I use to go fishing behind the old land fill on wells mill road. Went night fishing one night in August for largemouth bass. It started to thunder and lightning so I started my one mile walk out by myself. Let me tell you this, I WILL NEVER EVER, EVER go back in those pine barrens at night by myself again. Those woods come alive with an energy that you can literally feel in your spine. If you’re into the paranormal then that’s where you wanna go. Good luck
I was born, raised and still live in the heart of the thickest part of the Pine Barrenss in Burlington County and you're absolutely right, you don't know unless you know. how unusual of a place it really is. I remember when this happened, I was living in hammonton at the time and going to my parents in Indian mills(which is the original name of shamong township). People are always wildly surprised by not only how big the pine barrrens are but how truly dense and isolated they are as well as the true eeriness of the place.
My husband, who grew up in New Providence, was creeped out by the Pine Barrens. He said it was a swamp and he REALLY didn’t like it there. And he was a big, strong guy who was usually never afraid of anything.
Perhaps!! This is what some folks do, when one passes, they can't live without the other's!!! Such is life !! So sads as they where so young's !! Hope the family gets closers ,as piece
I go to a survival school in the Pine Barrens and I remember the first time I went there I very quickly realized how easy it would be to get lost, just because it’s so dense and flat, so there’s nothing for you to orient yourself with. It all looks the exact same every where you turn. Luckily you’ll eventually get to the ocean or a town, but it could take awhile depending on where you’re at. Also, there’s an insane amount of ticks. Ticks>Jersey Devil.
I grew up and still live in Browns Mills, NJ. I have camped and spent many nights in the Pine Barrens. Knowing the folklore and the stories definitely makes it more spooky. I remember hearing about this case. It is extremely bizarre 😳 I hope the family gets some closure eventually. I doubt I spend any more nights camping alone out here after this case and not knowing what happened. Thanks for covering this. You did a great job 👏
I grew up on the fringes of the pine barrens and explored them a decent amount as I got older. As someone who has taken many Natural Resource Management courses and some SAR courses, I can confirm they're a very unique environment and searches are definitely an absolute nightmare in this environment. I've never done a "real" search but I can just imagine. It's not even that the terrain is high, hilly or taxing but the vegetation is extremely thick. The ground is extremely sandy and it makes for a lot of mud and just harder to walk. And honestly there is definitely an eerie feeling when driving alone through them at night or even walking among the trees alone. My parents still live in the area of Toms River and when I am visiting oftentimes I'm driving around visiting friends, etc. Oftentimes, I drive back to their house late at night and it is SUPER creepy. I absolutely detest it. People oftentimes think of NJ and think of the suburban/city environment but there are many beautiful parts of the state that are very rugged. The Pine Barrens is definitely the creepiest, IMO. Sad story and very bizarre.
I've hiked and camped alone and with my wife in the Pines for the last 50 years (never carring a weapon). All this crap about it being a scary and mysterious is BS. I've never felt fear or even nervous in the Pines. It's a place where you can become part of the landscape. If it scares you, don't come here, you're not welcome.
I live in the Pine Barrens, if you're not from the area or inexperienced, you can get lost very quickly. The underbrush is thick and full of insects. There are lower elevation spots that are basically swamp. You can fall into some of the swamps like they're quicksand, possibly even become engulfed.
Bryan, I did more reading on this. Asbury Press stated, "their bodies [were] heavily injured from sharp vegetation in the underbrush." From the known factors - gun was found unused, ATV hadn't turned over, the wife had trouble walking but left her cane at home, they had no cellphones, and there were some injuries - it seems to me something happened to one of them and the other refused to leave him/her. Despite being fairly close to home, they may not have realized it in the confusion. Such a sad story, but they passed away together - so some solace in this. Keep making great videos!
Very remote and very desolate, the mind plays tricks. Once, hiking in the fall through the dry leaves I happened to hear my steps being matched a short distance away by someone or something also stepping thru the leaves. When I stopped, the steps would stop. When I would start again, they would resume after my 2nd or third steps. May have just been the way the sound was bouncing off the scrub pines...but very strange.
@@tedmurphy710 I live here too. Ive gone through some places in the pines where I feared for my safety but shook it off as paranoia. Ive also felt I’ve heard someone behind me. Glad I’m not alone!
I spent a week in the Barrens a long time ago (I was at the Tracker School) and it was the most disorienting woods I've ever been in. It's so dense! I tried to keep track of the way in when the staff picked us up and brought us to camp, but it all looks the same (at least when it's your first time in it). It was super fascinating, though! Beautiful and unique! And scary, kinda! Lol!
About extended tox screens. I retired from a a major company that did all kinds of biological testing including toxicology screens. While we didn't do extended forensic tox screens, I was in contact with companies that did. That type of testing does take longer, but shouldn't take a year. A few months at most. Besides there are substances that can kill you quickly and leave little or no trace in the body, since they are things that normally occur in the body and they would be metabolized too quickly to detect.
@@mikebond6328 Two that come to mind are insulin and succinyl choline. An overdose of insulin can kill you and would be metabolized by the the body as it dies. Succinyl choline is normally used to stop a person's breathing when it is necessary to innovate a person in hospital. It also is rapidly metabolized by the body.
I grew up in Ocean County in Lakewood, New Jersey and lived in Pine Acres, and you're right about the legends about the Jersey devil, and the creepy stories about the mob. I played in the woods as a child and used to walk the tracks into town and the stories about the Jersey devil always creeped me out!
My condolences to their family and friends. It’s horrible losing your loved ones but having no answers or closure….I can’t imagine how awful that would feel. Thank you for covering this, Brian.
I was living in NJ for a couple months and ended up hiking 9 miles home after a job interview. Because obviously that is a good idea with no food/water and in an unfamiliar area. The foliage was so dense, but mostly it was pleasant, just picking berries and strolling along, whistling with the birds. Suddenly felt my hair stand up. Through the treeline saw a shack that was barely standing. I've never felt like that, it was like I needed to get closer, the best description would be a nicotine craving? Just this strange electric desire. I spent almost 20 minutes standing there staring at it. Suddenly it hit me, I haven't heard a bird in a while, even the cicadas went silent. That snapped me out of my trance. I started walking away and when I looked back at the shack... it was gone. Because I'm a dumbass I went back to see where tf this thing went. After pacing back and forth a few times i realized what was up. The shack was actually a lot bigger and further away than it seemed because of some funky little hills, insanely deep ditches and much older/larger trees growing around it. The building was only visible along about 7-8 feet of road from the nearest side. Any other position and it disappeared entirely. If you were in a car (this was on along a highway with no walking path) you would never even notice it. The only part I can't explain is my sudden irrational urge to run over to the creepy shack. I remember thinking "Why do you want this so much? Something is really wrong. You CANT go no matter how badly you want to." Then snapping out of it into dead silence.
I'm originally from New Egypt, NJ born and raised. Me my buddies would frequent the pines through Colliers Mills hunting/wheelin. Lots of people would go missing in the pines on hikes. Everything looks the same and gets dark in there really quick. Very easy to get lost.
IVE Walked and hunted the pines my entire life. You can get turned around and lost easily if you dont keep your wits about you. Markers and compass is mandatory if you dont know the woods your in. Twenty hrs ago a friend of mine was murdered in his tree stand we've never heard they found his killer.
Thank you for this video and for saying "only sixty" i am there and SO appreciate you. I have been in country that dense. It is hard to move much on foot. Keep being yourself and i enjoy your videos. I also wanted to say that i have visited places that had that eerie feel. When that hair stands up on back of your neck then you need listen to your body. Hey Bryan thanks for sticking to the end.... dont work too hard. We live in Arkansas so come see us!
I recalled a time when I lived in New Jersey. I had worked at a nursing home and befriended one of the nurses there. She lived near the Pine Barrens, and her home was situated in a wooded area with no neighbors living close by. Anyway at that time, she told me of a event that had happened to her a few weeks prior. As she was about to enter her car, a creature about two feet long jumped on her car, then ran on top of it before running deeper into the woods. She described it as looking like a goblin. She couldn’t find any other word for it. The event left her terrified. She avoids going out at night alone even though her encounter happened in the morning.
No apologies necessary, but please stay healthy, that is what is most important. Thanks for all of the great work you always put into this channel, you are amazing!
Hey Bryan - You really don’t need to apologize so much. :) You go above and beyond just doing what you do. Everyone appreciates your videos when you can do them - when you can’t do them - not a problem. No one is thinking anything that you have to apologize for (or explain)!
Agreed, Bryan has obviously had some problems from what I hear being new to his channel. No need as you say for any apologies. He always covers cases so sympathetically ❤
I've have never been there but have heard the same thing about just how spooky that area is. There are also other cryptids in the area. Please keep us updated. Thanks so much.
Yes..sasquatch is real and sasquatch does not need the hikers and campers to believe in them for them to be real. This sounds like an Aliens abduction case.
@@kellytourigny4228 Sasquatch has nothing to do with aliens. Sounds more like a suicide, maybe the lady was diagnosed with MS and the gentleman had a life ending diagnosis as well or maybe an accidental poisoning.
thoroughly enjoyed this story as the Pine Barrens ARE very strange indeed,Have seen other videos on the Pine Barrens so it is of interest to me on that regard Sorry to the family losing their parents like that. I do believe something strange and perhaps evil thing happened to them ...and we probably will never know either I enjoy yr videos and watch them as they come so don't sweat the small stuff for us viewers as we aren't here to stress u out on yr uploads!hope yr feeling better now. Katie
Great Video, I live near this area and didn't hear about this. The Pine Barrens have a lot of mysteries out there, and I've hunted near there for 40 years plus years. Nice Job, and Thanks!
Bryan great video. Thank you for always bringing us new and different stories. This one really hit close to home. I grew up in Salem and these stories were fascinating and terrifying to hear as a child. I hope your health gets better soon, the trails are calling! Take care
Makes me think of David Paulides Missing 411 books. Many people have gone missing in national forests, large scale searches turn up nothing, only to have the person found later in an area previously searched. Sometimes they’re never found, and in many cases rain hampers the search.
Thank you for your work, Bryan! For every one negative person out there, remember there are 1000 people who love your channel and appreciate all you do.
I had never heard of the Pine Barrens and I looked it up. What an interesting history. I could see why there would be some strange energy there. I grew up in Southern New England and loved roaming the woods. There were many rock walls and old foundations from long abandoned homes. They always piqued my curiosity.
Since you mentioned rock walls let me tell you about something. Those rock walls you're talking about are all over Eastern Pennsylvania New Jersey Connecticut and Southern parts of New England. I had asked my father about those walls and he had told me when the farmers were clearing the land that's where they stacked the stones well I have since found out those walls made out of that gray fieldstone or at least most of them. The walls were not all made by farmers for the most part. Someone in the early 1800s did some research on those walls and a lot of those old timers were still alive and most of them were not made by farmers. We had one right in back of our house in Bergen county New Jersey. they were all over the place. The really Strange thing is: if you ever noticed those walls start from nowhere then suddenly stop for no reason. Some of the walls actually have a little cove built in them where people can rest or get out of the weather. None of the local Indians like the lenape in New Jersey or the other Indian tribes up in New England build those walls. If you search on RUclips about the walls you'll get a lot of detailed information. Nobody has any idea who built those walls and the other strange rock formations.
@@jasguy2715 That is so interesting. I grew up in Connecticut on 60 acres on the Massachusetts border and we had old rock walls running through the woods. My Dad told me the same thing. What do you mean by a "little cold" built in? I will do some searching online. Thanks so much for the information.
@@mountainwench7763 I meant to say a little cove built in to the rock wall. I did a lot of research on this I'm sure there's a few here and there that were built by Farmers but most of them absolutely were not and it's very very strange they start from nowhere and then they end to nowhere with no rhyme or reason. They've also found alter stones in Connecticut I believe and Massachusetts. a mini stonehedge either in Vermont or New Hampshire that lines up with the one in the UK. I lived on the side of the ramapo mountains in New Jersey in a town called Franklin lakes. the area where our house was built, I know they were dwellings there hundreds of years ago or so but the topography the land was kind of bumpy hilly and there was no attempt to level the land out. That area certainly wasn't conducive to farming except small plots. I don't know why anybody would go through the bother of stacking those field stones. Most of those gray field stones are underneath the ground so why somebody went through the bother of transporting them I don't know. there's a lot that we don't know about who is here in this country long ago. PS I made a lot of mistakes in my previous post because of voice typing so I made the corrections it'll make more sense now.
I hiked the Appalachian trail through NJ and came upon a bunch of them. They are fascinating. I always thought they were boundary walls for property owners. We were looking into moving to Oakland and noticed a bunch there as well.
Thank you Byran for all your efforts. So much appreciated. May God bless the searchers, and you. You are making sure to keep these poor lost ones memory alive. I will pray for your health to improve.
Hey Bryan, Your videos and narration are getting better with each video. Excellent one about Yosemite. This case is somewhat reminiscent of the Gerrish family case. Yes, please do Hannah Upp!
I grew up during my younger yrs in Burlington county and i know exactly what your talking about and being in the Pineys! Very creepy, just driving through on the way to the shore was even sketchy sometimes! Good video, def one of those mysteries they may never be solved.
I Agree. I Do Not like the Pines At All. Only been there once many moons ago and it was Very Disturbing to me.😬 And Yes driving through is Quite a Eerie feeling...like you are being watched by many 👀 and it seems the Pines are Never ending. Just Creepy.
Thank you for defending them in your words of not jumping to conclusions ! Your a wonderful compassionate person - thank you for the learning information 🌞
I grew up in Northeastern New Jersey but stories about this place were very well known even up there. It’s a very desolate place. Perfect environment for people who want to live off the grid. Those are the people you don’t want to run into.
Why ?...seems a backwards way off thinking...people who want too live as far away from other humans are clearly not the predative types..if your a killer or a psyco or a bad person you stay around other humans as they are your prey...If somebody goes off into the woods it means they want too be left alone and just like other animals would rather just stay away from you than hurt you..
@@samanthab1923 The "Jackson Whites", which by the way calling them that is a kin to a racial slur-That's North Jersey. They're in Passaic/Bergen county and South NY state. Nowhere near the pine barrens. There's nothing really remarkable/ interesting about them. All they are is racially mixed people, usually very poor, living in the woods. They're not isolated, there not imbred and they don't have enough Native American genetics to be declared a tribe. Truthfully, their situation is kinda sad. Idk what you know about them, but it's probably a bunch of B.S.
I have been in Burlington county all my life and live right at the edge of the pine barrens. I absolutely love the pines and camping out there is so relaxing to me because it's so dark & quiet out there in the state parks but it can definitely be creepy in spots! Have you hiked the Batona Trail? I've done parts on day hikes but never did a thru hike of it. One day maybe I'll do it.Love your videos!
@@shannsimms9072 I'm sure that with the pines being so big an area that there are people out there that choose to not deal with society. I've never come across any but I'm sure there are some. Why do you ask?
We got something similar but with alligators and snakes where I live in Georgia close to the swamps near Waycross GA. I live way out in the woods, I love it my driveway is a 400 yards off a less traveled road plus its got a swinging gate so if I see a car coming up my driveway and it ain't family you ain't lost and I know something is up.
@@ritamae2474 well my grandmother owns a property out there. Like it's legit just a shack on a piece of property in the woods. But I saw a really terrifying woman in tatters in the woods out there. She wasn't like a lost old woman she was staring at me really kinda angry. And anyway I ran back up to the shack thing so fast and my aunt's frie d (who lives a few miles down the road) told me that there are people who just live out there. Sometimes they steal from her clothesline or her garden but other than that don't bother people much. Scared the shit out of me though.
Bryan, I'm a local NJ resident living in Burlington County. I had followed this story from the start. The last report was about autopsies on the couple. That was approximately 23 months ago as of Sept. 2022 I check back frequently to see if this case has any updates. I have found none. Have you ever thought about why this information was not released to the public? It's more baffling with nothing being reported.
Thank you for all of the stories that you post! I enjoy watching the true crime and disappearance stories. Most all of the cases that you cover are not stories that I have seen anywhere else. I really appreciate what you are doing, trying to get help and closure for these families. You are such a wonderful soul trying to investigate and bring awareness to everyone. Thank you!
It’s one of those cases where it will never be solved if they did toxicology and nothing odd was in their systems. Very sad and strange. There’s so many odd encounters that people are reporting in the forest and National Parks.
Great episode! I grew up in Philadelphia, PA. And the Pine Barrens are right over the bridge from Philly into Jersey and you are correct! It’s definitely a creepy area especially at night when it’s getting dark and you can get easily lost on those hundreds or thousands of trails back in there. This case is definitely strange with no cause of death and not just one them passing away but both! That’s weird! Keep up the great work! Always look forward to a new episode! Take care! Frank from Philadelphia, PA.
I was born in Camden New Jersey and lived in Camden county for a while also lived in Philadelphia for a while and I would choose the pine barons over those cities anytime
Interesting how all of the comments by those of us living near the Pine Barrens share the same sentiment......it's a place with a very creepy,negative vibe. Dark energy........we agree with you Bryan~!!
I agree and that's why I said: "I know many won't understand the true feeling" because it really is a creepy area IMHO. Like I said I would rather camp alone pretty much anywhere else in the US alone but there.
Firstly I think a majority of us that watch your content care&want to know your doing ok and a bit about what your doing and how your doing can't be easy working then finding the time to put content out with everything else outside work that needs attention. This certainly is a bizarre case to lose one parent is bad enough to lose two at the same time is awful I really hope the family get answers 🙏
I grew up in South Jersey on the edge of the Pine Barrens. I love the place, but the amount of weird s#%t I’ve experienced first-hand traveling through the pine barrens is crazy.
As a Boy Scout I used to camp near a town called Chatsworth, NJ, in the Pine Barrens. You are absolutely right about the eerie feeling that comes over you while in this area.
Bryan, not all of us are heartless, your family, job and health should come first!! You don't need to ever apologize, when you have time to upload a video, not to worry, we will be waiting. Great video as always, one of the worst places to be lost, what a shame, my thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends.
Different land has different energy. I know what you mean, Bryan. You can feel it in your whole being when an area feels "eerie," if you are sensitive and out in nature a lot.
It reminds me of the young family, with their dog, who were all found passed away? However if the couple had provisions on the ATV and were quite close to their home it is very odd indeed. 🙏🙌
Yes! Exactly what went through my mind the moment I heard about the part describing how they were found! Even in that case I truly believe they don't have a clue as to what happened to that family, the final conclusion is such a crock of you know what, as if they just came up with a theory that could possibly be scientifically confirmed, while if you actually look into what they are saying occurred, there has been not one incident of that happening to a human being ever on record, it's all theory and speculation when they couldn't figure out what happened to those poor people! It was put out only after how big the case got and they knew they needed some sort of answer to go on. Not one account of a human dying from this supposed toxic algae. And these people were highly knowledgeable about hiking and precautions, they were no novices. I'm glad someone else thought of that case as well. Have a wonderful weekend 🙌🏻
No way they all.died, including the dog, at the same place and time from heat strock. I love in a place with high temps in the summer (Mediterranean) and actually saw men working construction in 110 degrees outdoors. So, no, I don't buy the official explanation.
Don't ever apologize for having to work and take care of yourself!! Ever!! We are always here waiting for you and your amazing work and completely understand you have a life too!! Much love!! ❤😊 Thank you for your hard work!!!
The respect you show in these videos is admirable Bryan. We live in a world that is too judgmental, and too sensationalized. Your channel is refreshing and informative, keep it up.
Great video brudda also from NJ and can confirm the pine barrens are creepy as can be. Would love to help out your channel anyway possible love your content. You deserve a real following.
The Pine Barrons are the area where Tom Brown 'Tracker' grew up being trained by his Apache medicine man 'Grandfather' along with grandfather's grandson. In his books describing such training, he mentions playing the part of the 'Jersey Devil' . I can recommend his books for a good read, not the general Indian spirituality that stops short of embracing the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ... but embraces secondary non validated spiritual forces active in the wild. 'Tom Brown Tracker' and 'Way of the Scout' are the main two to begin the stories he relates in episode fashion. Whats nice about it is he relates what he actually went through with grandfather's grandson.
Well I like in Philly which is an hour or two drive to the pine barrens. And my grandmother owns a plot of land like right in the pine barrens with a crappy little shack on it. One time while I was there with my aunt just checking on the property I walked about 5-10 minutes Into the woods and saw an old woman out there. She was wearing basically what looked like a nuns habit but all tattered and mismatched. And she was just staring at me kinda mean but more surprised to see me. I got scared and ran back to the property in about a minute.
When I got back to the property my aunt and was with her friend Alice who lives a few miles down the road from there. Alice told me that that's not unusual. There are people who live deep in the pines and occasionally they will steal some clothes off her line or stuff from her garden. It's not supernatural but there definitely is a clan of people with no real contact with the outside world out there living in the woods and have been for over 100 years. apparently anyone who lives in that area are aware of them.
I wonder if they wiped out on their ATV and were more injured than they thought they were. I mention it because a common injury with atv's is a bruised or ruptured spleen when the handlebars clip under the ribcage (only one option of many). They could have been bleeding internally with relatively few external injuries and just started feeling really tired, decided to rest for a minute and passed in their sleep. I couldn't get a good gauge of how long the couple were deceased before they were found and just how much decomposition had happened so perhaps this has already been ruled out? You got me interested in the Pine Barrens! We have an ancient forest here in central Florida. It's unnamed as far as I know but part of it stretches into Big Tree Park. The main part of the forest is in a place called the Environmental Studies Center and is Black Hammock woods. Cypress trees 300-1000 years old scatter within. It truely feels like an ancient land and is about as dense as astroturf. I'm curious how the Pine Barrens would compare?
I love your videos I've watched almost of them. I grew up in Paterson NJ, Passaic County my whole life and its more of a city environment in fact its a bad area but i had a friend who lived in Camden NJ and moved to his grandparents not too far from the Pine Barrens and i would visit him during the summer weeks at a time and it was beautiful, such a different type of environment I was used too except at night i never went near any woods at night🌙. I had a feeling it would somehow swallow me up and I would never be seen again. I mean, I was a teenager, but even now I still get weird feelings about certain places and im in my thirties. Finally your right about the legends even in Paterson alot of things were named after Devils, we had certain areas we nicknamed like Devils park and Devils Night (the night before Halloween 🎃) and downtown has its own Italian section we always thought they were the mob cuz of Sopranos they even filmed some parts by where i lived in that very section.
Good job on this story. We are from NJ and have been following the story. It's just SO odd. I heard that they were found in a thicket of thorns - which is weird. I also heard something about a possible meth lab nearby - but not confirmed. We just camped in the Pine Barrens last week and will be putting up more videos on our channel (still editing). But you are right - there is something that feels SO strange in the Pine Barrens.
Born and raised in South Jersey. Been to the Pine Barrens many many times in the late 70's to the mid 80's. There was an area that is a clearing & very sandy. We use to build a giant bonfire and drink. Never had anything happen to any of us (usually a group of 20 or more) but man it was very creepy. We ALWAYS made sure the fire was completely out before we left.
Very well told story! I learned some terms in the story. I really appreciate that you shared how you felt about the Pine Barrons based on your own experiences growing up in the area. Wow! What adventures you’ve had!!
Theory: Loraine passed in their home from natural causes, Gary did not want to live without her. Decided they'd pass on together in their favorite place but figured they'd be found easily if near their home. Road out with her on the back of the ATV, parked laid her down and then laid next to her, letting himself pass on in his grief from exposure.
Heat, cold, and dehydration can kill quickly. Something must have happened to the husband first, and she couldn't walk without her cane (and they forgot it so she didn't have it) so she had to stay put, and then succumbed soon after. Dehydration is very common in these scenarios.
Call in Dr. G...she does brilliant autopsies. (I believe she's retired, but from watching her I know that there always has to be a cause of death, even if not at first apparent.) I hope an answer as to why they died is forthcoming!
Maybe it was a freak occurrence where they died from different things such as a stroke and another a heart attack? I am suspicious of foul play. I hope they check to see if there is any indication of strangulation or something telling
@@whitedragoness23 not that I could find on RUclips. My guess would either be like the happy life our work here is done type suicide or medical emergency In one causes like a heart attack in the other
Fascinating story today, Bryan. :) Yes very tragic too. I have also indeed heard many strange stories about the Pine Barrens. I am glad though that you spoke about the positive part of the park too though as to be balanced. I think parks can be both beautiful and at the same time have a dark side too. Great vid, overall. :)
Such a very odd story and thank you for posting. Speaking of eerie stories, I grew up in SJ and my 1st exposure to the NJ devil was at elementary school. Our teacher had several books on the subject and would read them to us during our last hour of school. The stories scared some of us so much we didn't want to go out of our homes after dark 😄
Good video ! I have spent a lot of time in the pine barrens and do agree with you when you say it’s creepy .. There is just a strange feeling that you get sometimes and it’s unexplainable.. I’ve been out there fishing or hiking alone and just out of nowhere get this feeling that it’s time to go and I can’t get to my vehicle fast enough ..to make matters worse there is very little cell phone service which sucks because you can be in the middle of following directions or using a trail map and then it’s gone ..
I live here too and I know the exact feeling you describe. Ive gone through some places in the pines where I feared for my safety but shook it off as paranoia. Glad I’m not alone!
I grew up in the heart ot the pines. The spooky part is when you are walking through the pines and all of a sudden there is not a sound. No animals nothing. When you keep walking ithe noises fade back slowly.
So sad. Maybe one passed away from a heartache? And the other lay next to them and passed from exposure because they didn't want to leave them or where unable to because of mobility. I hope they're family find peace and answers.
Good stuff once again. It's always a relief listening to Bryan. He takes you away from the daily crazy life ie politics. The worst thing about Bryan is when his stories are over.
I hope everything is well. yes I grew up in the same area that you are talking about the Pine Barrens I live next to fort Dix McGuire Air Force Base super Fortress I have hunted in the Pine Barrens I have heard sounds that you couldn't believe out there very spooky but I have to say I love the Pine Barrens
I'm also from the area, Browns Mills, Pemberton to Mt Holly and have spent a lot of time in pines, but it White's bogs where I felt the most uncomfortable .. never liked being there at night
Thank you for wonderful narration clear concise and professionally presented. RIP Lorraine and Gary. Sincere condolences to the family and friends. This is definitely a strange case. Does anyone know if they were employed by any company/govt agency dealing with sensitive/personal information. I'm really baffled by this case. I'm going to keep an eye open for updates on this case.
I’ve spent months in the pine barrens. Camping in many areas. Never had any weird things happen. We had private camp sites that no one ever visited. Loved the pinneys
I use to go fishing behind the old land fill on wells mill road. Went night fishing one night in August for largemouth bass. It started to thunder and lightning so I started my one mile walk out by myself. Let me tell you this, I WILL NEVER EVER, EVER go back in those pine barrens at night by myself again. Those woods come alive with an energy that you can literally feel in your spine. If you’re into the paranormal then that’s where you wanna go. Good luck
I was born, raised and still live in the heart of the thickest part of the Pine Barrenss in Burlington County and you're absolutely right, you don't know unless you know. how unusual of a place it really is. I remember when this happened, I was living in hammonton at the time and going to my parents in Indian mills(which is the original name of shamong township). People are always wildly surprised by not only how big the pine barrrens are but how truly dense and isolated they are as well as the true eeriness of the place.
My husband, who grew up in New Providence, was creeped out by the Pine Barrens. He said it was a swamp and he REALLY didn’t like it there. And he was a big, strong guy who was usually never afraid of anything.
Elizabeth...
The Pine Barrens isn't a swamp, altho it does have several bodies of (cedar) water that do run thur it.
It's mainly woods & forest.
Could be poison mushrooms
Then I'm gonna follow what you are saying...it's off my bucket list now!
Perhaps!! This is what some folks do, when one passes, they can't live without the other's!!! Such is life !! So sads as they where so young's !! Hope the family gets closers ,as piece
He could’ve meant “swamp” figuratively. The area is a sandy coastal plain and often very muddy.
I go to a survival school in the Pine Barrens and I remember the first time I went there I very quickly realized how easy it would be to get lost, just because it’s so dense and flat, so there’s nothing for you to orient yourself with. It all looks the exact same every where you turn. Luckily you’ll eventually get to the ocean or a town, but it could take awhile depending on where you’re at. Also, there’s an insane amount of ticks. Ticks>Jersey Devil.
THE JERSEY TICK doesn't quite have the same tourism ring
Dont forget swarms of gnats , no see-ums, chiggers, and green heads. Plus the one step forward half step back sand. That being said I still love it
And how about those horse flys .. and those damn chiggers!
Why hasn't anyone mentioned, the rituals that happen deep in the Pine Barrens or the mysterious Blue Hole?
@@fabledfantasty7343 because that’s the first rule of doing rituals in the Pine Barrens, we don’t talk about it. I mean they, not we🤭🤫
You did a great job covering this bizarre story. You're always so sensitive to the victims and their families.
Yes avoids real facts to be sensitive..... go jump
Yeah, my heart really goes out to the families and loved ones
The Pine 🌲 Barrons are my Jawn
Im from Redbank NJ ! I grew up on the scary stories of the pine barrens!!! The Jersey shore was a super place in the early 70’s!!
I lived in Little Silver in the 70s. You are right, the shore was great. I loved living there
I'm not much of an outdoorsman but this channel has such a nice level of understanding and compassion
I grew up and still live in Browns Mills, NJ. I have camped and spent many nights in the Pine Barrens. Knowing the folklore and the stories definitely makes it more spooky. I remember hearing about this case. It is extremely bizarre 😳 I hope the family gets some closure eventually. I doubt I spend any more nights camping alone out here after this case and not knowing what happened. Thanks for covering this. You did a great job 👏
I grew up on the fringes of the pine barrens and explored them a decent amount as I got older. As someone who has taken many Natural Resource Management courses and some SAR courses, I can confirm they're a very unique environment and searches are definitely an absolute nightmare in this environment. I've never done a "real" search but I can just imagine. It's not even that the terrain is high, hilly or taxing but the vegetation is extremely thick. The ground is extremely sandy and it makes for a lot of mud and just harder to walk. And honestly there is definitely an eerie feeling when driving alone through them at night or even walking among the trees alone. My parents still live in the area of Toms River and when I am visiting oftentimes I'm driving around visiting friends, etc. Oftentimes, I drive back to their house late at night and it is SUPER creepy. I absolutely detest it. People oftentimes think of NJ and think of the suburban/city environment but there are many beautiful parts of the state that are very rugged. The Pine Barrens is definitely the creepiest, IMO. Sad story and very bizarre.
Jst imagine🙄
You ever explore the famous haunted spots in Monmouth County ?
Barry Zeldin's case is very strange.
I was in an area that looked like it had solid ground, but nope it was deep water full of tree roots and covered in leaves.
I've hiked and camped alone and with my wife in the Pines for the last 50 years (never carring a weapon). All this crap about it being a scary and mysterious is BS. I've never felt fear or even nervous in the Pines. It's a place where you can become part of the landscape. If it scares you, don't come here, you're not welcome.
Woo-hoo! Bryan's back. We missed you, buddy.
I'm living in North NJ now but drove through south nj a lot. The Pine Barren area is creepy as hell.
I live in the Pine Barrens, if you're not from the area or inexperienced, you can get lost very quickly. The underbrush is thick and full of insects. There are lower elevation spots that are basically swamp. You can fall into some of the swamps like they're quicksand, possibly even become engulfed.
Bryan, I did more reading on this. Asbury Press stated, "their bodies [were] heavily injured from sharp vegetation in the underbrush." From the known factors - gun was found unused, ATV hadn't turned over, the wife had trouble walking but left her cane at home, they had no cellphones, and there were some injuries - it seems to me something happened to one of them and the other refused to leave him/her. Despite being fairly close to home, they may not have realized it in the confusion. Such a sad story, but they passed away together - so some solace in this. Keep making great videos!
I hike the Pine Barrens often and don’t find it spooky at all but it is very easy to get lost. To me it’s the nicest place in NJ
Very remote and very desolate, the mind plays tricks. Once, hiking in the fall through the dry leaves I happened to hear my steps being matched a short distance away by someone or something also stepping thru the leaves. When I stopped, the steps would stop. When I would start again, they would resume after my 2nd or third steps. May have just been the way the sound was bouncing off the scrub pines...but very strange.
@@tedmurphy710 I live here too. Ive gone through some places in the pines where I feared for my safety but shook it off as paranoia. Ive also felt I’ve heard someone behind me. Glad I’m not alone!
I spent a week in the Barrens a long time ago (I was at the Tracker School) and it was the most disorienting woods I've ever been in. It's so dense! I tried to keep track of the way in when the staff picked us up and brought us to camp, but it all looks the same (at least when it's your first time in it). It was super fascinating, though! Beautiful and unique! And scary, kinda! Lol!
The Pine Barrens episode on the Sopranos…. that was so great!
About extended tox screens. I retired from a a major company that did all kinds of biological testing including toxicology screens. While we didn't do extended forensic tox screens, I was in contact with companies that did. That type of testing does take longer, but shouldn't take a year. A few months at most. Besides there are substances that can kill you quickly and leave little or no trace in the body, since they are things that normally occur in the body and they would be metabolized too quickly to detect.
Mob hit
What are some examples of substances that would leave little or no trace in the body after death?
@@mikebond6328 Two that come to mind are insulin and succinyl choline. An overdose of insulin can kill you and would be metabolized by the the body as it dies. Succinyl choline is normally used to stop a person's breathing when it is necessary to innovate a person in hospital. It also is rapidly metabolized by the body.
@@christianeaster2776That’s interesting, but why wouldn’t they at least leave a note?
I grew up in Ocean County in Lakewood, New Jersey and lived in Pine Acres, and you're right about the legends about the Jersey devil, and the creepy stories about the mob. I played in the woods as a child and used to walk the tracks into town and the stories about the Jersey devil always creeped me out!
I live near the original Leeds house, Jersey Devil country. This was a very sad story here. Thanks for doing this one.
The Jersey Devil is actually mistaken for Bigfoot. Same behaviors
Lived in Neptune,Monmouth County my entire life. Just moved to Brick in Ocean County.
Has there been any talk of the cause of death? They said it’d take around 6 weeks back in December but I still don’t see anything
WOW I never knew this about Jersey !!! Years ago in the 60's my dad worked many weeks in Jersey from NY all the way to Maine .
@@Irish-King I'm your old neighbor... (Colts Neck born and raised) I also worked at JSUMC for 3 years... How is OC compared to Monmouth County?
My condolences to their family and friends. It’s horrible losing your loved ones but having no answers or closure….I can’t imagine how awful that would feel.
Thank you for covering this, Brian.
I was living in NJ for a couple months and ended up hiking 9 miles home after a job interview. Because obviously that is a good idea with no food/water and in an unfamiliar area.
The foliage was so dense, but mostly it was pleasant, just picking berries and strolling along, whistling with the birds. Suddenly felt my hair stand up. Through the treeline saw a shack that was barely standing. I've never felt like that, it was like I needed to get closer, the best description would be a nicotine craving? Just this strange electric desire.
I spent almost 20 minutes standing there staring at it. Suddenly it hit me, I haven't heard a bird in a while, even the cicadas went silent. That snapped me out of my trance. I started walking away and when I looked back at the shack... it was gone. Because I'm a dumbass I went back to see where tf this thing went.
After pacing back and forth a few times i realized what was up. The shack was actually a lot bigger and further away than it seemed because of some funky little hills, insanely deep ditches and much older/larger trees growing around it. The building was only visible along about 7-8 feet of road from the nearest side. Any other position and it disappeared entirely. If you were in a car (this was on along a highway with no walking path) you would never even notice it.
The only part I can't explain is my sudden irrational urge to run over to the creepy shack. I remember thinking "Why do you want this so much? Something is really wrong. You CANT go no matter how badly you want to." Then snapping out of it into dead silence.
I'm originally from New Egypt, NJ born and raised. Me my buddies would frequent the pines through Colliers Mills hunting/wheelin. Lots of people would go missing in the pines on hikes. Everything looks the same and gets dark in there really quick. Very easy to get lost.
IVE Walked and hunted the pines my entire life. You can get turned around and lost easily if you dont keep your wits about you. Markers and compass is mandatory if you dont know the woods your in. Twenty hrs ago a friend of mine was murdered in his tree stand we've never heard they found his killer.
Another very bizarre case. I too grew up around this area and there were always scary stories told to us about the Pine Barrens...
Thank you for this video and for saying "only sixty" i am there and SO appreciate you. I have been in country that dense. It is hard to move much on foot. Keep being yourself and i enjoy your videos.
I also wanted to say that i have visited places that had that eerie feel. When that hair stands up on back of your neck then you need listen to your body.
Hey Bryan thanks for sticking to the end.... dont work too hard. We live in Arkansas so come see us!
I am also sixty and I really appreciated his words, as well.
@@mountainwench7763 I am 60 next year !!!
60 is the new 50 !!!
@@IanP1963 Never slow down, never grow old!
You read my mind, Michelle!!!
So strange. I hope they didn’t suffer (much or for long). And I hope their family’s get answers. RIP to the Parker couple.
I recalled a time when I lived in New Jersey. I had worked at a nursing home and befriended one of the nurses there. She lived near the Pine Barrens, and her home was situated in a wooded area with no neighbors living close by. Anyway at that time, she told me of a event that had happened to her a few weeks prior. As she was about to enter her car, a creature about two feet long jumped on her car, then ran on top of it before running deeper into the woods. She described it as looking like a goblin. She couldn’t find any other word for it. The event left her terrified. She avoids going out at night alone even though her encounter happened in the morning.
No apologies necessary, but please stay healthy, that is what is most important. Thanks for all of the great work you always put into this channel, you are amazing!
Hey Bryan - You really don’t need to apologize so much. :) You go above and beyond just doing what you do. Everyone appreciates your videos when you can do them - when you can’t do them - not a problem. No one is thinking anything that you have to apologize for (or explain)!
Agreed, Bryan has obviously had some problems from what I hear being new to his channel. No need as you say for any apologies. He always covers cases so sympathetically ❤
I've have never been there but have heard the same thing about just how spooky that area is. There are also other cryptids in the area. Please keep us updated. Thanks so much.
Yes..sasquatch is real and sasquatch does not need the hikers and campers to believe in them for them to be real. This sounds like an Aliens abduction case.
@@kellytourigny4228 It sounds like people who died of exposure in dense woods.
@@kellytourigny4228 Sasquatch has nothing to do with aliens. Sounds more like a suicide, maybe the lady was diagnosed with MS and the gentleman had a life ending diagnosis as well or maybe an accidental poisoning.
@@missm1548 I’m not saying I believe in Bigfoot, but they collapsed from exposure together in the same exact spot, 250 yards from their house?
I always thought the jersey devil is a sasquatch...
thoroughly enjoyed this story as the Pine Barrens ARE very strange indeed,Have seen other videos on the Pine Barrens so it
is of interest to me on that regard Sorry to the family losing their parents like that. I do believe something strange and perhaps evil thing happened to them ...and we probably will never know either
I enjoy yr videos and watch them as they come so don't sweat the small stuff for us viewers as we aren't here to stress u out on yr uploads!hope yr feeling better now. Katie
I second that for Bryan!
The Barrens are no joke.
Great Video, I live near this area and didn't hear about this. The Pine Barrens have a lot of mysteries out there, and I've hunted near there for 40 years plus years. Nice Job, and Thanks!
We appreciate your hard work, you don’t need to apologize for not uploading! Reasonable people will understand that you have a personal life.
That's right. No one should have to explain their abcense or apologize. Your personal life is not our business. God bless you and your loved ones ❤️🙏🤗
I do Bryan I am Irish, appreciative of your good wishes for St Patricks day. Happy days to you.
Bryan great video. Thank you for always bringing us new and different stories. This one really hit close to home. I grew up in Salem and these stories were fascinating and terrifying to hear as a child. I hope your health gets better soon, the trails are calling! Take care
Thank you for another video. No worries about when you get videos, I'm thankful you are able to get videos out anytime. Thank you and take care.
Bryan, just take care of yourself. That’s the most important thing. Be safe, Take care😊
Makes me think of David Paulides Missing 411 books. Many people have gone missing in national forests, large scale searches turn up nothing, only to have the person found later in an area previously searched. Sometimes they’re never found, and in many cases rain hampers the search.
Thank you for your work, Bryan! For every one negative person out there, remember there are 1000 people who love your channel and appreciate all you do.
I had never heard of the Pine Barrens and I looked it up. What an interesting history. I could see why there would be some strange energy there. I grew up in Southern New England and loved roaming the woods. There were many rock walls and old foundations from long abandoned homes. They always piqued my curiosity.
Since you mentioned rock walls let me tell you about something. Those rock walls you're talking about are all over Eastern Pennsylvania New Jersey Connecticut and Southern parts of New England. I had asked my father about those walls and he had told me when the farmers were clearing the land that's where they stacked the stones well I have since found out those walls made out of that gray fieldstone or at least most of them. The walls were not all made by farmers for the most part. Someone in the early 1800s did some research on those walls and a lot of those old timers were still alive and most of them were not made by farmers. We had one right in back of our house in Bergen county New Jersey. they were all over the place. The really Strange thing is: if you ever noticed those walls start from nowhere then suddenly stop for no reason. Some of the walls actually have a little cove built in them where people can rest or get out of the weather. None of the local Indians like the lenape in New Jersey or the other Indian tribes up in New England build those walls. If you search on RUclips about the walls you'll get a lot of detailed information. Nobody has any idea who built those walls and the other strange rock formations.
@@jasguy2715 That is so interesting. I grew up in Connecticut on 60 acres on the Massachusetts border and we had old rock walls running through the woods. My Dad told me the same thing. What do you mean by a "little cold" built in? I will do some searching online. Thanks so much for the information.
@@mountainwench7763 I meant to say a little cove built in to the rock wall. I did a lot of research on this I'm sure there's a few here and there that were built by Farmers but most of them absolutely were not and it's very very strange they start from nowhere and then they end to nowhere with no rhyme or reason. They've also found alter stones in Connecticut I believe and Massachusetts. a mini stonehedge either in Vermont or New Hampshire that lines up with the one in the UK. I lived on the side of the ramapo mountains in New Jersey in a town called Franklin lakes. the area where our house was built, I know they were dwellings there hundreds of years ago or so but the topography the land was kind of bumpy hilly and there was no attempt to level the land out. That area certainly wasn't conducive to farming except small plots. I don't know why anybody would go through the bother of stacking those field stones. Most of those gray field stones are underneath the ground so why somebody went through the bother of transporting them I don't know. there's a lot that we don't know about who is here in this country long ago.
PS I made a lot of mistakes in my previous post because of voice typing so I made the corrections it'll make more sense now.
I hiked the Appalachian trail through NJ and came upon a bunch of them. They are fascinating. I always thought they were boundary walls for property owners. We were looking into moving to Oakland and noticed a bunch there as well.
@@jasguy2715 Yes, those stones are heavy! It was so much work to make those walls. It's a very intriguing mystery. Thanks so much for the information.
Thank you for the video. If you have an update, let us know. Take your time, get well, and stay safe. 🐞
I like your analysis - it’s always honest, direct, no nonsense. Thanks for an excellent post!
Thank you Byran for all your efforts. So much appreciated. May God bless the searchers, and you. You are making sure to keep these poor lost ones memory alive. I will pray for your health to improve.
Amen to your prayer
Hey Bryan,
Your videos and narration are getting better with each video. Excellent one about Yosemite. This case is somewhat reminiscent of the Gerrish family case. Yes, please do Hannah Upp!
Exactly. No discernible cause of death.
I grew up during my younger yrs in Burlington county and i know exactly what your talking about and being in the Pineys! Very creepy, just driving through on the way to the shore was even sketchy sometimes! Good video, def one of those mysteries they may never be solved.
Just carry a map and a compass and you'll be ok.in the Warren grove area just listen for the A 10s cannon going off
I Agree. I Do Not like the Pines At All. Only been there once many moons ago and it was Very Disturbing to me.😬 And Yes driving through is Quite a Eerie feeling...like you are being watched by many 👀 and it seems the Pines are Never ending. Just Creepy.
Chris...
"Pineys" is what the residents, that live in the Pine Barrens are called.
As kids, driving thru the dense Barrens it was all about spook n the devil!
Thank you Bryan - excellent.
A really strange story!
Hope your health issues get resolved soon.
Great to see you 😎! Another great sad story. Feeling so heartbroken for the family 😔💔. Always wondering the how what & why💔. Thanks for sharing 😉.
Thank you for defending them in your words of not jumping to conclusions ! Your a wonderful compassionate person - thank you for the learning information 🌞
Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to make videos for us! I appreciate you
Bryan, you are a very kind and caring narrator. Your videos are always thoughtful and thorough. Keep up the great work!
I grew up in Northeastern New Jersey but stories about this place were very well known even up there. It’s a very desolate place. Perfect environment for people who want to live off the grid. Those are the people you don’t want to run into.
Oh come on... we're not that bad after you get to know us
What about the Jackson Whites?
Why ?...seems a backwards way off thinking...people who want too live as far away from other humans are clearly not the predative types..if your a killer or a psyco or a bad person you stay around other humans as they are your prey...If somebody goes off into the woods it means they want too be left alone and just like other animals would rather just stay away from you than hurt you..
@@jshaw4757 Agreed.
@@samanthab1923 The "Jackson Whites", which by the way calling them that is a kin to a racial slur-That's North Jersey. They're in Passaic/Bergen county and South NY state. Nowhere near the pine barrens. There's nothing really remarkable/ interesting about them. All they are is racially mixed people, usually very poor, living in the woods. They're not isolated, there not imbred and they don't have enough Native American genetics to be declared a tribe. Truthfully, their situation is kinda sad. Idk what you know about them, but it's probably a bunch of B.S.
I have been in Burlington county all my life and live right at the edge of the pine barrens. I absolutely love the pines and camping out there is so relaxing to me because it's so dark & quiet out there in the state parks but it can definitely be creepy in spots! Have you hiked the Batona Trail? I've done parts on day hikes but never did a thru hike of it. One day maybe I'll do it.Love your videos!
Are you aware or have you ever heard of the people who live in those woods and are cut off from society?
@@shannsimms9072 I'm sure that with the pines being so big an area that there are people out there that choose to not deal with society. I've never come across any but I'm sure there are some. Why do you ask?
We got something similar but with alligators and snakes where I live in Georgia close to the swamps near Waycross GA. I live way out in the woods, I love it my driveway is a 400 yards off a less traveled road plus its got a swinging gate so if I see a car coming up my driveway and it ain't family you ain't lost and I know something is up.
@@ritamae2474 well my grandmother owns a property out there. Like it's legit just a shack on a piece of property in the woods. But I saw a really terrifying woman in tatters in the woods out there. She wasn't like a lost old woman she was staring at me really kinda angry. And anyway I ran back up to the shack thing so fast and my aunt's frie d (who lives a few miles down the road) told me that there are people who just live out there. Sometimes they steal from her clothesline or her garden but other than that don't bother people much. Scared the shit out of me though.
@@shannsimms9072 wow! I figured there were people who lived out there. Be pretty easy and you wouldn't get noticed because it's so vast
Bryan, I'm a local NJ resident living in Burlington County. I had followed this story from the start. The last report was about autopsies on the couple. That was approximately 23 months ago as of Sept. 2022
I check back frequently to see if this case has any updates. I have found none. Have you ever thought about why this information was not released to the public? It's more baffling with nothing being reported.
Your videos are worth waiting for!!!!!
Thank you for all of the stories that you post! I enjoy watching the true crime and disappearance stories. Most all of the cases that you cover are not stories that I have seen anywhere else. I really appreciate what you are doing, trying to get help and closure for these families. You are such a wonderful soul trying to investigate and bring awareness to everyone. Thank you!
It’s one of those cases where it will never be solved if they did toxicology and nothing odd was in their systems.
Very sad and strange.
There’s so many odd encounters that people are reporting in the forest and National Parks.
Most criminal types advance their skills as probably learned in meeting with other similar type people!!!
I bet they would've found unusual amounts of GHB in their systems if they had tested for it.....
@@reesedaniel5835 I agree!
@@reesedaniel5835 I guess GHB leaves the system fast? Is that not part of the toxicology panel?
Why in the Hell would you even say they had a sedative "GHB" IN them?
Great episode! I grew up in Philadelphia, PA. And the Pine Barrens are right over the bridge from Philly into Jersey and you are correct! It’s definitely a creepy area especially at night when it’s getting dark and you can get easily lost on those hundreds or thousands of trails back in there.
This case is definitely strange with no cause of death and not just one them passing away but both! That’s weird!
Keep up the great work! Always look forward to a new episode! Take care! Frank from Philadelphia, PA.
I only ever had one experience in the Barrens and that was while passing through them on the NJT circa October of 2014 - afterward I was a believer.
I was born in Camden New Jersey and lived in Camden county for a while also lived in Philadelphia for a while and I would choose the pine barons over those cities anytime
What was your experience?
Interesting how all of the comments by those of us living near the Pine Barrens share the same sentiment......it's a place with a very creepy,negative vibe. Dark energy........we agree with you Bryan~!!
I agree and that's why I said: "I know many won't understand the true feeling" because it really is a creepy area IMHO. Like I said I would rather camp alone pretty much anywhere else in the US alone but there.
I live here too. Ive gone through some places in the pines where I feared for my safety but shook it off as paranoia. Glad I’m not alone!
Firstly I think a majority of us that watch your content care&want to know your doing ok and a bit about what your doing and how your doing can't be easy working then finding the time to put content out with everything else outside work that needs attention.
This certainly is a bizarre case to lose one parent is bad enough to lose two at the same time is awful I really hope the family get answers 🙏
Yes, exactly.
I grew up in South Jersey on the edge of the Pine Barrens. I love the place, but the amount of weird s#%t I’ve experienced first-hand traveling through the pine barrens is crazy.
As a Boy Scout I used to camp near a town called Chatsworth, NJ, in the Pine Barrens. You are absolutely right about the eerie feeling that comes over you while in this area.
Sorry to hear of their passing, unsual, wonder what they saw and or experienced ... sounds like they were frightened by something ...
So glad I caught this tonight! I grew up in South Jersey.
Bryan, not all of us are heartless, your family, job and health should come first!! You don't need to ever apologize, when you have time to upload a video, not to worry, we will be waiting. Great video as always, one of the worst places to be lost, what a shame, my thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends.
I love your energy. It raises the mood and spreads energy in the evening.
Wow. That is a crazy story…and quite a mystery. Happy St. Patrick’s Day!
Different land has different energy. I know what you mean, Bryan. You can feel it in your whole being when an area feels "eerie," if you are sensitive and out in nature a lot.
Wow I live in Ocean County And I didn’t here this story. Thanks for such an intriguing story.
It reminds me of the young family, with their dog, who were all found passed away? However if the couple had provisions on the ATV and were quite close to their home it is very odd indeed. 🙏🙌
The case you mentioned was believed to be heat stroke. It was so hot and they didn't sound prepared (couple , baby and dog).
@@earnold1896 yes. 🙏🙌
Yes! Exactly what went through my mind the moment I heard about the part describing how they were found! Even in that case I truly believe they don't have a clue as to what happened to that family, the final conclusion is such a crock of you know what, as if they just came up with a theory that could possibly be scientifically confirmed, while if you actually look into what they are saying occurred, there has been not one incident of that happening to a human being ever on record, it's all theory and speculation when they couldn't figure out what happened to those poor people! It was put out only after how big the case got and they knew they needed some sort of answer to go on. Not one account of a human dying from this supposed toxic algae. And these people were highly knowledgeable about hiking and precautions, they were no novices. I'm glad someone else thought of that case as well. Have a wonderful weekend 🙌🏻
Yes , i thought of the Gerrish family straight away , too !!.
No way they all.died, including the dog, at the same place and time from heat strock. I love in a place with high temps in the summer (Mediterranean) and actually saw men working construction in 110 degrees outdoors. So, no, I don't buy the official explanation.
Don't ever apologize for having to work and take care of yourself!! Ever!! We are always here waiting for you and your amazing work and completely understand you have a life too!!
Much love!! ❤😊
Thank you for your hard work!!!
Bless you for all you do. I love the respect you show.
The respect you show in these videos is admirable Bryan. We live in a world that is too judgmental, and too sensationalized. Your channel is refreshing and informative, keep it up.
Great video brudda also from NJ and can confirm the pine barrens are creepy as can be. Would love to help out your channel anyway possible love your content. You deserve a real following.
The Pine Barrons are the area where Tom Brown 'Tracker' grew up being trained by his Apache medicine man 'Grandfather' along with grandfather's grandson. In his books describing such training, he mentions playing the part of the 'Jersey Devil' . I can recommend his books for a good read, not the general Indian spirituality that stops short of embracing the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit ... but embraces secondary non validated spiritual forces active in the wild. 'Tom Brown Tracker' and 'Way of the Scout' are the main two to begin the stories he relates in episode fashion. Whats nice about it is he relates what he actually went through with grandfather's grandson.
I have absolutely seen some terrifying things in the pine barrens
Like what?
Well I like in Philly which is an hour or two drive to the pine barrens. And my grandmother owns a plot of land like right in the pine barrens with a crappy little shack on it. One time while I was there with my aunt just checking on the property I walked about 5-10 minutes Into the woods and saw an old woman out there. She was wearing basically what looked like a nuns habit but all tattered and mismatched. And she was just staring at me kinda mean but more surprised to see me. I got scared and ran back to the property in about a minute.
When I got back to the property my aunt and was with her friend Alice who lives a few miles down the road from there. Alice told me that that's not unusual. There are people who live deep in the pines and occasionally they will steal some clothes off her line or stuff from her garden. It's not supernatural but there definitely is a clan of people with no real contact with the outside world out there living in the woods and have been for over 100 years. apparently anyone who lives in that area are aware of them.
You said things...keep going. Don't make sht up tho
I wonder if they wiped out on their ATV and were more injured than they thought they were. I mention it because a common injury with atv's is a bruised or ruptured spleen when the handlebars clip under the ribcage (only one option of many). They could have been bleeding internally with relatively few external injuries and just started feeling really tired, decided to rest for a minute and passed in their sleep.
I couldn't get a good gauge of how long the couple were deceased before they were found and just how much decomposition had happened so perhaps this has already been ruled out?
You got me interested in the Pine Barrens! We have an ancient forest here in central Florida. It's unnamed as far as I know but part of it stretches into Big Tree Park. The main part of the forest is in a place called the Environmental Studies Center and is Black Hammock woods. Cypress trees 300-1000 years old scatter within. It truely feels like an ancient land and is about as dense as astroturf. I'm curious how the Pine Barrens would compare?
Impressived with your respectful way and thorough research. A beautiful couple to be together on into eternity ❤
I love your videos I've watched almost of them. I grew up in Paterson NJ, Passaic County my whole life and its more of a city environment in fact its a bad area but i had a friend who lived in Camden NJ and moved to his grandparents not too far from the Pine Barrens and i would visit him during the summer weeks at a time and it was beautiful, such a different type of environment I was used too except at night i never went near any woods at night🌙. I had a feeling it would somehow swallow me up and I would never be seen again. I mean, I was a teenager, but even now I still get weird feelings about certain places and im in my thirties. Finally your right about the legends even in Paterson alot of things were named after Devils, we had certain areas we nicknamed like Devils park and Devils Night (the night before Halloween 🎃) and downtown has its own Italian section we always thought they were the mob cuz of Sopranos they even filmed some parts by where i lived in that very section.
Interesting post
Good job on this story. We are from NJ and have been following the story. It's just SO odd. I heard that they were found in a thicket of thorns - which is weird. I also heard something about a possible meth lab nearby - but not confirmed. We just camped in the Pine Barrens last week and will be putting up more videos on our channel (still editing). But you are right - there is something that feels SO strange in the Pine Barrens.
Born and raised in South Jersey. Been to the Pine Barrens many many times in the late 70's to the mid 80's. There was an area that is a clearing & very sandy. We use to build a giant bonfire and drink. Never had anything happen to any of us (usually a group of 20 or more) but man it was very creepy. We ALWAYS made sure the fire was completely out before we left.
Thank you YT algorithm for bringing me to this excellent channel!
It is so cool (and creepy) that drone technology is so advanced. Another great video. Thank you.😀
Didn't know such a place existed. Sounds ominous. I sure hope they didn't suffer. Glad they were found. Thanks for the video!
Very well told story! I learned some terms in the story. I really appreciate that you shared how you felt about the Pine Barrons based on your own experiences growing up in the area. Wow! What adventures you’ve had!!
My condolences to the Parker family🙏🙏🙏
Great videos and we'll enjoy them whenever you can do them for us.
Theory: Loraine passed in their home from natural causes, Gary did not want to live without her. Decided they'd pass on together in their favorite place but figured they'd be found easily if near their home. Road out with her on the back of the ATV, parked laid her down and then laid next to her, letting himself pass on in his grief from exposure.
Heat, cold, and dehydration can kill quickly. Something must have happened to the husband first, and she couldn't walk without her cane (and they forgot it so she didn't have it) so she had to stay put, and then succumbed soon after. Dehydration is very common in these scenarios.
Yes Brian, been missing your stories. Thanks and keep it up.❤❤❤ them.
Call in Dr. G...she does brilliant autopsies. (I believe she's retired, but from watching her I know that there always has to be a cause of death, even if not at first apparent.) I hope an answer as to why they died is forthcoming!
Maybe it was a freak occurrence where they died from different things such as a stroke and another a heart attack? I am suspicious of foul play. I hope they check to see if there is any indication of strangulation or something telling
Just luv Dr G.
@@whitedragoness23 heart attacks can be tested for post mortem I think 🤔
@@Grognarthebarb this comment reminded me of this case. I wonder if there any updates
@@whitedragoness23 not that I could find on RUclips. My guess would either be like the happy life our work here is done type suicide or medical emergency In one causes like a heart attack in the other
Fascinating story today, Bryan. :) Yes very tragic too. I have also indeed heard many strange stories about the Pine Barrens. I am glad though that you spoke about the positive part of the park too though as to be balanced. I think parks can be both beautiful and at the same time have a dark side too. Great vid, overall. :)
Such a very odd story and thank you for posting. Speaking of eerie stories, I grew up in SJ and my 1st exposure to the NJ devil was at elementary school. Our teacher had several books on the subject and would read them to us during our last hour of school. The stories scared some of us so much we didn't want to go out of our homes after dark 😄
Good video ! I have spent a lot of time in the pine barrens and do agree with you when you say it’s creepy .. There is just a strange feeling that you get sometimes and it’s unexplainable.. I’ve been out there fishing or hiking alone and just out of nowhere get this feeling that it’s time to go and I can’t get to my vehicle fast enough ..to make matters worse there is very little cell phone service which sucks because you can be in the middle of following directions or using a trail map and then it’s gone ..
I live here too and I know the exact feeling you describe. Ive gone through some places in the pines where I feared for my safety but shook it off as paranoia. Glad I’m not alone!
I grew up in the heart ot the pines. The spooky part is when you are walking through the pines and all of a sudden there is not a sound. No animals nothing. When you keep walking ithe noises fade back slowly.
So sad. Maybe one passed away from a heartache? And the other lay next to them and passed from exposure because they didn't want to leave them or where unable to because of mobility. I hope they're family find peace and answers.
Good stuff once again. It's always a relief listening to Bryan. He takes you away from the daily crazy life ie politics. The worst thing about Bryan is when his stories are over.
I hope everything is well. yes I grew up in the same area that you are talking about the Pine Barrens I live next to fort Dix McGuire Air Force Base super Fortress I have hunted in the Pine Barrens I have heard sounds that you couldn't believe out there very spooky but I have to say I love the Pine Barrens
I'm also from the area, Browns Mills, Pemberton to Mt Holly and have spent a lot of time in pines, but it White's bogs where I felt the most uncomfortable .. never liked being there at night
I live here too. Ive gone through some places in the pines where I feared for my safety but shook it off as paranoia. Glad I’m not alone!
Christopher Moltasanti and Paulie Gualtieri got lost out here too, almost froze to death.
Lol great post! One of the greatest episodes!
Thank you for wonderful narration clear concise and professionally presented. RIP Lorraine and Gary. Sincere condolences to the family and friends.
This is definitely a strange case. Does anyone know if they were employed by any company/govt agency dealing with sensitive/personal information.
I'm really baffled by this case. I'm going to keep an eye open for updates on this case.
I’ve spent months in the pine barrens. Camping in many areas. Never had any weird things happen. We had private camp sites that no one ever visited. Loved the pinneys