Intel Arc - Is it ANY good?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Interested in the state of Arc in 2024? I'm going to talk today about the history and state of the GPU in 2024 and share my experience with the card so far after 6 months of use.
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Love to see another arc user having a good time with the A750
Thanks for stopping by, I can say the same. Arc deservingly got some heat on launch, but I'm glad to see that more and more of us are joining team blue on this one. Happy gaming!
I bought the Arc a750, gonna buy battle mage when it comes out.
I will be too, I'm really excited about battlemage and I hope it is what they say it is. We need a shakeup in the gpu and cpu market. These 5 and 10 percent gains from gen to gen is getting silly. I think we are all looking for that gear that just rocks our socks.
My ASRock ARC A380 boosts up to 2.994GHz.
Settings: 72 PerfBoost, 185 Offset, 60W, 90C
Nice, I honestly have not overclock my 750 at all. I've tried to remain as stock as possible for review and benchmark tests to be a simple and honest about it as possible. Maybe closer to battlemage I'll push mine to see what I can get out of it but I'm happy as is for now.
I got a used arc a750 sparkle orc edition, runs flawlessly. I really like it.
Nice, I love the way those look. I wanted to buy that one initially but went with the ASRock version instead.
Good video bud, little tip, stop bumping the desk the noise drove me nuts. Keep it up 👍
Thanks for the tip, I didn't hear that until I put headphones on. I've got a busted wheel on my chair and didn't know the mic was picking up it hitting the floor. Much appreciated 😅
Good to see an honest 'average Joe' review of the Intel card.
As an early adopter of the A770, with a 'poverty ?' 5600X on a 3440 x 1440 Xiaomi display, I was somewhat disappointed in the performance in some games when the card was just released.
Since the early buggy driver days, things have improved greatly, with all my games playing nicely now.
I am especially impressed with the A770's ability in AutoCad Fusion360 with complex models (16GB VRAM helps).
I appreciate your content and hope your subs and views grow, so you can fix that broken wheel on your chair.
All the best from Down Under.
Thanks, that was the stance I wanted to take when I started all of this because every review video I ever watched was with high end hardware and never mid to low end. Most of us can't afford 3000 dollar systems.
My A770 Bifrost has been great since the driver updates started making a big impact. Paired with the 12600k in my rig, things are fun! I did buy it off eBay from someone for $160, so it was hard to turn down. I'm glad i stumbled on it.
That's awesome that you got lucky through eBay. You got the 770 cheaper than I bought my 750 for. I know it's not the greatest card on the market but it sure does provide a bit of a bang for your buck. Thanks for joining the rest of us Arc-olytes.
I don't even listen or watch most of these bigger name "tech reviewers" anymore. They are all so out of touch with reality, basically if its not top end hardware, they shit on it. "Oh you poor peasant still using a 5600X and RX7600 in 2024".
That was the whole reason I started this channel. I wanted to showcase middle of the road benchmarks and reviews for us normies.
Rather have Arc than trash Radeon
Same, my old RX580 would just have random driver meltdowns for no reason. I don't have that with arc at all
I have the 8GB ARC A750 made by Intel.
yes it is a good card.
It's great now (that drivers are improved a lot) in pretty much any 1080p game I've played (I actually have 1200p monitors). I am not a ESports gamer or anything. Just casually gaming on Forza Motorsport, Forza Horizon, CP2077 and a couple other games. Most of the games I play are DX12 so that may skew the behavior of the card toward the best behavior of the ARC card.
however, I can play almost all games at high settings and at least 60fps. I don't really need or care for more, so a much more expensive card that can get 120 fps would be wasted on me. My monitors top out at 60fps. I really haven't had any stability problems with the card since last year. Definitely run this card with Resizable BAR (base address register) enabled. Most modern motherboards have this and it's already enabled. But if you have any performance issues with the card, check this first.
On the topic of FPS... I don't understand the obsession of FPS. Most movies or animation are played back at either 24fps or 30 fps. So 60 fps is twice as fast as most live action movies we watch. So 60 fps is good enough for me.
Without ReBar, it just tanks the card. I honestly forgot to mention that in the video, but I do have it enabled. I'm right there with you on not needing to be on the cutting edge of FPS limitations. I'm part of the Nintendo and Atari generation so anything about 8 bit I'm good lol. FPS only really matters in competitive games and some aesthetic aspects, I learned that with Rust on console. 10 FPS could make a difference in me losing a gun fight or not sometimes, not that I'm some aimbot level gamer anyway. If I'm running 60 FPS on 1080p, that's good enough for me.
Waiting for BattleMage before I decide anything.
At this point anyone is probably better off waiting at the least until we know pricing. If the price out battlemage the way arc was and with the performance increases it may just be a waste of time unless you absolutley need A GPU now.
Enjoying my a380 for gaming. Gotta know how to tweak game settings with low end cards.
Love to hear that, glad you joined us Arc-olytes
just got the Arc 770 and my god the drivers.. Even today it's not working correctly.
1st: HDR doesn't work, needs to turn off - on - off -on several times till it applies as it should.
2nd: Driver update froze the entire system, had to enter safe mode and remove drivers and hassle around, took 1 hour to sort it out.
3rd: just like my nvidia 4080S FE (but worse!) it dropps E-Arc sound. I need to press mute - unmute to get it to work again. No such issues on my 7900 GRE.
4th: anything GPU accelerated be it a launcher like Steam or a browser, the screen will flicker back and forth from picture - black - picture - black. Turning off GPU-acceleration solves this.
This is just less than two days of ownership 😅
Sheesh, I'm sorry to hear that. I have two questions...
1) Do you have ReBar enabled in your BIOS?
2) Have you run DDU to remove ALL traces of any previous GPU drivers?
@@RomanGodEpiclese All three computers have RE-bar enabled 👍🏻
This is a brand new computer, but the 770 behaved exactly the same on my other two.
I'm not giving up, but I expected a better experience this late in the Arc party 🥹
Sounds like some kind of hardware-defect/overheating to me.
@@lorsheckmolseh3345 it's 100% driver related, I can play games just fine it's just those things listed thats not working correctly. Like tonight HDR just worked when I logged in, success! :)
I'm considering this GPU. I think i can get it on second hand for 150€
The main appeal is the 16gb vram since i want to use Unreal engine 5 / blender / stable diffusion.
the a770 run better render time than amd 6800 (on blender).
Still need to check how it's doing on Unreal engine 5.
Tho the gpu issu are kinda scary since it will be my first PC.
I also want to play old game but this gpu does not like it which kinda suck
I don't think the driver issue really exists at this point, I was playing Once Human for two days before I realized that there was a day 1 driver and had no issues. The only time I ever have screen flickering, or a blackout is when I turn on my second monitor when I'm recording footage and it only last about 3 seconds. I also play a lot of older games myself like Black Flag, Division 1, and Warframe and I have had no issues. I think if you were to have a problem, it would be a higher chance that it was more of a hardware than software issue. Hope that helps
Hey Roman, thanks for sharing your experience and it being real life use cases! Been thinking about picking this card up for the cost. Was wondering if you had any tests done with a 1440p monitor and the a750?
I have not, it is in the works though. I have a few other upgrades I need to finish in the "Batcave" first but it is in the works.
I got an a770 just a couple months ago and it has been great! I got it bundled with ac mirage for free too, which lets me try xess (which is also great). My only complaint is horrible stuttering in dx10.
I got the same deal from newegg
Try using dxvk
I was looking for specks for the new FS 25 and found them on the Preorder page. For some reason I was not able to pre order. However, this is the difference in Minimal requirements.. really easy. FS 22 Processor: Intel Core i5-3330 or AMD FX-8320 to FS 25 Intel Core i5-6400 or AMD Ryzen 5 1400. FS 22 Graphics: Nvidia Geforce GTX 660, AMD Radeon R7 265 or better (min. 2 GB VRAM. FS 25 Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050 Ti, AMD Radeon RX 470 or better (min. 3 GB VRAM, DX12 support. Same OS and 8gb mim and HD space very doable. Ya know a RTX 4090 would be the best but above a GTX 1050 should be easy any RTX or RX GPU.or even Arc GPUs.
The Sparkle one clocks still around 320$ for the A770. It at least indicates it has 0dB fans now. But 225 Watt? Holy crap that is much. How much does it draw on idle - which seemed to be a problem as well as I remember.
In no way I would go for the A750 since it has 8 GB VRAM only. It is now priced similar to the RX 6600.
The Intel cards had tremendous problems of overpricing and still the A770 suffers IMO of tremendous overpricing. The A770 should cost around 250$, not more. But a good product if you ask me.
I own the RX 6600 and RX 6750 XT.
On these Intels I would not go for any else than the Sparkle brand.
About 40 watts on idle, I have my core power limit turned up at max and have never crossed 200. 180 I think it's the most I've seen, but my old rx580 ran that under load. I regret not buying the 770 but I didn't want to gamble too hard you know? In hindsight I should have but I'm still not disappointed in my choice.
@@RomanGodEpiclese Oh man. My RX 6600 runs 4 Watt on idle and the RX 6750 XT runs at 6 Watt on idle according to Adrenalin. That is on Windows 11. On my dual boot Linux Tuxedo OS, I have no way to check. The A750 is 12% stronger than the RX 6600 so it equals about the RX 6650 XT. So the RX 6650 XT would be as well with its 32 cores at 5 Watts let's say. The indeed high power draw on idle would be a problem in countries where power is expensive. I mean it is 5 Watts for an similar AMD card versus 40 Watts for the A750 Intel card. Then again "only" 8 GB of VRAM.
Today I would buy the RX 7600 XT 16 GB VRAM or the A770 from Intel.
As long as Intel keeps at it I do hope they can make a dent in the market. AMD and NVIDIA have obviously gotten contempt with their position. But for that to happen they need to catch up to at least AMD. Interesting video keep it up!
I'm hoping that battlemage solidifies that place, supposed to be amazing gains over Arc but it's all speculation. I really want Gen 2 to really step it up so they start making better price vs performance cards.
Ngl Intel Arch GPUs are interesting and definitely welcomed to improve to compete with amd and nvidia, intel should prioritize budget medium to low GPUs rather than compete witth Nvidia as the only other good value gpu manufactor is AMD
Completely agree, I hope they don't ruin the path that they are on with Battlemage. They sure aren't doing themselves any favors with the current CPU issues that they are having.
Thanks man!
Is it worth to buy A750 or A770 Instead of Vega 64?
I would say so, the Vega 64 is about the same as the 1080 give or take. Both Arc cards would be an improvement over that. Arc also offers AV1 in case you want to do some editing also, but with Battlemage knocking on the door I don't know if it would be worth upgrading right now unless you NEED to.
The sign of a good product is when you dont have to search for “is it good 😂
Not necessarily, due to the age of information there is always bad information out there. Even this video, my experience is not everyone's experience as you can see in the comments below someone has a broken card... but not everyone. That would cause me as a consumer to step back and ask if that is the general consensus or am I the odd duck out. Second, most reviewers are doing this with systems that cost twice as much as most setups leading to padded numbers must of us aren't going to get. Not all things are black and white.
@@RomanGodEpiclese Exactly, why would someone review on GTX 970 on a 12th gen i7 or a $1500 setup.
The system should match the card.
I agree, but with the disastrous launch of arc and not many people really talking about the improvements the card series has made there is still a lot of doubt. This was simply meant to put it out there for anyone interested in arc still that it has gone from a small dumpster fire to a relevant card. I think it's a great budget card and have had less problems with it that amd or Nvidia cards. But I always love talking with all of you about any and all of this. I do appreciate it.
Get an Asus (formerly Intel) Serpent Canyon with ARC770M (16GB VRAM) for 600-700 bucks. You won't regret it.
Total price for mine from scratch was about 800
Niko changed his name to Roman
Not sure who that is but this is my first and only channel
@@RomanGodEpiclese GTA IV reference
@@Koorvkungen I haven't played GTA since I still played on console. Thanks for clearing that up for me I feel less stupid now lol
switched to amd after a decade of a solid nvidia experience. switched mostly just to support a different gpu vendor. its been a letdown all around. driver timeouts in early 2024 were daily no matter the game, although now a little less common. tearing still happens with vsync on sometimes which boggles my mind. also fsr3 is less common to see than dlss. im very disappointed and have recently considered selling my 7600 xtx for an arc 770 or 4060.
I'd go with the 770 for the extra memory, providing you have a PCIe 4.0 x16 slot.
@@pazitor i actually do have a pci4 x16 slot even though my current gpu only supports 8x. im just worried of getting into an arc gpu and facing bad drivers again.
I would agree with @pazitor, I think the 770 would be the better choice in the long run.
@@RomanGodEpiclese are the drivers stable to you? we have the same cpu, 5600x
I can confidently say that there aren't really any driver issues anymore. There are some hiccups but not issues.