Why the Original Star Wars the Clone Wars would have been so Much Darker
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2019
- Go to Squarespace.com for your free 2 month trial and when you're ready to launch your site head to squarespace.com/geetslys for 10% off your first purchase!
Join Geetsly's Clone Army Now & Get Access to Exclusive Perks! 💥
• / @geetslys
Check out some of the music we use in our videos!🎶
•bit.ly/RelaxJackYT
Become a Geetsly's 41st Elite Clone Trooper Today🎮:
• / discord
#geetslys #starwars #clonewars
For blogs, merch, business inquiries and to learn about our team check out our website🌐:
•frontiermediaco.com 
Кино
![The Battle that Broke Obi-Wan Kenobi's Heart - Boz Pity Explained [Battle Map]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_wlrvVZyPAQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Go to Squarespace.com for your free 2 month trial and when you're ready to launch your site head to squarespace.com/geetslys for 10% off your first purchase!
Geetsly's why would he kill a clone like cut who’s figured they have free will unless it’s like how jango killed a clone
Was this part of legends
Geetsly's your into bothers me you do not go to attention for a Sargent at all
Holy shit Geetsly, that was such a smooth transition that I almost barely noticed.
“They grow up loyal to the Republic, or they don’t grow up at all.”
-Alpha 17
The only true way
This is the way
Braedon knott i have spoken
@@theoneandonlyquasarsaurus this is the way
So is the will of the force
The episode where rex is sheltered by a traitor clone would’ve ended quickly
Lol
Ah Alpha! The guy who suggested to Obi-wan that they should assassinate every political leader on Jabiim.
Wasnt wrong
Probably would have worked too
Obi-Wan had the moral *H I G H G R O U N D*
And yet in the end, he was vindicated.
YeS
I wish Fordo was in the clone wars
@ToaNater Films - Imagine him and Alpha working together.
@@ARCtrooperblueleader ahh dude that would be Awesome!!!!!!!
@ToaNater Films The only reason he isn't in the series is because Dave Filoni doesn't like Fordo.
ToaNater Films yup, at least we got a figure
@@cooler3613 please no swearing or I will block you
A dark gritty war movie about clones, band of brothers-style would be so epic!
Michael Starwars Right?!?
U guys should read republic commando series by Karen traviss
ramon garcia I have been tempted to try them!
7th legion Imperial Fists hands down best ever if u want a dark story the commandos personalities are so fleshed out
Bad Batch?
We need clone wars movie where the movie can just focus on clone Soldier There point of view of war
Tbh I think it would be great to have it from the perspective of the Clone commandos, considering over half were wiped out during the Battle Of Geonosis. It'd be the perfect excuse to have little to no jedi interactions aside from cameos.
EXACTLY! That would be great, but Disney doesn't care which sucks at least the clone wars is coming back.
@@FukubeHattori agreed. And honestly a live action Clone Wars film would be the biggest cash grab ever, but you know what? I'm completely willing to spend money to watch some clone bois in action, especially commandos. Give us a new squad of commandos who just don't get along with each other considering half of the squad are surviving members of another team. I'd love to see that.
@@nccarlinncc Iv'e always wanted a clone wars live action movie about the clones.
@@FukubeHattori same. Here's to hoping Disney gets smart and makes one.
Would’ve KILLLED for a realistic dark Clone Wars series. Featuring Temuera Morrison as the voice for the clones
TheTroll Mastah OH MY MANDA‘YAIM _YES_ !
But Morrison doesn't give the clones much feeling.
@@MF-qo7vv Granted, that could be because he didn't really have the opportunity to do so. Outside of the movies, the only time he's ever had a chance to portray the clones is in Republic Commando and the original Battlefront games.
Matthew Fisher Morrison can do emotion, it’s just that Lucas didn’t want him to. He’s a much better voice than DBB.
@@cooler3613 Like I said. He never really got the opportunity to do so. His filmography during TCW was rather sparse, so I doubt that he was unavailable. Maybe he wasn't interested in doing the show.
Star Wars is so much cooler with a darker tone that’s why I loved republic commando
Agreed
And... The mandalorian songs... That gave me chills first Time, even i would sing it if i were a Mercenary, cuz it's epic as hell.
I grew up reading Star Wars comics. I didn’t end up watching the Clone Wars till my twenties. I actually kinda had a problem with how likeable the clones were in the show compared to how I’d read about them being.
Alpha, and others like him were no doubt written to show how easy it would be for the clones to turn against the Jedi.
In the show they had to add the chips, because of how likeable the clones were. Don’t get me wrong it was a great arc, and very tragic. But, some part of me wishes we could have gone the chip-less route. The Alpha route.
Honestly I find clones who lean more towards the Dark Side and probably would've supported Sidious (Alpha, Fordo, Baracca, Delta Squad, Cody and Gree) to be way more interesting than Light Side rebellion clones like Rex or Fives.
Before George Lucas sold Star Wars the comics and video games outside of his movies whenever considered Canon to him. He said it himself
@@ADmillionaire If that's true, nobody cared, because the only other people who didn't consider it canon were people who didn't know it existed.
@@samueldimmock694 Basically how everyone feels about cannon in general. I have my own favourit series of events, you have yours, he has his, she has hers, etc. If I don't like a thing it didn't happen in my canon, same for you, him, her, so on. I still remember the meltdown when Disney said "Legends" was no longer "Canon" and thinking to myself "That's cute, get back to me when you've got mind control and we'll talk about how much you actually dictate my thoughts."
Fuck I know some people that don't consider anything but your BASIC force powers (Telekinesis, Persuasion, Restore, Lightning) canon because everything else is "Too over the top" and if that's the version of Star Wars they wanna enjoy, that's the version they are gonna enjoy, regardless of what George, Disney, or anyone else wants to say about it.
Considering these clone soldiers were genetically "chips off the old block" (Jango Fett being the old block in this analogy), microchips narratively fitted _right in_ with the clone soldiers!🧬🧠😆
War is hell. Chaotic. Bloody. Brutal. Cruel. All the things Jedi aren't. *Can't* be.
Order 66
@@cooler3613 "Hey I found a few instances where SOME jedi did some hypocritical things and have flaws like every human (sentient) being that totally justifies mass genocide and erecting a totalitarian regime that enslaves the majority of the galaxy. Lets also not talk about the countless lives they've saved and all the millenia of peace and prosperity their presence provided"
@@patternwhisperer4048 it really gets old
hey you let’s not talk about all the lives they’ve ruined or Wars they’ve started.
@@cooler3613 or the babys the stole or the childsoldiers or the slave/clonearmy or the attack on the senate because of his religion.
Alpha 17 is pretty much Sev from "Republic commando" Delta squad mixed with Speirs from "Band of Brothers". A clone version of "BoB" would be a great thing, but let's face it, it ain't happening. Also, i always liked the guy cause his attitude towards the Jedi was: "Want my respect? Earn it".
Bob clone wars would be amazing. Love the clone wars and band of brothers would be amazing
@@dragonweezle4876 so... what would he give the captured droids? Because... death sticks ain't shit to them.
Sean D.G god I’m glad I found other people who like BoB :,)
@@2008-wii-remote likewise. Question still stands, tho... ideas?
I doubt that Alpha would be as dark in TCW as he was in the comics, similar to how drastically Quinlan Voss got changed in the series.
Vos went back to his Clone Wars era characterization in Dark Disciple. Apparently, his more jovial personality was a throwback to when he and Obi-Wan were Padawans.
@@sambridgers9543 where can I read the comics
@@darthhidious887 It's the pre-Episode I era Republic comics.
@@sambridgers9543 your an angel man. Any specific place or website?
Sam Bridgers wait what? I heard dark disciple changed quinlans legends personality and story drastically in several ways. I’m not completely comfortable talking about those differences both since I haven’t read it myself only seen some tibs of text and I also don’t want to spoil anything.
Alpha leading the 501st would make more sence with anakin becoming Vader
Alpha is my absolute favorite ARC. "They grow up loyal to the Republic, or they don't grow up at all." He had me at that quote.
The original clone wars dark horse comics (republic comics) were the best depiction of an actual gritty war, I love those comics
Alpha-17: I tip my helmet to you, one legend to another. *tips helmet*
Captain Rex: *tips helmet back in respect*
Prime
*Ahh i see your a man of culture as well.*
The west is dead, there’s no need for gunslingers anymore
M’brother
@@legionprime7715 You play on xbox? I'm a legion main!
Real talk: I can't decide which version of the Clone Wars I like better; the original, gritty interpretation from the CW multimedia project or TCW for having some of the best characters and stories in the universe.
Sometimes, you don't have to make a choice.
@Young Smitty - Original, definitely. The show was okay, but the original was better.
*_We all have, a choice..._*
_- Captain Rex_
They were equally as good in their own ways.
@@KEVMAN7987 Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
It’s hard to take the bio-chip information, and retcon it into the old Clone Wars stuff. Originally, the Clones simply followed orders and the chain of command. Order 66 was one of many general orders created for the Grand Army Of The Republic. One of many orders that the Clones were trained since birth to obey. Some refused to obey because they had grown as individuals, and learned to not to blindly follow orders. Some were out of contact when the order went down. Some ever questioned if the order was real or enemy tampering. These all made for interesting stories. The bio-chip is just an “evil mode” switch. Now, there has to be some convoluted reason why the chip didn’t work, or was removed. The most interesting thing about the chip is if it rewrote the Clones’ memories and altered their brain chemistry. There’s a comic where a Clone actually says he couldn’t remember the battles he fought along side the Jedi, and he just saw them as the enemy. He later realized what he did and regretted it.
Ironic, the clones in Legend Where Mandalorians that Where loyal to the Sith lord Darth Sidious AKA Palpatine & Both destroyed the Jedi order, it really brings up the thousand of years history of Mandalorian & Sith’s working together to overcome the Republic & Jedi Order & the Clones & Palpatine manage to do so
It's almost like it was deliberately done to have a Mandalorian clone army Because of all the past wars and hatred the Republic had towards Mandalorians....1.the acceptance of slave soldiers 2. The Jedi disliking and being distrusting of clones 3. Not caring about the soldiers lives 4. And making Mandalorians the scape-goat as the masterminds for destroying the Jedi,
"the jedi and clones fought each other because of the tension between the two groups. Just Race and Religion, causing violence as always, with no outside influence or possible conspiracy!" - Palpatine
Commander Baracara: throw our men at the front lines
Alpha: throw our men and flip of any Jedi that say we shouldn't.
If Alpha did enter Imperial Service, the Rebels would be gone in no time.
Armoured Productions Yup although he hated stormtrooper due to their competency and hated the imperial officer been too confident
@Robert Ortiz-Wilson Well too bad Alpha 17 disappeared after the assault on Boz Pity.
@Robert Ortiz-Wilson trawn is fine in rebels
I would have liked to see Alpha and Rex in the Clone Wars and see how they both reacted to one another. It would have been cool to see in my opinion.
They should do some clone movies and some delta squad
future clone commando nice channel art
@@ToaNaterFilms ok......cool i guess
I would love a darker setting in a clone wars style show. Maybe follow the story of the republic commando novels and explore more how the clones got raised and what morally questionable things happend on spec-ops mission.
I seriously am in awe at how detailed these videos are 🤘🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻💎
alpha: sorry krell we are removing you from command for incomitance
krell: you dare question me clone!?
alpha: it's alpha and you are under arrest hand over your saber
I don't know if I agree. Afaik we don't know anything of what happens to Alpha after Boz Pity, and given that everything we know about him is before the inhibitor chip arc. This means that Alpha stands out not on a moral spectrum but one of law vs. chaos, and which clone was more willing to ignore orders than Alpha?
The question for Alpha wouldn't have been Empire or Republic as much as it would have been Anakin or Obi-Wan, and I really think that his path would have been more complicated than you're suggesting.
Well said! I think it is very hard to speculate on what his decisions would be, he is very reclusive and we don't have material from his PoV directly
In cannon clone commandos had inhibitor chips as Rex said in Star Wars rebels that wolf Gregor and himself had removed theirs and how could Gregor remove his if he didn’t have one.
Chips as a whole are pretty dumb
Yeah
It would be more dark because the Senate would be more dark.
I am an adult and always saw snippets of SWTCW and always thought, thats a series for children. But later i started watching and was really suprised how violent and also cruel this series is. But yes... you could easily make this series more dark
godwrote01 maul gutting Satele was pretty brutal. Like I knew he took your legs but wouldn't have been more cruel but not Satan cruel to cut her legs off right in front of him and forced him to watch her suffer in unbearable agony as her mind tries to rationalize what's happened to 1/4 of her body ? TBH, I just realized how fucking dark this would have been instead. Okay, the gutting was far more merciful and got results. Damn, I should start going back and making Dark deaths or scenarios 🤔
At the end of the day.......it’s still a kid’s show.
@@blackshogun272 that was satine, satele would gut maul like a fish
@@darthvader566 sorry. Got their names mixed up. Ones a god tier Jedi Grandmaster and the other is some blonde that could barely shoot a blaster well.
Found Freddy Prinze jr
“The earth was unearthly”
-Heart of Darkness
I have the comic book figure 2 pack and it came with a Alpha 17 toy it was the coolest the best clone design.
Gotta disagree with you a bit here. Alpha was created to serve the Republic, to kill the sith, and to Win the war against the separatists. Ahsoka would have been a competent resource to him, one of few he was allowed when surrounded by jedi. He would not have been quick to discard that resource for no reason, if he lacked a chip. Having killed Krell before even learning of his true plans, Alpha would not see the leadership of the republic as sacrosanct, especially not a robe wearing sith that so reminded him of Krell and Dukoo. He would see the malfunction of the inhibitor chips as a vital weakness in his army, in his mission. He would not have been able to deduce a tactical benefit to killing all the jedi at the end of the war for the Republic, but he could plainly see the instability and danger of having inhibitor chips which could cause troops to turn on their commanders mid battle, thats just bad tactics most of the time.
Alpha would likely see Sidious as just an extension of the Separatists, a threat to the Republics effort to win the war. He is a critically thinking clone, not prone to the imperial doctrine of following orders without question, which IS THE IMPERIAL WAY. Questioning orders, doing what you think is smart and right in place of idiocy or inefficiency is much closer to a Rebel mindset than you might think. He would see the take over of the Empire, the disbanding and ceasing of the clones, and the murder of the Jedi and ousting of all their supporters and friends within the military as an undo strain on the country he was created to defend, and against the race of clones he was a part of.
The empire would give Alpha absolutely no reason to remain loyal if he wasn't completely clueless up to order 66, and he would even then be at least heavily vocal about all the dumb decisions the Empire was making, like downgrading their fighter core, doing away with most of the clones, not seizing the droid armies, and the countless and constant murder of officers for little to no reason by Vader and Palps people. That would put him on their shit list, and he would either evac himself to safety, potentially even join the Rebellion to Restore the Republic, or he would be confronted and killed by Darth Vader.
He would certainly fall out with the Empire, just in a very very different way and for very different motivations. You said it yourself Geets, Rex and Alpha are very similar and neither of them are storm troopers. Neither of them take bad orders quietly, and neither of them would exchange the republic, and their clone brothers, for the Empires endless suppression wars and own special brand idiocy and instability.
When faced with annihilation morality becomes little more than semantics.
Is this not why satan is immoral? he knows he is doomed
Not to the best of us. But I guess that's why they're so rare.
While I like Alpha I’m glad they diversified the clone personalities. I like clones like Rex, Cody, Fives, Waxer and Boil just as much as I enjoy the rude, cynicism and blunt nature of Alpha.
Also, calling him “morally questionable” is an understatement. Guy was a callous, brutal, smart, sociopathic killer, but we enjoy him all the same.
Blue Night I really agree.
*A person enslaved to fight and die in war at birth, has a mindset and personality based on and caused by only knowing death, killing and war.*
-Thinks about killing people because he's forced to and because he wants to live.
*Spoiled, privileged, ungrateful kid who watches and is a fan of seeing slave-soldiers fight and die, but doesn't care or think about the millions of slaves-soldiers who die unless they are a main character to the show (because that's not clear insanity and sociopathic thinking)*
-GASP "I'm looking down on and judging the morality of a fictional character, that has the same life and circumstances as Millions of other human beings experience in the world existing in reality right now! "
Nothing morally questionable about being aware of slavery and evil, ignoring it, and just only calling the victim bad, and also just hurling....lots of evil insults and accusations, again Only towards the victim....which is kinda disturbing and seems unnecessary....oh, and also accusing the victim of Some kind of "mental illness" without having any knowledge of medicine, psychology, or the person being accused's actual symptoms...all done without any care about honesty, the truth, the clear malice your actions were done with, or whether or not your actions are harmful or wrong....
Sav3TheWorld wtf is wrong with you.
Blue Night He’s the type of guy you never want to bump into in real life haha.
Clone Bone Understatement. He seems like the guy with a stick perpetually jammed up his ass.
You know I honestly wouldn’t have mind seeing a darker version of the clone wars to show how cruel war really is.
That clone roasted the hell out of that Jedi in the thumbnail
Edit just found out about Alpha but absolutely love him already
It would have been cool to see Alpha and Rex be cooperative leaders and you could visibly see them go down different paths as they meet darker struggles.
Hope they put alpha 17 in Battlefront 2 he would be badass
Don't get your hopes on but we can get him as a skin
Is alpha-17 legends or Canon
@@danielturner1406 Legends
@@dp-2835 fuck like whyyy😭😭?!?!
I hate fortnight Give me a reason why i shouldn’t The game is shit. Hope that EA ditches Star Wars as should Disney. SW universe must be developed by a company with some ideas.
Would pay to see alpha blast krell, order 66 327th style.
I wish they’d kept more Of the comic stuff. Like Durge....damn durge would’ve been awesome in TCW
Durge and Alpha has some of the best scenes in the comics. Two of my favorite characters for sure.
@Sup Bro "Durge would've been hard to animate in CGI" Monster's Inc and The Incredibles say hi to Filoni
@@dtxspeaks268 I mean TCW was on a MUCH lower budget than those movies
Every video on RUclips is brought to you by Squarespace.
And RAID shadow legends
This comment chain is jointedly sponsored by Squarespace and Raid Shadow Legends learn how to build a website based around the most unique mobile rpg game of this era and beyond.
Honestly Squarespace and Raid should just make a RUclips-killer already
This comment is sponsored by the Separatists
I love the legends clone wars and the Canon clone wars. Honestly I feel glad to have multiple great depictions of the same conflict.
That zoning in effect good early battlefront sound
Honestly I’m fine with the way it turned out, right loved the plenty of dark moments it had. Great video though
Alpha-17 in many ways reminds me of Frank Castle from Punisher MAX. Still I liked Rex and seeing both of them would have been interesting and could have been worked into the story as Rex could easily have been Alpha's replacement as as Alpha was reassigned as a instructor for the ARC-training programs. It could have been fun hearing Rex and other clones complaining about Alpha as a drill-instructor from hell :-)
2:30 " ill never walk again but my hands work fine patch me up before i bleed to death then give me a gun" spoken like a badass indeed
Battle of jabim was the first star wars thing I ever saw a I loved alpha 17 he's on of my favorites
Rex is my boy! I love the clone war era and I’ve always both loved and felt so bad for the clones troops honestly they deserved better
I love the original Clone Wars multi media project (mostly the Dark Horse comics and the animated micro series) for its grittiness and the scale of the battles. There is one image from a Dark Horse story (I think it was Forever Young or a similar sounding name) that always stuck with me. A full page of a Clone Army deploying and rushing into battle. LAATs dropping off troops, AT-TEs and artillery firing and Troopers firing in line formation.
Gotta love that smooth transition from video to advertising. 11:20
Now I´m curious if they wanted at first to produce TCW as a mere extent of the darker tone of the Clone Wars in Legends, specially in Republic books.
I not saying that TCW doesn´t has it´s own brutal moments, but in the general spectrum, it was more "cheerful" compared to what the Clone Wars was before 2008. Clones being almost to the letter like Prime Minister Lama Su told Obi-Wan in Attack Of The Clones; creative, yet very obedient, but without room to really express themselves.
I would have preferred Alpha being cruel and cold Commander. But getting to know Anakin and later respecting his new general he would become softer. Sort of the idea that Skywalker, and by some extent Kenobi, would have showed compassion, sympathy, and love out side of their brothers: giving him a new name Rex. Alpha, now known as Rex, would be forever loyal and grateful for his view on life.
If they made Alpha the Clone Wars character rather than Rex, I actually think they could have brought him in as an actually competent Imperial enemy on Rebels, perhaps as an Inquisitor/Purge Trooper Commander, helping the Inquisitors Hunt the Jedi
Heck even having both would have been interesting, 2 very similar but also different clones who have a bitter rivalry in the clone wars and then seeing them face off in rebels to see who is truly superior
Alpha would’ve killed Krell when he heard Krells plan to march straight up to the capital
I feel like there should be an entire video/series titled “the imperial path”, focusing on the darker side of the heroes’ tactics.
Honestly, I would have gone the way of Alpha 17.
I just came across your channel and your content is AMAZING. Keep up the good work.
Good soldiers follow orders. Good ARC Troopers make their own.
Dang that’s deep bro but I do agree
I'm always hyped for your new videos.
I would LOVED to see what Alpha 17 would've done to General Pong Krell !
Order 66 was made more soft by clone wars imo. Those chips inside the clones forcing them to follow order 66 is much weaker than without them
0:36
Brought back so many memories of the first battlefront
Isn't Ashoka technically a citizen who joined the war on her own Volition after she left the order? And as Such she isn't part of the Jedi council
So Alpha is basically Saw Gerrera as a Clone trooper?
and the jedi accepted a slave army because it was easy. as Skirata puts it, they didn't ask questions, they just picked up the blaster they found on the floor. Expedience ambushes you in the end.
The Imperial route is the only route to righteousness.
I do the Filoni's work was darker, but i still really enjoyed it. My heart will always belong to the work Dark Horse did though!
The star wars rebulic comics were my first star wars comics god damn do I love every min of them.
You started this saying Alpha was Jango and that's pretty much "enough said" he would have killed Jedi and afterwards I think he'd Bounty Hunt
The show began with a target audience of 8. It turned into something more. Much more. glad to grow up with it
I feel like if Alpha was as cynical as he’s presented than he actually would’ve hated the Empire because he would’ve figured out the Sith grand plan, it being a total farse, and remove his inhibitor chip he wouldn’t be quite altruistic when dealing with it but he’d be against it by nature.
Rex is one of my favorites, hard to imagine Clone Wars without him
Someone should make a game that is open galaxy and you can choose diff like lives. Force users could choose their fighting style and bounty hunters could hunt targets and make a name for themselves and tons of other stuff
Honestly im gald we got rex and fives rather than just getting more of the same clones over and over
Honestly would've loved to see both evil and good clones. Have Rex and Fives lean towards LS, and then have Alpha, Fox, Fordo and Delta Squad lean towards DS and be brutal and merciless.
I wish we would get a more realistic take on Star Wars. I love Star Wars and all the weird stuff in the EU and one of my favorite parts is the New Jedi Order books. The Yuuzhan Vong were a much more realistic enemy than most. They killed off some major characters, though they should have killed more, and they gave the jedi a real challenge. The Rebels and Clone Wars tv shows dumb down their enemies a lot, Rebels more than Clone Wars, and they make the story really childish. I hate that those parts of the canon that could have really amazing, complex, and possibly even mature stories are made into mostly jokes and easy to digest material for children. I hope one day we can have some more morally complex characters and stories in Star Wars. I wish it was treated as more than a story for kids
I Think Alpha wouldn’t have shot Ashoka because of his inhibitorchip. He would have from pure hate. I believe alpha, would learn from umbara that he and his brothers truly were cannon fodder. And would likely have started a clone revolution with the end of clone production and destruction of Kamino. I believe that he would burn planets and city’s to the ground in the name of his own pride and his lesser brothers. He would be sick to his stomach knowing how he, the perfect soldier. Has been made a fool of with years of suffering. He would find the whole war pointless. And would start a war with a purpose. Thanks for your amazing video Geets ❤️🦉💪
Would had been interesting for sure. While Rex is the embodiment of a good, loyal and trustworthy soldier, Alpha is more of a Arnold Schwarzenegger Terminator. Loyal, unbreakable, unwavering in his commands or orders.
"Star wars Republic comics, which are hard to find.."
They're all on Comixology
Alpha seems like my kind of clone
I remember reading the aloha comics as kid but could never remember the names this video helped me out so thanks
Oh I remember Alpha from the comics I still have when I was younger ^_^
He was awesome and sassy.
Huh, legends clones have an interesting way of being. I do appreciate how canon showed them as actual people but its also cool to see how different these guys are from naturally birthed non conditioned humans, how easy it is for people to have treated them like droids or fodder like they often did.
" how different these guys are from naturally birthed non conditioned humans, how easy it is for people to have treated them like droids or fodder like they often did"
lol yup, so very different from how Normal people are treated in our world. ROFL Only Clones are treated in such a bad way, that stuff Will Never happen to natural birth humans like us! Because were hatched/born organically, not in a factory, so all the bad things happening aren't going to affect us!
Sav3TheWorld yeah yeah I get the point. people in real life can be brain washed or shocked by the tragedies of war into heartless killing machines too. But they don’t start out like that. The clones had their brains mangled about by neck people to see that they came out that way from the start.
Alpha 17 as villain in rebels, could only work as a Rex centered episode(s).
Studies have show that 2 in 3 people will torture and kill people just because someone in authority tells them to, when adding surviving the horrors of war it's understandable why Rex's choice is so rare in both the series and reality.
Interesting. Do you have the sources for this? I'd be interested in having a read.
A quicker victory to war is a wise choice
Am I the only one who absolutely hates the bio implant part from the new clone wars? It makes the whole order 66 scene a lot less dramatic and real. The scene is not about showing how blind loyalty and patriotism combined with the harsh reality of war makes people do terrible things and showing just how much the Jedi never understood the clones anymore, now it is a bunch of noble good guys killing a bunch of noble good guys, but it's not their fault, it was all due to the evil bio-chips implanted by the evil Sith lord, so kids can still watch this scene without asking themselves difficult questions. It's just bad.
I think it was a good choice to keep rex over alpha because alpha lacks the brother like character that rex was to the other clones. Alpha would get things done at all cost while rex though things through
Yep, they might have changed Alpha's personality the same way they changed Grievous' and other notable characters. TCW 2008 sure just doesn't fit in Legends at all even before its inception... doesn't make it terrible though.
By the way, Lucas sure has an odd amount of nitpicks in developing stuff.
3:46: And that's why the Marvel Epic Collection of comics is a thing these days. It's not done with *all known comics yet,* but they're still worthwhile to get and collect if you can.
Edit: By the way, the Imperial route = the gung-ho route for me.
The Sith Race, being the hell spawn of a dying evil primordial, would have always waged war with the Republic and Jedi eventually but it could have been set back eons had the Jedi not truly divided the balance of the Force in their war with Xendor and his Legions of Lettow. Xendor even had an encounter with The Ones and had a massive epiphany about gods, goddesses, and entities worshipped across the stars that mirrored the powers of The Force. He came to the theory that The Force takes on different forms to a species or religions beliefs but in the end leads back to the Cosmic Force that holds everything together. His lover didn't really acknowledge his great journey but understood that the battle their army was about to wage war with would change history of the galaxy. In the end, she was right and so was Xendor about his theory. To a degree 👌
Wonder what apha would thought of commander fox
I think I know who Alpha 17 reminds me of! HK-47 Revan's Crazy Physcopathic Assassin Droid!
I use to have an action figure of Alpha 17 or at least someone who looked a lot like him. It was around the time just before Episode III came out
Back in the days I imagined armies of clones fighting each other.
I was lucky to get the entire Clone Wars comic set, and it is great.
I would have loved to have both Rex and Alpha and their interactions with Fives and Krell, as well as their opposing viewpoints as the War went on, coming to a head when Order 66 went down
@11:36 that's a lot of money, and good video.
Alpha probably wouldn't have sided with the Empire. Seeing as he was born to fight for the Republic, and Jango had the clones made for the Republic, not the Empire.
I like both of them. In fact if I was to have a dream team of clones. My 4 would be
Captain Rex
Alpha 17
Fordo
Boss .
Though it would be interesting trying to keep the Arks troopers to play nice with the cammando.