Another great video man. I've been a fan of AA for some years now and use their products for around 80% of my mixing and mastering work, so was proper amped when they brought out the TH suite (Thing doesn't really get my juices going as a name for a synth ...) but I acknowledge that my standpoint is already biased, so really great to witness your deep dive on it. I should say at first that Giancarlo made it clear from very early on that he was not looking to make a straight-ahead clone of a Jup ... of a famous Japanese synth from 1981, he wanted to take its essence but expand and shift it a little. In that regard I think the AA team have done an excellent job. The raw oscillator sound is very upfront and lively, if a tad bright, the modulation options are somewhat limited (similar to the hardware it seems) which is all good, but that LP filter with the 4 modes and extra reson control really is the star of the show for me. A close second is the chorus module, wow. There are a few GUI issues, and it does guzzle CPU (though I am working with an old i7 6700). I totally agree with you that the sound is more modern than vintage, it will be what I reach for when looking for hi def flavour. For me personally, I think that the price is justified as it is a premium product with effects taken from the AA premium mixing lines, but I do once again acknowledge my bias. Nicely done, scum lurve.
Great comment! I think part of what you're witnessing live is that before the stream I asked them what sets their product apart from other products (I ask this of anyone who sends me something.) They said "It is a faithful replica." As the one thing that sets it apart from the rest of the competition, so I was surprised by how modern it sounds. That's the good / bad of doing this live. My reactions are more direct and honest in a way because if I was editing this video I would have focused more on the fidelity of the sound quality and usability for modern music instead of thinking of it as a clone.
Great video presentation and awesome plugin!! I've owned Roland analog synths (never the Jupiter 8), only a couple of Junos. This thing definitely sounds like a Roland+ (and yes it is 'bright')... but with some reasonable editing (or EQ), not a problem. It has a life and fatness all its own (musical). I can't wait for Acustica to release their next synth!! This is their first synth, but it's darned good. Peace and Happy Holidays to You/Yours!! 🙂🧡
I have an issue with Acustica stuff and I'd be keen to hear if it's common - on my not so new but not exactly feeble Win11 i7-7700, 32GB RAM, SSD setup, their plugins run hot as hell with the CPU and frequently crash my DAW (Cubase 14 Pro). Even the TH2 freebie they released at Christmas is problematic and crashed Cubase without even launching. The plugins look and sound awesome in the various demos I've seen, such as this one. But I can't offer a personal take as the build quality / compatibility in my experience is simply dreadful.
I didn’t mean to be anti Vst ( huge Spectrosonics Fan Boy !) in my comment , so buy what ever you can afford . My point is your better off saving up and buy something super nice and it and it will fell more like a hardware synth
Have you ever heard a Jupiter 8? ruclips.net/video/HNVqmOaz5iQ/видео.html The Roland synths were probably the coldest and cleanest analog synths out there in the 80's. I had a Jupiter 6 and it was ... clinical. I loved it! I was disappointed in this video because 1. You didn't seem to know your way around the synth, despite saying you'd read the manual (which I admit is pretty atrocious!), but also you got stuck on bemoaning the button end of the reverb! Use an external one! It's the sound of the synth we need your opinion on, lol. Your tag says it's a game-changer but then you say it's ... so-so. The video description is also ... ah, I see you've updated it from 'clickbait'. Anyway, ... not your best video imho.
Hey, thank you for this comment. Thoughtful, constructive criticism is always appreciated 🙏 I checked out the video. I think Thing is pushing more 10+ khz than any sound in there. The Jupiter 6 was known, and somewhat despised in its time for being so cold. But I love the sound of the Jupiter 6! As Alex Ball called it apocalyptic. But certainly colder than the 8, and the 4 which I had in the studio. I did read the manual, but getting stuck really just comes down to me getting lost live in the moment. The type of thing you'd edit out of a pre-recorded video. That's the downside of doing the live video reviews. Sorry about getting fixated on the reverb tails. I think I was surprised by the sound and when comparing this synth to the rest of the market you want to try to focus on distinguishing characteristics. When it comes to thumbnail / title etc I have to make all of that before the stream, and hopefully I like the product enough that it lives up to the hype. I changed some of how I worded things and the title after the stream to reflect my updated view on Thing. It's not getting a recommendation from me especially at its price point compared to other products from GForce and Cherry Audio, but that doesn't mean it's not the perfect synth for someone out there. I'm not a fan of synths with a vintage synth GUI that don't sound particularly vintage to my ears. But I understand why companies do that to sell units. Again, just wanted to thank you for your thoughtful comment 🙏
@@VultureCulture Thanks for your response. I always enjoy your videos but found this one frustrating, lol. I wanted to shout 'the Global FX button is right next to the FX', haha! Anyway, I couldn't do what you do, so good on you! All the best! Happy New 2025! :)
It's not a problem to be critical, but it's a problem for me if your judgements come over here as somewhat self-contradicting, half-baked and arbitrary. Nobody can say with confidence what is the most analog sounding plugin out there generally, but to me Thing8 certainly seems to be the most authentic sounding Jupiter 8 we have so far. The original J8 itself is far from being remotely as warm sounding as a Juno 6 or 60 (and the Jupiter 6 can even sound outright harsh and ice cold), which many people seem to be confused about in their "warm Roland sound" expectations. After comparing Thing8 with both the TAL version and the Roland cloud version on my system, Thing8 simply seems to be the most convincing version to me. I also can't follow some of your generalising remarks, like on Cherry Audio (who offer a lot of very useable synth sound for little money, but who's only convincing sounding VA so far is their Atomica IMO), while GForce lately generally nails analog charactere very well, just like Softube does with most of their VAs, and UAD does for their Minimoog version. From my view the closest Prophet 5 VAs come from Softube and U-He, the best Junos (6/60/106) from Softube and Tal (in that order), the best Oberheims from GForce and Sonic Projects, and the best Minis from Softube and UAD, just to name some of the most famous. This is the first class VA level Acustica Audio has joined with their J8 version IMO, while you trash talk it in a to me somewhat weird and not convincing way.
I'm not trying to trash talk Acustica Audio, but I think it's important that I am 100% honest with my audience. If it comes across half-baked that's because it's happening live. You can watch in real-time my opinion changing. I believe Thing-8 is absolutely perfect for a certain target market, I just fall outside that target market, and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@VultureCulture No, of course there's nothing wrong with anyone feeling no affinity to any plugin. I just can't follow your reasoning in accessing and judging it. And while I understand some back and forth in a live stream situation, in this video I never get the impression of you really trying to explore the plugin in a constructive way, including proper criticism. Instead you jump all over the place with fast judgements, hesitantly conceding some pros, while readily picking up whatever could be marked as flawed from your view. It was a missed opportunity for an informative and helpful review IMO, no matter if you were in the market for the plugin or not. I've seen better reviews from you, and wish you all the best.
Your not going to get a good software synth experience on a 400$ laptop or dell computer You need to get a1500-2000 $ computer 500-1100 $ sound card and 600-1300 midi controller. Software companies need to tell you this . Most software synths let you try out there demo which is a big plus. If you really like the Roland sound get the real thing on there cloud service or buy a Fantom Ex.
600$ mac mini can run any vst on the market with stellar performance and minimal latency. A quality 2 channel usb interface and a mediocre controller are not expensive either
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Another great video man. I've been a fan of AA for some years now and use their products for around 80% of my mixing and mastering work, so was proper amped when they brought out the TH suite (Thing doesn't really get my juices going as a name for a synth ...) but I acknowledge that my standpoint is already biased, so really great to witness your deep dive on it.
I should say at first that Giancarlo made it clear from very early on that he was not looking to make a straight-ahead clone of a Jup ... of a famous Japanese synth from 1981, he wanted to take its essence but expand and shift it a little. In that regard I think the AA team have done an excellent job. The raw oscillator sound is very upfront and lively, if a tad bright, the modulation options are somewhat limited (similar to the hardware it seems) which is all good, but that LP filter with the 4 modes and extra reson control really is the star of the show for me. A close second is the chorus module, wow. There are a few GUI issues, and it does guzzle CPU (though I am working with an old i7 6700).
I totally agree with you that the sound is more modern than vintage, it will be what I reach for when looking for hi def flavour.
For me personally, I think that the price is justified as it is a premium product with effects taken from the AA premium mixing lines, but I do once again acknowledge my bias.
Nicely done, scum lurve.
Great comment!
I think part of what you're witnessing live is that before the stream I asked them what sets their product apart from other products (I ask this of anyone who sends me something.) They said "It is a faithful replica." As the one thing that sets it apart from the rest of the competition, so I was surprised by how modern it sounds.
That's the good / bad of doing this live. My reactions are more direct and honest in a way because if I was editing this video I would have focused more on the fidelity of the sound quality and usability for modern music instead of thinking of it as a clone.
Ahh, bad on them because a faithful replica it most certainly is not.
Great video presentation and awesome plugin!! I've owned Roland analog synths (never the Jupiter 8), only a couple of Junos. This thing definitely sounds like a Roland+ (and yes it is 'bright')... but with some reasonable editing (or EQ), not a problem. It has a life and fatness all its own (musical). I can't wait for Acustica to release their next synth!! This is their first synth, but it's darned good. Peace and Happy Holidays to You/Yours!! 🙂🧡
Happy holidays to you and yours too! 🖤✨
Great sounding synth...if you can get over all the bugs and glitches. It's been 4 weeks since release and it's still full of bugs.
Nice video! Clicking was what turned me away from this 😛 Now that they've fixed it in their demo I'm ready to test it again.
For Effects press the "Effects On" Button ;)
Luckily the clicking noise has been significantly reduced, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the synth.
To my ears xils-lab makes the most analog sounding synths.
Thing is still a bit too buggy but if they fix that it will be a fantastic sounding synth.
I'll have to check them out!
I have an issue with Acustica stuff and I'd be keen to hear if it's common - on my not so new but not exactly feeble Win11 i7-7700, 32GB RAM, SSD setup, their plugins run hot as hell with the CPU and frequently crash my DAW (Cubase 14 Pro). Even the TH2 freebie they released at Christmas is problematic and crashed Cubase without even launching.
The plugins look and sound awesome in the various demos I've seen, such as this one. But I can't offer a personal take as the build quality / compatibility in my experience is simply dreadful.
Yeah this plugin is resource heavy, taxing my pretty beefy computer
I think it's hype. I like the TAL better.
TAL makes incredible products.
I have both and like Tal's version. But it can't compete with the analog character of Thing-8 from my view.
I didn’t mean to be anti Vst ( huge Spectrosonics Fan Boy !) in my comment , so buy what ever you can afford . My point is your better off saving up and buy something super nice and it and it will fell more like a hardware synth
I agree. I still think Omnisphere is the best $500 I've ever spent.
Have you ever heard a Jupiter 8? ruclips.net/video/HNVqmOaz5iQ/видео.html The Roland synths were probably the coldest and cleanest analog synths out there in the 80's. I had a Jupiter 6 and it was ... clinical. I loved it! I was disappointed in this video because 1. You didn't seem to know your way around the synth, despite saying you'd read the manual (which I admit is pretty atrocious!), but also you got stuck on bemoaning the button end of the reverb! Use an external one! It's the sound of the synth we need your opinion on, lol. Your tag says it's a game-changer but then you say it's ... so-so. The video description is also ... ah, I see you've updated it from 'clickbait'. Anyway, ... not your best video imho.
Hey, thank you for this comment. Thoughtful, constructive criticism is always appreciated 🙏
I checked out the video. I think Thing is pushing more 10+ khz than any sound in there.
The Jupiter 6 was known, and somewhat despised in its time for being so cold. But I love the sound of the Jupiter 6! As Alex Ball called it apocalyptic. But certainly colder than the 8, and the 4 which I had in the studio.
I did read the manual, but getting stuck really just comes down to me getting lost live in the moment. The type of thing you'd edit out of a pre-recorded video. That's the downside of doing the live video reviews.
Sorry about getting fixated on the reverb tails. I think I was surprised by the sound and when comparing this synth to the rest of the market you want to try to focus on distinguishing characteristics.
When it comes to thumbnail / title etc I have to make all of that before the stream, and hopefully I like the product enough that it lives up to the hype. I changed some of how I worded things and the title after the stream to reflect my updated view on Thing. It's not getting a recommendation from me especially at its price point compared to other products from GForce and Cherry Audio, but that doesn't mean it's not the perfect synth for someone out there. I'm not a fan of synths with a vintage synth GUI that don't sound particularly vintage to my ears. But I understand why companies do that to sell units.
Again, just wanted to thank you for your thoughtful comment 🙏
@@VultureCulture Thanks for your response. I always enjoy your videos but found this one frustrating, lol. I wanted to shout 'the Global FX button is right next to the FX', haha! Anyway, I couldn't do what you do, so good on you! All the best! Happy New 2025! :)
@MPHORROCKS Happy Holidays and Happy New Years to you too 🥂
It's not a problem to be critical, but it's a problem for me if your judgements come over here as somewhat self-contradicting, half-baked and arbitrary. Nobody can say with confidence what is the most analog sounding plugin out there generally, but to me Thing8 certainly seems to be the most authentic sounding Jupiter 8 we have so far. The original J8 itself is far from being remotely as warm sounding as a Juno 6 or 60 (and the Jupiter 6 can even sound outright harsh and ice cold), which many people seem to be confused about in their "warm Roland sound" expectations. After comparing Thing8 with both the TAL version and the Roland cloud version on my system, Thing8 simply seems to be the most convincing version to me.
I also can't follow some of your generalising remarks, like on Cherry Audio (who offer a lot of very useable synth sound for little money, but who's only convincing sounding VA so far is their Atomica IMO), while GForce lately generally nails analog charactere very well, just like Softube does with most of their VAs, and UAD does for their Minimoog version. From my view the closest Prophet 5 VAs come from Softube and U-He, the best Junos (6/60/106) from Softube and Tal (in that order), the best Oberheims from GForce and Sonic Projects, and the best Minis from Softube and UAD, just to name some of the most famous. This is the first class VA level Acustica Audio has joined with their J8 version IMO, while you trash talk it in a to me somewhat weird and not convincing way.
I'm not trying to trash talk Acustica Audio, but I think it's important that I am 100% honest with my audience. If it comes across half-baked that's because it's happening live. You can watch in real-time my opinion changing. I believe Thing-8 is absolutely perfect for a certain target market, I just fall outside that target market, and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@VultureCulture No, of course there's nothing wrong with anyone feeling no affinity to any plugin. I just can't follow your reasoning in accessing and judging it. And while I understand some back and forth in a live stream situation, in this video I never get the impression of you really trying to explore the plugin in a constructive way, including proper criticism. Instead you jump all over the place with fast judgements, hesitantly conceding some pros, while readily picking up whatever could be marked as flawed from your view. It was a missed opportunity for an informative and helpful review IMO, no matter if you were in the market for the plugin or not. I've seen better reviews from you, and wish you all the best.
the jupter 8 is over hyped shite
Your not going to get a good software synth experience on a 400$ laptop or dell computer
You need to get a1500-2000 $ computer 500-1100 $ sound card and 600-1300 midi controller. Software companies need to tell you this . Most software synths let you try out there demo which is a big plus. If you really like the Roland sound get the real thing on there cloud service or buy a Fantom Ex.
This one really pushed my expensive customer computer. There are plenty of good VST's that don't do a lot of damage to your CPU
Total bs, you can run this maxed out on a desktop pc for way less.
600$ mac mini can run any vst on the market with stellar performance and minimal latency. A quality 2 channel usb interface and a mediocre controller are not expensive either