Lawyers differ over merits of Johor’s claim to ‘federal partner’ status
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Philip Koh says Johor’s history as an independent state is ‘unique’, but Haniff Khatri Abdulla says its claim has no constitutional validity.
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If the MacMichael Agreement still stands, do you think that the present ruler could afford to buy a Bugatti?
yes ,and can buy more.johore is stupid join malaysia
They are proud to be colonized
RM rdy Under Control & Weaponised… Behave or Else … Your Friendly Neighbour 😊
Seeloknya janganlah buka pekung di dada sendiri, dan janganlah meludah ke langit.
Jangan ingat rakyat tak tahukan sejarah dan apa-apa yang telah berlaku pada Tanah Melayu, khasnya bagi negeri Johor sendiri, di bawah kuasa British dulu.
Sejarah asal-usul Kesultanan negeri-negeri pun rakyat tahu sebenarnya, cuma terpaksa berdiam diri, maklumlah bagaimana kuat pun 'timun' takkan mampu melawan 'durian'.
Betoi sangat bro. Itu pun depa tak sedar2 jugak.
@@johariabas3195 dia ingat org tka tahu dia temengong bengong
Johor was duped by Stamford Raffles into selling Singapore. The pain is still felt today?
Seller’s Remorse 😂? … Must be more Painful considering MY Kicked SG out in 65 😂😂
British East Indian Company?
wow banyak Bugatti boleh bawa masuk Liang Lahat sekali nanti.
🤣🤣🤣
This argument will lead to better lives of johor ppl??NOT!
Tmj want billions to buy bugati or messi
Ni lah dipanggil Cubaan...nafsu masuk ego akan ikut!...lepas tu salahkan orang lain terhadap kesalahan yang telah dibuat, Sedih!....United we stand divided we fall!,...Selamatkan Malaysia kesayangan kita dari nafsu dan ego!!
Mahathir spit here and there and we fight against each other for his nonsense and lie,
why bring Tun M into these matters?
Tun M relinquished his PM chair in 2003?
what is pmx busy doing currently?
can't pmx as the current PM of Malaysia be answerable for everything in Malaysia?
Stupid netizen bring up Mahathir name into comment show that his IQ is like katak bawah tempurung.Baru keluar gua ke?
That PH bot..no need to react..for them anything wrong in this gov are because of Tun..
All previous PM communicate well with Johor, Sabah & Sarawak in matters related to Anglo Johor Treaty 1885 & MA63 for Sabah & Sarawak. Some said that Anglo Johor Treaty 1885 is no longer valid but Tun M failure to dissolve JMF (one of the clause in the treaty) is proof that the treaty is still valid. Anglo Johor Treaty 1885 is official recognition by Queen Victoria/Empire of Great Britain that Johor is a free & sovereign state. MA63 is clearly have a different set of condition, Sabah & Sarawak are partners of Malaya not one of the state in Malaysia. I'm no expert in federal consti but it quite clear that this 3 states are different. While together with other malay state that sought independence by forming federation of malaya 1948, the status of Johor at that time was already free & sovereign.
There's a very significant facts behind. Don't simply diss.
Just sell Johor to Singapore.
Win Win situation to all parties.
no need to sell MAHB to BlackRock
Becareful with this kind of statement
@@mtgam5 if you are too worried, just read.
Buy something You already CONTROL ? 😊
The majority poors wont even ask where black money or rock come from when they receive it.
Just join SG la. SG need land and Johorean wants SGD 😂😂😂
Yes , SG has a Very Effective & Efficient PAP Government to suit all Circumstances . Unbeknownst to many , SG has not only Redefined Race but also Changed DNA of Living Indian to Malay in Run up to the Scandalous 2017 Uncontested Presidential Elections… Moreover SG rdy Controls RM … So SG is a Natural Choice 😊
Yes , SG has a Very Effective & Efficient PAP Government . Very Flexible also to suit all Circumstances . Unbeknownst to many , SG has not only Redefined Race but also Changed DNA of Living Indian to Malay in Run up to the Scandalous 2017 Uncontested Presidential Elections… Moreover SG rdy Controls RM … So SG is a Natural Choice 😊
Then why waste building bridges and causeway links? Might as well land filled and reclaim the whole Tebrau straits. You'll have a bigger land mass. It very near. 1km++ between Woodlands & Pantai Lido. 🤔🤔🤔
Johore needs S'pore's Peter Lee.
@@francisboulangere7628 Siangapore belongs to Malaysia. Its a maaly island belong to Johor Malay Sultanate.
Sell Johor to Singapore for 1 trillion dollars
SG rdy CONTROLS RM , Why insult when Can Cooperate ? 😊
@@Hs5687 who's insulting?
I was merely suggesting for Malaysia to sell Johor to Singapore for 1 trillion dollars.
Bangsa Johor will be happy & Malaysians will have their rightly deserved subsidies.
Everybody will be happy.
U can't sell what u don't own, land & water belong to the states, not just Johor but all states in Malaysia, if u own a house or land look at the land title, it is not issued by Malaysia, TMJ was right Malaysia do not own Johor.
Let Johor leave. See if it can survive without oil money from sabah sarawak & Terengganu.
If not mistaken, Johore do have oil rigs too
@@shalimarsulaiman7557where is it actually?
sorry to say, Johor joins Malaya with scam agreement even John is independent nation in history, unless you dissolve federation of Malaysia first, then sign new agreement or leave for independence
Agree ✅
Sounds like SS
Ni la barua tak belajar sejarah
Johore was persuaded to join Malaya. But it gains a lot as to Selangor. The oil money Malaysia got was pumped into these two states mostly. Now Johore is rich, it started complaining a lot.
So, HK wants Johor as equal partners with the Federal Gov't? Anything else? You wanted to claim Putrajaya then? Johor are now 'kaduk naik junjung'...what else is new from them?
To sign as a party to the document to come together does not reduce the status of the party signing ...as a separate entity signing with the group ..
Is this not the position of Sabah and Sarawak agreeing to be together..each signing as a separate entity but to come together...
So the desire to be together but at the same time to be different is something where all can agree to feel happy and all having the best benefits.
Well..as the raayat becomes more educated and aware they too wants its interest be safeguarded and realised.
Right on ..right on ...let the views of all be explored and be understood
There was are many reason why the europeans revolted against their King and feudalism. Let them eat cake while driving a bugatti is one of them. Britain, French killed their kings while Russia blew them up.
These happens because of misunderstanding between the rulers as well as the political leadership!Consequently an amicable situation should be created to solve airing problems!
As usual SINGAPORE will decide … Johore only needs to sit Pretty 😊
Semuga kita menjadi Khalifah Allah..bukan Khalifah nafsu....
Keluar Malaysia
BALIK INDIA!
THE LATE MR. LEE KUAN YEW, told me, sooner or later JOHOR will one day join Singapore.. He is serious about it.
Even late LKY relatives knows this.
The Late LKY is also known to have many Predatory Bad Habits & Racist Policies. ie. Land Grab, Marginalising & Oppressing SG Muslims , Destroying not only Political Adversaries but also Influential People,Families & sometimes even entire Communities, Looting & Plundering significant Arab Land Holdings etc … LKY’s Bad Habits are PAP’s Policies……😊
Better u call LKY first..he is waiting for ur call.
Owing to abundant oil, he persuaded S&S to form a partnership. Afterward the malaya leaders throw him under the bus and yes, the oil belong to malaya minus singapore.
@@monroedoc6729 , he's waiting for who's call? In Nirvana?
I strongly recommend the history of Malaya and Johor be closely looked at, by those who have not, before falling victim to ignorance concluding HRH Tungku Ismail's statements lack validity.
You may or may not be pleasantly surprised depending on the divide one happens to be on...
Look at the archives in particular.
If the MacMichael Agreement still stands today, do you think that the present ruler could afford to buy a Bugatti?
MacMichael Agreement was signed in 1945 between then Regent of Johor and Harold MacMichael, where the King is only involved in Islam & Adat Istiadat Raja only & Not in any administrative capacity. Is that the the agreement you're talking about?
History can easily be manipulated to Suit..
.. Relevant is RM now under Singapore’s Control… Singapore will Decide..😊
What was the verdict by Prof KKK on this matter?
Johor sultans was inauguate by the British king. If johor were to be given back to what it was, it should return to the British and king Charles should reign over johor not sultan Ibrahim or TMJ.
walaupun kes 1894 (lama) menyatakan Johor adalah state yang unik, tapi Johor telah masuk Perjanjian Federal pada tahun 1948 (baru), Johor sudah jadi samarata dengan negeri lain.
MA63 is valid, Anglo Johor Treaty 1885 also still valid. That how differ this 3 states from the rest.
Nooe The Federal Constitution is supreme. Keluhuran Perlembagaan dan undang2. Musuh mesti ditangkap.
So, any takers to leave Malaysia?
Keluar jela dari malaysia..terpaling istimewa sangat
anjing malas rileks tolong
Ini saya setuju...dah lama isu ni TMJ timbulkan. Naik muak jadinya!!!
Hmmm. Tok too much or rait too much kontrari to the key player then kena masuk lokap. I rizab komen.
What with johor joining singapore😂 that’s like saying sarawak should join indonesia. If both are to leave the federation they absolutely want their own independent sovereign state.
That's dangerous. Exactly what Konfrontasi Maphilindo is all about. Fighting over persuading Sabah Sarawak to choose between joining Federated Malay states (peninsular), Philippines, or Indonesia. Go read history back.
Kalo ada tanah istana di SG, kepunyaan KESULTANAN JOHOR (bukan aset Malaysia , or kerajaan negeri ) bernilai BERBILLION .. x keluar sesen pun.. sebab dah dari zaman TEMASEK dia yg punya.
Kena respect lah...
Btw kerajaan Johor adalah lanjutan kerajaan Melaka . The true GodFather Malay Empire.😂. Bahasa Melayu adalah Lingua Franca ratusan juta org. ketika itu n kini.
Jgn la buat sekupang dua.. kt depa.
Very subjective.
Bukan negara perpaduan, tapi sedang berpecah, hakikat lantik ketua kaki menipu
Mungkin kerajaan Kedah Tua & Kesultanan Pattani boleh dibangunkan semula? 🤔
@@francisboulangere7628 balik sumatera sajalah melayu2 palsu penjajah tanah orang asli
Ketua kaki penipu tu siapa? Bgtau le, rakyat Malaysia nk tau...ada berani?