Joey i found something that works great with plaster of paris. use dryer sheets instead of shop towels. they are strong and work very well on covering foam
Hey Joey, I never get tired of seeing this tutorial, I also copy and paste this on various facebook model railroad groups so I'm hoping you're getting more subscribers and "legions" of fans! (I'll take my commission check now) anywho, keep 'em coming.
Great video Joey, nice to see someone else uses the window screen material. I like as it acts like "rebar" when the plaster covers the material and slightly soaks into it. But for me, I started using drywall "ring" nails where the screen covers the foam splines. The nails have a big head and the nails are hard to pull out, they act like anchors. I too staple all around the edges along the hardwood. Look fwd to watching more videos.
Joey, I do my terra forming like you do, BUT - I glue down low loft polyster batting over the top and then paint it with earth paint followed by the first secenery layer, which the paint will glue down. Looks great and a fractin of that plaster weight and no cost. Check this process out on youtube. Bob S
My pleasure Dirk! And for anyone reading these comments, I for one have been watching D-Loc's (Dirk's) videos since he came on RUclips. So nice to get to see what is going on out there in the world. Thanks again Dirk!
Saw something on the channel the other day you might be interested in, I was!!! They were using the plaster impregnated cloth you buy in the store but they were placing it on the layout dry. Then they would wet it with a brush soaked in water and it actually worked. This will make the scenes very safe to do and cleaner than trying to use paper and plaster or cloth and plaster. I tried it and it works great and very little mess. Yes the cloth is pricey but I figure the savings comes in the clean up (hardly any) and the savings in time and lost plaster that dries up and goes to the trash can.
Joey, the wire screen is a GREAT idea!! 😁 👍 👍 As you said, adds flexibility - but I also see skipping the über messy step of carving foam! Man, that stuff gets everywhere!
Carmine, you might remember a few layouts ago where I mentioned carving the foam with a "wire wheel".. I think this might have been in the "ROCKS" video. That method as you mention is way too messy for inside the shop here. I do use that on dioramas where I can take it out back and not give a hoot......Joey
Trackside Scenery - Unfortunately, my Layout isn't THAT portable... I have tried your wire wheel method. I ended up with semi-convincing strata or shale. MESSY, but nice! 😉
Only thing I do different that your towels is I use plaster cloth, put it on the areas dry, and then wet it with a foam brush forming final texture as I go.
Any tips/tricks for making a flat/level area look less flat? As in a little ground undulation. No mountains or hills in the area I'm modeling, but not exactly as flat is it first looks.
No, not a week. Trying to film everything makes it take longer in general, but this was captured over two afternoons. It took a lot longer to edit the video and narrate.
Hi Joey THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEO. Need additional info as you were saying that you add white glue with plaster paris. My question is what's the mixture ratio. Thanks keep up with the great job
Kamarul, really I have no set mixture ratio for this but if I had to guess, I would say about 1/2 cup per time. "Time" meaning each time I go to mix up a batch. Looking at the raw footage, it looks like for each carton of Plaster, I got about three batches out of it. I think this side of the layout took about 2-1/2 cartons. for what you see in the video. If you have worked with plaster before, each batch dries very quickly and the pan I am mixing in then has hardened plaster in it. The white glue keeps it from hardening completely and that way I don't have to clean the pan out between each batch. If I don't use the white glue, I have to wait in between each batch for it to dry and then scrape and knock it out or otherwise I have chunks in the new batch. More than anything in this video, I am using the white glue because of the paper mache method. If I am just making rocks from plaster (see the "ROCKS" video) or just adding in some plaster to affix the rocks, I do not use the white glue. Again, see the "Rocks" video here on the channel ruclips.net/video/2CPiC2H2BgM/видео.html
Joey thanks for the reply, i guess i will have to do experiments on it as well. how ever from your explanation i can make my lucky guess. I will start building my home town yard as soon as i have all parts with me. Mean time feel free to check up in google earth type TUMPAT STATION MALAYSIA maybe you can gave me some heads up for it. Thanks again. Waiting for your new video soon.
HI, like what you are doing, but had a thought about putting a little color in the plaster & you can save a step, and an added advantage is if you plaster get chipped you still have color, Ho! I bet you don't have that happen, what happen to that GEM of yours, we miss her smile, ha ha ha!
You can certainly add paint to your mix and sometimes we do, however, for the sake of making the video, we wanted to show the plaster represented by itself first. That way we could show the stark contrast after paint.
Joey, I want to learn more how you interfaced the incline to the back drop so it seemed seamless. Where did you get the pictures of the tunnel rock face? thanks Bob S
Joey I noticed that in a previous update you paint the track flat black. Did you have to protect the switch points at all or does the paint not affect them power wise? I model N scale so was wondering.
Keith, everything gets painted, whether it is now with the flat black or later with the weather painting (upcoming video for this layout) or you can see the other video on our channel "Weathering Track". Obviously, you have to clean the (rail head) after you paint, but a simple back and forth motion or running the switch machine back and forth after it is dry works just fine. If you are using older turnouts where the electricity is supplied at the points, maybe that might need to be addressed.
Hello, I have a question. At 4:23 in your video the backdrop piece with the trees seems upside down.Is that for a texture effect that not a lot of people will see? Or have I been up too late?
Hey Vinny! Well, you may be up to late my friend, but that is not the backdrop itself. I am using an old diorama backdrop as scrap for the "scenery back board". This sits in front of where the actual backdrop will be in that groove I point out. The diorama backdrop was mounted on Gatorboard and instead of using a new or freshly cut piece of Gatorboard, I was using this. That is what I meant by "recycled material". So your eyes aren't playing tricks on you, you do see upside down trees, but it's just scrap pieces that I happen to be using. As you see as the video progresses, this area is never seen again. Now get some sleep. Joey
Hahahah, Thanks. I really like your approach to modeling and the videos in general. It's nice when people don't take everything so seriously and also your sense of humor is a bit skewered -I like that!
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Joey i found something that works great with plaster of paris. use dryer sheets instead of shop towels. they are strong and work very well on covering foam
Hey Joey, I never get tired of seeing this tutorial, I also copy and paste this on various facebook model railroad groups so I'm hoping you're getting more subscribers and "legions" of fans! (I'll take my commission check now) anywho, keep 'em coming.
thank, you for youre great helpful video]👍
Great video Joey, nice to see someone else uses the window screen material. I like as it acts like "rebar" when the plaster covers the material and slightly soaks into it. But for me, I started using drywall "ring" nails where the screen covers the foam splines. The nails have a big head and the nails are hard to pull out, they act like anchors. I too staple all around the edges along the hardwood.
Look fwd to watching more videos.
Once my backdrop is up then I can start my new England sea port Thanks for the water tips.
Joey,
I do my terra forming like you do, BUT - I glue down low loft polyster batting over the top and then paint it with earth paint followed by the first secenery layer, which the paint will glue down. Looks great and a fractin of that plaster weight and no cost. Check this process out on youtube. Bob S
Another great video with some very good ideas! And of course thank you for supporting my RUclips channel!
My pleasure Dirk! And for anyone reading these comments, I for one have been watching D-Loc's (Dirk's) videos since he came on RUclips. So nice to get to see what is going on out there in the world. Thanks again Dirk!
I for one did quickly subscribe to your channel. Will check more this evening. /Henrik
Thank you Henrik, I hope you like the videos.
Saw something on the channel the other day you might be interested in, I was!!! They were using the plaster impregnated cloth you buy in the store but they were placing it on the layout dry. Then they would wet it with a brush soaked in water and it actually worked. This will make the scenes very safe to do and cleaner than trying to use paper and plaster or cloth and plaster. I tried it and it works great and very little mess. Yes the cloth is pricey but I figure the savings comes in the clean up (hardly any) and the savings in time and lost plaster that dries up and goes to the trash can.
Hi Joey. Thank you for the improvement in sound quality on this video.
The whole scene is really coming together now. Great video
Mike B
Great tutorial! Looking forward to seeing the next part. Cheers, Dan
Awesome Joey you make it look so easy . Cheers
Joey, the wire screen is a GREAT idea!! 😁 👍 👍
As you said, adds flexibility - but I also see skipping the über messy step of carving foam! Man, that stuff gets everywhere!
Carmine, you might remember a few layouts ago where I mentioned carving the foam with a "wire wheel".. I think this might have been in the "ROCKS" video. That method as you mention is way too messy for inside the shop here. I do use that on dioramas where I can take it out back and not give a hoot......Joey
Trackside Scenery - Unfortunately, my Layout isn't THAT portable... I have tried your wire wheel method. I ended up with semi-convincing strata or shale. MESSY, but nice! 😉
Great video and helpful hints. Keep working on this small layout.
Joey, Thanks for another GREAT video
I have to say a job well done, oh and thanks for the hints.
AWESOME! Thanks!
Can't blame her !! Anyway, problem solved. Keep up the good work.
Fantastic! Thanks Joey!
Awesome how to video
Only thing I do different that your towels is I use plaster cloth, put it on the areas dry, and then wet it with a foam brush forming final texture as I go.
Any tips/tricks for making a flat/level area look less flat? As in a little ground undulation. No mountains or hills in the area I'm modeling, but not exactly as flat is it first looks.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Joey, very helpful. I'm just starting out with this hobby. Jokes are awesome as well😂
THANK YOU DETAIL VIDEO
excellence as usual from one of the best in the field
Great job, as per usual ! And THANK YOU for changing your audio. Sounds much better (despite the puns)
You can blame Doreen for the previous audio lol.. I was using her hand me down teacher headset and it was getting bad I know.
Very helpful. • Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway 🚂
What part of Michigan are you from?
very good and helpful. but most of us tend to RUSH things when doing certain scencs. how long did this step take you, a week? would be my guess
No, not a week. Trying to film everything makes it take longer in general, but this was captured over two afternoons. It took a lot longer to edit the video and narrate.
wow that's not long at all, I know am looking forward to doing some thing like that to my NEW layout. thanks
Hi Joey THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEO. Need additional info as you were saying that you add white glue with plaster paris. My question is what's the mixture ratio.
Thanks keep up with the great job
Kamarul, really I have no set mixture ratio for this but if I had to guess, I would say about 1/2 cup per time. "Time" meaning each time I go to mix up a batch. Looking at the raw footage, it looks like for each carton of Plaster, I got about three batches out of it. I think this side of the layout took about 2-1/2 cartons. for what you see in the video.
If you have worked with plaster before, each batch dries very quickly and the pan I am mixing in then has hardened plaster in it. The white glue keeps it from hardening completely and that way I don't have to clean the pan out between each batch. If I don't use the white glue, I have to wait in between each batch for it to dry and then scrape and knock it out or otherwise I have chunks in the new batch. More than anything in this video, I am using the white glue because of the paper mache method.
If I am just making rocks from plaster (see the "ROCKS" video) or just adding in some plaster to affix the rocks, I do not use the white glue. Again, see the "Rocks" video here on the channel ruclips.net/video/2CPiC2H2BgM/видео.html
Joey thanks for the reply, i guess i will have to do experiments on it as well. how ever from your explanation i can make my lucky guess.
I will start building my home town yard as soon as i have all parts with me. Mean time feel free to check up in google earth type TUMPAT STATION MALAYSIA maybe you can gave me some heads up for it.
Thanks again. Waiting for your new video soon.
HI, like what you are doing, but had a thought about putting a little color in the plaster & you can save a step, and an added advantage is if you plaster get chipped you still have color, Ho! I bet you don't have that happen, what happen to that GEM of yours, we miss her smile, ha ha ha!
You can certainly add paint to your mix and sometimes we do, however, for the sake of making the video, we wanted to show the plaster represented by itself first. That way we could show the stark contrast after paint.
Trackside Scenery That makes sense, good job...
Joey,
I want to learn more how you interfaced the incline to the back drop so it seemed seamless.
Where did you get the pictures of the tunnel rock face? thanks
Bob S
Photograps of a rock
Wall. As simple as that.
Joey I noticed that in a previous update you paint the track flat black. Did you have to protect the switch points at all or does the paint not affect them power wise? I model N scale so was wondering.
Keith, everything gets painted, whether it is now with the flat black or later with the weather painting (upcoming video for this layout) or you can see the other video on our channel "Weathering Track". Obviously, you have to clean the (rail head) after you paint, but a simple back and forth motion or running the switch machine back and forth after it is dry works just fine. If you are using older turnouts where the electricity is supplied at the points, maybe that might need to be addressed.
Portland cement is way stronger than plaster of Paris. Just paint it on.
Horsecrap camera work and video editing reminds me of my 5-year old son's first attempt to ride a bicycle
Hello, I have a question. At 4:23 in your video the backdrop piece with the trees seems upside down.Is that for a texture effect that not a lot of people will see? Or have I been up too late?
Hey Vinny! Well, you may be up to late my friend, but that is not the backdrop itself. I am using an old diorama backdrop as scrap for the "scenery back board". This sits in front of where the actual backdrop will be in that groove I point out. The diorama backdrop was mounted on Gatorboard and instead of using a new or freshly cut piece of Gatorboard, I was using this. That is what I meant by "recycled material".
So your eyes aren't playing tricks on you, you do see upside down trees, but it's just scrap pieces that I happen to be using. As you see as the video progresses, this area is never seen again. Now get some sleep. Joey
Hahahah, Thanks. I really like your approach to modeling and the videos in general. It's nice when people don't take everything so seriously and also your sense of humor is a bit skewered -I like that!
Awesome how to video