I had HughesNet. They were not happy with me because I would not tell them which service (Starlink) I replaced Hughes with. None of their business. Anyway Starlink has been a game changer for me, also it set itself up in about 5 minutes. (Northern rural Michigan).
Can you share the differences with upload & download speeds of both please? Currently in Lehigh Acres, FL & service here fucking sucks with 6mbps download & 450kbs upload
After waitting not so patiently for 14 MOUNTHS on Saturday I received an email from Starlink saying that I could compleat my order for my system and today I received a FedEx tracking number saying that it will be here on Friday, WAHOO!! For all of you that are still waiting I feel for you just hang in there you will get it.
Starlink has some reserve capacity and allows existing customers to 'move' their service address in to cells that are otherwise closed to new customers, and you can attempt to move your service location immediately after your order goes through, so you can know within a minute if you will be able to have full service or would be limited to having lower quality of service 'roaming' as discussed in the video. If you cannot change your service address to the cell you want and you wouldn't be happy with being in roaming mode at home then just cancel your order and you're out 5 minutes of time and a $700 hold on your debit/credit card for a few days until the charge clears.
As someone who has been waiting since Feb 2021, I have no issue with people using the hack to get their equipment as long as 2 things are true: 1- hardware shipping priority is given to those waiting the longest and have not played the service address game. If there are only 50 dishs available to ship and there are 50 on a waitlist that has just opened up, they get priority over someone who just moved their service level to get a dish shipped so they can roam in their ACTUAL service area. In fact, I wish they would block you from roaming at your original service location just to keep people from doing it. 2- the roamer's presence in a service address not their own should not prevent Starlink from shipping a dish to someone in that same service area who has been waiting if there is available standard (non roaming) capacity. In other words, If a cell has capacity for (I'm just picking a number) 1000 dishs and 50 people in that area cancel their service, those 50 open spots are NOT consumed by roaming dishs. The next 50 waiting people who have that cell as their service address should not be delayed in getting their equipment A few weeks back I attempted to move my service address (again, the same since Feb 2021) to a location that the map said was open. It told me that service would not be expanded to that area until mid-2023. When I started a NEW a account and selected that same open service area it offered me to pay the whole thing ($600+tax) and get my dish right away. Remember- those already on the waitlist before the price hike would only have to pay $550. Funny how it was open for NEW accounts having to pay $600.. I'm glad it is helping many get internet where they couldn't otherwise. but the longer I wait, the more shady crap I see Starlink doing/allowing. 15 months (in a VERY rural area) and still waiting.....
I am southern Ontario in a dark green area. An area I used to live in, 20 min away is light green. Out of curiosity I changed the longitude/latitude of my address to the old one that is light green and confirmed the change. Not sure if I was moving forward or getting bumped off the list! Within 15 min I rec'd an email advising that I had 5 days to check out and pay for the remainder owing on my Starlink account of $700+ or my request would be cancelled and my deposit refunded. I paid the amount requested on my account, and again within 15 min or so I rec'd an email with a link back to Starlink. The webpage advised my order was submitted and it would take approximately 2 weeks to receive the equipment. The area I am in has been on a waiting list for awhile and the light green area is in a really strange location. Maybe it was one of their test locations, not sure, but it worked for me and I will be on "roaming" while using it at my actual address. After it arrives I will try to change my "service address" to my correct location and see if I get full service or have to stay on roaming. Roaming is still likely better than what I am dealing with now so I will be advising Bell I no longer require their services soon!
I really think this practice should be stopped. There are so many of us who really need the service who have been waiting for a long time. Now many are jumping in line ahead of us and delaying, or possibly keeping us from getting Starlink.
I don't think it's that, they have the dishy availably....I ordered mine on Friday and have it running today using a free cell that's near me. My understanding is that the network (satalite or ground stations,not dishy) is the limiting factor, if I had to guess the version 1 satalites have a limited amount of dishy's they can connect to in each cell and if someone sets the service address they are almost guarantee the service but while on roaming SpaceX can temporarily slow down or disable your service while the network is full with the people that have that cell as their service address.
I think it's like everything else Elon is doing.... it's a great idea and should be implemented as fast as humanly possible.... perhaps instead of fucking around with Twitter maybe Elon should focus on the thousands of projects he already has in motion....
I pre-ordered the first day this was announced. Been waiting and waiting... My friend ordered and received his dish in a week. I used his neighbors address and shipped it here. We are 4 miles away from each other... How or why did I not receive mine first when I ordered over a year ago?! Service is roaming and working great. If you pre-ordered, just do this and get your equipment. Once your pre-ordered email comes through switch service addresses. The folks that pre-ordered were to fundraisers for everyone else it seems.
I got my first and only dish this week and was able to set it up and get it going well outside of my service area. I didn't do this trick to get mine earlier, I just happen to need it at a cottage and set it up at home to test it. It took quite a while to get going at first and said that it was at an unexpected location in the debug data. But after a while it changed to roaming instead.
Nice! Thanks for the confirmation that you were able to get it going the first time without needing to be in the home cell. It is pretty amazing tech :) Thanks for watching!
Hi Ryan, has your connection been throttled at your cottage if it is in a "waitlist" zone? I'm just curious how significant the throttling could be. My business could withstand a 50% drop in download and upload speed during high traffic times. Thanks for the info :)
@MikeOnSpace Do you have any information or made any videos on current Starlink capacity and how many launches it might take to start turning dark green hexagons into light green ones? Also, I would be interested to know how these capacities are calculated based on the density of the satellite constellation.
I’m in Florida which is totally underserved compared to other states. Been waiting for almost two years now and all I have received was a price hike notice. Just incase you’re listening, talking softly or trying to sound like a reasonable person doesn’t justify your actions. However I’m sure you do. It also keeps viewers watching and $ flowing.
So, just to throw another wrench in the map.... I live in an area on the map as "wait list." However, the guy who lives literally across the street from me (who clearly also lives in an area in the "wait list" area) was able to get a unit. He wound up giving it to me and it works great all in a "wait list area." I also just ordered a second unit - for my parents, but they will be starting the unit up about 45 miles from the service address, so they will clearly be roaming.. What sorts of speeds are you currently getting in roaming mode?
I've been on the list for over a year and now it's available 5 houses north of me but not at my location. So tempted to try this, but I really do need the reliable service.
I works I just did it. I been waiting for a year. Thanks to the coverage map I placed an order in an address were the cell that has service and I was able to place an order right away. I knew it would work because I had someone let me borrow their dish to test speeds outside a cell that has no service yet. And surprisingly my speeds were faster than theirs
We have Starlink in our area of Northern Nevada USA and I'm still waiting. When I make the change I must be SURE that it's going to work for me for the rest of the time that I live here. I can't take a chance on it not working because of my business which is all run online. So I'll wait a while longer and see how it goes.
Still on the waiting list since February 2021. Central Texas is the service area. I have a friend who placed his deposit nearly two months after I did, and he received his Starlink about a month ago, even though, according to the Starlink "Available / Waitlist" map, he is also in a Waitlist area in Texas. Not sure how he got his before me, and he didn't do anything other than wait.
Yeah, I don't fully understand how they're deciding what cells to activate when. Hopefully this will all be a non-issue soon enough. Good luck getting yours ASAP!
I skipped the wait list but that was in beta and was less than a mile from my current locations. It wasn’t long until I could move to my right location. The way I look at it I was going to buy the equipment either way. If it doesn’t work it will work eventually. Also with that said I had a lot of random outages for a second up to a minute. I just attributed that to not being at the right location.
Yeah, definitely a lot of people doing the same. As you say - you're getting the hardware either way - this just let's to "be ready" for when your home cell has enough capacity. Thanks for watching!
when did this portability/roaming mode get enabled? In mid Febuary I did some testing with my rectangular dish and 30 miles away I got a message (pretty much instantly) that I was too far away from my registered location, move back there and try again. (it does work at the registered location, I was testing how far from there I could move it)
I've been on the list waiting list for 18 months. My "service" currently consists of a Cisco device with a SIM card as that's "the best that can be done for you in your area". I'm waiting until June, then I'm going to employ the hack described herein. I don't care if they throttle me to really slow (I already have that problem), and I'm paying per GB currently... And I really do want to roam quite a bit as well (roaming is also available on my current SIM solution obviously since its essentially a hotspot with a very large antenna)
They are prioritizing new accounts over old ones. Try moving your current ($550) service address to an open area and it will not be available. Start a new account and enter the same open area and they will take your $600 today. New accounts get them $50 more of your $$.
Mike, Thank you for this video. I have been on waiting list for over a year and trying to keep my current AT&T wireless internet router alive. It finally died and AT&T no longer supports the device nor the plan leaving me no options. After watching this video I canceled my Starlink wait list order and ordered under an address 35 miles away that has the service. I am in the Leavenworth Kansas area. The order took, equipment arrived and activated on-site without having to drive to the address entered. Internet is working great, much better than what I had at the same price. Thank you for this timely video!
I have a chance for one that is north of me where a buddy is not getting it since he has excellent cable. I have Been waiting since day one Feb 27 of 2021 (deposit too) only to get pushed back to as late as 2022 ...maybe...?? I have his address but still unsure if I have it in my own area with usable signal. I can meet all of the suggestions you make. ...BUT coverage I am unsure in the area I would "roam" where I live. Any suggestions.? How can i evaluate the signal here where it will roam?
I did this 2 weeks ago without knowing all this. Should of watched your vid sooner. I do have another order at my real address from last year. I was away from my permanent address for a bit. And wanted the dish for a a rental i had to stay at. I guess i should sell it to a person that will needs it and hope they get service.
This isn’t like line cutters at Disney World waiting for a ride that’s always going to be running. This is more like people cutting line at the sandwich shop where there’s only so many sandwiches available for that day, week, month or year. Just because we can’t see you cutting line doesn’t make it right!
The map at least gives some more visibility into their process, but yeah - lots of stories of people STILL waiting for their cell to open up. Thanks for watching!
I checked the Starlink map and my place is in the wait area, but only in a hexagon just north of an active one. So the map is not 100% up to date. I am not sure if I will have service since the equipment is supposed to arrive on Tuesday and I will know then.
got my dish about a month ago in Arizona - after 2 weeks i moved 150 miles - dish setup in 5 minutes and went into Roaming mode in about a day later - speeds seem to be slower 60 to 150mbs - still Plenty Fast enough - uploaded a 636mb file yesterday took 11 minutes - about 56mb per minute - Roaming will open up tons of places for camping location im at has ZERO cell service - not even emergency calls -
we just get the email 3 weeks ago, get it paid and we install the dish 3 days ago. this is Mexican Caribeean, as far i understand Mexico give them the broadcast license with a maximum time to start servicing the country. maybe is why they rush to send dishes...
Interesting.....I just ordered a week ago and dish was delivered today..though I am still waiting for the roof mount and RJ45 dock. Any update on your rectangle teardown?
We did use your suggestions. We found a UPS Store in a Cell 30 miles from us. We set up the account for that service address. We ordered the dish to be sent to our house. We got the dish in 10 days. My husband set it up on a high point at our neighbor's house. He then brought it home and put it on our roof. It linked up right away. We have been using Starlink for five days. It is on roaming. The speeds are slower than reported, but vastly faster than ViaSat and 4G LTE. It's a good thing because my 4G LTE provider lost their unlimited contract. We were sunk. My kid wouldn't be able to get to school, I would have had to drive around the city to get to my remote job. It was perfect timing, and we did it because of this video. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
And that is where the moral dilemma comes in- in doing what you did, are you consuming capacity that is preventing someone waiting longer than you from getting their dish?
@Christineeve That's great! So glad it's working well for you! This sounds like a situation that is a perfect use case for this technique. I'm so excited at the potential Starlink has to get people connected no matter where they choose to live! Thanks for the kind comment and thanks for watching!
Great video Mike, will help some get their equipment faster I think is a good idea. In NS we are completely green, still checking my DeBug data everyday for weeks now waiting to see a true status on Roaming.
Hey Gary! Good to hear from you again. I saw your comment on my other video but I don't think I replied yet: the roaming flag shows when you ARE roaming, not that you CAN. So if you're in your home area it won't say roaming, even if it's available. Your best bet is to try it somewhere else and see if the flag switches then. Let me know if that works. Thanks for watching!
I ordered Feb 8 2021. They said I would get my dish mid to late 2021. Still waiting. Now they have raised the price. Anyone who ordered before the price increase should be grandfathered in at the old price.
Yep. Exactly the same here. BTW- if you move your service address on your existing account (the now $550 one) to an open area (per the starlink map), it will still tell you that service won't be available until Mid-2023 or later. If you start a new account (a $600 one), and choose that same open area, they will ship it to you TODAY. Hmmmmm.
Those Ethernet adapters are in more short supply then even the dishes themselves my theory is people are finding out you can scalp them on eBay and their buying more then one as the website doesn’t seem to have a purchase limit once your able to buy them because as you know you can’t purchase one until you get the email to purchase your dish this is so Frustrating because I just need one and I’ve been waiting 5 weeks now and no update in terms of shipping for the adapter…
Yeah, that's a great point. Same thing with the pole mount adaptors over the last little while. There always seems to be SOMETHING in short supply. Hopefully that's just a temporary situation. I'm working on another video that let's you power the dish from battery and completely remove the Starlink router and plug into your own. Definitely more involved modification, but if you're desperate? Thanks for watching!
@@MikeOnSpace Have you already removed the back shell from your rectangle dishy? I got tired of waiting for Starlink to release their ESIM hardware, and it seems easy enough to use a router table or a fixture mounted heated blade (used for foam cutting) to make a clean separation line, attach a new flat back with exposed contact points and create a completely flat magnetically mountable panel that remains fully water sealed. Then you can just attach a mag cord to lay it on the ground or propped up like a solar panel, or slap it onto a fixed roof car mount, or right back onto the base back shell to utilize the motor alignment when desired.
As a temp solution, just by a WiFi range extender or repeater with an ethernet port in it. It will not be as fast but you will get you wired devices working
Yes, that's the same for everyone, you are only guaranteed to be provided service at your registered service address. If you set up your dish somewhere else you will be given service on a best effort basis only, you may have poor, intermittent, or no service at all, and you're not allowed to complain about it to Starlink is all that message means.
Yeah, I still don't fully understand how they are choosing which cells to activate when, but I do really appreciate them making the map public. At least it adds SOME visibility to the process. Thanks for watching!
Anyone in Louisiana who signed up in Feb 2021 still waiting? I know people who are near me who signed up 6 months after me and they have it now. Don’t know what is going on
In 40 days it will have been a year since the order was placed. Starlink says now mid 2022 after the initial time was mid to late 2022. We shall see. The map shows that we are a wait cell with cells due East of us active and cells NW, W, SW and S of is active. Makes no sense as we are rural and the ones to the other directions either have no residences or one of two to the East is mostly water.
@@LifesLaboratory Well as of a check today. "Starlink expects to expand service in your area in May 2022." That changed from Mid 2022. So it will be about one year from when it was ordered.
I'm sure it WILL be, but every country has their own steps to get regulated before SpaceX can operate. There are definitely still HUGE areas on that map that are dark. Hopefully they'll continue lighting up new areas quickly! Thanks for watching!
There wouldn't be much point in not allowing people to pay for the service if they effectively have no impact on its congestion. I lucked out. I live in BC at 53N latitude, so I'm not sharing with many people. But also, the satellites are at the northernmost part of their arc as they pass overhead. They track ESE to WSW over my house and we generally have four or more in our FOV. I was really worried about obstructions as we have a lot of trees, but it just so happens that the one part of the sky that is clear is the narrow stretch of sky they travel. The eight month wait was well worth it. Our service is consistently more than five times faster than our previous cell-based service. Edit: Also, I've never met anyone in Canada that says "aboot". ;)
@@bob_frazier "Canadians and US citizens are all Americans." No, they are both North Americans and they are both inhabitants of the Americas. In language, the most popular usage of a word becomes the understood meaning of the word. This applies regardless of the etymology of the word. The people of the United States need an adjective to describe their nationality, and they have chosen one. Unless Americans start calling themselves Unitedstatesians, this will not change. As a Canadian, I sure as hell would never refer to myself as an American. Sorry, I see this argument come up quite often and it's become a pet peeve of mine. Cheers.
My kids got this for me and it's still in the box. I don't stream anything and never will, and my internet is garbage but good enough. It's going to make them nuts but I didn't want it so it's staying in the box.
If nothing else you could set it up as a nice coffee table - that'll definitely make them nuts ;) Maybe you could tear yours apart like I'm doing! Thanks for watching!
On a positive note, when you start paying for Starlink, you are supporting their business, which pays for launches, etc. I say order your terminal... and realize that you might have limited bandwidth.
I’m curious, would a starlink purchased in US work in Ireland (assuming correct power adapter?) - seems like Ireland has good coverage and I visit a couple of times a year.
Good question. Marcus over at www.tuckstruck.net/starlink/ been testing with a US Starlink terminal down in Mexico and it's been working well for him. There is a section in the terms of service that says that the customer is responsible for obeying local regulations for usage. This suggests that MAYBE Starlink will let it work in a country, even if they're not actually authorized. I haven't tried it myself, but I'll be doing some testing in other countries over the next few months. I'll let you know how it goes!
Yeah, if you need reliable internet, you have no guarantees outside of your registered service address. SpaceX can slow you down or cut you off if the cell is busy and you're just a visiting "roamer". That said, it still might be better than what you have now, so depends on the situation. Thanks for watching!
$700 to get the dish, $110 / month for service. Why would you want it? Even if you can't get a hard line you can always use hotspot on your phone or get a dedicated cell connection for less money. I don't understand why people would pay this much for internet service.
I dont think you understand how much people pay for Satellite internet through the legacy providers, and I pay $110 a month for 400mbps cable internet. We are talking places that don’t even have cell towers nearby for a hotspot, and the speeds and latency are dogshit compared to Starlink
I pay 130 a month for 24mps down dsl. It's the entire county's option. At 110 a month, it's simply a bargain compared to what millions of people are paying and it provides speeds that don't exist for people outside major service areas.
@@MegamanEXEv2 yeah that blows my mind, I thought everyone had access to cell towers and if you don't get hotspot for free it's usually only a $10 upcharge on your smartphone.
Because most hotspot devices or your phones hotspot feature throttle at a certain usage point like for instance after 50 gigs used you get throttled way down to the point of not being able to watch even a low resolution RUclips video and with Starlink it’s unthrottled atleast right now it’s not I mean maybe there’s unthrottled 4g or 5g lte services out there at a good price I don’t know you’d have to do your research or stay within the data window 20,30,50 etc…
I had HughesNet. They were not happy with me because I would not tell them which service (Starlink) I replaced Hughes with. None of their business. Anyway Starlink has been a game changer for me, also it set itself up in about 5 minutes. (Northern rural Michigan).
Can you share the differences with upload & download speeds of both please? Currently in Lehigh Acres, FL & service here fucking sucks with 6mbps download & 450kbs upload
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After waitting not so patiently for 14 MOUNTHS on Saturday I received an email from Starlink saying that I could compleat my order for my system and today I received a FedEx tracking number saying that it will be here on Friday, WAHOO!! For all of you that are still waiting I feel for you just hang in there you will get it.
Starlink has some reserve capacity and allows existing customers to 'move' their service address in to cells that are otherwise closed to new customers, and you can attempt to move your service location immediately after your order goes through, so you can know within a minute if you will be able to have full service or would be limited to having lower quality of service 'roaming' as discussed in the video. If you cannot change your service address to the cell you want and you wouldn't be happy with being in roaming mode at home then just cancel your order and you're out 5 minutes of time and a $700 hold on your debit/credit card for a few days until the charge clears.
So are you saying after I place the order if I go back in and change the address to my real address with dark green cells, if it lets me, I’m good??
@@kerryjohnson7364 Correct.
As someone who has been waiting since Feb 2021, I have no issue with people using the hack to get their equipment as long as 2 things are true:
1- hardware shipping priority is given to those waiting the longest and have not played the service address game. If there are only 50 dishs available to ship and there are 50 on a waitlist that has just opened up, they get priority over someone who just moved their service level to get a dish shipped so they can roam in their ACTUAL service area. In fact, I wish they would block you from roaming at your original service location just to keep people from doing it.
2- the roamer's presence in a service address not their own should not prevent Starlink from shipping a dish to someone in that same service area who has been waiting if there is available standard (non roaming) capacity. In other words, If a cell has capacity for (I'm just picking a number) 1000 dishs and 50 people in that area cancel their service, those 50 open spots are NOT consumed by roaming dishs. The next 50 waiting people who have that cell as their service address should not be delayed in getting their equipment
A few weeks back I attempted to move my service address (again, the same since Feb 2021) to a location that the map said was open. It told me that service would not be expanded to that area until mid-2023. When I started a NEW a account and selected that same open service area it offered me to pay the whole thing ($600+tax) and get my dish right away. Remember- those already on the waitlist before the price hike would only have to pay $550. Funny how it was open for NEW accounts having to pay $600..
I'm glad it is helping many get internet where they couldn't otherwise. but the longer I wait, the more shady crap I see Starlink doing/allowing. 15 months (in a VERY rural area) and still waiting.....
I am southern Ontario in a dark green area. An area I used to live in, 20 min away is light green. Out of curiosity I changed the longitude/latitude of my address to the old one that is light green and confirmed the change. Not sure if I was moving forward or getting bumped off the list! Within 15 min I rec'd an email advising that I had 5 days to check out and pay for the remainder owing on my Starlink account of $700+ or my request would be cancelled and my deposit refunded. I paid the amount requested on my account, and again within 15 min or so I rec'd an email with a link back to Starlink. The webpage advised my order was submitted and it would take approximately 2 weeks to receive the equipment. The area I am in has been on a waiting list for awhile and the light green area is in a really strange location. Maybe it was one of their test locations, not sure, but it worked for me and I will be on "roaming" while using it at my actual address. After it arrives I will try to change my "service address" to my correct location and see if I get full service or have to stay on roaming. Roaming is still likely better than what I am dealing with now so I will be advising Bell I no longer require their services soon!
I really think this practice should be stopped. There are so many of us who really need the service who have been waiting for a long time. Now many are jumping in line ahead of us and delaying, or possibly keeping us from getting Starlink.
I don't think it's that, they have the dishy availably....I ordered mine on Friday and have it running today using a free cell that's near me. My understanding is that the network (satalite or ground stations,not dishy) is the limiting factor, if I had to guess the version 1 satalites have a limited amount of dishy's they can connect to in each cell and if someone sets the service address they are almost guarantee the service but while on roaming SpaceX can temporarily slow down or disable your service while the network is full with the people that have that cell as their service address.
If you really need the service and have been waiting a long time, you may want to consider this workaround so you can get the service you need.
You have no proof that anyone doing this is directly affecting you
@@jayhaines8922 we have logic and common sense. Of course this practice is preventing many areas opening up. There is only so much band width.
I think it's like everything else Elon is doing.... it's a great idea and should be implemented as fast as humanly possible.... perhaps instead of fucking around with Twitter maybe Elon should focus on the thousands of projects he already has in motion....
I pre-ordered the first day this was announced. Been waiting and waiting... My friend ordered and received his dish in a week.
I used his neighbors address and shipped it here.
We are 4 miles away from each other...
How or why did I not receive mine first when I ordered over a year ago?!
Service is roaming and working great.
If you pre-ordered, just do this and get your equipment. Once your pre-ordered email comes through switch service addresses.
The folks that pre-ordered were to fundraisers for everyone else it seems.
That is why I did it. I ordered in the first 24 hours. I do not buy that my cell filled up that quick and stayed full for almost 15 months.
I live in the flathead Valley in Montara. Service is available all around the valley but not in the valley. That's crazy.
Sounds like you might be a good use case for this trick to get going now! Thanks for watching!
I got my first and only dish this week and was able to set it up and get it going well outside of my service area. I didn't do this trick to get mine earlier, I just happen to need it at a cottage and set it up at home to test it. It took quite a while to get going at first and said that it was at an unexpected location in the debug data. But after a while it changed to roaming instead.
Nice! Thanks for the confirmation that you were able to get it going the first time without needing to be in the home cell. It is pretty amazing tech :) Thanks for watching!
Hi Ryan, has your connection been throttled at your cottage if it is in a "waitlist" zone? I'm just curious how significant the throttling could be. My business could withstand a 50% drop in download and upload speed during high traffic times. Thanks for the info :)
After about 14 months wait my Starlink will arrive on Tuesday in NE Mississippi!
Nice! So you won't need "the trick" :) Good to see they're still opening up new capacity at a steady rate!
I've been waiting a year, already delayed once, and these yahoos are skipping line? Better hope I dont find you.
@MikeOnSpace Do you have any information or made any videos on current Starlink capacity and how many launches it might take to start turning dark green hexagons into light green ones? Also, I would be interested to know how these capacities are calculated based on the density of the satellite constellation.
Guess you got your answer
Very reliable Starllink information from current personal action.
I’m in Florida which is totally underserved compared to other states. Been waiting for almost two years now and all I have received was a price hike notice. Just incase you’re listening, talking softly or trying to sound like a reasonable person doesn’t justify your actions. However I’m sure you do. It also keeps viewers watching and $ flowing.
So, just to throw another wrench in the map....
I live in an area on the map as "wait list."
However, the guy who lives literally across the street from me (who clearly also lives in an area in the "wait list" area) was able to get a unit. He wound up giving it to me and it works great all in a "wait list area."
I also just ordered a second unit - for my parents, but they will be starting the unit up about 45 miles from the service address, so they will clearly be roaming..
What sorts of speeds are you currently getting in roaming mode?
I've been on the list for over a year and now it's available 5 houses north of me but not at my location. So tempted to try this, but I really do need the reliable service.
Ugh that would be painful. Go ahead and do the trick because I've read many scenarios on Reddit of just this situation and it worked fine for them.
I works I just did it. I been waiting for a year. Thanks to the coverage map I placed an order in an address were the cell that has service and I was able to place an order right away. I knew it would work because I had someone let me borrow their dish to test speeds outside a cell that has no service yet. And surprisingly my speeds were faster than theirs
@@bronson2585 update this to pet us know what kind of speeds you get.
We have Starlink in our area of Northern Nevada USA and I'm still waiting. When I make the change I must be SURE that it's going to work for me for the rest of the time that I live here. I can't take a chance on it not working because of my business which is all run online. So I'll wait a while longer and see how it goes.
Any updates for lousiana? Still waiting. No internet out here.
Still on the waiting list since February 2021. Central Texas is the service area. I have a friend who placed his deposit nearly two months after I did, and he received his Starlink about a month ago, even though, according to the Starlink "Available / Waitlist" map, he is also in a Waitlist area in Texas. Not sure how he got his before me, and he didn't do anything other than wait.
Yeah, I don't fully understand how they're deciding what cells to activate when. Hopefully this will all be a non-issue soon enough. Good luck getting yours ASAP!
I skipped the wait list but that was in beta and was less than a mile from my current locations. It wasn’t long until I could move to my right location. The way I look at it I was going to buy the equipment either way. If it doesn’t work it will work eventually. Also with that said I had a lot of random outages for a second up to a minute. I just attributed that to not being at the right location.
Yeah, definitely a lot of people doing the same. As you say - you're getting the hardware either way - this just let's to "be ready" for when your home cell has enough capacity. Thanks for watching!
when did this portability/roaming mode get enabled? In mid Febuary I did some testing with my rectangular dish and 30 miles away I got a message (pretty much instantly) that I was too far away from my registered location, move back there and try again. (it does work at the registered location, I was testing how far from there I could move it)
About a month ago or so.
I've been on the list waiting list for 18 months. My "service" currently consists of a Cisco device with a SIM card as that's "the best that can be done for you in your area". I'm waiting until June, then I'm going to employ the hack described herein. I don't care if they throttle me to really slow (I already have that problem), and I'm paying per GB currently... And I really do want to roam quite a bit as well (roaming is also available on my current SIM solution obviously since its essentially a hotspot with a very large antenna)
I've been waiting since you were first able to order it. My neighbor right next to me got about 6 months ago. :(
They are prioritizing new accounts over old ones. Try moving your current ($550) service address to an open area and it will not be available. Start a new account and enter the same open area and they will take your $600 today. New accounts get them $50 more of your $$.
@@lakecavanaugh thanks. Don't know why they are prioritizing new accounts though.
Nearest available cell to me is 200 miles away…. Guess I’ll just keep waiting 😩
Mike, Thank you for this video. I have been on waiting list for over a year and trying to keep my current AT&T wireless internet router alive. It finally died and AT&T no longer supports the device nor the plan leaving me no options. After watching this video I canceled my Starlink wait list order and ordered under an address 35 miles away that has the service. I am in the Leavenworth Kansas area. The order took, equipment arrived and activated on-site without having to drive to the address entered. Internet is working great, much better than what I had at the same price. Thank you for this timely video!
I have a chance for one that is north of me where a buddy is not getting it since he has excellent cable. I have Been waiting since day one Feb 27 of 2021 (deposit too) only to get pushed back to as late as 2022 ...maybe...?? I have his address but still unsure if I have it in my own area with usable signal.
I can meet all of the suggestions you make. ...BUT coverage I am unsure in the area I would "roam" where I live.
Any suggestions.? How can i evaluate the signal here where it will roam?
Jeez, I am still waiting in South Africa for this to reach us.
Man I've been waiting 5 years for internet finally I shall get it.
I did this 2 weeks ago without knowing all this. Should of watched your vid sooner. I do have another order at my real address from last year.
I was away from my permanent address for a bit. And wanted the dish for a a rental i had to stay at. I guess i should sell it to a person that will needs it
and hope they get service.
And yeah, they're relatively easy to transfer now but may be delays getting it done through support. Thanks for watching!
This isn’t like line cutters at Disney World waiting for a ride that’s always going to be running. This is more like people cutting line at the sandwich shop where there’s only so many sandwiches available for that day, week, month or year. Just because we can’t see you cutting line doesn’t make it right!
The map at least gives some more visibility into their process, but yeah - lots of stories of people STILL waiting for their cell to open up. Thanks for watching!
i literally used this trick last night, then you come out with this vid today, lol
So i live like 10 miles from an area that has service available do you think it will work good speeds in roaming mode ?
I checked the Starlink map and my place is in the wait area, but only in a hexagon just north of an active one. So the map is not 100% up to date. I am not sure if I will have service since the equipment is supposed to arrive on Tuesday and I will know then.
got my dish about a month ago in Arizona - after 2 weeks i moved 150 miles -
dish setup in 5 minutes and went into Roaming mode in about a day later -
speeds seem to be slower 60 to 150mbs - still Plenty Fast enough -
uploaded a 636mb file yesterday took 11 minutes - about 56mb per minute -
Roaming will open up tons of places for camping
location im at has ZERO cell service - not even emergency calls -
we just get the email 3 weeks ago, get it paid and we install the dish 3 days ago. this is Mexican Caribeean, as far i understand Mexico give them the broadcast license with a maximum time to start servicing the country. maybe is why they rush to send dishes...
Interesting.....I just ordered a week ago and dish was delivered today..though I am still waiting for the roof mount and RJ45 dock. Any update on your rectangle teardown?
Wow! Took me over eight months to get mine.
@@LifesLaboratory Still waiting... 15 months....
We did use your suggestions. We found a UPS Store in a Cell 30 miles from us. We set up the account for that service address. We ordered the dish to be sent to our house. We got the dish in 10 days. My husband set it up on a high point at our neighbor's house.
He then brought it home and put it on our roof. It linked up right away. We have been using Starlink for five days. It is on roaming. The speeds are slower than reported, but vastly faster than ViaSat and 4G LTE. It's a good thing because my 4G LTE provider lost their unlimited contract. We were sunk. My kid wouldn't be able to get to school, I would have had to drive around the city to get to my remote job. It was perfect timing, and we did it because of this video. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
And that is where the moral dilemma comes in- in doing what you did, are you consuming capacity that is preventing someone waiting longer than you from getting their dish?
@Christineeve That's great! So glad it's working well for you! This sounds like a situation that is a perfect use case for this technique. I'm so excited at the potential Starlink has to get people connected no matter where they choose to live! Thanks for the kind comment and thanks for watching!
@@lakecavanaugh Since I'm roaming, I doubt it. If starlink had an issue with it, no doubt, they would shut off roaming.
@@MikeOnSpace Thanks. Since we are roaming. We are prioritized, but it is better than nothing. And that's what we have here, nothing.
Nice jacket. IZOD? Haha
Great video Mike, will help some get their equipment faster I think is a good idea. In NS we are completely green, still checking my DeBug data everyday for weeks now waiting to see a true status on Roaming.
Hey Gary! Good to hear from you again. I saw your comment on my other video but I don't think I replied yet: the roaming flag shows when you ARE roaming, not that you CAN. So if you're in your home area it won't say roaming, even if it's available. Your best bet is to try it somewhere else and see if the flag switches then. Let me know if that works. Thanks for watching!
@@MikeOnSpace oh ok I get it now, I will try that, thanks again, cheers
There's 2 cells active in Lake Ontario that I'm sure has no residential users lol How do I set my address to that ? XD
when you get away from the city, stay away from it :)
I ordered Feb 8 2021. They said I would get my dish mid to late 2021. Still waiting. Now they have raised the price. Anyone who ordered before the price increase should be grandfathered in at the old price.
Yep. Exactly the same here. BTW- if you move your service address on your existing account (the now $550 one) to an open area (per the starlink map), it will still tell you that service won't be available until Mid-2023 or later. If you start a new account (a $600 one), and choose that same open area, they will ship it to you TODAY.
Hmmmmm.
Old school GPS.. downlink Satellite Ephermis, orbital data and then converges on windows of opportunity
Those Ethernet adapters are in more short supply then even the dishes themselves my theory is people are finding out you can scalp them on eBay and their buying more then one as the website doesn’t seem to have a purchase limit once your able to buy them because as you know you can’t purchase one until you get the email to purchase your dish this is so Frustrating because I just need one and I’ve been waiting 5 weeks now and no update in terms of shipping for the adapter…
Yeah, that's a great point. Same thing with the pole mount adaptors over the last little while. There always seems to be SOMETHING in short supply. Hopefully that's just a temporary situation. I'm working on another video that let's you power the dish from battery and completely remove the Starlink router and plug into your own. Definitely more involved modification, but if you're desperate? Thanks for watching!
@@MikeOnSpace yeah it’s crazy…. Oh that’ll be a fun watch I subbed so I’ll be waiting for the video thanks!
@@MikeOnSpace Have you already removed the back shell from your rectangle dishy? I got tired of waiting for Starlink to release their ESIM hardware, and it seems easy enough to use a router table or a fixture mounted heated blade (used for foam cutting) to make a clean separation line, attach a new flat back with exposed contact points and create a completely flat magnetically mountable panel that remains fully water sealed. Then you can just attach a mag cord to lay it on the ground or propped up like a solar panel, or slap it onto a fixed roof car mount, or right back onto the base back shell to utilize the motor alignment when desired.
As a temp solution, just by a WiFi range extender or repeater with an ethernet port in it. It will not be as fast but you will get you wired devices working
I just checked my location on starlink and at the top under my address that states "Service for this order is only guaranteed at this location."
Yes, that's the same for everyone, you are only guaranteed to be provided service at your registered service address. If you set up your dish somewhere else you will be given service on a best effort basis only, you may have poor, intermittent, or no service at all, and you're not allowed to complain about it to Starlink is all that message means.
If they delay my order a second time, then I'll definitely use this trick. Better than waiting another year.
Yeah, I still don't fully understand how they are choosing which cells to activate when, but I do really appreciate them making the map public. At least it adds SOME visibility to the process. Thanks for watching!
Sounds like a good line to draw in the sand. I'm in the same boat, will probably go this route as well.
I tried this not totally understanding Starlink service. Now I have no service, no customer service and 1000 in equipment that’s a waist.
No trick. I am waiting patiently
still waiting says june but who knows
Anyone in Louisiana who signed up in Feb 2021 still waiting? I know people who are near me who signed up 6 months after me and they have it now. Don’t know what is going on
In 40 days it will have been a year since the order was placed. Starlink says now mid 2022 after the initial time was mid to late 2022. We shall see. The map shows that we are a wait cell with cells due East of us active and cells NW, W, SW and S of is active. Makes no sense as we are rural and the ones to the other directions either have no residences or one of two to the East is mostly water.
A satellite passing over your cell is also servicing many other cells around you. Each satellite covers a very large area.
@@LifesLaboratory Well as of a check today. "Starlink expects to expand service in your area in May 2022." That changed from Mid 2022. So it will be about one year from when it was ordered.
Will it be available in India?
I'm sure it WILL be, but every country has their own steps to get regulated before SpaceX can operate. There are definitely still HUGE areas on that map that are dark. Hopefully they'll continue lighting up new areas quickly! Thanks for watching!
Elon is from America, yet Canada has full coverage first? What's that all aboot?
Great vid my man. Keep it up
I guess one advantage of having so few people up here ;) Thanks for watching!
Elon is from. South Africa, emigrated to Canada, then moved to the US where he has dual citizenship. Canadians and US citizens are all Americans.
There wouldn't be much point in not allowing people to pay for the service if they effectively have no impact on its congestion. I lucked out. I live in BC at 53N latitude, so I'm not sharing with many people. But also, the satellites are at the northernmost part of their arc as they pass overhead. They track ESE to WSW over my house and we generally have four or more in our FOV. I was really worried about obstructions as we have a lot of trees, but it just so happens that the one part of the sky that is clear is the narrow stretch of sky they travel. The eight month wait was well worth it. Our service is consistently more than five times faster than our previous cell-based service. Edit: Also, I've never met anyone in Canada that says "aboot". ;)
@@bob_frazier "Canadians and US citizens are all Americans." No, they are both North Americans and they are both inhabitants of the Americas. In language, the most popular usage of a word becomes the understood meaning of the word. This applies regardless of the etymology of the word. The people of the United States need an adjective to describe their nationality, and they have chosen one. Unless Americans start calling themselves Unitedstatesians, this will not change. As a Canadian, I sure as hell would never refer to myself as an American. Sorry, I see this argument come up quite often and it's become a pet peeve of mine. Cheers.
@@LifesLaboratory North Americans are not Americans? That's some pet peve you have!
No I’m been on the list forever then just saw we have service over a year wait
My kids got this for me and it's still in the box. I don't stream anything and never will, and my internet is garbage but good enough. It's going to make them nuts but I didn't want it so it's staying in the box.
If nothing else you could set it up as a nice coffee table - that'll definitely make them nuts ;) Maybe you could tear yours apart like I'm doing! Thanks for watching!
On a positive note, when you start paying for Starlink, you are supporting their business, which pays for launches, etc. I say order your terminal... and realize that you might have limited bandwidth.
Jokes on u I already got it
I’m curious, would a starlink purchased in US work in Ireland (assuming correct power adapter?) - seems like Ireland has good coverage and I visit a couple of times a year.
Good question. Marcus over at www.tuckstruck.net/starlink/ been testing with a US Starlink terminal down in Mexico and it's been working well for him.
There is a section in the terms of service that says that the customer is responsible for obeying local regulations for usage. This suggests that MAYBE Starlink will let it work in a country, even if they're not actually authorized. I haven't tried it myself, but I'll be doing some testing in other countries over the next few months. I'll let you know how it goes!
@@MikeOnSpace Assuming there is a ground station in range (until the laser satellites come online).
Every dollar I pay to Starlink helps Spacex to neuter Putin's space industry.
Don't use the trick.. they will shut u down
Yeah, if you need reliable internet, you have no guarantees outside of your registered service address. SpaceX can slow you down or cut you off if the cell is busy and you're just a visiting "roamer". That said, it still might be better than what you have now, so depends on the situation. Thanks for watching!
Dude sounds a bit like trump
This is a hoax it does not work!!
$700 to get the dish, $110 / month for service. Why would you want it? Even if you can't get a hard line you can always use hotspot on your phone or get a dedicated cell connection for less money. I don't understand why people would pay this much for internet service.
I dont think you understand how much people pay for Satellite internet through the legacy providers, and I pay $110 a month for 400mbps cable internet. We are talking places that don’t even have cell towers nearby for a hotspot, and the speeds and latency are dogshit compared to Starlink
I pay 130 a month for 24mps down dsl. It's the entire county's option. At 110 a month, it's simply a bargain compared to what millions of people are paying and it provides speeds that don't exist for people outside major service areas.
@@MegamanEXEv2 yeah that blows my mind, I thought everyone had access to cell towers and if you don't get hotspot for free it's usually only a $10 upcharge on your smartphone.
Because most hotspot devices or your phones hotspot feature throttle at a certain usage point like for instance after 50 gigs used you get throttled way down to the point of not being able to watch even a low resolution RUclips video and with Starlink it’s unthrottled atleast right now it’s not I mean maybe there’s unthrottled 4g or 5g lte services out there at a good price I don’t know you’d have to do your research or stay within the data window 20,30,50 etc…
4g isn't available where I live. I'm sure I'm not alone.