Great response to the first video. It’s obvious that some lawyers must of gotten involved on the first one and you responded the right way. No names were mentioned and let everyone use their own imagination. Keep Speaking the truth
Another insightful video jimbo , hopefully it might stop some of the RUclips detailers who have been sniping at your previous video. Stick to your beliefs and principles, I look forward to your roll out of products in 2024 🇬🇧
Absolutely love the way you handled this and the comments you made! What is "real world" when non control variables are ever changing.. A torture test thus should be more harsh than "real world"... if a spray product outlast a traditional "Ceramic Coating" wouldn't that show something.... haha I received the coating myself for free to try. I am not even going to bother as the prep of the vehicle will take more time to do than the amount of time the coating will last.. Excited for your products to launch!
Great video my friend. I will agree with the “clogging” possibility though. I’ve experienced it with my own cars. Lower panels, and the rear hatch wouldn’t bead water after a few weeks of daily driving even after I washed them with the ph neutral soap. I then sprayed them with an acidic water spot remover, ph2, washed the areas again with ph neutral soap and every bit of the non beading areas came back to original beading….no toppers ever used.
@@autodetailingpodcast looks great my friend and you got me with the no streaking you are correct see you and shine does streak. What is a durability how many months do you think? And also the most important question is this UV protection?
@@KiloKazeI wouldn’t be surprised. The Armour Wheel Coating has taken a beating on my wheels but also shower mirror I put it on to test. No degradation. One application of Adam’s Wheel and Tire did not phase it on the mirror.
I come away with same conclusion so I’ll just say it: there are only so many formulations of chemical solvent coatings. What may set one coating apart from another is what percent of actual chemicals contained within. Would it shock me that a few lines of coatings are made by the same manufacturer? Absolutely! Cost deviation between products and product lines and percentage of actual chemicals that make a coating perform ok / good / great drives the cost? Keep up the great work Only other thing I can think of is conduct a search of companies who produce solvent based car / wheel coatings and see if patents have been applied for and look at MSDS sheets 🤙🏽
Thanks! There are a just a handful of worldwide companies that make specific raw materials that are the main drivers in the coatings. They hold trademarks on those raw materials.
You hit the nail on the head when you said “ after applying this much time into the vehicle, you would want a product to last “ is pure facts… nothing is worse then spending hours upon hours on a vehicle to be let down by a product you should supposedly trust
At this point being a beginner I almost think it’s easier to just apply a spray and wipe ceramic maybe 3 or 4 times a year and be done with it. It seems to be durable and provide adequate protection, and only takes 15 min. And it doesn’t need to have a polish before it can be applied
i think youre on to something for sure. I personally like the extra protection of a ceramic then top it often with a spray, but I could be going overboard.
@@autodetailingpodcast as a professional not knowing what the customer will do I think a true coating would be better assurance for yourself. For a diy that takes care of their own vehicle I could see a spray working. You see the vehicle everyday and can see when things start to fade
You’re pretty much correct, though I don’t think many sprays really last months and months at peak behavior. I use a coating because I find the repellency just a level above spray sealants. There’s quite an argument to be made that CanCoat is one of the best value products out there if you can use the entire bottle.
F the people who top coating.... if you had to top a coating why not just use a sealant instead of a ceramic coating?? I like these test keep it up jimo all these so call them self professional detailers telling people you definitely needs to use a top on your ceramic coating to keep it going so BS then the ceramic coating not doing its job now
Glass bottle ceramic coatings,the perception is that they should last longer than Spray coatings. Ceramic coatings in glass bottles that last less then Spray coatings with the extra work, I’m on the fence with that one.
please continue to do these!!! I make my decisions based off your videos on what to get and what NOT to!! Thanks dude!! Can you try other brands for ceramic coatings? Gyeon, meguiars, carpro, and more?
Wow; Your garage floor tiles are amazing!! Do you happen to know what brand, make or model or any info on those floor tiles?? Thank you in advance and Awesome Vids btw!
Great job. I have been using a mix and match procedure with some products and i finally got that right combo. I do my car now every 2yrs. Just did it recently. The main product i have stuck with after claying is HD speed mixed with 3D. Then ceramic sealants.
I think clogging is the wrong word. What I’ve seen happen is customers fail to wash their cars regularly and they allow contaminants and minerals to bond to their paint covering the coating. I use an acidic wash, CarPro Descale, to remove the minerals sitting on top of the paint. That usually brings the coating back. I have seen coatings fail but that’s when someone just doesn’t maintain their vehicle at all and I mean not washing their car at all despite being warned that it could reduce the life of the coating.
I would like to see how these coatings and waxes hold up to products you're actually supposed to use on painted surfaces, like various acidic and alkali snow foams and car wash soaps
Im with you, I think I need to incorporate those into the test. A lot of people dont realize that high pH soaps and high pH wheel cleaners are similar.
@@autodetailingpodcast Other products like iron removers, bug and tar removers, etc, that can degrade waxes, sealants and coatings would be great to test as well. Until recently I'd primarily used traditional waxes (Turtle Wax's Pro Graphene line most recently, which I LOVE), and they wouldn't hold up to more than a couple applications of an iron remover. I've got Cerakote's glass bottle ceramic coating that I was going to apply to the car after doing paint correction in the spring, but after all the negative buzz I think I'm just going to paint correct and apply it to my hood and see how that goes first. I have to wax my hood about twice as often as the rest of the car so it'll be a good test medium
@@autodetailingpodcast With a Clean Maker topper every 2 to 3 weeks I can get 4 to 6 months out of the Turtle Wax Ceramic Graphene Paste wax. No chemical resistance though, lol
I think the most important thing is you know its limits and TW isnt claiming durability really with that product, but gloss is #1 i think. @@DanielReyes-hz1qk
It think the argument that chemical resistance tests are meaningless is completely unfounded. I live in Michigan where we get salt and beet juice half the year and big guts and bird bombs the other half. I need to know that I can use a low ph to get of minerals and high ph to get off grime. If I can’t use those types of products without stripping the coating I’m lost at what to do really. Contact washing only does so much.
I'm in Rochester Hills / Shelby Twp, and I keep going back to Optimum Gloss Coat. Too many times I thought it was dead, only to clay the car in preparation for polishing and re-coating to find an intact coating. It's not the prettiest, but it works for me. It's the only ceramic I offer.
Was it the new Cerakote ceramic coating? Is that what you took down? Lots of folks noticing after the first wash no more water beading, only sheeting. That’s BS! Cerakote fooled us, damn.
They didn’t like the vid. Thought I had a financial interest in talking bad about it. I worried about getting attorneys involved so I took it down. Turns out the torture test are more accurate than people think.
food for thought, since actual ceramic coatings are supposed to chemically bond with the paint, they shouldnt fail at all. maybe wear down over the years, but should never fail. of course thats if we are to trust what the manufacturers tell us.
You’re 100% right. From that we can assume some coatings don’t actually bond to the paint, which is why we get premature (according to their claims) failure
Loved the video, very interested in products when they come to market. I like changing it up with my washes like using the spray wax on top of wipe on ceramic spray or the ceramic coating. Thanks again.
@@autodetailingpodcast is the coating on the right panel something that comes in glass bottles like gyeon mohs? I just finished watching your spray on torture test and was impressed with your spray on ceramic spray. I've dumped meguiars since another big channel showed how bad it was and some of your torture tests confirm what I've seen. Would your spray be compatible as a topper for the new more robust coating or is that not recommended?
Thought there was nothing wrong with the last video. The coating on the right was getting the same treatment and was doing fine. Just a bunch of whiners out there. If the previous coating was good it would have withstood the torture. Another good video although I don't think it was really necessary like I said above. The other coating took the torture with no problems.
Okay, so a couple of questions: What was involved in "curing" the hood? Did you "park" it outside where a lot of cars spend most of their time? Or did it sit inside the garage? The comment about 'real world' is vaild, but cannot be dismissed simply based on geography. Obviously results in the northeast would be different than in southwest. But applying the coatings and giving them exposure to the environment is 'real world' testing.
I agree but everyone’s “real world” is different. Some are garaged, some are not. Some are in the north some in the south…which one do you pick to be the winner of the “real world”?
great video! i used chem guys " Clean Slate" that broke down all the non prof. coatings i had on my truck . you should try that stuff on your next test. just saying. awesome test!!!! thanks. i used cerakote a few weeks ago. waiting to see how it works. " truck got caught in the rain then i put it in the garage. i just knew it would have water spots on it the next day. nothing. looked like i just washed it! it was perfect. so far so good!
Great video and valid points for real 💪. Spending time in prepping a car to coat you want something that’s durable. We still want to know what’s on the far right 🤣🤣
Please test some coating against some that has a topper’s applied, topping to me should be a interim solution to a failing coating until it can be reapplied.
6:00. Exactly, who has the “real world.” Eg is something good for 5 years? Dunno, come back in 5 years. Accelerated wear tests only approximate the “real” world. The testing like this video achieves consistency to allow us to make informed decisions. Thank you for running the tests
Clog is been said to require more than 1 step of wash or prewash then again what was the ratio of those used. Iron remove sounds a bit weird since they are tiny particles as proven by the color change ability. Is ironic though that the iron gets stuck on a coat that is meant to have high slick and low friction performance.. What i would had add as a stress test would had been IPA, Tar&Glue, screen wash wiper alcohol based or sap remover.
@@autodetailingpodcast gyeon mohs evo , gtechniq csl are 2 of the biggest load of garbage ive ever used . Real world results are shocking yet many make out there a game changer 💩
All I can say is I feel like I may have been duped into the cerakote coating. I haven’t installed it yet and I am a little apprehensive. I like detailing so maybe o give it a try. I have a few months before the weather gets good enough to try it. Worse case scenario is it fails, I get a refund, and I install what I originally had planned on. All valid points Jimbo!
I would say to still install it, its easy to do and you can always top it for the time being if it starts to not bead water. just dont have high expectations. haha
@@brooklynpratt mentioned jimbo having an agenda because he’s launching his own products and saying he can get sued for that, even though the cerakote product is pretty terrible
its a lazy argument from Pan and others Like Yvan as well, both are known to do the same exact thing. Unlike them, ive consulted for the biggest brands and worked directly with blenders (they get interviews but never the access). Never wanting to have my own brand before, im doing it now not as a money play, but rather im frustrated by brands that decided to release subpar products for no reason. Cerakote being a prime example. So, im going to release products the way I want and show people how good of products they can actually get their hands on. @@mr.detail6527
@@mr.detail6527 thanks - which video of Pan's are we talking about? He's got two regarding Cerakote - one at almost 56 minutes long and another at way over an hour. Way too long for me to give him my interest but I am curious.
I think you may have upset a few in the detailing world with the last video jimbo ! The main thing in my opinion is that the ceramic coating works and after it has it's normal wash it still beads and repels water and if it does then i would apply a top up spay simply to get a better shine and and to look more glossy . My own car i have carpro cquart 3 and i use carpro reload afterwards and it does really enhance the shine and look . I am yet to use the one in your video but i will in the new year and hopefully get some great results as back here in the UK it pisses it down nearly every week lol .
Let’s face it most good cleaners for winter wash’s need a bit higher ph the glass bottle coating’s should be able to take a few good hits even a touch less tunnel washes have a high ph. In my world it has to take that hit a bunch of times.
Sure wish these products were available now. Polishing my car next week and looking for a durable spray or wipe coating. Anything you could recommend in the meantime?
Everyone hawking alkaline snow foams but thinks this isn’t a valid test. 😂. It’s accelerated, that’s all. Especially for wheel coatings. Can’t pimp Brake Buster, GS, or any other alkaline wheel cleaner / APC every video and expect people to not use them. I don’t use alkaline chemicals on coated cars except in rare cases. CarPro Reset and an acid wash are enough for 99% of maintenance washes.
@@autodetailingpodcast ohh, they are new products in development , I thought they are existing commercial ones like TW hybrid spray . Best of luck for your new products :)
I'm totally confused. Can you briefly explain what is going on? From the comments, it appears you tested a cerakote product that performed poorly, and had to delete the video because of threats from the company. But why all the secrecy around the products used in this test?
ive been selling it private label for the past 4 years and I dont disclose my clients. But, ill be bringing it under my own brand in Jan/Feb - AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo if you want more info.
@@autodetailingpodcast Thank you for the response. Just a bit confused, but I thought the unreleased coating was the one next to the far right. Are they both unreleased?
Not so much to do with the video, but a lot of people say water beading doesn’t mean protection has failed if the panel stops beading or sheeting, so how can it protect against the outdoor dirts etc if it can’t repel water? Genuine question what I don’t understand.
that is right sometimes, but honestly if the water beading is gone you can be sure that the protection isnt far behind. The water beading going away is usually the first way to tell the protection is starting to fail. It is possible for the protection to still be on the surface and the water not be beading water. But how you tell how much and if the protection is still there is extremely hard to tell, if not impossible, hence why we all use water beading and behavior as a sign of if the protectant is there or not.
Your results are real world and totally duplicate my results. I actually called the manufacturer to find out what pH range is protected by their coating and the tech team told 6 to 7. That's why I apply the coatings I do for my clients which protects pH 1 to 15. Which coating in your experience actually has a 5 yr plus durability?
so just to be clear - you applied Cerakote and it didn't last? Asking because people are quick to hate on the torture test, but as I think you point out, they are more realistic than people think.
@@autodetailingpodcastHi, my point was that what I am seeing is a low beading finish compared to the six coatings that I use. In a matter of four weeks of real world washings it is night and day compared to my coatings. It is still slick and actually is a sheeter but it just doesn't compare to products I use. Now that I know the P H limitations I brief people that the product is designed for people who wash their vehicles at home with a pH neutral soap. It is not designed for tunnel car washes that use high pH soaps. So, for me it is a good topper or for clients who don't want to pay for the professional level coatings. I'll will watch these cars since they are each on a qtrly wash maintenance plan. I also coated half of my wife's hood 😊with each product. I wash that car weekly or twice a week with a Rinseless wash.
Gotcha. Most people, like you’re seeing are getting about 4 weeks out of the product which is obviously terrible for a wipe on ceramic. Thanks for the info. It helps a lot of people out, Cerakote claims it’s an inexpensive coating but really it’s just an expensive wax. Haha.
I think it's no problem if you name the ceramic coating because of the good performance. They will not sue you for that i think? You say you want to promote the great products that innovate. So do it!!. Just questions i have?
Neither. This one I’ve been selling private label for a couple years. I’ll be launching it under my own brand early next year. AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo to get the latest updates.
For clogging resistance you want a coating that is omniphobic meaning it has oleophobicity as well as hydrophobicity. Not a lot of discussion on it but I chose Mohs Evo for my daily because the fluro-modified resin should give it good performance in those areas.
Because as stated in the video, a spray wax will serve a different purpose as a spray ceramic. My goal is to make each product the best thing in that category. For example the main purpose of a spray wax isn’t long term protection but rather gloss, slickness, ease of use. Most spray waxes will only last a couple weeks at best. So my job is to make all those as good as possible and add a little more durable, maybe make it last 2 months. Adding durability takes away from something else. So if you want more durable you step up to a spray ceramic. There is a give a take with every product so you just have to decide what your top features are you want and pick a product accordingly. Does that make sense?
@@autodetailingpodcast Oh I followed exactly what you were saying, as I watched your Cerakote video and saw what happened. Was just laughing at the comment you made is all. I support your channel and my comment actually made your video.
This was such a bad video, your tests is unrealistic, sure it's giving us some information and your opinion is "a ceramic coating should survive a torture test" but when or why would I ever put an acid or wash my car with a high ph shampoo if I do t want to strip the ceramic coating, when people say real world test, they are talking using daily driven vehicles that's been exposed to the elements in their environment, there's no one definitive environment.
@@autodetailingpodcast Thats not what i said at all. Just because it doesn't survive your torture test doesn't mean its not a good ceramic coating, as far as i'm aware you aren't a chemist and don't know how their product was formulated, so the formulation may be weak against these products that are meant STRIP/DAMAGE ceramic coatings to remove them, these are products they say to never let them come into contact with your paint! lol but the brand never made claims about it resisting harsh chemicals, if we're testing their claims why don't we recreate their tests and see if we get the same results?? not "torture" it and base on when it is no longer showing great results call it a bad product.
@@autodetailingpodcast Thank you. It’s in my cart. How are you to honest, unfiltered, feedback? I’ve been using TEC582 for years now. It will last a couple or three washes (weekly soap and water, or no rinse) usually applied after every wash in my salt air environment. EASY to apply and you cannot beat the price!
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The real winner is that adhesive on the tape😂😂😂
That was exactly what I was thinking too when I got to the end of this video. 😂
I have to say you made some great, valid, and well thought out points.
Thanks man!
@@autodetailingpodcast 👍 👍
Great response to the first video. It’s obvious that some lawyers must of gotten involved on the first one and you responded the right way. No names were mentioned and let everyone use their own imagination. Keep Speaking the truth
thanks! Will do.
Coatings definitely clog. Other RUclipsrs have demonstrated comebacks. Water spot removers have been successful uncloggers.
You've done your best again to let us see the different between the products. So, thank you again! 😃
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching.
Another insightful video jimbo , hopefully it might stop some of the RUclips detailers who have been sniping at your previous video. Stick to your beliefs and principles, I look forward to your roll out of products in 2024 🇬🇧
Thanks for the support!
They’re here!! Check out this vid ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
Thank you. Agree … much more effort to prep for the wipe-on ceramic should yield improvements over other products that simply spray on
100%
Absolutely love the way you handled this and the comments you made!
What is "real world" when non control variables are ever changing.. A torture test thus should be more harsh than "real world"... if a spray product outlast a traditional "Ceramic Coating" wouldn't that show something.... haha I received the coating myself for free to try. I am not even going to bother as the prep of the vehicle will take more time to do than the amount of time the coating will last..
Excited for your products to launch!
thank you! I appreciate the feedback.
Product launch is here - ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
Clogging occurs from dirt and mineral deposited, not cleaners. You won’t see clogging on a freshly applied product kept inside.
Good to know.
Yep, would only happen indoors if not dried well and you had crazy hard water.
Great video my friend. I will agree with the “clogging” possibility though. I’ve experienced it with my own cars. Lower panels, and the rear hatch wouldn’t bead water after a few weeks of daily driving even after I washed them with the ph neutral soap. I then sprayed them with an acidic water spot remover, ph2, washed the areas again with ph neutral soap and every bit of the non beading areas came back to original beading….no toppers ever used.
Interesting. I’m definitely open to it especially in the case you pointed out.
That seal and shine is no joke.
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@@autodetailingpodcast looks great my friend and you got me with the no streaking you are correct see you and shine does streak. What is a durability how many months do you think? And also the most important question is this UV protection?
Thanks for keeping it real as always, Jimbo!
Always!
Is this your coating that’s survived 20 tortured test? 😂
It is not, I don't believe Jimbo has ever used our products. I believe these are all products he's testing for his personal brand.@@KiloKaze
@@KiloKazeI wouldn’t be surprised. The Armour Wheel Coating has taken a beating on my wheels but also shower mirror I put it on to test. No degradation. One application of Adam’s Wheel and Tire did not phase it on the mirror.
it's not, id be happy to have Armour as a client, but theyre not currently a client and I didn't use their coating. @@KiloKaze
I come away with same conclusion so I’ll just say it: there are only so many formulations of chemical solvent coatings. What may set one coating apart from another is what percent of actual chemicals contained within. Would it shock me that a few lines of coatings are made by the same manufacturer? Absolutely! Cost deviation between products and product lines and percentage of actual chemicals that make a coating perform ok / good / great drives the cost?
Keep up the great work
Only other thing I can think of is conduct a search of companies who produce solvent based car / wheel coatings and see if patents have been applied for and look at MSDS sheets 🤙🏽
Thanks! There are a just a handful of worldwide companies that make specific raw materials that are the main drivers in the coatings. They hold trademarks on those raw materials.
You hit the nail on the head when you said “ after applying this much time into the vehicle, you would want a product to last “ is pure facts… nothing is worse then spending hours upon hours on a vehicle to be let down by a product you should supposedly trust
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Pan the Salesman is pissed. TBH, I will stick with my trusted Carpro and Gyeon! Cherry Coke... no thanks!
100% Most chemicals should not affect a coating!
Great video! Keeping it real as always. Are we ever going to find out what coating is on the right side of the panel? 😂
ya, soon!
lol, was gonna ask the same thing!!
My guess is Jimbos
New product Line
we wish you good luck in your new venture
thanks! im excited to bring some stuff to the market that people dont even know exist. @@ATGMotoring
In Jimbo I trust.
At this point being a beginner I almost think it’s easier to just apply a spray and wipe ceramic maybe 3 or 4 times a year and be done with it. It seems to be durable and provide adequate protection, and only takes 15 min. And it doesn’t need to have a polish before it can be applied
i think youre on to something for sure. I personally like the extra protection of a ceramic then top it often with a spray, but I could be going overboard.
@@autodetailingpodcast as a professional not knowing what the customer will do I think a true coating would be better assurance for yourself. For a diy that takes care of their own vehicle I could see a spray working. You see the vehicle everyday and can see when things start to fade
You’re pretty much correct, though I don’t think many sprays really last months and months at peak behavior. I use a coating because I find the repellency just a level above spray sealants. There’s quite an argument to be made that CanCoat is one of the best value products out there if you can use the entire bottle.
F the people who top coating.... if you had to top a coating why not just use a sealant instead of a ceramic coating?? I like these test keep it up jimo all these so call them self professional detailers telling people you definitely needs to use a top on your ceramic coating to keep it going so BS then the ceramic coating not doing its job now
Thanks for watching.
Glass bottle ceramic coatings,the perception is that they should last longer than Spray coatings.
Ceramic coatings in glass bottles that last less then Spray coatings with the extra work, I’m on the fence with that one.
please continue to do these!!! I make my decisions based off your videos on what to get and what NOT to!! Thanks dude!! Can you try other brands for ceramic coatings? Gyeon, meguiars, carpro, and more?
Yes and yes!
I came for the info on the good stuff on the right side... don't let me down Jimbro.
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Lower ph is acid, higher ph is alkali.
Wow; Your garage floor tiles are amazing!! Do you happen to know what brand, make or model or any info on those floor tiles?? Thank you in advance and Awesome Vids btw!
Thank you. Swisstrax
Great job. I have been using a mix and match procedure with some products and i finally got that right combo. I do my car now every 2yrs. Just did it recently. The main product i have stuck with after claying is HD speed mixed with 3D. Then ceramic sealants.
Great combo. 3D speed is a long long time favorite of mine.
I think clogging is the wrong word. What I’ve seen happen is customers fail to wash their cars regularly and they allow contaminants and minerals to bond to their paint covering the coating. I use an acidic wash, CarPro Descale, to remove the minerals sitting on top of the paint. That usually brings the coating back. I have seen coatings fail but that’s when someone just doesn’t maintain their vehicle at all and I mean not washing their car at all despite being warned that it could reduce the life of the coating.
I would like to see how these coatings and waxes hold up to products you're actually supposed to use on painted surfaces, like various acidic and alkali snow foams and car wash soaps
Im with you, I think I need to incorporate those into the test. A lot of people dont realize that high pH soaps and high pH wheel cleaners are similar.
@@autodetailingpodcast Other products like iron removers, bug and tar removers, etc, that can degrade waxes, sealants and coatings would be great to test as well. Until recently I'd primarily used traditional waxes (Turtle Wax's Pro Graphene line most recently, which I LOVE), and they wouldn't hold up to more than a couple applications of an iron remover. I've got Cerakote's glass bottle ceramic coating that I was going to apply to the car after doing paint correction in the spring, but after all the negative buzz I think I'm just going to paint correct and apply it to my hood and see how that goes first. I have to wax my hood about twice as often as the rest of the car so it'll be a good test medium
Good plan, it seems to me that others are getting about 4 weeks out of the cerakote coating. @@DanielReyes-hz1qk
@@autodetailingpodcast With a Clean Maker topper every 2 to 3 weeks I can get 4 to 6 months out of the Turtle Wax Ceramic Graphene Paste wax. No chemical resistance though, lol
I think the most important thing is you know its limits and TW isnt claiming durability really with that product, but gloss is #1 i think. @@DanielReyes-hz1qk
It think the argument that chemical resistance tests are meaningless is completely unfounded. I live in Michigan where we get salt and beet juice half the year and big guts and bird bombs the other half. I need to know that I can use a low ph to get of minerals and high ph to get off grime. If I can’t use those types of products without stripping the coating I’m lost at what to do really. Contact washing only does so much.
hence why I keep doing the torture test!
@@autodetailingpodcastdoing the lords work sir!
I'm in Rochester Hills / Shelby Twp, and I keep going back to Optimum Gloss Coat.
Too many times I thought it was dead, only to clay the car in preparation for polishing and re-coating to find an intact coating.
It's not the prettiest, but it works for me. It's the only ceramic I offer.
Jimbo I only ask one thing of you. Please replace that leaky spray nozzle. That is all, carry on with the good content.
Haha! I hear ya. Will do
Ain’t gonna lie~ I was skeptical from the last video, but this video definitely proved me wrong.
Glad you liked it.
Was it the new Cerakote ceramic coating? Is that what you took down? Lots of folks noticing after the first wash no more water beading, only sheeting. That’s BS! Cerakote fooled us, damn.
They didn’t like the vid. Thought I had a financial interest in talking bad about it. I worried about getting attorneys involved so I took it down. Turns out the torture test are more accurate than people think.
"Won't wash it 500 times"....insert tongue in cheek.....lol
food for thought, since actual ceramic coatings are supposed to chemically bond with the paint, they shouldnt fail at all. maybe wear down over the years, but should never fail. of course thats if we are to trust what the manufacturers tell us.
You’re 100% right. From that we can assume some coatings don’t actually bond to the paint, which is why we get premature (according to their claims) failure
I had Car Pro ceramic applied on my truck cost $4k lasted 2 years Now thinking maybe wrap it with a ppf instead 🤷✌️🙏🇨🇦
Ouch. I try and stay away from PPF personally.
Loved the video, very interested in products when they come to market. I like changing it up with my washes like using the spray wax on top of wipe on ceramic spray or the ceramic coating. Thanks again.
Me too. I often put a spray wax over a coating.
My products have launched! ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
What was applied to the far right panel? Also is the wipe on ceramic coating one thats already on the market or is it a product you are developing?
Im finishing up the label for it now and it should be launching in a few weeks. JimbosDetailing.com to get notified.
@@autodetailingpodcast is the coating on the right panel something that comes in glass bottles like gyeon mohs? I just finished watching your spray on torture test and was impressed with your spray on ceramic spray. I've dumped meguiars since another big channel showed how bad it was and some of your torture tests confirm what I've seen. Would your spray be compatible as a topper for the new more robust coating or is that not recommended?
@@InTheZone85 yes that’s a wipe on on the right side. Tough as shell is great as a a topper too.
Thought there was nothing wrong with the last video. The coating on the right was getting the same treatment and was doing fine. Just a bunch of whiners out there. If the previous coating was good it would have withstood the torture. Another good video although I don't think it was really necessary like I said above. The other coating took the torture with no problems.
Spray and rinse best stuff easy use once a month some Maguires blue bottle and your set ever month
Love the video. Great work.
Thanks!
Okay, so a couple of questions: What was involved in "curing" the hood? Did you "park" it outside where a lot of cars spend most of their time? Or did it sit inside the garage? The comment about 'real world' is vaild, but cannot be dismissed simply based on geography. Obviously results in the northeast would be different than in southwest. But applying the coatings and giving them exposure to the environment is 'real world' testing.
I agree but everyone’s “real world” is different. Some are garaged, some are not. Some are in the north some in the south…which one do you pick to be the winner of the “real world”?
great video! i used chem guys " Clean Slate" that broke down all the non prof. coatings i had on my truck . you should try that stuff on your next test. just saying. awesome test!!!! thanks. i used cerakote a few weeks ago. waiting to see how it works. " truck got caught in the rain then i put it in the garage. i just knew it would have water spots on it the next day. nothing. looked like i just washed it! it was perfect. so far so good!
Great video and valid points for real 💪. Spending time in prepping a car to coat you want something that’s durable. We still want to know what’s on the far right 🤣🤣
Coming in January - just working on packaging and stuff. AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo to get notified when it’s out.
@@autodetailingpodcast will do can’t wait 💪
Please test some coating against some that has a topper’s applied, topping to me should be a interim solution to a failing coating until it can be reapplied.
100% accurate. Great way of putting it.
6:00. Exactly, who has the “real world.” Eg is something good for 5 years? Dunno, come back in 5 years. Accelerated wear tests only approximate the “real” world.
The testing like this video achieves consistency to allow us to make informed decisions. Thank you for running the tests
Great video, the lesson we learn here is if a coating had its veggies and vitamins it would certainly hold upto wheel cleaners🤣
Is the spray and wipe for the test hood the same you have listed on the website for 35 bucks?
Never mind, I just ordered a bottle. I hope it is.
Yes it is the spray . This video was recorded before it was released.
Clog is been said to require more than 1 step of wash or prewash then again what was the ratio of those used. Iron remove sounds a bit weird since they are tiny particles as proven by the color change ability. Is ironic though that the iron gets stuck on a coat that is meant to have high slick and low friction performance..
What i would had add as a stress test would had been IPA, Tar&Glue, screen wash wiper alcohol based or sap remover.
Great video !!! Appreciate this test
Thank you!
gyeon mohs evo drop off is shocking . failing at 9 months on my personal car was disgraceful
Apparently there’s a lot of bad ceramics.
@@autodetailingpodcast gyeon mohs evo , gtechniq csl are 2 of the biggest load of garbage ive ever used . Real world results are shocking yet many make out there a game changer 💩
All I can say is I feel like I may have been duped into the cerakote coating. I haven’t installed it yet and I am a little apprehensive. I like detailing so maybe o give it a try. I have a few months before the weather gets good enough to try it. Worse case scenario is it fails, I get a refund, and I install what I originally had planned on. All valid points Jimbo!
I would say to still install it, its easy to do and you can always top it for the time being if it starts to not bead water. just dont have high expectations. haha
@@autodetailingpodcast purely opinion here but what is your favorite prosumer coating that you would recommend?
its funny how much pan the organiser hints to you in his cerakote follow up video, talking about legal ramifications
It’s weird. Like why not just mention me by name.
What did he say?
@@brooklynpratt mentioned jimbo having an agenda because he’s launching his own products and saying he can get sued for that, even though the cerakote product is pretty terrible
its a lazy argument from Pan and others Like Yvan as well, both are known to do the same exact thing. Unlike them, ive consulted for the biggest brands and worked directly with blenders (they get interviews but never the access). Never wanting to have my own brand before, im doing it now not as a money play, but rather im frustrated by brands that decided to release subpar products for no reason. Cerakote being a prime example. So, im going to release products the way I want and show people how good of products they can actually get their hands on. @@mr.detail6527
@@mr.detail6527 thanks - which video of Pan's are we talking about? He's got two regarding Cerakote - one at almost 56 minutes long and another at way over an hour. Way too long for me to give him my interest but I am curious.
I think you may have upset a few in the detailing world with the last video jimbo ! The main thing in my opinion is that the ceramic coating works and after it has it's normal wash it still beads and repels water and if it does then i would apply a top up spay simply to get a better shine and and to look more glossy . My own car i have carpro cquart 3 and i use carpro reload afterwards and it does really enhance the shine and look .
I am yet to use the one in your video but i will in the new year and hopefully get some great results as back here in the UK it pisses it down nearly every week lol .
Who ?
Truth hurts sometimes.
Can u test diy details ceramic coatings? Ivan may not like that.
Ya I’ll just need to buy them.
They are holding up great for my customers.
awesome! Ive been friends with Nick for a long time, glad he's having success with his brand. @@havingtoomuchfun4806
Let’s face it
most good cleaners for winter wash’s need a bit higher ph the glass bottle coating’s should be able to take a few good hits even a touch less tunnel washes have a high ph.
In my world it has to take that hit a bunch of times.
agreed!
Sure wish these products were available now. Polishing my car next week and looking for a durable spray or wipe coating. Anything you could recommend in the meantime?
Polish with 3D one and spray and wipe with the last coat v2. People hate it on but that stuff is very durable.
Nah, get Gyeon can coat
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They’re available- ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
I used a spray and rinse and it stained my coating/paint to the point that washes wouldnt remove it, and had to polish.
Which spray ceramic did you use on the bottom left part?
This one - ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
I wonder if my Kamikaze KMKZ No.5 cleansing would take it off?
Happy New Year ✌️🇨🇦
Happy new year!
Everyone hawking alkaline snow foams but thinks this isn’t a valid test. 😂. It’s accelerated, that’s all. Especially for wheel coatings. Can’t pimp Brake Buster, GS, or any other alkaline wheel cleaner / APC every video and expect people to not use them. I don’t use alkaline chemicals on coated cars except in rare cases. CarPro Reset and an acid wash are enough for 99% of maintenance washes.
I agree with you. It’s just an easy argument to say so they keep saying it.
can you flood a panel if you want to, even coated
Thanks for the video, loved it
Thanks for checking it out!
put a "clogged" coating under a microscope and check it out :)
Can the name of products be shared in case its not against the lawyer people who made the old video taken off ?
especially the spray and wipe
Im not ready to share that. AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo to be first to know when they’re ready
@@autodetailingpodcast ohh, they are new products in development , I thought they are existing commercial ones like TW hybrid spray . Best of luck for your new products :)
Jimbo, you have to snap your finger everytime you blow dry then say "bone dry"
haha
I'm totally confused. Can you briefly explain what is going on?
From the comments, it appears you tested a cerakote product that performed poorly, and had to delete the video because of threats from the company.
But why all the secrecy around the products used in this test?
Ya you’re correct about the Cerakote video.
can i know what product is at the bottom left of the panel? please..
I’ll be releasing it next year. AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo
Bottom left product here - ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
So what was the ceramic coating that you used?
ive been selling it private label for the past 4 years and I dont disclose my clients. But, ill be bringing it under my own brand in Jan/Feb - AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo if you want more info.
@@autodetailingpodcast Yeh, thanks to Walter!
I always get bird droppings. That is considered real world
It sure is in my world.
Not arguing but i thought coating clogging was from road film dirt and mineral deposits...
It might be. I’m not really clear on it. People have commented in the past that it might be clogged with chemicals so that’s what I was referencing
@autodetailingpodcast thanks for the content.. Merry Christmas, Jimbo
What is the far right coating?
A coating that isn’t released yet.
@@autodetailingpodcast Thank you for the response. Just a bit confused, but I thought the unreleased coating was the one next to the far right. Are they both unreleased?
My bad. Far far right is same w/ graphene added.
What products are on the panel?
Coming out in early 2024 - AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo to be first to know when they’re ready
@@autodetailingpodcastearly 24? But that's days away!!! ;)
ya like mid Jan, Feb at the latest. @@rooboy99
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When are these coming out Jimbo?
Starting in Jan. AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo to be notified. Will also be posting videos too.
@@autodetailingpodcast sweet!!!!
They’re out now - ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
Not so much to do with the video, but a lot of people say water beading doesn’t mean protection has failed if the panel stops beading or sheeting, so how can it protect against the outdoor dirts etc if it can’t repel water? Genuine question what I don’t understand.
that is right sometimes, but honestly if the water beading is gone you can be sure that the protection isnt far behind. The water beading going away is usually the first way to tell the protection is starting to fail. It is possible for the protection to still be on the surface and the water not be beading water. But how you tell how much and if the protection is still there is extremely hard to tell, if not impossible, hence why we all use water beading and behavior as a sign of if the protectant is there or not.
@@autodetailingpodcast spot on thanks for the fast reply sir
Maybe someone will get paid to refute this video?
Man the advertiser ?
I think you proved a good point 👍🏼
Your results are real world and totally duplicate my results. I actually called the manufacturer to find out what pH range is protected by their coating and the tech team told 6 to 7. That's why I apply the coatings I do for my clients which protects pH 1 to 15. Which coating in your experience actually has a 5 yr plus durability?
so just to be clear - you applied Cerakote and it didn't last? Asking because people are quick to hate on the torture test, but as I think you point out, they are more realistic than people think.
@@autodetailingpodcastHi, my point was that what I am seeing is a low beading finish compared to the six coatings that I use. In a matter of four weeks of real world washings it is night and day compared to my coatings. It is still slick and actually is a sheeter but it just doesn't compare to products I use. Now that I know the P H limitations I brief people that the product is designed for people who wash their vehicles at home with a pH neutral soap. It is not designed for tunnel car washes that use high pH soaps. So, for me it is a good topper or for clients who don't want to pay for the professional level coatings. I'll will watch these cars since they are each on a qtrly wash maintenance plan. I also coated half of my wife's hood 😊with each product. I wash that car weekly or twice a week with a Rinseless wash.
Gotcha. Most people, like you’re seeing are getting about 4 weeks out of the product which is obviously terrible for a wipe on ceramic. Thanks for the info. It helps a lot of people out, Cerakote claims it’s an inexpensive coating but really it’s just an expensive wax. Haha.
What happened to the cerkote video
have you got brands of what you used?
AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo
Check out my brand new- ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
I think it's no problem if you name the ceramic coating because of the good performance. They will not sue you for that i think? You say you want to promote the great products that innovate. So do it!!. Just questions i have?
I showed all the applications.
Can you name the super coating you use. Why is that a secret. Is it carpro or gyeon.
Or is it your own product you will launch soon? If so this will be torture tested by everyone. Just saying..
Neither. This one I’ve been selling private label for a couple years. I’ll be launching it under my own brand early next year. AutoDetailingPodcast.com/jimbo to get the latest updates.
Yes I’ll be branding it. I’m super excited for people to try it out!
You’ve got a bunch wondering on the right side product…
Btw, that leak in your hose is triggering my OCD
I know…I keep forgetting to replace the o ring
When you will test Meguairs cremic?
I don’t think it’s available yet.
Its already available at autoality. I am also waiting a good review on that (M888).
For clogging resistance you want a coating that is omniphobic meaning it has oleophobicity as well as hydrophobicity. Not a lot of discussion on it but I chose Mohs Evo for my daily because the fluro-modified resin should give it good performance in those areas.
good to know
Can you do some reviews on formula1 ceramic 3 step ? There relaunch products
I tried out their colored spray wax, but it wasnt that good honestly.
Is the coating on right side available for purchase?
working on packaging now.
I want great products 🎉🎉
Great products here - ruclips.net/video/OmE-1XArSwA/видео.htmlsi=as0LAyIIdWKn5G48
100% wrong lol
Which part?
If you make all these, why is it not as good? 😆
What do you mean?
@@autodetailingpodcast 14:54
Because as stated in the video, a spray wax will serve a different purpose as a spray ceramic. My goal is to make each product the best thing in that category. For example the main purpose of a spray wax isn’t long term protection but rather gloss, slickness, ease of use. Most spray waxes will only last a couple weeks at best. So my job is to make all those as good as possible and add a little more durable, maybe make it last 2 months. Adding durability takes away from something else. So if you want more durable you step up to a spray ceramic. There is a give a take with every product so you just have to decide what your top features are you want and pick a product accordingly. Does that make sense?
@@autodetailingpodcast Oh I followed exactly what you were saying, as I watched your Cerakote video and saw what happened. Was just laughing at the comment you made is all. I support your channel and my comment actually made your video.
Gotcha. Thanks for watching!
This was such a bad video, your tests is unrealistic, sure it's giving us some information and your opinion is "a ceramic coating should survive a torture test" but when or why would I ever put an acid or wash my car with a high ph shampoo if I do t want to strip the ceramic coating, when people say real world test, they are talking using daily driven vehicles that's been exposed to the elements in their environment, there's no one definitive environment.
So we should just all believe the claims the companies feed us? Got it.
@@autodetailingpodcast Thats not what i said at all. Just because it doesn't survive your torture test doesn't mean its not a good ceramic coating, as far as i'm aware you aren't a chemist and don't know how their product was formulated, so the formulation may be weak against these products that are meant STRIP/DAMAGE ceramic coatings to remove them, these are products they say to never let them come into contact with your paint! lol but the brand never made claims about it resisting harsh chemicals, if we're testing their claims why don't we recreate their tests and see if we get the same results?? not "torture" it and base on when it is no longer showing great results call it a bad product.
The ceo literally said they can withstand low pH and high pH products…
@@aflyingmodem 💯
I'll be first in line.
Rad! Thank you.
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@@autodetailingpodcast Thank you. It’s in my cart. How are you to honest, unfiltered, feedback? I’ve been using TEC582 for years now. It will last a couple or three washes (weekly soap and water, or no rinse) usually applied after every wash in my salt air environment. EASY to apply and you cannot beat the price!