I think there’s one big problem that’s been going on since I think season 6 or 7 and that is that The Flash is not showing The Flash, it sometimes has episodes where he doesn’t even appear or Barry just puts on the suit in the last minutes of the episode and this is a problem that is still happening in season 9, although not as much as the other seasons, I say this since it’s something that nobody talks about and I think it’s a big issue
I take back what I said season 9 is once again ignoring Flash and up to this point there has been 3 episodes where Flash feels like a secondary character and not the main character
I think the reason eobard was able to come back after being arrested is because he is a living paradox and without him the beginning events of the first season 1 would never have happened because he caused time to become a loop where Barry becomes the Flash causing the rest of time play out
the biggest problem with every villan that gets time erased is that the show never seems to realize that it shouldn't be possible to erase them at all. grandfather paradox, if thawne isn't born, he doesn't fuck with barry, if he doesn't fuck with barry season 1 never happens, if season 1 never happens eddi never shoots himself, if he never shoots himself thawne is born. savitar, if barry saves iris, he never goes crazy and makes remnants, if that doesn't happen one doesn't become savitar, if savitar doesn't exist Barry doesn't see him kill iris in the future, if barry doesn't see that, he doesn't try to stop it, if barry doesn't go out of his way to earase him, then he should be able to kill iris and live. so while you are right, the true reason thawn is around is because it shouldn't be possible for him to get erased.
The first 2 seasons were booked really well from beginning to end.Then season 3 started with Barry stalking Iris and it was all downhill from there no matter if there were times where I enjoyed certain episodes from season 3 to season 7(because episode 13 of season 7 is where I said "enough is enough").Also they became bias in real life where they fired Hartley for inappropriate tweets yet kept Candice around after her past inappropriate tweets were leaked when they could've just re-casted Iris or brought Hartley back to keep themselves from being hypocrites
For me, I still enjoyed season 3 cause savitar was cold after. Season 4 was the downfall for me though I enjoyed watching the Thinker. After season 4 there was no hope, and no, season 8 was NOT that good either, and 9 is even worse
@@6-dpegasus425 I agree anything after Savitar is just downright bad with some cool scenes sprinkled here and there. Like when Reverse Flash comes back from Eobard!!!!
"That's the thing about time travel Barry. The more you do it, the less the rules apply to you." To me that sounds like he's suggesting when you break the rules of time travel you're breaking time itself and weakening it and thus making it easier to break the rules. This still presents a problem though because such a claim should have serious consequences in the long run which would be really cool if they actually tackled but I won't hold my breath. It should lead to an eventual breakage of time itself that would cause all reality to become unstable and chaotic. Not to mention the time wraiths should be after Savitar for damaging the timeline.
So from what I gather the reintroduction of Thawne in season 2 is because that was the original past version, that can't be erased because he needs to cause the events that lead to his destruction. His birth no longer happens, but the remnant of him is still around until it completes everything it needs to before being erased. Unfortunately Barry creating Flashpoint alters him significantly, allowing him to create more remnants that hide out in the speed force. This is why there's multiple versions. The original that goes off to legends, the one that dies, and the one that escapes with Wells face and continues gunning it for Barry.
That's disrespectful. Power Rangers Lost Galaxy was a much more satisfying watch. In fact, multiple PR seasons were better than the Flash. Dino Thunder, Lost Galaxy, Time Force, In Space, Ninja Storm, SPD, RPM (for the most part)...then PR became shit lol.
The Flash has always been bad. No matter how much the fans loved the earlier seasons, they were still bad. They were simply less bad than the later seasons. The writers have always taken liberties and expected the fans to gobble it up. And then willingly gaslight them when they point out the lazy writing.
What's ironic is that the problem with all the speedsters is also the problem with the comics, it's something I call powerset redundancy where you have too many characters with the same or similar powersets which makes them all feel the same.
Well, i agree with everything. If i had to add something, this is the fact the "villains" are basically a parody post s2. I mean, Savitar... He's menacing, but once you have the reveal, it's basically "Emo-Barry" doing a trantrum (and all the build up around his suit or powers are bullshit with this stone). The Thinker... One the paper, he's not a "menacing" type, but his shenanigans are a problem. I liked the idea, not the execution. For me, a great villain doing that is Lex Luthor. Trough the show, Thinker was kind of lame. Cicada... Pass. At no point he was menacing at all. The guy with a dague? When Flash struggled against him, i was: "WTF is going on?" And they end with Thawn. I liked the twist with him in the end, but, what was the point? Mirror Master... Basically: girl going nut on cosplay. Godspeed... What the fuck what those cyborg copy clones? And how is he menacing? The guy literally is a carricature.... Then... Thawn again? I mean... S1, he's a genius evil speedster. S8, he's some kind of dumbass in a suit 10x too large. Beside that, you mentioned basically every based explanation about why it's a shit show post s2.
Well actually reverse flash is a paradox so he can't really be killed. That was described in the comic books before the show came out. My problem has more to do with how involved they made iris. Season 1 and 2 didn't really involved iris too much but after 2 it started making her too involved in the story of the show.
The show is called The Flash not Team Flash i wanted to see more Flash or Kid flash i wanted to see less speedsters and only wanted like to see like 2 speedsters per season but no they need to have so many
It's Iris .... She was the beginning of the end. She became Mrs flash and they had to find Mrs flash a woke role. The other problem is Barry didn't want to aspire to do what was right. He was aspiring to be a hero. Heros do the right thing, but they do it because it is right; not because they want others to perceive them as heroic. And then comes all the moralizing, the soap opera backstories, and a pantheon of character arc chaos and confusion. It's too many chefs in the kitchen. It's just bad. Now, this hero thing has plagued DC and not MC. In MC, it's great power, and great responsibility. MC characters do it out of obligation and not the celebrity of being a hero. The least celebrity type in DC is Batman. He doesn't want to be batman. He has no choice. And modern DC at times is even worst as in superman who doesn't want to do what's right -- he wants to lead a normal life more. If he could shrug it off he would. Look at Batman v. Superman when he simply walks way from an explosion and does nothing, feels nothing, but self-centered superiority.
Correction: Cicada is metahuman, he’s psychically connected to his dagger, that how that works, Thor’s hammer shit, has super strength crushing a Pilar or whatever and breaking XS’s back and He has flow multiple time, to get away Also team Flash can’t fight
Firstly, I think The Flash seasons are too long and drawn out. Make it 10 episodes a season, to heck with the extra villains and side missions. Flash needs to drop the boring emotional Talk-Jutsu every chance he gets. Iris sucks, every season it's Barry gets threatened and meets villain, villain kidnaps ir wants to kill Iris blah blah....it's the same plot every season.
There is only one thing that I kind of have to partially disagree with. The whole talking his enemies down. Flash, in both the comics and the cartoons, actually does do this at times. He has a good relationship with his rogues gallery. It shouldn't be used all the time, or even often, but no issues with it being used occasionally. That being said, I stopped watching after season 5 so...
I actually liked the 3rd season vibe it being darker is a bit more comic accrate and makes it far more realistic I think 3 was better than 2 tbh It really went downhill during season 4 Season 4 tried to fix season 3 being darker but making it more lighthearted But season 4 was too goofy to the point it was cringy
@@IronKnight954 Savatars motivation is still better than zooms Cisco not bring happt was only for like 8 ep out of the 23 Zoom stopped being cool after his identity was revealed
Chester last name mean a word that may offend someone, if you translate it from norwegian to english. Something that most men do. I didn't know until recently, but Marvel have also some other crazy names too, after they are translated from norwegian.
When my two favourite characters Cisco and Joe starting appearing sporadically in a season (can't remember which one it was) it lost its footing and became less grounded amongst all the technical flashpoint related story plots. I have never liked Iris. She is always the damsel in distress, and the relationship has that creepy incest vibe. I always thought Caitlan to be Barry's intellectual equal and therefore would think he would be more attracted to her. I agree that there are too many speedsters. I would love to have more storylines about how Barry's speed affects his normal body functions and reproductive system. No jokes about his sex life....c'mon. The possibilities are endless. I would love to see and evil horny Barry. That would be hilarious. At least it's not as bad as the last few seasons of Arrow.
The Flash has a superhero team in the comics called The Flash Family and every single member, excluding Iris West, Joan Garrick and Wally's parents have super speed.
Here’s the thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but this show has FACTUALLY gone downhill. That’s an objective view now. No longer subjective. Not me being arrogant or entitled or ignorant, just stating this.
what getting worse are we talking about? If the one of the main willains of first season was a fucking guy with a gun that literally walked away from fastest man alive at least 20 times.
I feel like, if you can take a whole series, and simply cut out the scenes of one character, and then lay down all those scenes back to back, and watch them all, you should have a coherent "movie" now about that character by themselves. I don't feel like the Arrowverse shows pass this test because there's 35 main characters lol
Totally agree with your breakdown of Flash seasons! Season 6 was indeed the absolute pivotal point when the Flash fell like TONS of bricks! It not "pc" to point out the "core" problem these days because you get "labeled". U did mention too many "characters" so I ask "what characters" and too much come together "mental crisis" but what is the common thread involving all the things u spoke of? I ask U and others who use to love the Flash, but now hate it! What's the common thread pushed to ruin a show!
Crossovers even came with major spoiler for another serie as well... And to get one crossover story complete, I had to get a another streaming, that I didn't needed, but had to watch that less wanted serie of them all, Batgirl. It was free to watch for that day, so I did saw it. And I still don't have that streaming service, HBO I think it was😅
Grant’s acting to me is below sub par and outside of the obvious errors in the plot lines and overall story arcs, the casting for The FLASH could have been better
@@TheAMSport I agree it does, albeit the casting does as well. Imagine some of the most beloved television series from back in the day casting mediocre or below basic actors to assume the roles instead of the actors they casted that made them iconic. The writing and plot can never substitute nor be a supplement for poor acting/stage presence
After you watch Madvocate's video about S1 - S4, you'll understand why the flash is horrible. This show is just so frustrating, I completely abandoned, and I was glad when they announced that they were going to end it. It sucks that the best “Flash, Grant Gustin” never got a better material to work with.
My opinion Season 1: Best season besttttttt Season 2: 2nd best season beautiful Season 3: 3rd best seasonnnn Season 4….: I didn’t really understand how devoe got defeated ngl it’s like he wanted himself to lose in a way. Season 5: I actually really liked cicada and didn’t like grace but man I felt like cicada spammed the same 2 moves Jump Dagger field Season 6: I liked bloodwork a little bit but I hated and I mean hatedddddd mirror monarch she’s such a bland villain ngl Season 7: didn’t finish but I’m like episode 5 or 6 Season 8: didn’t watch yet Season 9: I hope it ends before I finish season 8
I used to and still do love the show due to the fact I’ve been watching since it started airing,I can agree that it has gone on a decline imo since season 5
Easily the most contradictory show in terms of both time travel and the intelligence of characters. Team Flash is a bunch of scientists with the emotional maturity less than that of middle schoolers.
It got bad. EZRA FLASH appeared and no one liked him because tv flash was awesome then the nose dive came along to close out just in time for the flash movie. If grant can't appear in 2 batmen I hope john wesley Shipp gets to cameo in the else world's finest movie labeled the flash
Lost interest after season 3 , got confused with what was actually going on, in the series, it started to make no sense. too many "Flash" Power characters making no sense. like the review why you explained what i was thinking, PLOT really got messy and stupid made no sense.
Once Eric Wallace touched this show it has been downhill like his concepts are great but the execution and whoever writing the episodes are straight trash
IMO Crisis on infinite earths should have been the end on the arrowverse.. this was the last time i felt excited about flash or arrow at all everything after just seems kinda meh
The flash sucks cause of already bad villians, bad plot in many ways, boring charapers, ruined RF and didnt supported snowbarry. Thats it. If the show was from the orginal timeline barry it would've been better
The final season SUCKS so far. Honestly i dont blame the actors (execpt Iris), the fault comes all because the producers. The power rangers soap opera for gays gives them extra cash and we all know its all about money sadly.
I stopped watching midway through season 5 possibly before. It just lost my interest. It doesn’t sound as bad as later seasons but still bad compared to the first 2 seasons.
yeah this show turned into dogshit. Ofc it had its flaws in the early seasons but I enjoyed those seasons and they were actually entertaining. I honestly just watch it now to see what happens now and not because I enjoy it. Season 9 continues to be garbage so far at least. I mean who knows maybe the next episodes may redeem the season but I'm not hopeful. I've seen the set pictures and I'm glad that old characters are coming back but I'm sure they'll ruin it somehow
It's just poorly written... I mean characters don't grow. When they learn from their mistakes in the next episode they will do it again.. with the same ahaa result... Even from comics, someone said, this concept of a hero with this kind of superpower such as speedforce is one of the richest if not the top for building stories, but this is just shit
It was the prominence of leftism and then the George floyd bullshit that ruined this show. That’s the entire reason they “talk down” all the villains and give them a free pass. It was trash after that.
These kinds of structured video essays are new to me, so don’t expect anything amazing, but if this does well maybe I’ll do another one!
Season 9 had Red Death for the first 5 episodes. What did you think of those episodes?
Red death in season 9 sucks
I’m watching the finale episode and this season really sucks and was cheesy. Please do a take on the finale.
The writer was changed so that's why its bad
I think there’s one big problem that’s been going on since I think season 6 or 7 and that is that The Flash is not showing The Flash, it sometimes has episodes where he doesn’t even appear or Barry just puts on the suit in the last minutes of the episode and this is a problem that is still happening in season 9, although not as much as the other seasons, I say this since it’s something that nobody talks about and I think it’s a big issue
I take back what I said season 9 is once again ignoring Flash and up to this point there has been 3 episodes where Flash feels like a secondary character and not the main character
I think the reason eobard was able to come back after being arrested is because he is a living paradox and without him the beginning events of the first season 1 would never have happened because he caused time to become a loop where Barry becomes the Flash causing the rest of time play out
the biggest problem with every villan that gets time erased is that the show never seems to realize that it shouldn't be possible to erase them at all. grandfather paradox, if thawne isn't born, he doesn't fuck with barry, if he doesn't fuck with barry season 1 never happens, if season 1 never happens eddi never shoots himself, if he never shoots himself thawne is born.
savitar, if barry saves iris, he never goes crazy and makes remnants, if that doesn't happen one doesn't become savitar, if savitar doesn't exist Barry doesn't see him kill iris in the future, if barry doesn't see that, he doesn't try to stop it, if barry doesn't go out of his way to earase him, then he should be able to kill iris and live. so while you are right, the true reason thawn is around is because it shouldn't be possible for him to get erased.
Simple, The Flash shouldn't exist anymore because of it, meaning that Barry would get his parents back, but no Flash at all... well until later maybe.
Don't want to jump down that rabbit whole today.
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Sad how he has his Best costume on the worst seasons.
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All the season's are bad though.
@@ClearmindArtist disagree with the first 2 seasons.
@@ClearmindArtist no the first 3 were good
Season 8 is the best sense 4
The first 2 seasons were booked really well from beginning to end.Then season 3 started with Barry stalking Iris and it was all downhill from there no matter if there were times where I enjoyed certain episodes from season 3 to season 7(because episode 13 of season 7 is where I said "enough is enough").Also they became bias in real life where they fired Hartley for inappropriate tweets yet kept Candice around after her past inappropriate tweets were leaked when they could've just re-casted Iris or brought Hartley back to keep themselves from being hypocrites
For me, I still enjoyed season 3 cause savitar was cold after. Season 4 was the downfall for me though I enjoyed watching the Thinker. After season 4 there was no hope, and no, season 8 was NOT that good either, and 9 is even worse
@@6-dpegasus425 I agree anything after Savitar is just downright bad with some cool scenes sprinkled here and there. Like when Reverse Flash comes back from Eobard!!!!
@@KonEl17 that was cool, but reverse flashs return would've been way better if he came back in the old suit
@@6-dpegasus425 ok definitely agree the old suit woulda been nice lol
With the revelation that Superman and Lois has the same budget as the other Arrowverse shows is INSANE!!!!
"That's the thing about time travel Barry. The more you do it, the less the rules apply to you." To me that sounds like he's suggesting when you break the rules of time travel you're breaking time itself and weakening it and thus making it easier to break the rules. This still presents a problem though because such a claim should have serious consequences in the long run which would be really cool if they actually tackled but I won't hold my breath. It should lead to an eventual breakage of time itself that would cause all reality to become unstable and chaotic. Not to mention the time wraiths should be after Savitar for damaging the timeline.
So from what I gather the reintroduction of Thawne in season 2 is because that was the original past version, that can't be erased because he needs to cause the events that lead to his destruction. His birth no longer happens, but the remnant of him is still around until it completes everything it needs to before being erased. Unfortunately Barry creating Flashpoint alters him significantly, allowing him to create more remnants that hide out in the speed force. This is why there's multiple versions. The original that goes off to legends, the one that dies, and the one that escapes with Wells face and continues gunning it for Barry.
That's disrespectful. Power Rangers Lost Galaxy was a much more satisfying watch. In fact, multiple PR seasons were better than the Flash. Dino Thunder, Lost Galaxy, Time Force, In Space, Ninja Storm, SPD, RPM (for the most part)...then PR became shit lol.
The Flash has always been bad. No matter how much the fans loved the earlier seasons, they were still bad. They were simply less bad than the later seasons.
The writers have always taken liberties and expected the fans to gobble it up. And then willingly gaslight them when they point out the lazy writing.
What's ironic is that the problem with all the speedsters is also the problem with the comics, it's something I call powerset redundancy where you have too many characters with the same or similar powersets which makes them all feel the same.
Cicada was a metahuman and he had a neice with whom he had a father/daughter relationship with.
Sorry to hear about you watching crossovers, that sounded frustrating.
Well, i agree with everything. If i had to add something, this is the fact the "villains" are basically a parody post s2.
I mean, Savitar... He's menacing, but once you have the reveal, it's basically "Emo-Barry" doing a trantrum (and all the build up around his suit or powers are bullshit with this stone).
The Thinker... One the paper, he's not a "menacing" type, but his shenanigans are a problem. I liked the idea, not the execution. For me, a great villain doing that is Lex Luthor. Trough the show, Thinker was kind of lame.
Cicada... Pass. At no point he was menacing at all. The guy with a dague? When Flash struggled against him, i was: "WTF is going on?" And they end with Thawn. I liked the twist with him in the end, but, what was the point?
Mirror Master... Basically: girl going nut on cosplay.
Godspeed... What the fuck what those cyborg copy clones? And how is he menacing? The guy literally is a carricature....
Then... Thawn again? I mean... S1, he's a genius evil speedster. S8, he's some kind of dumbass in a suit 10x too large.
Beside that, you mentioned basically every based explanation about why it's a shit show post s2.
You forgot about bloodwork
gave me venom vibes but was definitely a better villain than any other post s5 villain
Literally not as bad as people say though, pretty decent and enjoyable
Red Death is the one cracking a tantrum. They had potential to make it work and decided her motive was, the Flash annoys me.
good thing cicada isnt actually a main villain
@@Demonboy238 Another day for CW
The mistake was, turning the show into a kiddy lovefest
Well actually reverse flash is a paradox so he can't really be killed. That was described in the comic books before the show came out. My problem has more to do with how involved they made iris. Season 1 and 2 didn't really involved iris too much but after 2 it started making her too involved in the story of the show.
The show is called The Flash not Team Flash i wanted to see more Flash or Kid flash i wanted to see less speedsters and only wanted like to see like 2 speedsters per season but no they need to have so many
It's Iris .... She was the beginning of the end. She became Mrs flash and they had to find Mrs flash a woke role. The other problem is Barry didn't want to aspire to do what was right. He was aspiring to be a hero. Heros do the right thing, but they do it because it is right; not because they want others to perceive them as heroic. And then comes all the moralizing, the soap opera backstories, and a pantheon of character arc chaos and confusion. It's too many chefs in the kitchen. It's just bad.
Now, this hero thing has plagued DC and not MC. In MC, it's great power, and great responsibility. MC characters do it out of obligation and not the celebrity of being a hero. The least celebrity type in DC is Batman. He doesn't want to be batman. He has no choice. And modern DC at times is even worst as in superman who doesn't want to do what's right -- he wants to lead a normal life more. If he could shrug it off he would. Look at Batman v. Superman when he simply walks way from an explosion and does nothing, feels nothing, but self-centered superiority.
Defeating enemies with the power of friendship like some shitty cartoon.
How, two words.
"Team Flash"
Godspeed not dying in The 7th doesn't make sense and it's also one of the plotholes and problems with Season 7 and this entire show as a whole.
Correction: Cicada is metahuman, he’s psychically connected to his dagger, that how that works, Thor’s hammer shit, has super strength crushing a Pilar or whatever and breaking XS’s back and He has flow multiple time, to get away Also team Flash can’t fight
Well summarized, stole the thoughts out of my head:) Often wonder how the show would have been if it went in another direction.
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Two words Eric Wallace
Firstly, I think The Flash seasons are too long and drawn out. Make it 10 episodes a season, to heck with the extra villains and side missions. Flash needs to drop the boring emotional Talk-Jutsu every chance he gets. Iris sucks, every season it's Barry gets threatened and meets villain, villain kidnaps ir wants to kill Iris blah blah....it's the same plot every season.
For me personally it the effect they went from WOWOWOWOWOWOW to cool i guess it just downgrated it look so bad
There is only one thing that I kind of have to partially disagree with. The whole talking his enemies down. Flash, in both the comics and the cartoons, actually does do this at times. He has a good relationship with his rogues gallery. It shouldn't be used all the time, or even often, but no issues with it being used occasionally. That being said, I stopped watching after season 5 so...
you are forgetting to add zoom scenes in the first 10 sec of this video...that zoom running in the city is just pure terror
I actually liked the 3rd season vibe it being darker is a bit more comic accrate and makes it far more realistic
I think 3 was better than 2 tbh
It really went downhill during season 4
Season 4 tried to fix season 3 being darker but making it more lighthearted
But season 4 was too goofy to the point it was cringy
Season 2 was better than 3
@@IronKnight954 lol no zooms motivation was such a let down
@@thelegendarymarioman8461 savitar and alchemy were to and Cisco wasn’t happy and zoom was much cooler
@@IronKnight954
Savatars motivation is still better than zooms
Cisco not bring happt was only for like 8 ep out of the 23
Zoom stopped being cool after his identity was revealed
@@thelegendarymarioman8461 So was savitar and Cisco was sad for 20 out of the 23
Chester last name mean a word that may offend someone, if you translate it from norwegian to english. Something that most men do.
I didn't know until recently, but Marvel have also some other crazy names too, after they are translated from norwegian.
while i personally still like the show overall, i wholeheartedly agree with this video. its NOWHERE near as good as it used to be and its kinda sad
When my two favourite characters Cisco and Joe starting appearing sporadically in a season (can't remember which one it was) it lost its footing and became less grounded amongst all the technical flashpoint related story plots. I have never liked Iris. She is always the damsel in distress, and the relationship has that creepy incest vibe. I always thought Caitlan to be Barry's intellectual equal and therefore would think he would be more attracted to her. I agree that there are too many speedsters. I would love to have more storylines about how Barry's speed affects his normal body functions and reproductive system. No jokes about his sex life....c'mon. The possibilities are endless. I would love to see and evil horny Barry. That would be hilarious. At least it's not as bad as the last few seasons of Arrow.
erick wallasce happened :/
The Flash has a superhero team in the comics called The Flash Family and every single member, excluding Iris West, Joan Garrick and Wally's parents have super speed.
They are also better written, unlike the idiots on CW The Flash
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He can’t fight he just fast
Here’s the thing. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but this show has FACTUALLY gone downhill. That’s an objective view now. No longer subjective. Not me being arrogant or entitled or ignorant, just stating this.
I salute you, I realised the show was getting trash in season 4 and totally stopped watch, BOY was i right... Nice video btw
With the Characters, the good characters we like left the show, and were replaced by boring ones.
Using the law and order sound effect means you must pay the creator for each instance, save your money up 😂😂😂😂
what getting worse are we talking about? If the one of the main willains of first season was a fucking guy with a gun that literally walked away from fastest man alive at least 20 times.
they have to elaborate more scene and introduce to new kind of villain
it's a lot more to improve
but as now i can't wait to see season 9 ep7 !!!
I feel like, if you can take a whole series, and simply cut out the scenes of one character, and then lay down all those scenes back to back, and watch them all, you should have a coherent "movie" now about that character by themselves. I don't feel like the Arrowverse shows pass this test because there's 35 main characters lol
Totally agree with your breakdown of Flash seasons! Season 6 was indeed the absolute pivotal point when the Flash fell like TONS of bricks! It not "pc" to point out the "core" problem these days because you get "labeled". U did mention too many "characters" so I ask "what characters" and too much come together "mental crisis" but what is the common thread involving all the things u spoke of? I ask U and
others who use to love the Flash, but now hate it! What's the common thread pushed to ruin a show!
The main reason: Eric Wallace
Crossovers even came with major spoiler for another serie as well...
And to get one crossover story complete, I had to get a another streaming, that I didn't needed, but had to watch that less wanted serie of them all, Batgirl.
It was free to watch for that day, so I did saw it. And I still don't have that streaming service, HBO I think it was😅
Ok they have some lamish moments but Grant is an Incredible flash that should been in the Movie insead
Grant’s acting to me is below sub par and outside of the obvious errors in the plot lines and overall story arcs, the casting for The FLASH could have been better
@marcellusjohnson9439 sorry not for Me ..the Writing and direction plays Major part onto all decisions
@@TheAMSport I agree it does, albeit the casting does as well. Imagine some of the most beloved television series from back in the day casting mediocre or below basic actors to assume the roles instead of the actors they casted that made them iconic. The writing and plot can never substitute nor be a supplement for poor acting/stage presence
@@marcellusjohnson9439 yeah truth..like Michael Knight..DAVID HASSELHOFF..Knight Rider.. I don't think it could have worked for no one else
After you watch Madvocate's video about S1 - S4, you'll understand why the flash is horrible. This show is just so frustrating, I completely abandoned, and I was glad when they announced that they were going to end it. It sucks that the best “Flash, Grant Gustin” never got a better material to work with.
My opinion
Season 1: Best season besttttttt
Season 2: 2nd best season beautiful
Season 3: 3rd best seasonnnn
Season 4….: I didn’t really understand how devoe got defeated ngl it’s like he wanted himself to lose in a way.
Season 5: I actually really liked cicada and didn’t like grace but man I felt like cicada spammed the same 2 moves
Jump
Dagger field
Season 6: I liked bloodwork a little bit but I hated and I mean hatedddddd mirror monarch she’s such a bland villain ngl
Season 7: didn’t finish but I’m like episode 5 or 6
Season 8: didn’t watch yet
Season 9: I hope it ends before I finish season 8
Yoooo dude! Small creator, big content! It's amazing man!
Too much team not enough flash.
I used to and still do love the show due to the fact I’ve been watching since it started airing,I can agree that it has gone on a decline imo since season 5
Easily the most contradictory show in terms of both time travel and the intelligence of characters.
Team Flash is a bunch of scientists with the emotional maturity less than that of middle schoolers.
“Starting to feel like power Rangers”
Brother this show has always felt like power rangers since the beginning, it was never good
Why is it worse?
Creatively bankrupped.
I liked season 5 just for Nora. She was hot.
Pov: you are a Marvel fan
the flash straight up sucks LMAOO. stop broski.
The flash sucks stop blaming things on marvel when it's not even about that
you forgot jesse quick and not to mention all the evil speedsters
It got bad. EZRA FLASH appeared and no one liked him because tv flash was awesome then the nose dive came along to close out just in time for the flash movie. If grant can't appear in 2 batmen I hope john wesley Shipp gets to cameo in the else world's finest movie labeled the flash
You are so right.
Lost interest after season 3 , got confused with what was actually going on, in the series, it started to make no sense. too many "Flash" Power characters making no sense. like the review why you explained what i was thinking, PLOT really got messy and stupid made no sense.
The Flash was always trash, even during the seasons that everybody touts as "Amazing" and "The best show they ever watched"
Once Eric Wallace touched this show it has been downhill like his concepts are great but the execution and whoever writing the episodes are straight trash
IMO Crisis on infinite earths should have been the end on the arrowverse.. this was the last time i felt excited about flash or arrow at all everything after just seems kinda meh
Ngl the CW shows were never good , we were just young
they turned the wokeness to 11, that's what happened xD
Most of the things you said weren’t potholes
The flash sucks cause of already bad villians, bad plot in many ways, boring charapers, ruined RF and didnt supported snowbarry. Thats it. If the show was from the orginal timeline barry it would've been better
The final season SUCKS so far. Honestly i dont blame the actors (execpt Iris), the fault comes all because the producers. The power rangers soap opera for gays gives them extra cash and we all know its all about money sadly.
I stopped watching midway through season 5 possibly before. It just lost my interest. It doesn’t sound as bad as later seasons but still bad compared to the first 2 seasons.
ReHydro, the answer is quite SIMPLE. There is an OBVIOUS reason why the Flash SUCKS !!! And it’s name is kenduce petone !!!!
the got broke
yeah this show turned into dogshit. Ofc it had its flaws in the early seasons but I enjoyed those seasons and they were actually entertaining. I honestly just watch it now to see what happens now and not because I enjoy it. Season 9 continues to be garbage so far at least. I mean who knows maybe the next episodes may redeem the season but I'm not hopeful. I've seen the set pictures and I'm glad that old characters are coming back but I'm sure they'll ruin it somehow
It's just poorly written... I mean characters don't grow. When they learn from their mistakes in the next episode they will do it again.. with the same ahaa result...
Even from comics, someone said, this concept of a hero with this kind of superpower such as speedforce is one of the richest if not the top for building stories, but this is just shit
niceee
Too many characters too much filler stories on the 2 many characters. CW teen love stories.
Season 5 6 7 8 and 9 were great not 4 thou
So we’re 1 3
And 2
WE ALL LOVE CHESTER AND EVERYTHING THAT SuCks TO YOU!!!!!
s1 and 2 were peak, 3 was good
to many uneeded characters
It was the prominence of leftism and then the George floyd bullshit that ruined this show. That’s the entire reason they “talk down” all the villains and give them a free pass. It was trash after that.
Season 1 and 2 are the only good seasons
The flash sucks since episode 1
I will always defend this show no matter what anyone says
Keep your thoughts to yourself
Even s 1 2 and 3 weren't that good there was a lot and i mean a lot of bull shit
U can watch ( the dumbest man alive s 1.2 and 3) u will understand
Don't even try to compare this garbage to the power rangers
the show always sucked lol
These are what thr filer should have been
lets me explain in short
sum people have money and hd camera and have black gay slaves and said hey lets make a homemade movie and call it the flash