminder for Marshall Hall: the victims were nowhere near leaning forward and they were healthy.
And this is why I like showers.
Fun fact: after filming the shower scene in the movie "Psycho", Janet Leigh never again took a shower, only baths. I love showers, so that movie is on my "no watch" list.
I''m surprised how someone managed to come up with this method of killing in Victorian times... I watched a forensics drama show featuring this method of murder two years ago and I remember thinking it was a bit of a reach...
I love love the history of old crimes. Plus the pictures. Im glad there was a camera back then. Can you imagine the older centuries crimes?? Scarry. No dna or any of what detectives have now. So the murderers & the torturers could do whatever they wanted even more so.
Agreed! It's chilling to think about back then what crimes could be committed and nothing could be done to solve them!
And an awful lot of innocent people were convicted.
"Fun" Fact! In Australia, R v Smith (1915) 1 Cr App R 229, or the "Brides in the Bath" case, is still used as precedent in determining the applicability of the "coincidence rule" in legal cases today.
In effect, our Uniform Evidence Act states that "[e]vidence that 2 or more events occurred is not admissible to prove that a person did a particular act..." however, this assumption can be challenged where it is so improbable that the events are accidental or unconnected that, in the circumstances of the case, they indicate a pattern or more than "mere coincidence." In this case, it was improbable that three different women would have accidentally drowned in the bath, given that their deaths occurred not long after entering marriage and financial arrangements were in place, under which the accused would stand to benefit if they died.
This principle can be applied out to anything, from murder to theft. So, yeah, certain jurisdictions around the world still use cases that are over a century old, because as long as the principle still rings true and is applicable to the case at hand, there's no need to throw it out.
Thank you!
That is a fun fact! Thanks for sharing 😊
@@SinaAla Thanks! :) I wasn't sure if people would find it interesting/fun - but it's always nice to collect trivia facts, right?
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
London is still the same now lol
Not quite 😂😂🏴
Anyone else notice the actor who played murderer George Chapmen - pub poisoner S1E2 sitting in the jury box?
Not hypnosis. That's narcissistic mirroring and it's highly effective against an empathic or desperate victim.
i'm fascinated by murders at sea, cruise ships seem to crime central
Thank you for another fascinating video
Dr. Spillsbury sounds like a highly irresponsible individual. Glad the policewoman survived.
"Aliens" = criminals ? No way , we have jails full of our own and they don't like competition .
Aliens = immigrants
The Aliens Act 1905 was an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. The Act introduced immigration controls and registration for the first time, and gave the Home Secretary overall responsibility for matters concerning immigration and nationality.. While the Act was ostensibly designed to prevent paupers or criminals from entering the country
The defense attorney forgot that if she leaned forward to rinse her hair under the tap and fainted. The wife would have fallen forward unconscious, and hit her head on the metal tap, or metal tub. Leaving a mark or bruising on her forehead. There was none. And all women were also found with their feet under the tap, not face 1st under the tap laying on their stomachs.🛀🏻
And they were healthy last I looked
That George looks Very Creepy...like a Ripper suspect. 😮😡
36:03 _"he's not gay, he's _*_FLAMBOYANT_*_ Kathleen"_
42:58 What’s with the arrows in the prison uniform? Was that a thing back then ? What would be the purpose?
ohh err I live in maidstone. There's still a prison right in the centre.
Actually, it's the direct opposite. Generally, we have reflexes that will wake you up, if you start drowning. It's more likely that these women were drugged heavily in some way, first.
A bit like London nowadays
Flogging w/a dog whip ...I'm sure the floggers deserved the flogging more than the dogs🥵
They didn’t waste a lot of time between sentencing and execution.
Skydiving, guns, drugs, and nightvision goggles describes my typical weekend.
Lol good one 😂😂😂😂
Yay! New video
Spilsbury got the conviction by any means necessary 35:13 😂😂
😊 this video should be called Edward Marshall Hall's trials hidden tribulations
29.45. a "flash" of inspiration. "splash" of inspiration?
Yesss new vid👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
They could just send him to the front and order him to 'go over the top' on the first day
Britain had an open door policy... Nice to know that nothing has changed then!
That pathologist was handsome he made he’s name
History is repeating. Outsiders have always been seen as scary
I noticed this, too.
How is the killer an " outsider "?
@@dsd7004 doesn’t come from area or is an immigrant
The presenter is fantastic
I thought a bigamist was an Italian fog.
Operation Mincemeat is a book, highly recommended.
Well,I just found the perfect channel here in RUclips,besides Cocomelon of course.
Why did the narrator describe margaret lofty's new marriage, as a "rich older man" ... I just googled the case.. he was 42.. as in 4 years older...
In those days a man’s life expectancy was 45 so at 42 he was an old man.
@@dianawatton7570 and? your point is?
My Point was that he was a mere 4 years older. IE, not 'an older man'
Tip: do not eat your favourite foods while watching these, especially pastries- this will put you off them for good.
Might be a good way to lose weight though. 😁😄
Hey maybe I can implant dislikes for foods I need to not eat....lolol
@@RICDirector Yes! Maybe that'll be an effective way to diet
Should have activated the moat and pulled up the drawbridge back then. The country would never have had the problems that have built up to today's horrors. May the creator God keep us all safe. ❤ May we all look after each other in unison with love and understanding. ❤
Dr Spillsbury would been a great Dr Who !
you insult him (dr who is drivel, non-scientific rubbish)
Doesn't change that he'd be an excellent Doctor, or Holmes....
Terrible how woman were treated back then.
He was also greed, played a part.