Ok, Hilton, you have converted me from a DW lover to a Staccato enthusiast. First and foremost, I have to add to my book of knowledge that 2011 parts are dimensionally different than 1911 parts and normally not interchangeable.
Thanks for the great presentation. Any issues with 45 acp Hollow Points? (I have constantly had issues with Sig and Springfield 1911s not feeding hollow points)... probably because of the spatial relation of a fed magazine to the feeding ramp. Given the modern 2011 design, I am hoping hollow points not an issue. 'glad to hear it accepts standard 1911 magazines (10-round Wilson Combat is an option). Maybe one day STI would make their own 10-round single stack 1911 magazines :). And perhaps one day R comes with fixed night site option (my dream)! Be safe.
Thanks for the video, Hilton. Do you know who makes STIs 1911 mags? (Specifically the 10rd 9mm) I've been told they are CM mags. Want to be able to use the same mags in addition to the three it comes with.
I cannot do the part to remove the barrel at 5:15... can you go slower here and show more??? I’m not seeing what you’re showing to get the part stopping the barrel near the top out
So it still has the polymer grip Module, so you are sacrificing the standard 1911 thin grip?great video as usual. I had a credit at V-1 tactical, so I used it for a Staccatto P DPO, I think a C DUO would have been more practical for me , but they had the P and the competion type one?
The R is no longer in production, so it's a bit moot. It wasn't selling. The grip was a unique one that was single stack and a touch thinner than a 1911...which in the end might have been *too* thin.
I have both the 9mm and 45acp versions and love them, great shooters. I know they discontinued the "R" Do you know when Staccato will bring them back and why they stopped producing them? Would've love to have seen a commander version.
They stopped producing them very quickly as no one was buying them. Due to an extremely low sales response (and therefore no actual ROI from the company - consider the molds for the new grip module), I wouldn't expect to see them come back at all.
Hoping to see the Staccato R 45ACP model in the wild soon... the Staccato C2 that I pre-ordered in December is rumored to be in route for delivery next week!
The R just wasn’t selling well enough, and production can’t keep up with making the big sellers (P and C2), so it was simple business math. No .45’s are offered - same business math. When 99% of buyers want more 9mm’s than you can make...make 9mm’s.
Can you clarify what you are seeing? Note that the finish can appear blotchy if it's dry or smeared with oil. Try wiping it down with an oily rag and looking at it. The finish is inspected at the factory and is a matte black.
108Performance Here are pictures of how it arrived and after wiping out down with oil. I guess it's how it's supposed to look? Thank you! photos.app.goo.gl/8HFSEJHQx5Sp9C7Q8
The fit of the end of the barrel to the slide provides a component of accuracy. That can be done with the cone barrel like on the Staccato, or with a fitted bushing.
Which one shoots better the R or the P? Magazine capacity doesn’t matter to me. I found a R for sale but didn’t know if it’s worth getting over the P. I’m limited to 10 rounds anyway
Even this .45 cal R is discontinued due to lack of demand and actual sales (ie. demand on the internet doesn't equate to actual sales). At this point there are no .45 cal Staccatos.
I hate this gun so far... real pain in the ass for $2,000... brand new f’ing gun... only shot 36 rounds through it... and had to use a f’ing lymar rubber hammer to make the piece in the front move in order to turn it... it was stuck immovable to fingers because of sitting in the factory for so long after staccato fires the 3 bullets through it. Even the gun store I had it shipped to said while it was in good shape, it was gunned up with carbon. Most frustrating new gun experience I’ve had by far. I don’t recommend. Pain in the ass to disassemble from factory. They should clean their guns after firing before shipping them out for this price. My CZ shadow 2 was cheaper and super clean.
Rivers Water Can’t speak to its cleanliness, but it’s tight like any match grade 1911. This is your first 1911, so it takes a bit to learn how it all works. The barrel bushing is tight because it’s match fit not because it’s damaged or dirty or defective.
@@108Performance also the gun jammed 4 times (first bullet every mag for 4 mags) and correction. i didn't shoot 36 rounds it was 32. i own two Scars, a cz shadow 2, and a glock 17, and i can easily say that this STI has been the worst out-of-box experience i've ever had. i will never buy another gun from Staccato. And the support for this firearm is scarce.... hard to find good information online for this Staccatto R especially.
@@deank5649 nope. it's just a subpar expensive weapon. I shoot better with, and have 100% reliability with my CZ Shadow 2. I'm going to sell my 2011 Stacatto and get a .40 cal CZ shadow to replace it. No issues with CZ so far pistol-wise, and every friend i've let shoot my 9mm CZ shadow 2 so far is sold. clean and good to go right out of the gates; superior quality control and craftsmanship.
The post production highlighting of components like screws is great!
Ok, Hilton, you have converted me from a DW lover to a Staccato enthusiast. First and foremost, I have to add to my book of knowledge that 2011 parts are dimensionally different than 1911 parts and normally not interchangeable.
Love it. Wish there was a duo option though.
Awesome gun, I hope they make a double stack 2011 version of this.
They do, I’m not sure what they call it but they have it in black and also stainless.
Very informative! Thanks Hilton!
I'm still waiting for my Staccato R that I bought to show up at my LGS!
I have the C (DPO) Next will be the R. Love my Staccato
Thanks for the great presentation. Any issues with 45 acp Hollow Points? (I have constantly had issues with Sig and Springfield 1911s not feeding hollow points)... probably because of the spatial relation of a fed magazine to the feeding ramp. Given the modern 2011 design, I am hoping hollow points not an issue. 'glad to hear it accepts standard 1911 magazines (10-round Wilson Combat is an option). Maybe one day STI would make their own 10-round single stack 1911 magazines :). And perhaps one day R comes with fixed night site option (my dream)! Be safe.
Any videos of you shooting the Staccato R?
Thanks for the video, Hilton. Do you know who makes STIs 1911 mags? (Specifically the 10rd 9mm) I've been told they are CM mags. Want to be able to use the same mags in addition to the three it comes with.
I've not seen the factory 9mm mag. Take a look here and see if any look familiar, and go from there: metalform.us/product/
And now the Staccato R is discontinued!
I cannot do the part to remove the barrel at 5:15... can you go slower here and show more??? I’m not seeing what you’re showing to get the part stopping the barrel near the top out
Rivers Water TIP THE BARREL OUT OF LOCKUP
I don’t like how the mag appears as if it’s not fully inserted. Does Staccato offer a mag well for the Staccato R?
I want an R in 45 because I have all the other high end 1911's and am looking for something different
How does Staccato R compare to Staccato XL ?
So it still has the polymer grip
Module, so you are sacrificing the standard 1911 thin grip?great video as usual. I had a credit at V-1 tactical, so I used it for a Staccatto P DPO, I think
a C DUO would have been more practical for me , but they had the P and the competion type one?
The R is no longer in production, so it's a bit moot. It wasn't selling. The grip was a unique one that was single stack and a touch thinner than a 1911...which in the end might have been *too* thin.
@@108Performance thanks for the reply and the update
I have both the 9mm and 45acp versions and love them, great shooters. I know they discontinued the "R" Do you know when Staccato will bring them back and why they stopped producing them? Would've love to have seen a commander version.
They stopped producing them very quickly as no one was buying them. Due to an extremely low sales response (and therefore no actual ROI from the company - consider the molds for the new grip module), I wouldn't expect to see them come back at all.
@@108Performance Thanks for the information. Shame though.
Hoping to see the Staccato R 45ACP model in the wild soon... the Staccato C2 that I pre-ordered in December is rumored to be in route for delivery next week!
www.jproarms.com has an aggressive inventory, and they've had the R in 9mm. C2 is way cool, I'm looking forward to getting one as well!
If you kept to keep this gun and want to sell it I am local to you and am looking to buy a R 45 to go with my 9.
I may be wrong. But I heard its not legal for IDPA Classic Division Legal.
So as of Jan 4, 2021, the Staccato website doesn't even list the Staccato R. Discontinued? Do they even offer a pistol in .45 ACP now?
The R just wasn’t selling well enough, and production can’t keep up with making the big sellers (P and C2), so it was simple business math. No .45’s are offered - same business math. When 99% of buyers want more 9mm’s than you can make...make 9mm’s.
@@108Performance Thanks for the response. I figure that Staccato knows where their market lies. I'll just have to go elsewhere.
I second what Bert Blue said. My Staccato P just arrived and to me the finish looks terrible! (Especially compared to my DVC-3.)
Can you clarify what you are seeing? Note that the finish can appear blotchy if it's dry or smeared with oil. Try wiping it down with an oily rag and looking at it. The finish is inspected at the factory and is a matte black.
108Performance Here are pictures of how it arrived and after wiping out down with oil. I guess it's how it's supposed to look? Thank you! photos.app.goo.gl/8HFSEJHQx5Sp9C7Q8
@@steveasvitt5437 I can't tell for sure from the pics but if you're not satisfied with the finish then contact STI customer service.
Does barrel bushing do anything for accuracy? I've noticed they got rid of it on the Staccato P.
The fit of the end of the barrel to the slide provides a component of accuracy. That can be done with the cone barrel like on the Staccato, or with a fitted bushing.
@108performance Now that the Staccato R isn’t being manufactured at the moment. Any recommendations on a replacement mag release?
Unfortunately it’s a unique part and not a standard 1911 style. No one makes an aftermarket one.
@@108Performance Thanks, i’m just trying to be proactive just in case it breaks.
Which one shoots better the R or the P? Magazine capacity doesn’t matter to me. I found a R for sale but didn’t know if it’s worth getting over the P. I’m limited to 10 rounds anyway
Get the P so that you can take advantage of the availability of aftermarket for it, since there is NONE for the R since it's been discontinued.
Thank you!
Where did you get that hat from?
I wish Staccato made a more compact 45acp.
Even this .45 cal R is discontinued due to lack of demand and actual sales (ie. demand on the internet doesn't equate to actual sales). At this point there are no .45 cal Staccatos.
Accuracy?
Why no bull barrel 🤦♂️
Would you be able to tell me if STI has offered an alternate magazine release for the “C”.
Only the stock option is available right now, but 10-8 Performance is looking at options.
Someone sell me their staccato R .45! Name your price!
Completely forgot about the R, seems like suuuch a waste of a gun sitting next to the XC, P & C2
Agreed and sales definitely reflected that sentiment as well.
Absolute tragedy they stopped producing these. Ugh
I hate this gun so far... real pain in the ass for $2,000... brand new f’ing gun... only shot 36 rounds through it... and had to use a f’ing lymar rubber hammer to make the piece in the front move in order to turn it... it was stuck immovable to fingers because of sitting in the factory for so long after staccato fires the 3 bullets through it. Even the gun store I had it shipped to said while it was in good shape, it was gunned up with carbon. Most frustrating new gun experience I’ve had by far. I don’t recommend. Pain in the ass to disassemble from factory. They should clean their guns after firing before shipping them out for this price. My CZ shadow 2 was cheaper and super clean.
Rivers Water Can’t speak to its cleanliness, but it’s tight like any match grade 1911. This is your first 1911, so it takes a bit to learn how it all works. The barrel bushing is tight because it’s match fit not because it’s damaged or dirty or defective.
@@108Performance you said i wouldn't need tools... i definitely needed to tap it a handful of times with a rubber hammer to get it to budge....
@@108Performance also the gun jammed 4 times (first bullet every mag for 4 mags) and correction. i didn't shoot 36 rounds it was 32. i own two Scars, a cz shadow 2, and a glock 17, and i can easily say that this STI has been the worst out-of-box experience i've ever had. i will never buy another gun from Staccato. And the support for this firearm is scarce.... hard to find good information online for this Staccatto R especially.
All I gathered here is you don't know how a bushing works and that you probably have never owned a mid to upper level 1911 before.
@@deank5649 nope. it's just a subpar expensive weapon. I shoot better with, and have 100% reliability with my CZ Shadow 2. I'm going to sell my 2011 Stacatto and get a .40 cal CZ shadow to replace it. No issues with CZ so far pistol-wise, and every friend i've let shoot my 9mm CZ shadow 2 so far is sold. clean and good to go right out of the gates; superior quality control and craftsmanship.
So why do I want an “R”?
Watch the video and then ask a more pointed question so I can help you, otherwise if you are asking then you probably don't want one.
why I won't pay 2k for a polymer 2011.
Channel and videos are great just please change or remove that dumb music!
Well that’s dumb music that I wrote and recorded, so maybe the other gun channels where the host plays their own music they’ll be better than me.