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IS IT ACTUALLY A DECENT MOWER? JOHN DEERE 1025R TRACTOR LAWN MOWER 🤔
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2021
- Where does the time in the day go? Or the week? We're just too busy to keep up with our lawn like we want to, so we're switching from a reel mower to a John Deere 1025R with a 60" mower deck. How does it perform mowing a typical suburban lawn? And how do you operate this thing anyway? We'll cover all that in today's video. How well does a John Deere 1025r (or any subcompact tractor) mow a yard. Stay tuned.
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I bought a 1025r in 2013.... It now has 980 hours on it..... I used it to mow, maintain snow, install boulder walls and all the landscaping on a house project. Absolutely without a doubt, the best money I ever spent on anything. That said, this summer I had a opportunity to buy a used z930M Deere, and the cut speed and quality seems to be better from that unit.... But .... it's a 1 trick pony.... All it does is cut grass...Buck for Buck the 1025 is like a swiss army knife. It may not be perfect for everything, but it does a lot of things pretty darn well. With a little bit of a learning curve and sharp blades, the 1025 can do a very nice job of cutting, and the leaf collection systems are great too. All and all, a great and useful tool well worth the investment.
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Hey Courtney:
Bought my 1025R new 6 years ago and with the 54" deck its been my mower for my property. Works as well if not better than any other mower/rider/garden tractor I have ever owned. Wish I could have afforded it earlier. Would have made my life a heck of a lot easier! Thanks for sharing
I used to take my loader all the way off, but have just started taking the bucket off and keeping the arm on works good for me.
I’m 18, I just bought a 2020 1025R for my small landscape business! I pick it up Monday 3/20/22.
How's the business young fella?
I have a 1023e, it came with the mid mount mower, after one season of mowing I sold the mid mount deck and bought a 60” Pegasus finishing mower. For my situation it was a very good move and I can remove the mower attachment just as easily as the drive over mid mount. It is also a rear discharge so in dry or windy conditions I don’t have debris blowing back at me.
Recently bought my 1025R with the 54" deck. From an engineering perspective, JD got this one right. It truly is easy off-easy on and even going slowly and deliberately it takes less than 10 minutes. However, as a lawnmower, it has some serious shortcomings unless your lawn is very flat and wide-open. We have many flower beds and mature trees that are hard to work around given the limited turning capability. Also unless you go slow and make wide, gentle turns, even the best turf tires tend to tear up the lawn (even when completely dry). I ended up switching out the deck for a 48" zero-turn mower. The price point of the zero-turn versus the deck, 3rd function hydraulics, mulch kit, and Load 'n go ramps is comparable. Now I get a great cut with no lawn damage. The only downside is having to store another piece of equipment.
I love mowing with my 2025r. I’d rather mow with a tractor than A zero turn. I can mow and still do stuff around the yard with my tractor. With a zero turn it’ll just sit during the winter. Plus I can plow with my tractor, bush hog and do a lot more than a zero turn. Plus I’m 6”6 so the tractor is comfy to me. Definitely worth the money. Plus we take a loan for our tractor and is almost cheaper than a zero turn with payments. Plus I added attachments to the tractor with the payments. Definitely enjoy these types of tractors
I use our 1025R w 60in deck to mow. Drop the FEL takes 3 min. I use the versa tread and no problems. The drive on deck is easy to drop and maintenance w the Easy Lift. I only wish the deck rose 1in higher
Got my 2016 1025R without a mower deck. Got the 3 point hitch rotary mower for mowing trails in the woods. I have a Z930A zero turn for the lawn. I know it only does one thing but it does it so good. Thanks for sharing.
Love the VersaBracket. I purchased the Hitch Hangers and they work so amazingly well. Thanks Courtney for coming up with these great ideas. I always have something on my 3 point hitch that I need to use. A total game changer for me. Especially when I have a lot of load in my front bucket but then need to use the 3 point as well. It’s great having the 450 pounds on the side of my iMatch.
Thanks and great video! I almost purchased the X738, and you converted me up to 1025r and Im so glad; have had the 1025r 2 weeks now, and this video would have helped so much! Glad others will get a chance to use it; however all your other videos helped a lot as well. I will add... when reversing, hold the PTO override button forward, but you can release after starting to move backward. Also, ROPS up, but be careful of those low branches... can be dangerous the first time as well. Need about a 92 inch clearance.
I'm glad to hear it Mike. Have a great day!
I have a 2016 1025r with a 54 inch mower deck that I use to mow my yard. I am very happy with the way it works. I bought it new with the deck and loader. I also have a box blade for it that I use with the loader to do my snow plowing. It gets a work out year around. Wouldn't have anything else. Thanks for the videos my friend.
I have the 1026R with the 54" Auto Connect Deck and used it one season. I went back to my 445 and 54" deck as the cab on the 1026R would not let me trim under the trees as well as I could with the 445. Deck on the 1026R did a good job, my yard is just not as easy to use it on. It does take about 4-6 hours to mow the property all in one day, so a big job in my opinion.
Dang, that's a lot of grass!
@@GoodWorksTractors It is an old farm where 11 1/2 acres were carved out for us. I have a couple of fields I use the brush cutter on every couple of years, but the field in front, side and back of the house are mower with the 445 to keep the trees and brush from taking over. If I don't mow at least every 2-3 weeks, you can see new saplings growing. When we got the property, we planted over 150 Spruce and Red Pines for a wind brake and small forest so it takes time to mow around them. We are located almost 1/10 mile from the road and that makes for a large front yard with a lot of trees. About a 1/4 part of the land is a Cedar Swamp with good hunting for our family members.
I've been thinking about one of these. We have a 455, X748, F1145 and a 855. I think I've had the deck on the 855 once in the past ten years. The F1145 does the bulk of the mowing with all the trim work being done with the 455 and the lawns around the house done with the x748 as it has a bagger on it. We have about 5 acres of cottage style gardens and lawns and another 3 of Australian native gardens and we mow weekly all year round. The 855 is mainly used for placing mulch, small dump trailer work and tilling seasonal flower beds
Bought a 1023E in 2017 to mow with. It mows Great. Love how easy it is to remove to clean. Love it.
I use a kubota b2601. It mows great on flat lawn. But leaves uneven mower lines on hills. I learn to live with for the time it saves mowing 5 acres. Btw, I got my 2 inch bora spacers on. I had help from my brother. The process was so slick. But you were right. Those liquid filled tires are killer heavy.
I bought a 1023e and took mower attachment off my 1025r and put it on the 1023e and it mows fantastic
I always was worried about the rear quick hitch being too close to the ground so when I got the mower deck set to the level I wanted I simply used the three-point hitch lever to lower it until the mower deck hit the level I wanted and marked the 3-point hitch control so when I am mowing I put the lock lever in place that keeps the 3-point hitch from dropping down any further than necessary. Love your videos! Much better use of my time than watching TV would be!!!
GWT; I am watching your videos to learn about the 1025R. I am 75 years old, and have 12 acres of land. I have been using a X380 with the 10P cart for moving firewood, topsoil, and rocks. I haul all my tools with the 10P cart. I just purchased a 1025R and it will be delivered tomorrow. Got a D120 loader, and a 54 inch mower deck, and the versa turf tires. I have already ordered the heavy tooth bars, rear receiver hitch plate, 3in1 tow hitch, and the Speeco cat 1 quick hitch in the back. Plan to order the dethatcher to drag in the woods to make trails. I am a novice, so will a bit nervous with connecting and disconnecting the mower deck, and the loader. cant wait to see what you put on your 1025R for the leaves in the fall. Too old now to lift heavy rocks and wood! Thanks for all the information you give us in the videos!
Great video Courtney!. Always something informative on the videos, Keep up the good works . Have a great day guys and be safe!. Tim
Thanks as always Tim :)
owned a JD1026R since 2013. the drive over deck is great when it is set up properly. When not it is a bear. Many videos on setting it up correctly. The only modification I have done is to bypass the PTO reverse safety switch. I know you can just pull back on the knob, but I would always forget. It is the Swiss Army knife of compact tractors.
I like to think of my 1025r as a Leatherman/Swiss army knife.
It doesn't mow as easily as a zero turn but it's plenty good enough for most homeowners.
The loader isn't as good as a skid steer but it's still plenty good enough for most homeowners.
It isn't the best at anything, but it can do everything.
You get the point.
I use my 1023e as my mower. With many hardwood trees around the edges of my lawn I use gator blades in the fall to pulverize leaves. I have lessened my use of a pull lawn sweeper by running over the leaves several times. I’m not a big fan of getting on and off the machine if the sweeper jams or fails to empty correctly.
Good info, thank you for sharing!
I went with the gator blades. They reduced the material much better and return the nutrients to the soil.
@@billvandorn5332 I really haven’t used the sweeper much since I started using the gator blades. Great point about returning organic material to the lawn
Thanks for a great video! We have just brought a 17 acre property (near Adelaide in South Australia) and I will end up with about 7-9 acres of lawns to mow and I have been struggling to find a good video on how well these 1025R mow - but now I am satisfied it will do a good job! All I need to do is get approval from my CFO - I hope she is in a good mood 😀
Kioti CX2510 with 60” fabricated (not stamped) drive over deck.
Pros. Commercial grade fabricated deck. Quick and easy install and removal, and similar in cost, if not cheaper, to JD. Several cut height adjustments (by pin placement). Operator driven clutch PTO for soft implement engagement. No reverse cutout when operating PTO and backing up. Actual suspension seat standard.
Cons. Turning radius is not nearly as tight as smaller BX and 1 series JD’s. Tractor is heavier and will leave tire impressions in softer soils, especially when wet. Not as widely available as other brands.
It looks like a pretty good job was done. The 1025R would be ideal for anyone with other jobs in mind. Otherwise the 700 series has more than enough options.
And a reminder for viewers, please don't discharge grass clippings onto roadways. Automobiles don't care, but it could be deadly for a motorcyclist.
Also it looks like shit.
@@masonlynch1793 ??????you ok?
Great video. I love that you seem to find low branches only when mowing…. I was amazed that it was surprisingly nimble in tight spaces. More bang for your buck for sure.
I know your attorney requires you to stress safety (hence the repeated "read your manual"), but with all the low tree limbs and swing set that you have, that ROPS bar would find itself leaning against the wall in my garage. I cut commercially for 22 years and that's the first thing I did after I got my Ferris zero turn home. That thing had such a low center of gravity that it would slide sideways on slopes long before tipping over.
Awesome video! I bought a 1023e myself with a 54 inch deck I mow 3 acres an I absolutely love it!
I mow my yard with a kubota L2850. Love my tractor. It’s my first real tractor, still have my Murray as well.
I have a 2017 1025R and I use that to mow with all the time... I think for a sub compact utility tractor, it mows pretty good. Keep in mind it is a tractor, NOT a professional MOWING MACHINE. I also use the tractor many other things too, so it is very handy that I can drive over and take the mower deck on and off in a matter of seconds! Plus with taking the Mower Deck on and off so fast, it entices me to want to clean and maintain the mower deck too. I love using it to mow the ditches, on the very steep ditches I put it in low and 4x4 and it walks right up out of it. It is a great investment, probably the best one I have ever made.
I mow my lawn with a Kubota B2401. A zero turn is definitely a better option, but the versatility of the compact tractor is well worth it.
I have a 2018 1025r, and about 5 acres of lawn to mow. It’s probably not the best mower for the job, but it gets it done, and I can still move firewood, dirt etc. It does get tricky around trees and other obstacles and I have to go back with a push mower in those areas. I live in the country so I don’t need to have a perfectly manicured lawn.
Watching you fighting the trees along your tree line reminded me of every time I mow. I have 5 1/2 acres in Indiana. I mow with a zero turn and battle trees every time. My wife always ask why I have long sleeves on in July -- because I get murdered by low hanging trees :)
I’m in Indy as well. Been battling trees for a long time, too. One day I got fed up with it and took along my chainsaw mowing with me one day. Every time I got to a branch that was in the way, I stopped and cut it down. Smartest thing I have done in a while 😅
I have a Massey 1725, I am very happy with the mowing quality.
I mow with my 1025R. I bought it with turf tires because I planned to do mowing right from the start. I also was planning to do a lot of other jobs as well and the JD was by far the easiest to mount and dismount attachments. Also, I am not going to get a separate mower. As I am not taking care of a golf course or the queen's castle the quality of cut isn't critical. I cut about 3 acres between my yard and my mother-in-law who lives 1/4 mile down the road.
I noticed a lot of reviews on those tractors is when people cut with it they do the lines like a zero turn. Don’t do the lines. Outline your area and do the outside in a circular motion going inward and shoot the shavings outward. Save you a lot of backing up and going forward. That’s where zero turns have this beat but not everyone, like me, cares for the lines.
I have a ZTR mower for mowing my grass. I have mowed my lawn with a tractor and currently have a 3 point hitch mower as a back up for my ZTR and we have a fair amount of grass and sometime have my wife on the ZTR mower and me on the tractor. A mid mount mower makes mowing much easier with your tractor than the 3 point hitch mower. You can mow closer with the mid mount and don’t have to worry about that “rear swing”. It is easier to mow under low hanging branches and shrubs with the 3 point mower. My ZTR does do a little better job at cutting the grass (the finished look) than my 3 point hitch mower.
I had a 1025R, 2014, had a loader, backhoe, 54" mower deck. Tried mowing my 2 acres with it, wasn't near as fast mowing as my Z445 zero turn so i took off the mower deck and never used it again.
Jared Haase if you got all open areas you'd be fine. But if you got trees shrubs, etc a zero turn with a 60" deck is faster if you're keeping up with the mowing and not letting it get to tall. The 1025r goes thru heavier grass than most zero turns better. When I got my zero turn I was finished mowing on 2 acres 1 hr 45 min and a riding mower w a 54" deck took almost 2.5 hrs. I've got a Country Clipper w 52" deck made in Iowa. Steers with a joystick, 1 hand. Plus if you got a tractor like the 1025r you'll have to keep your trees trimmed taller to get in close to the base of the trees as you'll be sitting up taller. Zero turns also help in cutting down on your weedeating time, which being 65 , heart patient I can't do alot of physical work.
If you have an auto-connect deck, check the stop bolt that sets the height of the PTO coupler the first time you take it off. There are two nuts that that clamp on the coupler that set the height to mate to the gearbox of the deck. One of the nuts vibrated off, and the bolt fell out. When I went to remove the deck, the coupler swung fully down and tore the the spring loaded lock lever (silver bar) off of the deck as I backed up to remove it. It was in 2018, my dealer gave me a replacement under warranty. They said I wasn't the only one with that problem, the design seems flimsy, but I added Loctite to the new assembly and it's been fine since then.
Man that tractor has seen better days, i noticed the dash has a yellow-ish color like it's been sitting outside for a while. About the hydraulic lift option for the mower, you can get it as an independant 3rd mid-mount scv or use the loader scv already installed. there's kit for both but it depends on the year of the tractor, if it's tlb, cab or no cab etc so it's easy to order the wrong kit if you're not buying from a dealer.
Haha yeah but still mowed just fine!
I bought a 1025R new in 2015 and I now have 357.4 hours on it. I had a worthless Cub Cadet 46" mower and when I found out about the 60" MMM I got rid of the Cub ASAP. The Cub was probably the worst mechanical thing I've ever purchased. The MMM and 1025R are a great combination for me. I cut about 10 acres of which maybe 3 is "lawn" and I use the MMM. It is a wonderful piece of equipment and works well. I added the "load and go" ramps to mine and now it's amazing how fast I can do blade or other maintenance to it. My Frontier 48" rotary cutter works just as well on the other fields with constant volunteer trees and larger foliage growing up. My only complaint with the 1025R is the location of the light switch and the key. Whenever I turn around to hook up any rear attachment my knees hit these and I have bent my key where it won't come out and have mispositioned the light switch. Minor issues for such a great tractor.
If you watch your deck go down it hits a stop about a 1/4 down on the height adjustment so you don’t have to run your 3 point arms down all the way. Saves your grass and anything you might back into like sidewalks and stuff like that. I’ve owned a 1025r, 4320, 3038e, 2025r and the last one I just picked up and I’m absolutely in love with is my 2038r.
Yeah, I just don't have to worry about it on my yard. Good point though!! Thanks for watching!
Some people seem to give these machines a bad review when it comes to mowing with them.Its all about understanding your deck and making sure your blades are not bent.And if you have a wavy yard or humps and bumps everywhere no mower is going to cut that very well.The only complaint I have about mine is it seems like its going to shake itself apart upon startup or at idle.Its ridiculous how this thing shakes.
The hydraulic lift kit is LVB26205 but also requires SCV line kit LVB26206 or independent valve kit LVB26207. You Al's have to have the deck linkage kit LVB26203. I really like having the separate control, having the 3 point up and out of the way backing I'm sure has saved a tree or two and my tractor! Along with my pride.
The load and go makes handling the mower deck easy when it is off of the tractor
Iam thinking about buying a 955 for mowing my lawn and making hay, so thats a good question to be answered for me!:)
I realize your channel is good works tractors, but a Kubota dealer pointed out to me when I was first starting to look at Kubota and John Deere subcompact and compact tractors that for what you're paying with these auto decks, you would come really close to buying a used or new lowering zero turn radius mower and you're going to get done a lot faster and most likely have a better cut. I think it would be fun to see a comparison between the two on your yard. I've seen some comparisons and it looks like the zero turn gets the job done about 40% faster, but I wasn't sure if they were stacking the deck. No pun intended! Lol lol
Haha, well I think that depends on the type of zero turn you are buying. The Toro TimeCutter 42" I had years and years ago had an engine failure at around 250 hours. It was basically a throw away. I make that point to say that I would want to invest in a more costly zero turn that wasn't a big box store model which would take much longer to get payback. Plus, with a tractor, you only have one engine to maintain, less storage space, etc. However, I could make a strong case for and against it. I'm just playing one side of the coin right now.
I was moving pretty good on this 1025r and really any tractor I've mowed with in the past. I've mowed this yard with zero turns, garden tractors, subcompacts, and fairway mowers. I would guess I have less than a 10-15% in time difference from the slowest to fastest mow.
The zero turn or fairway mowers are one trick ponies. Where subcompact or compact tractors can do many more things than just mow (depending on how many attachments you have).
I had a X720 and a 1025R. I liked the X7 better for mowing. Mostly bec it rode smoother. But everything else the 1025R was superior at.
ONce I took over my pasture 4 acres from blackberries I bought my 1023 with the 54" This was not smooth by any means which is why I did not do the 60 to avoid digging in on either side. This was SW Washington so the ground can be soft and over time tire indentations appeared. No big deal but on a manicured lawn wheel tracks over time are possible
Looks like it does a real nice job thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
My Grandpa just recently bought a brand new '21 X738. Originally he was gonna go with an X730 because he was coming from a '95 445 and had always had 2wd. I talked him into the 4x4 for the winter (Were up by Lansing). I wish we would've done a bit more research cuz I think the 1025r would've been the best buy. Granted he has just under an acre so even the X738 is overkill, but with how close they are in price you may as well go for the sub compact. With a 54in deck and 47in 2 stage blower he was at $17,000 for the X738. On another note, really appreciate all these informative videos, and since Kalamazoo is pretty close, you'll be my first stop if my 445 ever gets to be not enough tractor.
I had thought about getting a 1025r with a mower - but the cost of the mower attachment plus the pain of taking it on and off between projects makes it make no sense. Can easily pick up a ride on mower for a similar price of just this deck that won't be putting several thousand pounds of weight all over your lawn - definitely a concern if you have a septic system. If you have storage limitations then it makes sense, or if you are just wary of not wanting to maintain 2 machines, but outside of that I think these decks rarely make sense.
I bought my 1025r a few months ago and i love it i have an independent hydraulics for my mowing deck and I love that feature. I havent had it for long i have alot to learn yet but i love the machine
how much extra cash did the independent hydraulics cost?
@@marvinjackson2641 it came with it si idk what the cost was the dealer pit thst in for free i think be ause they had alot of problems getting the machine to me
Absolutely should. We have 120 acres we farm we use our 3520 more than our JD 6300. It mowes the lawn, take off 72" deck and it tedds, rakes, square bales, pop the loader on and moves round bales. 6300 cuts and round bales. Best investment we ever made and hydrostatic transmission is a must for our work. Never an issue with heat or anything else. Then we use the 3520 to plow snow in winter. 3400 hrs on it, 7400 hrs on the 6300. Green or it don't come home.
More like Green, you can take it home but you don’t own it!
got my 1026r(european model) new one year ago with the 60 inch deck and indipendent hydraulic lift. The lift is incredibly handy because the deck lifts real easy and fast. But it's not all perfect, because the lift cilinder is one way (it only lifts, then the weight of the deck and gravity pull it down when you use the scv), it takes up one scv and every once in a while you gotta lift it up (in transport) because the cilinder eventually droops down. It also does not have a "Travel position" but it still has a ll the diffrent positions fot cut height.
Hey Courtney, 100K subs within arms reach!! Congratulations!
every things beautiful and god bless you and protect you from the strangers ❤
A few years back I had purchased a 72” mower deck for my John Deere 2720. In a straight line I could cut through a lot of grass. However, I lost all the time saving when it came to turns, tight spots, mowing the perimeter, and obstacles. Also, the weight of the machine compacted the soil, grass, and put ruts in the lawn if the soil was wet. Tree limbs also become problematic since the 2 series sits so high.
I sold the 2720 and bought a 2038R and Z950M with mulch-on-demand. A zero turn mower is leaps and bounds more efficient and the cut quality is noticeably better. Also, the hassle of not having to remove, store, and reattach the deck on a tractor is well worth the extra $ to have a dedicated zero turn mower.
Before seeing this comment I literally just commented a very similar comment about turning circle and smoothness of a 1 series over the 4ws of the X series machines such as the 324 I’ve had for 15 years now and this is the sole reason I’ll be buying an X754 over a 1023e mid year this year due to the turning circle and no option for 4ws once you go any bigger then an X700
For that size yard and shape a Zero turn mower would be almost ideal, but then you would also need something for snow removal. So for me a 1025R is a good alternative. Much better than a 20" walk behind/push mower. LOL Try using a 20" walk behind/push mower to mow 3.5 acres it takes me close to 7 to 10 days depending on the weather and how sore I am the next day. LOL Why do I not use a tractor? I would use the tractor my nephew left me, but the darn thing does not keep the battery charged, and I just put a new battery in it. I might not be running it at full throttle. The hood fell off when I went to change the battery. LOL Yup it is a piece of junk. I do not have the money to get a New Tractor or believe me I Would!!! LOL
Great Video as always! Looking forward to the next one!
I like the music, makes me feel like I’m watching a western. 💪🏽
I have a 2021 X738 with the 60HC auto connect deck and a 54 inch snow blower. My thinking (and research) at the time of purchase was that if the tractor's primary job will be mowing then I should go with the X7series but if the tractor's primary job was other stuff (ie loader, backhoe, etc.) then I should go with the 1025R. Do you disagree? Those 1025s sure look versatile.
In reference to the comment made at 17:00, that may be the case but there’s no option of 4ws after you leave the X series and go up to a 1 series or bigger and that’s such a critical thing for mowing in tighter more confined spaces over 2ws and as someone who has owned an X324 for 15 years with 4ws it’s going backwards going back to a 2ws system especially when it’s a much bigger machine so my next machine will be an X754 sometime this year maybe mid year sometime maybe
Late to chime in but I am having a bit of conversion from zero turn to a air conditioned cab compact tractor with a 3pt finish or flail mower. it might take me x2 as long and might not be as smooth, but I will be a lot more comfortable and away from poison ivy and thorny bushes.
I've had a x380 and now the 1025r with 60D mid mower and never have I had a cut that even.
Stopped in to look at the 1 series today... left with a 3046R. lol
Don't have a mower deck for my 1025r but it looks like it does a decent job. Great video.
Seems to be 2 schools of thought on this issue. Guess it's just a matter of opinion; that and what your land is like. I am one of those that mows with the 1025R. Perhaps I am lazy but I would rather just have one machine to maintain and change oil, hydraulic fluid etc. I run it year round. If you feel differently that's cool.
As far as advice to a novice with this tractor goes, when I set the mower deck level I slowly lower the rocker arm watching the deck. When it stops moving I set the stop on the 3 point rocker arm control so it cannot go any lower. This stops my 3-pt arms with quick hitch from digging in on low spots when backing up.
I bought a Kubota B2601 in early 2020, and got the belly mower to go with it, figuring it would be good for large, unobstructed level areas and a small zero-turn mower would deal with various tight spaces, hillsides, and lawn-like areas.
In practice... well, had I known then what I know now (including a large expansion of the yard), I would have gone for a one-size-larger zero-turn and most likely a compact flail mower instead of the belly mower (maybe also a size-larger tractor without the mid PTO). The reality is that I do nearly all the mowing with the zero-turn, and a side-discharge rotary mower is not the right tool for dealing with tall stuff, especially Johnson grass; when I want to add a new walking path, the sensible approach is to wait until the hay guy comes through and then, while the grass is short, start maintaining the new path.
Then there's the nuisance of the mower deck and any 3-point attachment being pretty much mutually exclusive, leading to more reconfiguration operations than I'd like, and the dismounted mower deck needing to be stored somewhere flat when flat surfaces are in short supply here.
The other coming-this-winter complication is that the B2601's mower deck isn't really meant to work with wheel spacers, so when I finally get around to widening the tractor's footprint I'll have to do something about the rear anti-scalp rollers.
Overall, I'd say that for my situation the mower deck wasn't the right answer. For other people, it might well be.
I don't know if you remember me sending you those pictures a while ago about the tire burning for those R14 tires work great
I've had my 1025R for about eighteen months now and the mower deck failed recently and it's already out of warranty. What they don't tell you is that the deck only has a one year warranty and in my case the rivets that hold the belt tensioner failed, and John Deere doesn't stand behind their own defects. I've spent over a thousand bucks so far on deck issues at Heritage Tractor and I'm about as far from a happy customer as one can get. I'd definitely recommend looking at other options before I'd but a John Deere anything.
As far as the PTO turning off when going in reverse that was the most annoying thing ever drives you crazy after a while but I fixed that problem with a 3 cent zip tie! Was just as bad when snowblowing too! Your a honest salesman which is really nice but the zip tie way is DEFINITELY the way to go!!
I find the mower shutting off when reversing VERY annoying too. With our old Husqvarna there was a specific position you could put the key in to enable mowing in reverse. Having to press a button each and every time I want to back up is frustrating.
Could you share your technique for enabling mowing in reverse using a ziptie?
yea I did the same thing 👍
@@jamescochran8509 Please share how you enabled mowing in reverse without having to press the PTO button every time you back up.
@@Slider68 there is a dowel pin switch under right side of seat ,when you push r pedal pin extends out, put zip tie around top of switch to keep dowel pin compressed. you didn’t here this from me.
Great vid with real use of a sub compact tractor with a mower deck. Looks like it did pretty well. Coming from someone that has a 97’ 345 John Deere. will be in the market for a 2038r in the near future.
great job as always.. I always look forward to watching your videos.
I now do most of my mowing with a 2520/62D2 deck; it does as nice a mowing job as my X748/54C setup did. But, it's about 30 minutes faster for the 5-1/2 acres I mow.
Well actions speak louder than words, I watched your mowing and your battle getting around the trees and big bushes. For the most part your place is wide open. I have a bunch of trees and so it slowes me down with the rops up. I find my zero turn mows almost at twice the speed of the tractor. The zero turn costs less than the belly mount mower.
The cost is biggest reason why I would by a zero turn and only get appropriate sized tractor if I needed it. At 3 acres I just don’t see trying to mow with a sub compact. A good entry level pro model zero turn can be had for around 5k new. Bit more than a mower deck, but faster and can leave the tractor for tractor stuff
We've been "planning" to buy a subcompact tractor for many years. 3 months ago our 15 year old lawn tractor's engine punched a hole in its block (actually the block somehow split in two along the parting line; apparently a common issue with twin cylinder 26hp Briggs and Stratton engines) and the hot oil hitting the exhaust quickly caught on fire. The lawn tractor was quickly destroyed as a result and we decided to replace it with a ~54" zero turn mower.
We never intended to mow with a subcompact tractor but couldn't find a decent zero turn so we moved up our plans on the subcompact and also bought an inexpensive used 54" mower deck for our "new to us" 1025R TLB.
The 1025R mows roughly as well as the old lawn tractor. The main différences are:
- The 1025R provides and extremely smooth, isolated, comfortable ride compared to the lawn tractor.
- The lack of a front center anti-scalping wheel/roller on the 1025R is annoying in some areas and results in the mower blades cutting right down to the ground in some areas. Some of our lawn has a curve to it, such as along the edge of our driveway, so I really need to find a way to weld on or bolt on a front center anti-scalping roller.
- Another frustrating issue with the 1025R is every time I want to back up while mowing, I have to press a button to keep the mower on. With the Husqvarna there was a special key position that allowed mowing in reverse without issue.
- Overall the 1025R does a good job mowing our ~3 acres. Both it and the lawn tractor took between 4 and 6 hours to get it all done. Both had/have about the same HP (25hp or 26hp) and both bog down in very tall thick grass. The lawn is in littered with elevation changes, trees, bushes, low hanging branches, etc so it takes a long time to mow well.
Our plan is to eventually buy a zero turn but for now we're happy enough with the 1025R.
Right now my main focus is buying subcompact accessories like a grapple, 3rd (and possibly 4th for a rear) function hydraulic, add on tow/lift hooks, bucket cutting edge, rear tow bar or 2" receiver, rear blade with power tilt, offset rear mower, etc....
Tractor time with Tim shows installation of a mid front guide wheel for a mower on a 1025r. Check it out
Always great info. If you are in low or high you always run the rpm to the pto symbol on the dash? Your videos are always very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to make them.
Don't have to hold the pto reverse...just engage it then hit the reverse pedal and you can let go. It'll run mid pto until you let off reverse then try reverse again.
That is correct
Hi, I am new in the market shopping for a versatile, small tractor and I found your channel. Thank you! I’m looking to use this tractor for both mowing my Bermuda yard at my house and then trembling down onto my pasture property for mowing. Your yard looks really nice and so my question is can I do a good job with mowing on my fairly flat Bermuda yard with a 54 inch deck and a following question is do I need the turf tires or can I get by on my yard with the industrial tires without much damage to my ground? It looks like you’re doing pretty well on the industrial tires. Thank you so much.
I have owned my 1025r for about a year now, I would have rather purchased a cheaper zero turn rather than the deck, I have a decent amount to mow, but lots of places that I can’t easily get to with the tractor. Plus the convenience of having a separate machine to use two different ones at the same time
Makes sense for you, thanks for watching!
In the early eighties I started off with a Craftsman 42" tractor man was I stylin. Would maintain about a half acre in those days of a 7.5 acre property. Then in 2007 graduated to a Kubota 54" WOW what a big jump up. The Zero turn is absolutely amazing if you have may trees to trim around. This zero turn was designed to mow grass at up to 9 miles per hour as was shown on a TV commercial years ago. In grass cutting terms that is like flying at fighter jet speed while cutting. I pull a grass catching Vacuum trailer behind the zero turn. It is pinned on solid so the whole trailer swings on castor wheels so I can swing around trees. It is called a cyclone rake. I recommend you do your research to see what best suits your needs. Today I have a Kubota F3990 that cuts 7 acres in 2.5 hours with seat belt on and flying. Zero Turn mowers are as much as 50% faster at cutting than a conventional tractor. As the John Deere site says " it isn,t just how fast you mow, it,s how well you mow fast"
Awesome video. 🚜🚜🚜
I mean I mow my 4+ acres with a Kioti CK3510SE with a rear finish mower. Would a big zero turn be faster? Yes, but I don't see why not use the tractor for mowing. Compared to my old wheel horse (which i still use time to time), I mow with a lot less gas and with Pat's quick hitch I have the mower deck on and off in 5 minutes changing implements. I really like the rear mount although it takes a bit getting used to coming from the mid mount.
Ever since mowing season started this year I've been struggling to decide whether to invest in the drive-over deck or just buy a ZT. I feel like my 2025r may be pushing the limits size-wise on a lawn with lots of obstacles, and I'm wondering if it would be wise to risk damaging or wearing out such a useful machine by using it as a mediocre mower at best, and rendering $10k+ of implements unusable. Plus I can get a decent ZT for only about 30% more than the cost of the drive over-deck. They're not joking about that green paint being expensive! lol
I would use it for stumps and trenching I could really use one!
Your awesome man, great job and content.
I bought a 1025r 4 years ago along with the mower deck. I don’t like it. After nearly five years, I’m going to try sell the mower deck and buy myself a separate mower ride on cause I am done with dealing with the frustration of getting the mower deck on. I’ve done everything to try to make it easier to attach it, plus even had a John Deere guy who specializes in them to come help me. If the attachment isn’t perfectly aligned, level, it’s a pain in the you know what to get it on. There’s nothing easy or quick about this attachment.
The Pros: Once you get it on, it cuts great. But unfortunately for me the cons outweigh the pros. Not user friendly.
I’ve checked out reviews on RUclips and it seems to be the biggest complaint. So I know I’m not the only one with the problem.
And as far as lawn damage from tire the turf tire is definitely the best for your lawn the R4's are not bad but is it's even slightly wet the R4'S can for sure rough things up a little as well as leave marks especially when turning! Turf tires don't.
I think that does a great job. Comparable to the toro x master I’ve always used, at least to me.
Boy you don’t let grass grow under your feet lol
Absolutely!!
Hint: There’s no reason to have the three point hitch all the way down especially if you have something like the Versa Hitch installed. Before mowing slowly lower your mower deck until it stops then push the three point hitch control just a small bit further then adjust your stop lever so that’s as far as it will go each time you raise then lower your deck. This way your three point hitch arms are never lower than they need to be.
2019 1025R with a 60” auto-connect deck and it’s the best lawn mower I’ve ever had. High range full speed and it still mows great.
I mow with my ROPS down because of some tree limbs. Those front wheels come off the ground in a hurry before you know what's happening.😮
I hear ya!!
I just got a 1023e TLB, my first tractor this year. It's been great for all the projects I have and didn't know I would have, haha! I mow with an old JD SST16 that has about 600 hours on it. It's a dangerous machine and they probably stopped making it for a reason. It's a zero turn but has the typical tractor form factor. I live in PA and it is quite hilly. If you are on the right angle the front of it will drift down hill since there is no mechanical linkage between the front wheels and the steering wheel. When it dies I've got to decide on a deck for the 1023e or a separate JD mower. How does the 1023/1025 do mowing on hills?
Been mowing a couple acres with my 1025 all summer with a 60 inch deck. It has saved me so much time.
Courtney, any plan to test the 1025 with a leaf bagger? I have been looking at the Cyclone Rake but can't seem to pull the trigger.
Hi Courtney, wheel spacers on a 1025r are they 1.5” max because of the mmm? If I get a 54” deck can I get wider spacers? Thanks. Keep up the great videos.
If you actually need to use the attachments then the 1025 is the way to go but the x700 series mows, plows and blows much better.
Good Lookin Stripes!!
Not too bad!