I just tried the lexus for first time after watching this and rather enjoyed it. I've seen a lot of lag on forza servers in FM and FH5 the last week or more, maybe they need an upgrade due the the massive influx of returning players, or is that wishful thinking lol. I have excellent internet, all wired and yet I often get "poor network" message. Cheers Flash :)
Hahahaa it is a handful though. Yeah it’s not been the best mate it’s all over the shop. I think they are now using Poundland servers lol. Yeah the poor network is more than likely because your on a server across the pond lol.
Thnaks for another good video! In my opinion, the penalty system, even if not perfect, is good enough. It's right the most oart of times, let's say 80%, and this is enough to keep the races quite clean. I might be wrong: this the most advanced penalty system in racing simulations. And, ok, I know how frustrating is getting unfair penalties. It's a risk we have to accept. Will it improve? I'm a little bit skeptical, at lest in this current generation of consoles.
Thanks for watching buddy. While I agree with what you are saying. The biggest issue with the penalty system is it’s not human. It’s a yes or no scenario. So it’s never going to be human or fair. Even humans are not fair. But I do feel it needs to hand out warnings before punishing. Which I think would be more palatable. It is the most advanced. I mean acc or other sims blame both drivers if there is ever contact. While off tracks are only punishable if time is gained. Where as forza punishes for losing time and going of track where really it needs to be a little less slap you around and more of a slap on the wrist. I think it’ll improve but half the penalties I don’t pay attention to. Unless I get a 4 second for something that is not my fault. That’s a race I quit as there is no point carrying on. Hope you are well buddy. Sorry for the late reply.
No kidding. It was that Ferrari I could overtake man. I knew if I tried I would get wrecked lol. So I let the other car through. They can be the guinea pig lol and I’ll watch and wait
Monza is going the be one of the easiest back to front races ever lol. Ghost through turn 1 and your golden lol. Although I would love for it to come. It’s a brilliant track.
@GeoffreyAnderson2112 Monza on Forza is a scary proposition. Turns 1 and 2? I will be avoiding Monza when it is on on multilayer. Great for private lobbies though
Perhaps Forza should give warnings for track limits on a particular corner before giving a penalty. Then if you get track limits on the same corner, the penalty gets higher?
Yeah I believe that is a better corse of action. Yeah pretty much like in the real world to an extent bud. Warnings should always be given before punishment.
It’s improved by around 15 percent I would say. After been told to drive faster cars it still seems funky. Like how can you claim 300 percent collection of more data than previously to assign penalties yet the same incorrect penalties are still being issued. I don’t know. I think their tech tree of how the penalty system is calculating is wrong and needs to be re written
Oh yeah not saying it isn’t but incorrect penalties need to be sorted out man. How can forza say that instant is rare. It’s still happening and is just wrong
Dude the penalties are a joke..everytime I get punted off I get the biggest penalty. I've almost had it with this game and I've only been playing it 3 weeks lol...fm7 is calling me back
Yeah I mean I don’t get it. Many people told me touring car penalties or slower cars are great but faster cars such as gt3 and up is just dreadful so I tried it out and I must say WTF lol. 3 weeks man. Oooff. I’m a 11 months deep. Lost plenty of hair of my head. Gained 3 million wrinkles but I’m suppressing it well. To be honest man all jokes aside. I do really enjoy myself on here and I hope that comes across in the video. Just little things. I don’t pay much attention to now lol.
@@Flashms yep..held off buying it for almost a year in the hope players penalties would be sorted out lol ranking system doesn't work. players are still clueless idiots ..I do r class cars the most..but it's extremely rough..my controller's almost copped it a few times hahaa..good game relatively bad player base..im down to a B with 4980 skill points.the fk🤣🤣🤣
@mbrforza4601 the biggest problem with penalties it’s not human. No penalty system is good man. All have their own flaws. Some more than others. Half the time I don’t even pay attention to it. Same as the ranking or safety rating. Means nothing really as like you say the ranking system is flawed. I tent not to give players to much grief as players age and skill vary wildly. Kids play the game and so do older people while others it’s their first time. I got by the policy if you want a “sim” then go iracing. Even there it’s not perfect lol. You have to be fair. Controller almost took the brunt of it all lmfao. Come join us on discord man. You will see a totally different side to forza with us lot. It’s a right giggle. It’s a good rating mate but again meaningless and as useful as a chocolate teapot lol
@@Flashms I agree no penalty system is perfect..but they need to keep working on it lol a half second penalty being punted off u can deal with not a near 4 second one in a close race its frustrating me at the moment lol..yeh I'll have a pop into the discord at some point man i enjoying ur content 👍
@mbrforza4601 oh yeah totally agree those are the races I quit lol. What’s the point. 4 seconds destroys a race. Thanks bud. All the best and hope to see you soon
It is worth buying to an extent. I mean if you are on pc. I would suggest getting game pass for PC as it’s part of that so for 10-15 pound a month you get the game included along with many others. So that’s the best way to demo it without splashing out the full price bud. That would be my suggestion. I wouldn’t go out and buy an Xbox and go out of my way for it. Not yet. Maybe in another year after a few more updates but as of now it is pretty solid. Bar a few things. All the best bud
Wasn’t poor network, they were pausing it as it’ll slow them right down quicker than is actually possible when you do that. Edit: Reaper got 2 seconds of penalties for creaming the Ferrari that had gone wide & they got another second for hitting you.
So they’ve got a whole arsenal of fancy driving techniques.. wow. How did they learn the rubber-band forwards and backwards past other vehicles? That’s pretty damn impressive
Yeah lol. Spa was not as exciting as thought it would be. It was more like getting a crazy dog then flicking it in the nuts lol. Then wondering why it’s biting me lol.
Short RA... how does tracks like this even make it into any racing game.. Like maple valley short, any oval, monza, tracks like these are beyond boring tbh.. this layout should never be in gt3 lobbies And the still terrible penelty system doesnt do a boring track any favors...
Those tracks are fun such as maple valley short. They great for slower cars. Like minis and stuff. To be fair road America is a fun track bud. Nice and wide and is a case of taking opportunity. Oval race was hard not gona lie. When I did that video oooof my wrist were burning lol. Again provided a new level of difficulty. Again not for gt3 but they should actually implement nascar. That would be dope.
@Speedyey slip streaming, trying to push the slightest gap. I mean that ending was amazing. Neck and neck. Shame the penalty ruined the position but never mind.
I just tried the lexus for first time after watching this and rather enjoyed it. I've seen a lot of lag on forza servers in FM and FH5 the last week or more, maybe they need an upgrade due the the massive influx of returning players, or is that wishful thinking lol. I have excellent internet, all wired and yet I often get "poor network" message. Cheers Flash :)
Hahahaa it is a handful though.
Yeah it’s not been the best mate it’s all over the shop.
I think they are now using Poundland servers lol.
Yeah the poor network is more than likely because your on a server across the pond lol.
Great video dude, the Lexus is definitely hard to handle when the rear tires hit minor.
Thanks man. Yeah I learned the hard way on that. I mean it’s a beast on good tires lol. Thing needs sandbags in the boot lol
The lexus was a brave choice for spa, doesn’t matter if it’s slow or fast corners that thing just straight up wants to send you to Barry R
Yeah well lesson learnt there for me I can tell you that. It was a handful and I think I did well keeping it under control lol
I have a clip from the last time you tried to take it through eu rouge...
Ah but it wasn’t in the Lexus I don’t think lol.
Thnaks for another good video! In my opinion, the penalty system, even if not perfect, is good enough. It's right the most oart of times, let's say 80%, and this is enough to keep the races quite clean. I might be wrong: this the most advanced penalty system in racing simulations.
And, ok, I know how frustrating is getting unfair penalties. It's a risk we have to accept.
Will it improve? I'm a little bit skeptical, at lest in this current generation of consoles.
Thanks for watching buddy.
While I agree with what you are saying. The biggest issue with the penalty system is it’s not human. It’s a yes or no scenario. So it’s never going to be human or fair. Even humans are not fair. But I do feel it needs to hand out warnings before punishing. Which I think would be more palatable.
It is the most advanced. I mean acc or other sims blame both drivers if there is ever contact. While off tracks are only punishable if time is gained. Where as forza punishes for losing time and going of track where really it needs to be a little less slap you around and more of a slap on the wrist.
I think it’ll improve but half the penalties I don’t pay attention to. Unless I get a 4 second for something that is not my fault. That’s a race I quit as there is no point carrying on.
Hope you are well buddy. Sorry for the late reply.
Elbows out flash
No kidding. It was that Ferrari I could overtake man. I knew if I tried I would get wrecked lol. So I let the other car through. They can be the guinea pig lol and I’ll watch and wait
I am still waiting for Monza...
Monza is going the be one of the easiest back to front races ever lol. Ghost through turn 1 and your golden lol. Although I would love for it to come. It’s a brilliant track.
@GeoffreyAnderson2112 Monza on Forza is a scary proposition. Turns 1 and 2? I will be avoiding Monza when it is on on multilayer. Great for private lobbies though
@@OBWanJabroni I will be joining. It’ll make amazing content lmfao.
if it wouldn’t get you a strike you should have put the doctor who theme tune for lord billa every time he ghosted and reappeared 😂
@@DanielHP1993 oooo bud that would have been gold lol. I should have put something like that there. I could have found something at least close to it.
I think they award less of a time penalty than before at least. Some more warnings instead of half second penalties.
Yeah it is better but it still has funkiness bud.
Hope you’re keeping well.
Perhaps Forza should give warnings for track limits on a particular corner before giving a penalty. Then if you get track limits on the same corner, the penalty gets higher?
Yeah I believe that is a better corse of action. Yeah pretty much like in the real world to an extent bud. Warnings should always be given before punishment.
"Yeah we have fixed the penalty system". No it's still broke!
It’s improved by around 15 percent I would say. After been told to drive faster cars it still seems funky. Like how can you claim 300 percent collection of more data than previously to assign penalties yet the same incorrect penalties are still being issued. I don’t know. I think their tech tree of how the penalty system is calculating is wrong and needs to be re written
There are some odd penalties but it's definitely waaaaay better
Oh yeah not saying it isn’t but incorrect penalties need to be sorted out man. How can forza say that instant is rare. It’s still happening and is just wrong
@Flashms I had a guy at Sebring yesterday Randy Orton me off the track twice on one lap. I got 2.25 seconds in penalties and he got nothing
@@OBWanJabroni sounds about right. This is what they have supposed to off fixed with their new 300 percent more data capture lol.
@Flashms I'm not very good very good at maths. What's 300% of nothing?
Still nothing but looks pretty lol
Dude the penalties are a joke..everytime I get punted off I get the biggest penalty. I've almost had it with this game and I've only been playing it 3 weeks lol...fm7 is calling me back
Yeah I mean I don’t get it. Many people told me touring car penalties or slower cars are great but faster cars such as gt3 and up is just dreadful so I tried it out and I must say WTF lol.
3 weeks man. Oooff. I’m a 11 months deep. Lost plenty of hair of my head. Gained 3 million wrinkles but I’m suppressing it well. To be honest man all jokes aside. I do really enjoy myself on here and I hope that comes across in the video. Just little things. I don’t pay much attention to now lol.
@@Flashms yep..held off buying it for almost a year in the hope players penalties would be sorted out lol ranking system doesn't work. players are still clueless idiots ..I do r class cars the most..but it's extremely rough..my controller's almost copped it a few times hahaa..good game relatively bad player base..im down to a B with 4980 skill points.the fk🤣🤣🤣
@mbrforza4601 the biggest problem with penalties it’s not human. No penalty system is good man. All have their own flaws. Some more than others. Half the time I don’t even pay attention to it. Same as the ranking or safety rating. Means nothing really as like you say the ranking system is flawed. I tent not to give players to much grief as players age and skill vary wildly. Kids play the game and so do older people while others it’s their first time. I got by the policy if you want a “sim” then go iracing. Even there it’s not perfect lol. You have to be fair.
Controller almost took the brunt of it all lmfao. Come join us on discord man. You will see a totally different side to forza with us lot. It’s a right giggle.
It’s a good rating mate but again meaningless and as useful as a chocolate teapot lol
@@Flashms I agree no penalty system is perfect..but they need to keep working on it lol a half second penalty being punted off u can deal with not a near 4 second one in a close race its frustrating me at the moment lol..yeh I'll have a pop into the discord at some point man i enjoying ur content 👍
@mbrforza4601 oh yeah totally agree those are the races I quit lol. What’s the point. 4 seconds destroys a race.
Thanks bud. All the best and hope to see you soon
Is it worth buying especially since I've never owned an Xbox console I've always played on Playstation
It is worth buying to an extent. I mean if you are on pc. I would suggest getting game pass for PC as it’s part of that so for 10-15 pound a month you get the game included along with many others. So that’s the best way to demo it without splashing out the full price bud. That would be my suggestion.
I wouldn’t go out and buy an Xbox and go out of my way for it. Not yet. Maybe in another year after a few more updates but as of now it is pretty solid. Bar a few things. All the best bud
lack of discipline? sounds like the Saturday crew
Yeah first few races are ok but it’s all downhill after that lol
Wasn’t poor network, they were pausing it as it’ll slow them right down quicker than is actually possible when you do that.
Edit: Reaper got 2 seconds of penalties for creaming the Ferrari that had gone wide & they got another second for hitting you.
Never knew you could do that. But their was network issue as they were pinging all over the place. They also had really bad apex syndrome lol.
So they’ve got a whole arsenal of fancy driving techniques.. wow. How did they learn the rubber-band forwards and backwards past other vehicles? That’s pretty damn impressive
It’s the back to the future machine. It’s just malfunctioning lol.
The Lexus is a pig and in my opinion one of the worst GT cars but I do prefer handling to speed
Oh yeah I love a good handling machine. To be fair when the Lexus is up on speed it handles well. It’s low speed it’s just an absolute animal lol.
@@Flashms yeah, mid corner on tight turns are a bit of a wash out
Yeah lol. Spa was not as exciting as thought it would be. It was more like getting a crazy dog then flicking it in the nuts lol. Then wondering why it’s biting me lol.
Short RA... how does tracks like this even make it into any racing game.. Like maple valley short, any oval, monza, tracks like these are beyond boring tbh.. this layout should never be in gt3 lobbies
And the still terrible penelty system doesnt do a boring track any favors...
Those tracks are fun such as maple valley short. They great for slower cars. Like minis and stuff. To be fair road America is a fun track bud. Nice and wide and is a case of taking opportunity. Oval race was hard not gona lie. When I did that video oooof my wrist were burning lol. Again provided a new level of difficulty. Again not for gt3 but they should actually implement nascar. That would be dope.
@@Flashms whats fun about 4 90 degree right turns and 2 dragraces?
@Speedyey slip streaming, trying to push the slightest gap. I mean that ending was amazing. Neck and neck. Shame the penalty ruined the position but never mind.