Tools, Glorious Tools! #10 (Part 4) - Shop Made Gear Cutters - Making 'Cycloidal' Cutters
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2023
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File Downloads (Be sure to COPY/PASTE the links):
Cutter Sharpening Tool Metric: www.clickspringprojects.com/u...
Cutter Sharpening Tool Inch: www.clickspringprojects.com/u...
Clickspring Universal Gear Calculator: www.clickspringprojects.com/u...
Cutter Forming Tools Metric: www.clickspringprojects.com/u...
Cutter Forming Tools Inch: www.clickspringprojects.com/u...
Cutter Blank Metric: www.clickspringprojects.com/u...
Cutter Blank Inch: www.clickspringprojects.com/u...
Some top resources on Gear Theory:
JM Wild - "Wheel & Pinion Cutting in Horology": amzn.to/2HI6ca9
Grossmann, Lessons in Horology: www.survivorlibrary.com/libra...
John Stevenson's Blog Post - metalwebnews.com/howto/gear/ge...
WO Davis - “Gears For Small Mechanisms”: amzn.to/2Yj2Ben
"Gears and Gear Cutting", Ivan Law: amzn.to/2FKmaUI
"The Watchmakers' Lathe " Ward Goodrich - amzn.to/2Wijchr
Hugh Sparks - www.csparks.com/watchmaking/C...
"The Clock & Watch Makers Guide to Gear Making" Porter - amzn.to/2xuFP7I
Tony's gear videos:
• Gears! - But Were Afra...
• 15T-M2 Let This Be A L...
Stefan on the subject of sharpening, and a discussion on profile error: • Toolgrinding: Resharpe...
Mr Pete's Gear Videos:
• SHOP TIPS #192 Intro. ...
• SHOP TIPS #199 Making ...
• SHOP TIPS #200 Making ...
Andy Pugh's Gear hobbing video's:
• Hobbing (Gear cutting)...
• A New Gear for an Old ...
Online Gear Generator: geargenerator.com/
Alan Pinkus’s Gear Generator - www.micro-machine-shop.com/gea...
Matthias Wandels gear generator: woodgears.ca/gear_cutting/tem...
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Cameras:
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Books:
"Wheel & Pinion Cutting in Horology": amzn.to/2HI6ca9
"Solidworks 2013 Bible": amzn.to/2FObS1D
WO Davis - “Gears For Small Mechanisms”: amzn.to/2Yj2Ben
"Workshop practice Series": amzn.to/2WgeGh0
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Dormer A190202 Jobber Drill Set, 1.0 mm - 6.0 mm x 0.1 mm Size: amzn.to/2DR5fdb
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Chris, the attention to detail in your videos is so apparent! I always look forward to you posting, despite having almost no adjacency to the subject matter beyond casual interest. I think that speaks to the accessibility you create for the subject. From one artist to another, thanks for putting in the work to share this stuff!
I'm 99.99% sure I will never make one of these cutters to make gears, but I sure am mesmerized watching Chris do it.
I don't know what might mean to you as creator, but on my way to work, i stopped aside to watch your video! You are the best! Thanks for spreading the knowledge.
Thanks for taking the time to watch mate :)
Thank you for posting this excellent video!
And…. I am now looking at small lathes online again. Love the videos
god i love work.... i could sit and watch it all day...
Tony and Chris on the same day. Can't be happier.
Great series Chris! It's funny how in machining you often have to make a tool to make a tool to make a tool to make a tool lol and for gear cutting you go from a negative profile (radius checker) to positive (button or hss cutter) to negative (gear cutter) to positive (gear). You build up complexity of each subsequent step up to the final piece while maintaining accuracy of all previous features. Very satisfying even though I'm sure it makes it take quite a while to get to the finished piece! 😂
I love your gear cutter videos!
The brass cutter at the end would make for a killer necklace! Great job as always.
I´m totally lost Chris... But I do know if ever will get lost, this is the place to be!
unfortunately in 3000 years time no one will discover this video to see how to do these processes. it makes you wonder how advanced things were in the past but due to mediums of translations how stuck we become. I hope you write your own book on solid tabs of uranium or something. Great video
I really desperately want to be in a position where all of the amazing information you provide could be applied... I love your videos, and can't wait to see the last installment on this series!
From the bottom of my engineer's heart : thank you for your videos!
Hey Chris. I genuinely feel bad for asking because I imagine you get this same question constantly but would you mind giving an update on the progress of the Antikythera mechanism? I know you had submitted a paper for review and I imagine that is still pending but I wonder if maybe you could do a little video about what the finding was or even the process you had to go through to submit the paper. Sorry to be a bother. Love all your videos!
Hello mate - yes the paper was published a while back: ruclips.net/video/MkKgdq57uOo/видео.html More research and work to come on the Antikythera project in due course - Cheers :)
“Due course” = 37 years. Don’t worry though. Old Tony’s got a Time Machine so he’ll probably bring back footage for Chris soon.
Hi Chris I like the way you say quite presentable wheels and pinions. It sounds like something on a school report. 😂
Great video as usual buddy.
A lot of work went into making this video. The video was thoroughly enjoyable. Thanks
The little cone section you cut off of the end of the pinion blank looked pretty awesome. Like something a spy would throw down when people were chasing them.
you are an artist and you love your work
I’ve been watching you since day one, and it’s always the most peaceful and satisfying content my friend
I love the vibrant green flame from the boric acid slush
I like those spiky little cones.
Perfect timing I just watched the whole series from start to now
The king of tiny gears returns
Tools! Glorious Tools indeed. I look forward to every installation of this series.
Your skill is impressive when your offcuts look that good.
first time watching one of your vids and immediately subscribed when i saw the handwork on the profile matching the gauge. ffs dude, ya got me! i said out loud, "awwww fack" when you showed it against the gauge. keep up the great work!
Excellent craftsmanship as always .
Your macro videos are outstanding.
Yo dawg, I heard you like tools, so I made you some tools so you can make a tool.
It's no joke to say these tools and what they produce look as good if not better/finer than something shop-bought as such.
Amazing quality parts, video and voice overs. Even the offcut point of the pinion gear is a work of art.
You may well be the single most satisfying (and relaxing) channel on RUclips. Thank you, Chris!
Thank you for sharing your passion
Very detailed information on gear cutter making. Thanks Chris for sharing.
Love you Chris! Keep up the great work
“The fiddly things”
Love it ❤
you make it lock so easy ... great video
This video is entertaining in life. It is highly entertaining in term of technology
Thank you so much!
Great series. We shared this video (and part 3) on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Chris, thank you. I enjoy your attention to every last detail.
I'm really enjoying this in-depth stuff, Chris. Very satisfying. 🙂
Brilliant. DIY engineering at its best. Thanks for sharing.
Always an absolute pleasure
I really love your video's. Excellent content, editing, the way you explain. I wished all of my teachers were like you. I would have payed more attention.
Excellent work,again,Chris.Thank you.
Привет, спасибо за еще одну серию. Отличное окончание дня и полезно расслабиться перед сном 🙂. Ждём продолжения.
Also, this is a masterpiece of a video! Bravo 🎉
Thank you for all the effort you put into these videos. Absolutely fascinating as always.
Your videos are cure for my OCD.
Hi Chris. Another amazing detail video
Caspita che lavoro!!! Grazie per le informazioni.
Super professional job ⚙️
8:26 you could shine those up and just sell them like that as pendants. I’d totally buy one.
another great video with excellent content. Brilliant 👍
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Chris this is facinating.
that said when done large scale we use horizontal mills.
im suprised horology never miniaturized the concept.
thank god for pp thornton
All that work are perfect 👍👍
Satisfying!
Here I am, where my (very brief and limited) lecture about pinions, gears and transmissions states, that we only use whole numbered modules (?, *insert plural of Module here). I alsways thought thats a real thing... turns out, we were just too dumb for decimal modules :D
I love Clickspring.
Making a tool to make a tool to be used in another tool, tooly genius.
Since you have made it, try the brass cutter on POM or Nylon. I would expect it to work. I made single use form tools for turning plastic out of 7075 aluminium and it held up just fine (and was much easier to machine than steel). Especially POM makes great low friction gears for low loads...
We came for the Antikythera mechanism reproduction and stayed for the tools for making tools for making tools 🙃
“The lick” @ 7:55 :)
I absolutely love this video series.
I would like to try making worm gears. However, I'm not sure about the practicality for the size I require.
Epic
Do you ever abrasive lap the teeth to match? It quickly removes all irregularities and produces matching gears with polished surfaces.
Have you looked at what UnchartedX is doing pertaining ancient precision technology?
Yes I have been enjoying Ben (& co's) investigations very much, they're doing great work - Cheers :)
@@Clickspring Hope it's something you can contribute to ;)
Chris, love this set of videos; great information. An observation. Could one remove the greater part of the "waste" during gear cutting and then use the gear cutter to finish up the profile? I would think that this would put less stress and wear on a valuable tool.
Yes, a great way to extend cutter life - Cheers :)
My favorite tooth profile is the continuous-contact profile used in some helical gear pumps. It is just so beautiful. At the same time machining these profiles seem impossible without resorting to wire-edm or similar computer driven methods. How would you go about it?
Hi Clickspring, you do a amzing works. can you share information about your 4 axes lathe please i tried to bought one also and how you do the off set of the gears. thank in advanced
Where and what did you study? Love your videos! Thank you for posting!
Chris, may I ask what cutting fluid you use please? (The clear fluid used on the lathe) I have been searching for something other than the usually messy (and smelly) mineral oils available. I have tried various and expensive other cutting compounds too, with variable results. Thanks in advance. I love the math and science behind developing those gear geometries.
Hi Chris another great and informative video.
Having spent a lifetime around Involute gears I'm fairly familiar with them, but other than owning watches and clocks , no real experience with cycloidal.
so my question is given two othewise identical gear trains, one involute, the other cycloidal is there any appreciable differance in smoothness and efficency
in one verses another?
There's something distinctly Gorillaz like to the background music and for some strange reason it works really well.
1) Remove what you don’t need. 2) Heat treat what remains.
As always... Astonishing! You referenced the cost couple of times. What is the cost for those comercial gear cutters?
Prices for commercial horological cutters can be found here: ppthornton.com/shop/ typically a mechanism will require at least 3 but often 5 or more cutters to complete - Cheers :)
Hi Chris. What camera/equipment/ editing software do you use. your work is amazing.
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What music are you using? I like it.
FUCKING LEGEND!
Excellent video series. One thing I noticed while watching this video is the nut that holds the cutter onto the arbor is "normal" right hand threaded. Do you ever have problems with it unthreading since it would naturally want to due to the direction of cut? I'm guessing the cutting forces are less than the tightening of the nut?
Yes the cutting forces are quite low, I've never had a problem with it. Normal nut closing force is quite adequate for the job - Cheers :)
It is rare I come across a video that I simply cannot follow. I'd estimate 50%+ of the technical terms you use are simply beyond my understanding. It is a pleasure to be befuddled to the point of calling your work magic..
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While I am just tinkering in the shed and my only trade qualification is as a butcher.
Is it possible to apply gear cutting methods to sprocket cutting for use with a chain?
I have converted my Harley sportster to a dirt bike. I am having trouble getting the right size commercial sprockets. It is my Australia tourer with a trailer in tow.
I would like to cruise at 95kms/h and rev. at 2500rpm.
I know plenty of people who have used sprockets for dirtbikes and off-road buggies that were lasercut from flat steel. The Edge Products is a West Australian company that sells buggy kits and parts and they have a fairly wide range of sprockets for sale for 520 pitch chain, and could probably do you a custom set if you rang Tony (the proprietor) on a good day.
what about the form for internal gears?
Chris.
@ 15:15 is the saw blade a normal jewellers hacksaw type or something special?
Thanks Simon.
Just a normal jeweller's saw and blade (Super Pike) - Cheers :)
Hi. Is it oil motor ? Regards.
Porfovor si pudieras sustitularlo en español grasias
You are a machining god - but I just realised this 9:01 is porno music! 😂
Love the videos, but at this point, I've lost track of using a negative tool to make a positive tool to make a negative tool... to make a part.
I have a copy of the book The Practical Mechanic from 1879 formerly owned by R.D. Tackeberry, who's handwritten notes (in QUILL PEN) are peppered through its pages. He invented quite a few things over his years and held a few patents as well, and parts of this book reveal his process almost like a diary. His notes on gearing and gear wheel circumference were brief, in pencil, but there, and fascinating nevertheless.
So let me get this straight... If I am caught "soliciting" it's a crime, but "horology" is perfectly fine... >_
With your level of knowledge you could be a Professor of Machinists.
Why do you need to cut teeth so deep when they don't come anywhere close to touching?
Great video, but...
Come on Chris, you're an Aussie; it's pronounced "dar-ta" not "day-ta" 😂