New holder I agree doesn’t add that much value, but Auto 10 really does for rare rookie cards, because it reduces the pop count down significantly. Around 50 of these Lebrons have PSA 10, but less than 20 also have an Auto 10. So that scarcity does add value. If you look at Tiger Woods 2001 SP Authentic, the 10/10 regularly outsells the 10 by $5-$10k for example.
14:28 is the smoking gun for me. When a PSA 5 is doing 26k I’m not taking even 35-40 for the Beckett 9. And the Bron did 25k two months ago not 2 years ago as with the MJ
I had the exact same trade debate with a childhood buddy of mine back in the 70's. Cards were different and only worth 0.25$ but still the same intensity. Boys will be boys. Love it.
Geoff, I just finished this video. Fantastic deal on the Jordan/James deal. You came in strong on that 1/1 deal at the end. Excellent video. Super fun.
In what world is a PSA grade that much more premium more than Beckett ???I’ve seen thousands of people cross over a Beckett 9 or 9.5 to a PSA 10 but I rarely seen it vice versa. The dude is properly going to cross over the MJ to PSA and make a killing.
Wow. 2 very good negotiators going to head to head. And with respect for each other. That was so fun to watch. Thank you for showing that. Very entertaining. Jess
You made $$ either way on the Jordan but that sticker being a 9 and auto just feels like that could be a 60k+ after the current auctions. Glad you made the deal you wanted and still got one in the PC. That auto redemption was pretty cool, can’t blame him for holding wether he passes it down or shops it around. If he finds the right Lebron collector he will be rollin’ 😊
Srsly wtf am I the only that thought the Jordan was at the lowest 45k and I wouldn't even have moved it at that price. I would have just kept it. If he was willing to work around 50k evaluation maybe we are talking but the Lebron I wouldn't take it in at more than 26k. Sorry but a 10 auto isn't a 7k premium. GTFO
The difference between the Lebron holders shows you that sales is all about talk. The redemption guy undersold his and was actually trying for an amicable trade.
PSA 9 at auction over $65k+ gives the value of your BGS 9 immediate credibility on the $40k value you were asking…that Lebron is not a $35k card just because of the auto grade added. I think you have to take into account a lot of collectors that own a PSA 10 just don’t add that auto grade to and therefore it makes the dual grade seem “rarer”. Imagine all the people who own PSA 10’s just add the auto grade, now what? That Jordan is far more valuable, would’ve been way better off to send it off to auction if you were really wanting to get profit out of it. You could then go buy the Lebron PSA 10 pay to an auto grade and STILL have $10k+ leftover of profit 🤷♂️
Yes but with auction fees and all that and no guarantee for the number really getting there I think he would have been better saying 40k firm but that's me.
@@marcokalion7293 Fees are paid by the buyer, not seller. That’s why there’s a “buyers premium”, that’s the fees the auction house will collect for using their platform.
Awesome episode Geoff.. I had that 2003 SP LeBron RC #’d to 500 only raw never graded, Sold months later to a LeBron fan at my LCS. Personally would never trade away that Jordan signed RC sticker for that LeBron. I also have an ungraded minty MJ RC sticker, I love it too much to ever trade it for anything LeBron. Love the meeting with Jeter as well
lol I would wayyyyyyy rather have that draft picks lebron auto pretty much 1/1 for 15k. Then trade a Jordan that COULD sell for 60k+ for a card you know is not going over 35k for a long time.
So back in 03/04 I was fortunate enough to pull a UD Glass Auto Focus redemption of Jordan. I redeemed it and still have it in a case. Thinking of sending it to PSA for.card and auto grade bit nervous of losing it through the mail. Would love to visit psa booth at a national one day.
I love UD glass I was also lucky enough to pull a MJ jersey auto redemption Monumental Mark /50 I sent mine in to Beckett got 8.5 10 auto. Wish I held on to it, ended up selling my MJ collection including Nike promo PSA 9 Fleer RC with sticker all for $1200 bucks on ebay back in 2005.
MJ sticker at BGs 9 with pwcc E rating means it was a really nice 9 and would cross to a PSA 9....The lebron waa being valued at the highest possible at 36k while the psa 9 jordan comp was already close to 60k. Yes it had a 10 auto but the auto on the bgs copy was very nice as well..could be left with no auto grade or get a psa 9 or 10 for the auto. Either way a huge win for the other guy.
you know how rare a hi graded Jordan sticker is? they're super rare. most are well off-centered. plus it's an auto. Geoff's was a rare card with high grades. I wouldn't accept the trade for lebron/luka kaboom/$4300. dude picked out a luka instead of Geoff looking/picking cards. dude probably got the luka for 1/2 of what it's worth, or for free in a previous trade. Lebron's cards will go down in the next few years because of age(will go up when he's retired though), but the Jordan sticker will go up during that time. bad trade. he came to Geoff, so Geoff should have used that for leverage.
Stop trading/selling pop 1 cards unless they backing up the brinks truck.....people treating Bgs like it is red rocket grading. Tubers and paid actors have hyped psa up too much...its a disease
Saw that Tyson and Paul will appear at FanaticsFest today. Wonder why boxing cards are not more popular. Cool to see Dana there realizing the potential with UFC cards
David obviously wants to send the Jordan to PSA so covert it to a psa 9,9 but I guarantee Geoff already tried that at a show where PSA tells him on the spot.
In what world does a psa 10 auto command 50% more premium of the non graded version?? At best its a 20% bump but even then thats a hard sale. 15% bump is more in line, for that guy to add 12k on a 24k card just cuz the auto is graded is insane
The premium people pay for PSA cards is insane! I don’t know what happened in the hobby in the last 15 years or so, but PSA was always considered far inferior to BGS. I don’t get it.
Market and collectors went in favour of PSA (and its marketing) during the pandemic is what happened. Beckett became a shell of its former self post pandemic. How the mighty fell.
The Jordan auto was worth at least $5k - $6k more than what this deal ended for. The Lebron is a good card to acquire because he’s about to retire. Once he plays with his son and goes into the HOF I think the value of the card will surpass $40k
No way I’d trade a Jordan for a Lebrun but I guess when you have dozens of Jordan autos and prob a duplicate, it just shows how far apart Geoff and average sellers are. It’s like watching two billionaires trading islands but arguing about the number of possible palm trees on the island after a hurricane happens😅😅😅
now a good deal.I would have kept the Jordan. The value of that Lebron is 31k tops. the Jordan Valued at 40k+. 7k and the LUKA. Geoff need to get a bit more firm on this GEMS
Thank you basketballcardparadise for the Lebron deal!
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@brendenconner9686 shadow wolf x7 moonlight 4:40
I’m sorry but an auto 10 grade and a new holder is not worth an additional 12k.
Exactly these people are out of their mind. It’s just flippers selling to other flippers using dumb tactics. The hobby has gone to shit.
New holder I agree doesn’t add that much value, but Auto 10 really does for rare rookie cards, because it reduces the pop count down significantly. Around 50 of these Lebrons have PSA 10, but less than 20 also have an Auto 10. So that scarcity does add value. If you look at Tiger Woods 2001 SP Authentic, the 10/10 regularly outsells the 10 by $5-$10k for example.
It’s the scarcity of it. Not just the fact it’s in a “new holder” as a 10 auto
No one just collects anymore. It's all about the flip. $12k more for that card just for a 10 auto grade is absolutely delusional.
@@freddygiumenta9142💯
From the start this wasn’t a good trade situation. He put a huge premium on his card and then put a huge discount on Geoff’s card. Smh.
Geoff can be very cheap, wow a multimillionare acting cheap like that
I’ve tried to work with this guy before. It’s typical for his style.
@@angievolakakis5014 how was he acting cheap. Just bc someone is rich doesn’t mean they should make bad deals or give money away
@@angievolakakis5014 or are you referring to the Lebron auto. The pop 1 finest redemption card?
I'm not selling the jordan auto, that's PC forever lol
I did have 2… the other will be PC forever!
@SportsCardInvestor why did you give him the better one then?
@@smashergrilla954 i’m pretty sure he has a 10 in the same card and it’s pop 1 so that’s why he gave that one up
LeBron will never, ever, be the goat, period, I wouldn't even think about trading the MJ for any LJ
@@smashergrilla954because it’s his card? He can do he wants
This trade blows my mind. Lol the Jordan just seems lightyears better
Jordan sticker much better, it's not 4-7k above. 10-15k min
That first guy was trying to take you for an absolute ride, talk about greedy
100% ..can tell right from rip dude is an absolute slime ball that probably got wealthy from crypto and been in the card space for a yr or 2.
No he’s a good dealer, he’s fair - but as with all dealers, he’s looking to make a profit!
@SportsCardInvestor there's making a profit, and then there's that
I did not see him as slimy. Just a very good negotiator.
David is a good dude.
I love watching these video keep em coming
Awesome look at the Fanatics Expo! 🥳🎉 Thank you for sharing the experience with us! 🙌👏🤩
The PSA Mint 9 Auto 10 in Heritage just sold for $204,000 with the bp
Really fun video!
Fanatics Fest looks really well put together.
Geoff has the best videos in the hobby without a doubt. LOVE the big trade deals and love how he explains his thought process on them
He won't let you suck it buddy
Wow Geoff I don’t know man. That Jordan card is one to just put away for a few years.
That card will be mantle/babe Ruth level soon
Good thing he has another one
@@jprizzle2604 Yeah, he would never do this if he didn't have another one.
I continue to be amazed by your production value and your team Geoff 👏
14:28 is the smoking gun for me. When a PSA 5 is doing 26k I’m not taking even 35-40 for the Beckett 9. And the Bron did 25k two months ago not 2 years ago as with the MJ
That's only for this Lebron James card? Or for any?
The lebron jordan trader is someone to never make deals with. Too sly, slippery with his numbers
I would definitely keep the Jordan. Lebron's cards aren't at that level yet.
I had the exact same trade debate with a childhood buddy of mine back in the 70's. Cards were different and only worth 0.25$ but still the same intensity. Boys will be boys. Love it.
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Geoff, I just finished this video. Fantastic deal on the Jordan/James deal. You came in strong on that 1/1 deal at the end. Excellent video. Super fun.
Looks like a great event! Thank you for sharing
First guy is the Typical I want my card valued at the absolute highest comp and yours at the absolute lowest
Trading jordan for lebron, that’s going backwards.
"GOAT" for "GOAT" is an oxymoron
@@KK-pm7ud lol exactly geoff doesn’t know what goat means.
Got taken to the shed on that one… your Jordan in a PSA 5 does the same as what he paid for the LeBron before reholdering it.
In what world is a PSA grade that much more premium more than Beckett ???I’ve seen thousands of people cross over a Beckett 9 or 9.5 to a PSA 10 but I rarely seen it vice versa. The dude is properly going to cross over the MJ to PSA and make a killing.
APPLAUSE,APPLAUSE 👏🏻I LOVE THIS EPISODE GEOFF,NEW YORK!SHOUT OUT TO BROOKLYN! KEEP ON WITH THIS BEAUTIFUL , HOBBY & INVESTMENT ALIVE!
Ouch, seeing him trade that Jordan for that Lebron hurt. Terrible deal.
I would of went fot that XRC card versus the LeBron 10/10. That redemption is super rare versus that lebron /500.
Wow. 2 very good negotiators going to head to head. And with respect for each other. That was so fun to watch. Thank you for showing that. Very entertaining. Jess
You made $$ either way on the Jordan but that sticker being a 9 and auto just feels like that could be a 60k+ after the current auctions. Glad you made the deal you wanted and still got one in the PC. That auto redemption was pretty cool, can’t blame him for holding wether he passes it down or shops it around. If he finds the right Lebron collector he will be rollin’ 😊
Srsly wtf am I the only that thought the Jordan was at the lowest 45k and I wouldn't even have moved it at that price. I would have just kept it. If he was willing to work around 50k evaluation maybe we are talking but the Lebron I wouldn't take it in at more than 26k. Sorry but a 10 auto isn't a 7k premium. GTFO
@@GSG9Kazmir I’m 1000% agreeing with you
The difference between the Lebron holders shows you that sales is all about talk. The redemption guy undersold his and was actually trying for an amicable trade.
Great video with amazing pickups. Mojo is an animal.
Dang, PSA premium is crazy. I prefer PSA as well, but not $17,000 over a becket. Great video!
Yea I was on PSAs website. It's a little pricey to grade cards. I noticed Beckett and SGC is cheaper. I think it's better buying them already graded.
Stick with Beckett! Most sharpest labels in the biz.
He tried by waving 7k cash around. Glad the seller held his ground.
Keep The MJ all the Way--
Bad deal on that Jordan Bron trade. Basically sold the Jordan low for the Lebron high
When it comes to CT Scanners... I'M BUYING.
😂😂😂❤
Fanatics was awesome! Bummed I didn’t get to get meet you though
Next show we’ll have to do a pack battle!
That Jordan is unique man. The auto is one of the best I’ve seen of Jordan on a card. Amazing deal for the buyer. Lebron you will find many
Have to be firm on jordan auto at 45k!
This was a bad trade Geoff you're looking at a rare Jordan auto compared to a LeBron auto card that was made /500 😬
Geoff should have used this as leverage^^^
Geoff you have got to have Reaves negotiate for you from now on.
First guy is definitely cracking the Beckett case too
PSA 9 at auction over $65k+ gives the value of your BGS 9 immediate credibility on the $40k value you were asking…that Lebron is not a $35k card just because of the auto grade added. I think you have to take into account a lot of collectors that own a PSA 10 just don’t add that auto grade to and therefore it makes the dual grade seem “rarer”. Imagine all the people who own PSA 10’s just add the auto grade, now what? That Jordan is far more valuable, would’ve been way better off to send it off to auction if you were really wanting to get profit out of it. You could then go buy the Lebron PSA 10 pay to an auto grade and STILL have $10k+ leftover of profit 🤷♂️
Yes but with auction fees and all that and no guarantee for the number really getting there I think he would have been better saying 40k firm but that's me.
@@marcokalion7293 Fees are paid by the buyer, not seller. That’s why there’s a “buyers premium”, that’s the fees the auction house will collect for using their platform.
I do not know anything about sports but something is telling me the other guy definitely won by a milestone
I would not have been anywhere close on the Jordan-Lebron trade. Jordan auto is in another zip code imo
"LT got me" - Joe Theismann, well played sir haha
I can feel he's gonna cross that Jordan to PSA.
I don't think so. Geoff would have tried that before and PSA passed on that. No way he did not try that before.
Jeter is a class act….such a legend!
Guy with the Lebron card was Ace Gershfield - OG king of Boston nightlife
Awesome episode Geoff.. I had that 2003 SP LeBron RC #’d to 500 only raw never graded, Sold months later to a LeBron fan at my LCS. Personally would never trade away that Jordan signed RC sticker for that LeBron. I also have an ungraded minty MJ RC sticker, I love it too much to ever trade it for anything LeBron.
Love the meeting with Jeter as well
I’m glad that guy held the card at the end. Didn’t feel right. 👌 Great video again.
James over Jordan auto.. why 😮
Jordans auto looks alot better then James' auto
Could anyone see Derek Jeter and Tom Brady or only certain people?
This is amazing
Good trade for the LeBron auto, you have enough Jordan autos 😂
lol I would wayyyyyyy rather have that draft picks lebron auto pretty much 1/1 for 15k. Then trade a Jordan that COULD sell for 60k+ for a card you know is not going over 35k for a long time.
So back in 03/04 I was fortunate enough to pull a UD Glass Auto Focus redemption of Jordan. I redeemed it and still have it in a case. Thinking of sending it to PSA for.card and auto grade bit nervous of losing it through the mail. Would love to visit psa booth at a national one day.
I love UD glass I was also lucky enough to pull a MJ jersey auto redemption Monumental Mark /50 I sent mine in to Beckett got 8.5 10 auto. Wish I held on to it, ended up selling my MJ collection including Nike promo PSA 9 Fleer RC with sticker all for $1200 bucks on ebay back in 2005.
MJ sticker at BGs 9 with pwcc E rating means it was a really nice 9 and would cross to a PSA 9....The lebron waa being valued at the highest possible at 36k while the psa 9 jordan comp was already close to 60k. Yes it had a 10 auto but the auto on the bgs copy was very nice as well..could be left with no auto grade or get a psa 9 or 10 for the auto. Either way a huge win for the other guy.
Those BGS 9.5 slabs look so nicer and should be worth more
You should have held on to the Jordan
you know how rare a hi graded Jordan sticker is? they're super rare. most are well off-centered. plus it's an auto. Geoff's was a rare card with high grades. I wouldn't accept the trade for lebron/luka kaboom/$4300. dude picked out a luka instead of Geoff looking/picking cards. dude probably got the luka for 1/2 of what it's worth, or for free in a previous trade. Lebron's cards will go down in the next few years because of age(will go up when he's retired though), but the Jordan sticker will go up during that time. bad trade. he came to Geoff, so Geoff should have used that for leverage.
Stop trading/selling pop 1 cards unless they backing up the brinks truck.....people treating Bgs like it is red rocket grading. Tubers and paid actors have hyped psa up too much...its a disease
LMFAO Red rocket
I think it’s fair to say that at this point, Geoff Wilson is the face of sports cards collecting.
Never mind the players per se. Considering age, rarity, and the sig of the cards alone, you'd get way more for the Jordan outside that deal.
Saw that Tyson and Paul will appear at FanaticsFest today. Wonder why boxing cards are not more popular. Cool to see Dana there realizing the potential with UFC cards
David obviously wants to send the Jordan to PSA so covert it to a psa 9,9 but I guarantee Geoff already tried that at a show where PSA tells him on the spot.
Robert DeNiro at 17:45
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lol I see it, the famous smile and frown at the same time
Lebron plus $12K cash would be my counteroffer
That Jordan card will forever be worth more then the Lebalco card!!
This is Brutal, two guys up $15k on one card each, can’t agree over $500.
Enjoyed this style video even though you shoulda kept the goat lol.
Michael Jordan signed about 50 of those cards at Carolina basketball camp yrs ago!!!I still have mine too...
Demand for Jordan is many times more than Lebron.
In what world does a psa 10 auto command 50% more premium of the non graded version??
At best its a 20% bump but even then thats a hard sale. 15% bump is more in line, for that guy to add 12k on a 24k card just cuz the auto is graded is insane
Thats wild, no way the Jordan at 14:27 was a real auto, unless it was veryyy early days.
I would’ve regraded the Jordan PSA he gave you the game and you could’ve taken a large profit
Awesome 👍
The 1s on Jordan feet 🏀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The premium people pay for PSA cards is insane! I don’t know what happened in the hobby in the last 15 years or so, but PSA was always considered far inferior to BGS. I don’t get it.
Market and collectors went in favour of PSA (and its marketing) during the pandemic is what happened. Beckett became a shell of its former self post pandemic. How the mighty fell.
I wouldn’t pay 5 bucks for a lebron.
Damn liberal he is
Yeah you would.
Nothing like turning 30kish into a 45 thousand dollar card
The Jordan auto was worth at least $5k - $6k more than what this deal ended for. The Lebron is a good card to acquire because he’s about to retire. Once he plays with his son and goes into the HOF I think the value of the card will surpass $40k
did you tried to cross the jordan sticker?
Keep Jordan
I’d pay 10k for the XRC auto without question. I’m a buyer.
No way I’d trade a Jordan for a Lebrun but I guess when you have dozens of Jordan autos and prob a duplicate, it just shows how far apart Geoff and average sellers are. It’s like watching two billionaires trading islands but arguing about the number of possible palm trees on the island after a hurricane happens😅😅😅
They're both coco-nuts
What’s arena club? On the background when he met Derek.
It’s like trading a BMW for a KIA. Jordan is GOAT.
That Jordan sticker has fewer than 100 autos. You traded for a LeBron /500. And there are well over 1,000 LeBron auto rookies. I don’t see it.
No one does besides him
He has 2. Point
Im trying to get market movers but I hate how you have to pay
Hello, can someone tell me what kind of trolley this is?
Perhaps a card show while not officially being advertised as one.
There can only be one GOAT and LeBron James doesn't even come close.
Sorry I love Lebron but I would keep Jordan. That will only keep going up
Couldn’t agree more…I love LeBron too…but definitely keeping the Jordan.
Take the $7 K and head on over to Aqueduct.
I am not at then yet but clearly the jordan has more value!
Jeter seemed chill
Never get a James over a Jordan. Never.
JEFFFFF
now a good deal.I would have kept the Jordan. The value of that Lebron is 31k tops. the Jordan Valued at 40k+. 7k and the LUKA. Geoff need to get a bit more firm on this GEMS
Jordan auto will always be worth more
Gotta hand it to this guy. He knows who to go to Geoff to fast talk him into a bad deal