I started watching this a while ago. Only just finished watching tonight. Great build. I made the sensitive knurling tool by Hemingway kits. It went over 8 parts so a bit too long really. I am just waiting of the arrival of the lathe steady rest from them & will be doing a in depth video of that. Thanks for showing. Interesting video Andrew.
Great Outcome Andrew. Probably one of the best 35 GBP's you will spend. At least you have used yours, the one I made as an apprentice in 1967 has never been used. WOW that certainly was a Storm and a Half. Stay Safe and Well. Regards from Australia.
Great tool and nice too see it in action! Remember seeing them advertised back in the mid-20th century but never saw one in action until now. You can collapse the end coils by pushing the spring against a red hot piece of steel strapping.
I have a few spring assortments but rarely have the spring I need. I've wound a few on the lathe but this tool makes the job easier and safer, especially with getting the coil spacing right. The spring winder is still being manufactured and is available in the US from Flexbar. When considering shipping from the UK, it might be cheaper for me to buy than make! Workshop Practice #19 "Spring Design & Manufacture" is an in-depth treatise about springs and I have a used copy on the way. Thanks for taking the time to video this build!
Hi Douglas - you are probably correct - shipping between the UK and the US is really silly money. I wasn't aware of the Workshop Practice #19 - I must get one too! All the best. Andrew
Looks anything but safe in my view, especially operating under power. If the wire gets wrapped around your wrist on the way in, consider it gone. Not a fault of the builder obviously, but I think this whole set up should be held in the toolpost and hands kept well away from it. For all the turns required, the thread pitch could be set and the chuck turned by hand.
Hi ! I enjoyed your video. I confess to cheating. My handle is 3D printed, which simplified things enormously, especially for the long hole. It should be more than strong enough. The spindle I made from M8 studding and turned up a collar for it. The acorn nut is commercial and I will do the clamp screw in brass. Thank you.
Very interesting video. You mentioned British Standard Brass thread, that one was new to me. I have Metric plus old imperial, BSW, BSF, BSP, BA etc., but never heard of BSB (other than British Super Bikes!) and I'm in my mid 70's!
Those kits seem expensive at first look ,but the quality of components and kit design make them well worth the money.I have made quite a lot of there tools and found them to be very good to make and use.Thank you for this one.
I had the opportunity to visit "The Hemingway Mother Ship" a nice house in the burbs.... with a very nice gentleman who showed me about. A very enjoyable experience in the Midlands of England. @@learningturningmetal
My domed nut bottomed out before getting tight...is that why I see you using a washer under it? Made all parts to spec and was little surprised when dome nut would not tighten...a sanity check would be helpful.... Thanks and really enjoy your work.
Nice looking tool, I may invest in one for making loco springs for my tank engine project. Tried using the LBSC method of winding springs by hand in the lathe and its a bit inconsistent for me
Really enjoyed that video Andrew. I have never seen one of these tools before and couldnt see how it was going to work until you ran it on the lathe. That first spring looks very profesional. Hey that was quite a thunderstorm. I hope you got everything fixed afterwards.
G’day Andrew. Well done making that tool. I was wondering at first what the tapered disc was for but I gather it is to set the winding spacing. You did a great job. Cheers Peter
Think I'll have to make one of these for myself an excellent tool. Try peck drilling and clearing the threads for a more accurate hole, when the flutes are full of swarf they bind and send the drill off course, the extra friction also allows the cutting edge to rub and dull.
So this week it was Thursday and Friday coffee with Andrew Whale. I have had so much on my plate a full half hour away from the needful got to me. Really neat spring winder, doesn't it make a difference in those pesky valve springs? Blimey he said when the thunder struck, my shop electronic goodies have to go into full unplug mode when a "T" storm hits. I lost a card in my MIG welder just because it was plugged in when the lightning hit a few houses away. So now on to the Hogglet?
Nice build Andrew, and your first spring looks great. Was it easy to keep roughly on centre of the bar i.e. Not wanting to go over or under the mandrel? I guess the tension on the wire stops this happening? Seen something similar in the past and considered making one but then thought I could have a similar tension device in the tool post and use the leadscrew to control the pitch of the spring, going to try this first when I get round to it I think. Cheers, Jon
Hi Jon - I too thought that it might be difficult to use, but it wasn't at all. I would think that your leadscrew method should work well too. All the best. Andrew
that tool is great . looks like even i could make good springs with it . only dose hemingway ship kits to the u.s. ? i looked at the website and it only shows the uk , for pricing anyway . seen a few kits i would love to get . i will email them and find out . great video . i found you kinda by mistake this morning . i am subscribed to the channel now ! keep up the great work !
Thanks for the feedback. Douglas Bollinger commented that this tool is still manufactured in the US by a company called Flexbar. That might be worth exploring. Cheers Andrew
That was definitely a dud drill, you received, it was clear from the outset it wasn't cutting. Very strange. When I made mine the drill supplied was like a knife through butter. Like you, I didn't bother with engraving a scale on the disc...not needed. I also made both "nuts" out of brass, just to make it "look good". A useful tool to have, and will last a lifetime. Your 1st spring was a great success too. You should have touched the end of it on a grinding wheel, to level the ends..... which would have make it look even better. But there I go again....looks. Congratulations on another successful engine being completed.
Hi Andrew. The thunder was a shock but I’ll take your pitter patter of rain on the tin roof over my California hot days hoping there isn’t a wild fire starting close by. So the taper defines the spring pitch? And you turn the wheel to set the pitch distance you want?
I dont understand why you knurled the bar like that, I just run the carage across with the power feed. Saw your hoglet video so I subscribed and following along.
Hi Roy - I tend to use CCGT 060204 ALU inserts for all types of metal - ferrous and non-ferrous. I've bought from various sources (banggood and APT in the UK) and all work well. Cheers Andrew
Hello friend. I hope you will consider me for a response. My I ask where are you located. I'm in the USA, Michigan. The kit looks interesting I don't know how to do this??
@@learningturningmetal Well good day friend. Never been in your country. I've done two things. I have installed machinery and we had equipment shipped to the USA. Taken this as a hobby, will be receiving a new Lathe w/DRO system too. Take care 🙂.
My domed nut bottomed out before getting tight...is that why I see you using a washer under it? Made all parts to spec and was little surprised when dome nut would not tighten...a sanity check would be helpful.... Thanks and really enjoy your work.
Hi Gregg. The drawings and photos show a washer under the nut but no specific reference to it. Not sure if the washer was included, but it's good practice to have one anyway. Happy spring making! Andrew
@@learningturningmetal It did come with washer...I've got it sorted now! I see the adjuster plate takes up the space....just need to make the adjuster plate now. Pretty fun kit to build and your video was very helpful. Should have mine done today!!! Se ya later! 😊
All your vidéos are top quality in any level.✌️
Thanks Jarry. The spring winder is really useful.
Cheers
Andrew
I started watching this a while ago. Only just finished watching tonight. Great build. I made the sensitive knurling tool by Hemingway kits. It went over 8 parts so a bit too long really. I am just waiting of the arrival of the lathe steady rest from them & will be doing a in depth video of that. Thanks for showing. Interesting video Andrew.
👍 I hope the steady rest turns out well.
That looks like a handy tool to have in the tool box. I would have loved to have one of those when I was a kid working in lawn mower carbs.
Very handy tool, and I have an immediate application, so off to Hemingway
Great Outcome Andrew. Probably one of the best 35 GBP's you will spend. At least you have used yours, the one I made as an apprentice in 1967 has never been used. WOW that certainly was a Storm and a Half. Stay Safe and Well. Regards from Australia.
Thanks Dave. I was a bit skeptical at first but it does appear to work very well.
You stay safe too!
All the best.
Andrew
Great tool and nice too see it in action! Remember seeing them advertised back in the mid-20th century but never saw one in action until now. You can collapse the end coils by pushing the spring against a red hot piece of steel strapping.
Thanks for the tip David - I will give that a try.
Cheers
Andrew
A very clever tool. Simple and effective. Thank you as always for sharing your experience. Regards Steve.
Great little gizmo. I wouldn't have believed that would work before I saw this video.
Me too!
Superb tool. Very interesting. BTW, the thunder made me jump too!
Great video and a very useful tool. Thank you for sharing Andrew.
Andrew
It seems to be a nice tool to make springs... tks for the vidéo.
Bfn.
Oh my! That’s just the tool I need to make a spring I desperately need, yet cannot find. Thank you for showing this Hemingway kit. 👏👏👍😀
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I have a few spring assortments but rarely have the spring I need. I've wound a few on the lathe but this tool makes the job easier and safer, especially with getting the coil spacing right. The spring winder is still being manufactured and is available in the US from Flexbar. When considering shipping from the UK, it might be cheaper for me to buy than make! Workshop Practice #19 "Spring Design & Manufacture" is an in-depth treatise about springs and I have a used copy on the way.
Thanks for taking the time to video this build!
Hi Douglas - you are probably correct - shipping between the UK and the US is really silly money. I wasn't aware of the Workshop Practice #19 - I must get one too!
All the best.
Andrew
Looks anything but safe in my view, especially operating under power. If the wire gets wrapped around your wrist on the way in, consider it gone. Not a fault of the builder obviously, but I think this whole set up should be held in the toolpost and hands kept well away from it. For all the turns required, the thread pitch could be set and the chuck turned by hand.
When you show the offset at 24:58 it reminds me of Elmer's wobble plate engine, Ade Swash made a lovely example
I'll be making one of these very soon. Hemingways have lots of interesting kits to go at. The Whittle aero V8 is a very distant desire for me
@@nigesbasementworkshop9541 Great stuff. You can't really go wrong with Hemingways kits.
Cheers
Andrew
Nice piece of kit. Nice how the tapered washer spaces the winding and the plastic washer keeps tension on the wire. Well done.
Strange - but it works!
That is some beautiful work. 😲
Great work,good looking tool, should be very handy for the kind of projects you take on.
Hi ! I enjoyed your video.
I confess to cheating. My handle is 3D printed, which simplified things enormously, especially for the long hole. It should be more than strong enough. The spindle I made from M8 studding and turned up a collar for it. The acorn nut is commercial and I will do the clamp screw in brass.
Thank you.
Hi Peter. Great idea 3D printing the handle. It's a very useful tool to have around.
Cheers
Andrew
Wow, that’s really effective! Another great video Andrew.
Another nice video Andrew. Well done.
Very Cool Tool !
Very interesting video. Thank you.
Hi interesting video, thanks for sharing
Very interesting video. You mentioned British Standard Brass thread, that one was new to me. I have Metric plus old imperial, BSW, BSF, BSP, BA etc., but never heard of BSB (other than British Super Bikes!) and I'm in my mid 70's!
Ha ha. There is always something new to learn in life.
Cheers
Andrew
Well done mate
Thanks Jeremy!
Fascinating, thank you!
Hello Andrew,
Firstly many thanks for making the video... the tool like very good, I may make one myself... Thank you.
Take care.
Paul,,
Cheers Paul - I hope you make one too.
Those kits seem expensive at first look ,but the quality of components and kit design make them well worth the money.I have made quite a lot of there tools and found them to be very good to make and use.Thank you for this one.
Yeah Steve - I've found Hemingway Kits are pretty good too.
Cheers
Andrew
I had the opportunity to visit "The Hemingway Mother Ship" a nice house in the burbs.... with a very nice gentleman who showed me about. A very enjoyable experience in the Midlands of England. @@learningturningmetal
Nice job ! You will use this tool a lot when making engines .
Thanks for sharing!
Smart! I'll have to make one.
I have finally got round to it today!
Gday Andrew, that’s a great tool, I’m sure it will get a lot of use in the future, Cheers
My domed nut bottomed out before getting tight...is that why I see you using a washer under it?
Made all parts to spec and was little surprised when dome nut would not tighten...a sanity check would be helpful....
Thanks and really enjoy your work.
Nice looking tool, I may invest in one for making loco springs for my tank engine project. Tried using the LBSC method of winding springs by hand in the lathe and its a bit inconsistent for me
Really enjoyed that video Andrew. I have never seen one of these tools before and couldnt see how it was going to work until you ran it on the lathe. That first spring looks very profesional. Hey that was quite a thunderstorm. I hope you got everything fixed afterwards.
Thanks Tim. We didn't get a direct hit this time!
Cheers
Andrew
G’day Andrew. Well done making that tool. I was wondering at first what the tapered disc was for but I gather it is to set the winding spacing. You did a great job.
Cheers
Peter
Hi Peter - I should have explained the reason for the tapered disc (excitement took over) - but you sussed it out.
Cheers
Andrew
You sounded very surprised that it worked ,nice job
Hi Brad - I did and I was!
Cheers
Andrew
Excellent work! Seems very functional. Thanks for the look.
Think I'll have to make one of these for myself an excellent tool. Try peck drilling and clearing the threads for a more accurate hole, when the flutes are full of swarf they bind and send the drill off course, the extra friction also allows the cutting edge to rub and dull.
Thanks for the tip Brian 👍
So this week it was Thursday and Friday coffee with Andrew Whale. I have had so much on my plate a full half hour away from the needful got to me. Really neat spring winder, doesn't it make a difference in those pesky valve springs? Blimey he said when the thunder struck, my shop electronic goodies have to go into full unplug mode when a "T" storm hits. I lost a card in my MIG welder just because it was plugged in when the lightning hit a few houses away. So now on to the Hogglet?
Hi Dick - a full on lighting strike can be expensive!
I hope your engine is progressing well.
Hoglet here we come!
All the best.
Andrew
Nice build Andrew, and your first spring looks great. Was it easy to keep roughly on centre of the bar i.e. Not wanting to go over or under the mandrel? I guess the tension on the wire stops this happening? Seen something similar in the past and considered making one but then thought I could have a similar tension device in the tool post and use the leadscrew to control the pitch of the spring, going to try this first when I get round to it I think. Cheers, Jon
Hi Jon - I too thought that it might be difficult to use, but it wasn't at all. I would think that your leadscrew method should work well too.
All the best.
Andrew
that tool is great . looks like even i could make good springs with it . only dose hemingway ship kits to the u.s. ? i looked at the website and it only shows the uk , for pricing anyway . seen a few kits i would love to get . i will email them and find out . great video . i found you kinda by mistake this morning . i am subscribed to the channel now ! keep up the great work !
Thanks for the feedback. Douglas Bollinger commented that this tool is still manufactured in the US by a company called Flexbar. That might be worth exploring.
Cheers
Andrew
@@learningturningmetal thanks for the info . hopefully the have kits . looks like it would be fun to make .
when you reach the end of the spring, is there an easy way to tighten up the coil (ie to put 'ends' on the springs)
Just stop the lathe. Pull the tool back (so no gap defined). Then run the lathe again. Needs a bit of practice.
That was definitely a dud drill, you received, it was clear from the outset it wasn't cutting. Very strange. When I made mine the drill supplied was like a knife through butter. Like you, I didn't bother with engraving a scale on the disc...not needed. I also made both "nuts" out of brass, just to make it "look good". A useful tool to have, and will last a lifetime. Your 1st spring was a great success too. You should have touched the end of it on a grinding wheel, to level the ends..... which would have make it look even better.
But there I go again....looks.
Congratulations on another successful engine being completed.
Hi Raymond. A brass nut would have been a nice touch! Thanks for the grinding tip.
All the best
Andrew
Hi Andrew.
The thunder was a shock but I’ll take your pitter patter of rain on the tin roof over my California hot days hoping there isn’t a wild fire starting close by.
So the taper defines the spring pitch? And you turn the wheel to set the pitch distance you want?
Yeah - I should have explained how it works - but you sussed it out.
Stay safe from those wild fires!
All the best.
Andrew
I dont understand why you knurled the bar like that, I just run the carage across with the power feed. Saw your hoglet video so I subscribed and following along.
Can I get something readymade like this?
Hi
I'm not aware of one.
Cheers
Andrew
Hi Andrew, are you using the Korloy ccgt 060202-AKH01 inserts on your lathe ?. That is a fantastic spring making tool 10/10🌟 Roy
Hi Roy - I tend to use CCGT 060204 ALU inserts for all types of metal - ferrous and non-ferrous. I've bought from various sources (banggood and APT in the UK) and all work well.
Cheers
Andrew
Hello friend. I hope you will consider me for a response. My I ask where are you located. I'm in the USA, Michigan. The kit looks interesting I don't know how to do this??
Hi Keith
I live in North Yorkshire, England.
Cheers
Andrew
@@learningturningmetal Well good day friend. Never been in your country. I've done two things. I have installed machinery and we had equipment shipped to the USA. Taken this as a hobby, will be receiving a new Lathe w/DRO system too. Take care 🙂.
Well done!
My domed nut bottomed out before getting tight...is that why I see you using a washer under it?
Made all parts to spec and was little surprised when dome nut would not tighten...a sanity check would be helpful....
Thanks and really enjoy your work.
Hi Gregg. The drawings and photos show a washer under the nut but no specific reference to it. Not sure if the washer was included, but it's good practice to have one anyway.
Happy spring making!
Andrew
@@learningturningmetal It did come with washer...I've got it sorted now! I see the adjuster plate takes up the space....just need to make the adjuster plate now. Pretty fun kit to build and your video was very helpful. Should have mine done today!!!
Se ya later!
😊