Volvo Ownership | Risk, Reward, and Car Advice
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- In this video, we discuss my long-term ownership of a Volvo XC90 and detail the problems and how I chose to deal with them. New SUVs and Cars are expensive so warranty and paint care and protection are also important topics in the video. I talk about the things I love and hate and travel to Chicago Auto Pros for further advice on car care. Other SUVs to consider, BMW X5, Mercedes ML, Audi Q7, Kia Telluride, and More.
Cover Shot Josh Sweeny
#volvo #problems #xc90
Index:
00:00 - 5:00 Why I chose the Volvo XC90
5:00 - 15:24 The Good Bad, and Amazing
15:24 - 26:54 Chicago Auto Pros Car Care Tips
26:54 Final Thoughts 
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Finally someone who can can be honest and not rave about every cars
Because he bought it. It's not a press car.
@@zaitcev0 even when it's sponsored he says a bit of negatives.
That's the reason I unsubscribed doug de muro.
@@rozetca Doug Demuro is sometimes very critical of cars, just watch his review of the Lexus LX or Infiniti Q50 or Mercedes Metris
@@kristians2704 Yeah but he’s only critical of cars for no reason. And doesn’t address the important things. A lot of his complaints just don’t apply with the owner base.
Glad to mentioned the car prices “40k is a lot for me”,.... car prices are crazy and are only possible due to finance.... the world has gone mad where 100k is entry to many Marques and models.
Mustang mach 1 in my country is $112k XD
@@dwade3202 Imports will always be pricey.
@@FXIIBeaver its not just that, literally in the country 50 miles from me, the car is cheaper for 40k dollars. My dumbass country has insane co2 tax and cars are generally much more expensive. Easy government theft.
@@dwade3202 ew. Government interference.
D Wade let me guess, Singapore/Germany?
As a Volvo tech, I’ll 100% recommend extended warranty 👍
Bought a '17 S60 T6 R-Design Platinum back in February. Got the 10 year unlimited mile warranty on it. Any reccomendation to keep it in good shape?
So with the 2016 or 2017 model years xc90 inscription years. Could you tell me how the model years did as far as reliability. Thinking about getting this in a month.
@@ryanjoseph8694 I have a 2017. I have had no major issues. I would recommend the xc90, even used. Edit: mine is also inscription. Well worth the extra imho. It is awesome.
@@hb2998 Well that’s good to know we will be getting our XC90 next week also inscription level with the air suspension, bowers and Wilkins, tow bar roof rails, booster seat pretty much fully loaded. Do you have a extended warranty on yours and if so who do you use if you don’t mind ?.
@@ryanjoseph8694 yes, i have 3 year extra for total of 8 years. I bought it because I have the air suspension and felt that might cause me troubles. No issues yet.
Begrudgingly bought an XC90 for my wife two years ago - man my doubts were wrong! Hands down the best car we’ve ever owned. Exceptionally engineered, incredible build quality and fit/finish, softest leathers, most comfortable seats, composed on the highway, and safety... I’ve since learned that nobody has EVER died in an XC90 - ever. One of the only mass production cars in the world to carry this. Also named the safest car in the world by a number of testing bodies around the world at the time it was released.
Wow. I didn’t know that! Cool fact
I don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers. I’ve been here since the beginning and the quality continues to amaze. Even after you defiled my 2015 mustang gt pp, I’d still be your friend.
Your last sentence kind of explains it. His brutally honest approach with nothing held back is certainly appreciated, but comes off as less entertaining/enjoyable compared to more upbeat channels. He’s like the George Carlin of reviewers. Once more people see it I think they’ll jump on board, but it’s not as universally appealing compared to the status quo.
Because demuro
Unless you're Doug, your channel probably is smaller than it deserves.
The automotive community is already being taken up by so many people and almost all of them do it the same way so people probably either settled for what they've got, or the people looking at these aren't necessarily here to subscribe in the first place. When you think about most channels: gaming, storytime, makeup, etc., All of that is content that will evolve and continue to provide entertainment. But people who are looking for a car, once they get that car, they're off the market. They don't need to be looking at other car reviews, so they aren't sticking around/subscribing to see more. This has got to be one of the least rewarding categories you can choose to do on RUclips, at least money wise. These guys get to have fun in their real lives of course, driving the latest and greatest from every maker and whatnot... But the demand will always be lower here than it is for much of other things you can do on YT.. because cars are expensive and chances are you can only choose one every 3 years at the quickest. Growth happens SLOOOOWLY, for everybody. This channel is no exception.
@@devongee1776 I find demuro boring as fuck. Kudos to him, but he ain’t for me.
@@johnandstephanie377 when he was first poppin up, he was pretty interesting. it was cool to see cars up close like that. but it grew stale very quickly and i hardly ever watch his vids anymore. any shmuck could do what demuro does to be honest. doing what mark does though, that is much more time consuming and intensive. demuro aint got a camera car or even a nice camera really.
Honestly, this kind of video is more of what the internet needs. $40k is a lot of money to most people. And while it’s cool to see content reviewers driving McLarens and Porsche Taycans, those are out of the scope of 99.9% of buyers. I much prefer to see something like this - about the practical realities of buying & maintaining a “normal” car - because it’s much more imminently helpful.
Safety, reliability, and fuel economy aren’t “fun”, but they’re realities for most people, and they play heavily on people’s decision-making.
I enjoy his stressing about protecting his comparatively expensive vehicle. One of us…
Reliability is the big one. There is a reason all the older toyotas/hondas with port injected N/A engines are holding their value, or appreciating in value. Those cars were built to last. Today's world of DI turbo 4 cyls with high pressure fuel pumps, plastic water/oil pump shrouds, etc are built with a short useful life in mind. So you will pay double what the old cars used to cost only for them to last 1/3 as long. You are better off leasing most (not all) new cars and swapping them out every 3 years.
@@realbigtuna667 leasing is for idiots and the rich.
I agree. So often people show a beautiful luxury car or even a premium car but never go over the ridiculous upcharges and reliability issues that often accompany them. They also don't show the reality of people struggling to afford these which is the case for the vast majority. I suppose they assume everyone leases these things for 36 months and then gets rid of it so they don't have to worry about long term actual ownership of the car they are reviewing
@@realbigtuna667 leasing is a horrible idea. I bought a nice 2012 Outback Limited and haven't had a car payment or mechanical issues yet. It's been great, and the best part is no dealership haggling, no stressing about making the next car payment, no worrying about what happens if I lose my job and I have to wonder how I can afford a 300-400 dollar a month lease. Nothing. I just save money each year I own the thing, it's wonderful. Leasing is only good if you're going to buy a big fancy German or British product that will need oodles of repairs
I've been driving Volvo for 35 years. I'm 6ft tall and I have never found another marque where the seats are so consistently comfortable for long journeys.
Good to know, as I'm 5' 9" and most people don't get the height question.
volvo has the best seats of any car ive ever driven
I've actually had trips where I got into the car with a sore back (e.g. from a heavy rucksack) and arrived with no aches/pains at all. This is why I bought the car, primarily, owing to a bad back. But even I'm surprised by how good the seats are.
I appreciate Mark sharing the concerns of the common man and approaching costs as a matter of the majority of viewers realistic budget. I agree that spending $30k-$40k of hard earned money is a lot! He is absolute correct. Costs of vehicles and so many commodities are getting out of hand.
Totally agree. I find it funny that entry-level crossovers start at 25-32,000 dollars. That's obscene. No wonder nobody has 400 dollars for an emergency. When you're a young adult, 25,000 on a car is an extravagance that few can afford unless they are the rare type of young adult making six figures. Even then, if you make 120,000, your taxed and end up bringing home 85,000, (if you live in the northeast, typically) then add rent, then add food, cost of living, etc. It all boils down to everyone being forced to lease or finance and never own because nobody should sacrifice half a years salary on a depreciating asset that does nothing but take you from your job and back
@@colechapman6976 or be financially smart and just buy a used car?
@@nowaybruh145
Yes, buy a used Lexus.
@@oneviwatara9384 yep, that's what I did, got my wife a 2004 LX470 5 years ago, put 75,000 trouble free miles on it so far...
This is what I want from Mark, his experiences with cars and reasons why someone choose a certain type of car. Thanks, Mr Goose
Agree. I think I enjoyed this long term review and upkeep video better than his recent reviews. Reminds me of his old long-form reviews
Agreed. And it was great he acknowledges the shortcomings of the xc90. I don’t like it when owner reviewers (eg most Tesla owner reviews) think their car is perfect.
@@Wasabi9111 Elon Musk is the reincarnation of Noah and the Model 3 is the Arc to carry us to an electrified salvation. He can do no wrong, how dare you defile the work of the chosen one!
"One of my LOVERS" haha good one. We all know Jack is your only lover.
🤣
He is talking about the Volvo service team, which he spends so much time with, Jack is getting suspicious.
Damn, man... Volvo... now you're speaking my language! (Lifelong Volvo owner here for 25+ years)
In my experience of cars = 52 years, reliability has a lot to do with how you look after the vehicle, that is the way you drive it, doing the correct servicing with quality lubricants and parts. My first cars were an Austin A40 to learn in, then a new Mini, then a Datsun over my first four or five years. Since then I have owned various brands, Honda Toyota, Ford, Subaru, Volvo, and Jeep and to be honest haven’t had any reliability issues with any of them.
I currently own a 2014 Volvo XC60 D5 Luxury with extras…….a car which cost around $75,000 new in Australia (AUD).
I bought it with 98,000 kilometres (67,000 miles) on the clock in excellent condition and paid $22,000 for it. This is the way to buy a luxury car including a Volvo.
This car is an absolute pleasure to drive, very comfortable with good handling and excellent fuel economy. If something goes wrong with it, I’ll fix it because it’s worth fixing. So far at 112,000 kilometres all is well and the vehicle feels as solid and quiet as a new one. Happy. 😎
Never purchase a new luxury car, either lease it or buy a CPO.
Nothing steers you into buying a Volvo like getting in a crash!
That is exactly why I got my first Volvo - a crash on the autobahn going 80 miles / 130 KMH.
Or simply steers you out of a 90's car.
volvo was a leader in the area but it wasn't because others didn't know how to do it - others just didn't consider it worthwhile to spend money in that field. however, with standardizations and regulations put by governments and insurance agencies, others eventually started to invest in this field. now they have matched volvo's safety in many ways by spending more time and money. although volvo remains good in safety, it's not unique like it once was.
According to IIHS Status Report published on May, 2020, Volvo XC60 4WD (model years 2014-17) has the worst fatality rate, almost double the rate of the next worst, Lexus NX 200t 2WD -- the 4WD version has the best rate, btw -- in the mid-size Luxury SUV segment. The fatality rates for Kia Sorrento 4WD and Hyundai Santa Fe 2WD/4WD are less than half the Volvo's rate. I also looked at IIHS report from 2017 (for model years 2011-2014), Volvol's S60 and XC60 were just in the middle of the pack -- the XC60 just ahead of Lincoln/Cadillac.
So I must ask, are Volvo owners bad drivers?
Nothing makes you realize that Volvo is just a passenger vehicle, not a tank like getting in a crash. However, most people's Volvo breaks down before that.
The ghosts of my dearly departed SAABs look on with envy wishing they could get the Goose treatment.
I've got an '03 9-3 and the poor thing looks like one of those background vehicles they use in post-apocalypse movies...
We don't have the kind of harsh winters in Romania like we used to, so the underside's not that bad, but the years have turned the exterior into a mess.
And what the guy said about acidic things, when I bought it from the previous owner it'd been parked in his yard under a tree for a little over a year, and the tree sap just dripped on the trunk lid. The top of the thing is now like a matte black, like someone painted it the wrong color, all the clear is just gone.
When I got it home and washed it, where there had been bird droppings they'd eaten all the way through the paint to the metal. As if I needed one more reason to despise pigeons...
You don’t even know!
Ah yes, Swedish Automobile Always Broken :P
Sold my 2001 9-5 Aero with manual trans and the BBS optional wheels a few years back. Had 142k miles when I sold it to a Saab enthusiast. Still had the original clutch, and not a single issue in all of those miles aside from a cracked coolant crossover pipe at around 130k. Still ran great, but the turbo was on its way out and the clutch was just about at the point where it needed to be replaced. Hope that guy still has it. Great car and I miss it.
Saab's are wonderfully unique cars with a distinct style that will forever be timeless to me. Last year I bought a '10 9-3 Aero with the six speed and I love the car dearly. Too bad parts are getting rarer by the day, I have to take it to a specialist for repairs since he has the hookup. If only GM hadn't run them into the ground...
Excellent video on the ownership experience of these cars. I work at an independent Volvo shop and these are things I share with people when they’re looking to buy a newer model. I currently own 11 older Volvos and while they offer everything I could want and need in a car, most people aren’t too keen on the ownership of these. Always great content from you guys and it’s nice to know and hear actual car enthusiasts embracing one of the safest car companies on the planet!
Great video! I am a new XC40 owner and can relate to many of your points even though our models are different. I loved your comment about the alarms. The first time I realized that my Volvo is not going to harangue me endlessly about my seatbelt or hatch being open, that I was thrilled. It’s like my car was respecting me! Keep up the great work. You have created one of my favorite channels, again, by talking to me like an adult!
Imagine you're a salesman and he shows up to purchase a car. 😅
@Yirlani you missed the joke but I appreciate the insight.
Most salespeople are not like enthusiasts who know all the details.
@@astronmr20 Very true! It's shocking how little car salesmen know about the product they're selling. A couple years ago, I was at a Toyota dealership, putting in an order for a new Corolla (I wanted a manual, which wasn't on the lot, so the salesman did a factory order for me). Anyway, I brought my mom along, and I was explaining to her that the automatic Corollas have a CVT. So if anyone wants a conventional automatic transmission, they need to get a Camry, which shares the same 8-speed transmission as the RAV4. The salesman "corrected" me, telling me that the Camry has a CVT, and so does the RAV4. Um, no. Wow this dude never even bothered to read the window stickers, or watch a couple RUclips videos. Seriously.
@@hamsterama it’s quite disappointing to see honestly. Shame these guys get paid to basically do nothing
@@georgetheodossopoulos7827 Yes, I can't understand how someone can know nothing about the product they're selling. They don't need to be car enthusiasts, but there's no excuse for not knowing basic details. My knowledge of which transmissions are in which Toyota models comes from watching car reviews on RUclips. It isn't some secret, specialized knowledge. But hey, to that salesman's credit, he was really easy to work with, and didn't try to cheat me. So, if I were looking for another car, I'd buy from him again. But he really should know some basic facts about cars!
I love your review vidoes, but this no-BS "story time" is just fantastic.
This is a beautiful Volvo Mark! Congratulations! It’s nice to see others like me who also are meticulous about their paint, and as you mentioned the pile of the carpet. I think about and look at those items often with my cars and I appreciate the details of these machines. I agree with the premise of everything you said. In the closing you mentioned a fraction of the protection process as being “Mental” and it really is! You’ve protected your investment here and there is a perception of value there.
The best thing about this video is that it feels like a friend is talking to you, honestly, without pretense. This was great. I have a 2019 XC-40 and, even with its flaws, I remain very pleased with it. I do wish the Bowers and Wilkins had been available.
Love how he can relate to $40k being a lot of money for a car. It truly is and he mentioned he thinks most people can’t truly afford these things and he’s right!! People are taking out 96 month loans just to afford the monthly payment and they still end up underwater or having to get rid of the car and roll negative equity into something else. It’s absolutely crazy how expensive cars are. After you save for retirement, pay health insurance, mortgage, food, schooling, etc how are people affording more than a $20k payment!!
I have "bought" outright every car since I was 25.Once you buy one you now have equity.Also get a lower car then you can afford.I just bought a new CX-30 outright after selling a Stinger and I never had anything more then a middle class paying job--it is all about personal responsibility.95% of folks buy more car then they need.Instead of putting 35k down on a q3 or AMG 45 GLA--I was able to buy a CX-30.95% of people at least at the BMW near me finance their cars--so I chuckle when I see that new bimmer--knowing the person probably has a 700 dollar a month car payment on something that will be under water in 2 years.Cars have gotten way better and a 30k car today has features a 100k car had 10 years ago.My CX-30 can hit a mid 5 second to 60--which is on par with a100k mercedes 15 years ago.I love cars--but learned early on if you spend wisely you can "own" something nice without breaking the bank.Also--never finance--buy something older outright and have a mechanic check it.If you take care of cars they are reliable.I owned an olds aurorau years ago--supposedly one of the worst lemons ever made and I never had a problem with it because I had the basic maintnenece done.
@@khronin I've done the same thing. I am currently driving a 2012 Outback 2.5i Limited. I bought it outright freshman year of college a few years ago and I still drive it now that I am graduating soon. It's so nice not having to worry about 500-dollar payments for 36 months or more. Liberating actually. I could've probably leased a more expensive newer vehicle, but I didn't, and will likely own the car for 4 or 5 more years before buying another used car. I couldn't imagine spending more than 35k because the vast majority in this nation barely make over 65k, and 30k is half of someone's salary. Crazy to think people choose to spend half their salary on something as stupid as a vehicle.
@@colechapman6976 Yeah--I just sold the Mazda for a 2k profit and now own a kona N. am also rt at 40 years old and I am already semi retired because of being careful with money.Also the german luxury cars--are also the worst money pits by far--they lose the most value--have the lowest warranty coverage and the highest repairs.I just rented a Q3 Audi--57k was the sticker for it fully loaded--all it had on my kona was expensive leather and AWD--paid 35k for the Kona N
That $40k purchase price is BANANAS - no one could say no to that.
Edit: holy hell those repairs... that's like $15k in less than a year without the bumper to bumper you got - thank God you grabbed that.
Lol, volvo has succeeded in becoming just as unreliable as the germans.
@@caglioso shut up
@@caglioso if you get all the options yeah true sadly. The regular t5 2.0t with fwd and normal suspension will probably be as reliable as an accord...however it sucks you have to limit yourself to base models to not worry about your car breaking
@@caglioso I'm pretty sure this "German cars = unreliable" is just an american misconception/meme at this point. Most german vehicles are pretty alright in terms of reliability, though a bit high maintenance because they require more oil changes than japanese/korean cars. At least 40% of the vehicles in my country are german, 20% Volvos and the rest japanese,korean brands (and maybe a pinch of fiat/Peugeot)
@@RaGeAlucard found the hyper sensitive insecure one. Enjoy your maintenance plan.
I persuaded my family to buy a V90CC wagon instead of other luxury brands SUVs and we all think that’s one of the best choice we made on cars. And the Bowers and Wilkins system is just a must have on any Volvos, just so so great
No amount of warranty extension would offset the disruption to one's daily life having to run to the dealer every few weeks to fix the next thing that breaks. And there will ALWAYS be something that breaks next on these. Was very tempted to go with an S90 CPO and upgrade the warranty as you have done but stayed with Lexus in the end. RIP to your Civic - glad you were OK!
Exactly, that's just it. If you're working 7 days a week as Mark said he does, this factor alone would have made it a hard pass for me. When you need a work vehicle, especially to go cross country often as said he would use it for, it's got to be reliable. In a few years we'll be watching a "Why I dumped the XC90" video.
with how much i go out of town reliability cant be a question, i lose too much money if i have to take off work even if the warranty work is free. i got a toyota for the sake of peace of mind
@@JL-rj9fl lol you called it!
@@stefanrichard01 lol. Poor Mark... now he's playing Russian roulette with that used X7 he bought to replace it with. I can't see him keeping that much more than a year before he dumps that one too.
Luxury will only be worth it if it comes with peace of mind. Not having to worry about warranty, repairs and issues and cost of ownership is what you need from your luxury cars. Toyota and Lexus are the only cars you can trust out of warranty periods.
Thank you for emphasizing the importance of buying an extended warranty and the tire and wheel package when buying a Volvo or any European luxury car. It's not even optional, it's a necessity unless you intend on paying much more for repairs.
This video reminded me why we're a Japanse family now.
Volvo is Chicom trash. They haven’t been European owned for almost a decade
We had a used Volvo. Worst car related mistake we ever did. European cant build a car to save their life.
@@daniels2761 no kidding. My Lexus and Acura over 200k miles just need oil changes. While still maintaining a refined, quiet, ride. Did I mention they were less than $20k? Blows my mind that people would still choose euro junk
@@supersabrosinho they feel the need to impress the hens in the school drop off line and soccer practice. Hubby needs to try to impress brother-in-law or golfing buddies. Meanwhile they have no money going into 529 plans and bare minimum for retirement savings.
Mark, I've owned my XC90 R Design for over 5 years. You are spot on with every pro and every con you mentioned. I've gotten to know my service advisor well, but I'm always well taken care of from the dealer. And despite the issues I've had with the car, it is simply my favorite. The looks are timeless, the interior space is comfortable, striking, and incredibly useable, and it's fairly peppy (considering its heft and small displacement). There still is no SUV I'd rather own, all these years later. Now, if you excuse me, I have to go schedule another repair.
But why? Why buy such an expensive vehicle that needs repairs that cost +1,000? The Huyndai Palisade, Kia Telluride, Genesis brand are all more reliable and cost less
@HA R exactly i just dont understand
@@har9312 As someone who has owned a 2011 and (now) 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe, I hear you so loud on the reliability. Our Hyundai's have never given us any problems. My husband had a CPO 2012 Audi A4 Avant that required a MAJOR repair about 2 years into ownership (that the extended warranty did not cover). When the Audi was totaled in our driveway (by a teenager on a joyride in his BMW), I swore that I would NEVER own another luxury car. And yet, here I am lusting over an XC90. I think it has to do with the mystique of the luxury brand. My Santa Fe Ultimate has more luxury and safety features than I could have ever dreamed of, but I still turn my head when I see those Thor's Hammer headlights coming down the road.
@@rachelposadafletcher6938 the Santa Fe has EVERYTHING any of the luxury brands offer. My friend has an XC40 and it has been a NIGHTMARE. He drives his 2006 civic all the time because the Volvo SUV is always in the shop
@@har9312 unless u own one of about 200k units from 09 or 11 thru '15, with engine failure eventually.
I own a 2020 XC60 T8 RECHARGE. Best car I have ever owned. Completely satisfied. No problems at all.
The B&W is the reason I will probably never sell this vehicle. Individual Stage with a bit of wrap around is the best mode IMHO. The concert hall mode is a reverb gimmick. I have the 2016 R-Design with air suspension and loaded. have 58K miles on it. All issues were taken care of while under warranty. Last 20K miles: 0 issues.
I used to work for Volvo. They pour money into safety and leading edge technology instead of reliability and quality. It’s a non stop repair case on wheels.
Latter half of that statement must be in reference to the amount of production that happens in China, if I'm not mistaken. Last I heard, Polestar was a wholly Chinese brand aside from the engineering.
In sweden any new volvo has had the most customer complaints and callbacks
? My 2020 S60 hasn't been in once, except for 11/20 when I had a warped rotor. My 2012 S60 was solid as a rock until my brother whacked a tree, and my 09 S60 2.5T beater is rock solid too. Unless you mean the chinese production models, I can't agree.
On a side note. The new XC40 is a cheap pile of shit for the price
But a Hyundai.
@@4.6_boat Well that’s a 2020... may not be the best example.
This was a very satisfying video to watch. You choosing to add the 1 million mile Volvo backed extended warranty, tire and wheel package (which you've used 2 times already), clear bra, paint protection, ceramic coating etc. You're doing everything that a new car owner, especially a new luxury car owner should do and sadly most don't.
It is your money, so why not? But none will help resale value in the end. Perfect cars with 250,000 miles don't really sell for more from their faded, scratched, and dented counterparts.
Yeah. I'm really considering a s60 t5 with just the 2.0 turbo and regular suspension. I'm worried about reliability but it's also probably the least mechanically complicated car they make. Soooo much less to go wrong. So I'm not sure if I should go for that warranty
@@daniels2761 If I buy a car brand new, I will be long dead before it reaches 250,000 miles since I don't drive much. I just want it to look attractive and clean while I own it.
This video was great to see. I have owned a 2017 XC90, and presently a 2019 XC90 Inscription. Definitely share the same frustration with the darn brake rotors, but the overall comfort, drivability and usability of the XC90 has been fantastic. I stumbled onto this video as my lease is coming to a close and I'm considering buying the car and keeping it, vs. looking to another brand's new suv. The other SUV just doesn't come close in terms of features, materials, audio system and the list goes on. I do my own detailing so I've had the ceramic coat on since the first week of ownership. My car has 25,000 miles now and still looks new. I also have a great dealership here in PA, and they take good care of me and the car. Another reason I was weary of going for a different car. Your video has knocked me off the fence of moving to another brand suv. I'll be keeping my XC90 and getting that warranty for sure!! Thanks for doing this video!!
We got a CPO XC-60 T6 in July. Loaded with every option that comes on the Momemtum model except an upgraded sound sytem and the Polestar option. Only went with the 7 year extended warranty. Drove across country, 3700 miles, at the beginning of September. The car operated flawlessly. The best and most comfortable drive I have ever taken in a car. Not one twinge from my cranky lower back and my rear end never got tired. Every morning I felt as refreshed as I did at the beginning. Yeah, the system takes a minute or so to boot up but I don't need it right off the bat. No profile issues as our profiles are keyed to our keys. When I approach and unlock my profile is being loaded. Best of all, the wife loves the car. Not a problem so far except for a replaced washer pump under warranty. No sqeaks, no rattles, no thumps. Not one extraneous sound that should not be there.
5 years of ownership my 2016 V60 Polestar has been really good. Only had one issue. Front strut mount replaced and that’s it. So far so good
Get rid of it....now!!!!! You’re about to face thousands in repairs. I had no problems for five years either. Then came the sixth year of hell.
My polestar, after 2000kms in the shop for 3 months, whilst trying to fault find the issue. Turns it was the supercharger bypass valve! Sold it immediately after!
@@vc8160 The 2L 4 cylinder sucks. Its nowhere near as reliable as the inline
@@jtee5957 Year 6 and still rock solid. I do my schedule maintenance every year.
I love watching these car videos, but man, this is a reminder that I have zero interest in ever buying a new (or even a moderately-priced used) car. You’re a better man than I am!
You are absolutely correct and I agree! I always say cars are rolling liabilities
All your videos are fantastic. Been following for 7 years now, but this one was also EXACTLY what I needed. Thanks!!
Two things
1. I appreciate again the different formula you did with this video. It truly is great to mix it up a little. PLEASE KEEP DOING THIS 🙏
2. I think we can all appreciate how far you have come since doing donuts with a lancer to where you are now making art like this
Thanks Mark! Half way through my XC90 RDesign lease, was using your reviews from 2 to 3 yes ago to help me decide. My 2019 XC90 has Polestar, Bowers, Air Suspension, have taken it off road (Appalachia, it's decent surprisingly), love the audio and highway drive (I do 6-8+ hr drives) and appreciate the safety when my wife and daughter are inside!
admit it @savagegeese, the real reason you needed this car was the Bowers and Wilkins audio option :-)
That's one of the reasons I bought my 2020 V60 Cross Country, it's like a sound orgasm.
I’ve grown to absolutely love this channel.
Great video delivery. While i love entertaining videos from Cammisa and Hagerty, videos delivered with this calm, collected, not afraid to piss in anyones cheerios type attitude felte genuine and sincere. Your spirit reminds me of myself. The 7 day a weeker, no down time, no time for routine maintenance crap in my life bc of all the things im doing to help others and do for other people. Your tone, expressions and even silly mocking body gestures of other car dudes towards the end was spot on what many of us feel on the inside but rarely state openly. The idea that there are other people who are know what the end result they are looking for but arent sure how to go about getting it was just 100% spot on. Many of us know what we would like as a finished product but have our own day jobs and are not experts in the field of how to get what we want. I really felt like the coatings team you chose took the time to understand that and they explained everything to you in a teaching and guiding manner, not in a salesy or condescending manner.
I subscribed. Please make more content like this. Keep it genuine!❤❤
From the warnings about owning a newer car like this out of warranty to what to do for any used (but not old) car for paint protection, just wow - lots of food for thought. Thanks for putting the time into this content, Mark.
Peter Francis Geraci ads were part of my childhood thank you Mr. Goose
His office was right next to Victory Auto Wreckers.
Haha classic.I remember my moms friend going on a date with him.Was as boring and monotone as his ads
My wife and I are strongly considering getting an XC90. This video was perfect man. Thanks so much for putting out quality content!
I worked as a crash test Engineer in 2005-2006. Back then, and could be the case still, Side impacts had a higher probability of fatalities then all other accidents, front, rear, rollover. I am glad you survived that accident. I do miss the old civics otherwise.
As a Swede this makes me weirdly proud, a little sad its been in the shop that much. Never had problems with my 2015 S60 but this is a bit more complicated so that makes sense.
I have a feeling us Americans aren't getting the same quality you Europeans get out of audi, BMW, Volvo, saab, mercedes especially. Those cars are so shit here, break every time and parts were expensive. Love to hear about the general experience over there?
@@MrNightpwner I actually live in the States but have worked many years at dealerships in Sweden too.
The cars are generally the same, there are two big differences imo - luxury cars come to the U.S. with mostly gas engines and they're always fully equipped. It's not uncommon to see a stick shift gearbox, manual adjusting cloth seats etc in Europe.
The smaller diesel engines are a bit more reliable (outliers exist obviously) and less equipment is obviously less things to worry about.
My dads S60 was the worst thing ever. We had to get rid of it after less than a year. European branded and built. Sure it was used but so is every other car we have.
We learned our lesson we will buy cars from the folks who can actually build cars. Toyota Lexus. We have had a total of 4 and all have been great to us.
@@baronvonjo1929 If it's the 2018 version then it's not built in europe, but in the US or China. Never had big issues with Volvo, and my friends kept buying Volvo without any issues so far. I've driven an v40, XC60, XC40 and a V60 personally, and the only issues I've had were the electronic boot not working and some problems with the stop/start in the newer cars - all very minor. I'm not sure what model you had, but the D3/D4/T4/T5 models were pretty reliable
@@MrNightpwner europeans have higher tolerance for repairs and high maintenance cost. More willing to put up with issues for the sake of technology.
I bought a 2017 S90 T6 inscription last year, and your review was a large factor in my decision to purchase it. I appreciate high quality audio in vehicles, and it's great to see a car reviewer that expands on that factor. Its unreal how high quality the B&W system is at a used car market price. Please keep informing your audience on that! It also inspires my confidence in ownership that you chose to purchase a Volvo as well. Thanks for the consistently great content; you have found an appreciative subscriber here.
How your experience mean while ?
@@yankylebowitz6361 It's been great. Quiet, comfortable, and looks great. Just missing a larger displacement engine like I used to have in my Q50. The power is adequate, but the sound and feel aren't the same. Overall, great car at the price if you're looking for luxury over sportiness.
What's your mileage now? I'm really considering one of these.
@@alinazang6651 I bought it with 17,000 miles almost 2 years ago. I'm at 36,000 now with no mechanical issues whatsoever. I am religious about following the recommended maintenance plan with this vehicle. I plan to drive it for at least 5 more years or so, hopefully nothing catastrophic occurs!
@@dylanward9759I'm planning on getting the same car but undecided between the T5 and T6, would like to not have the supercharger, but I would LOVE to have Bowers & wilkins
Love this format, Mark. You can't pay people to give this kind of information and experience.
I can confirm 40 grand is a very large amount of money.
That's just the cost of an average car.
@@ChickenC0re if its not alot of money why do people not pay cash then and always finance for 5+ years
@@didafm It is a lot of money. My point is, is that 50% pay more than that. It's ridiculous.
@@ChickenC0re ya and those people have to be slaves at work and they can't retire early hahah
@@didafm Some people do pay cash, it often makes more sense to finance. For example my credit score required such a payment to go higher as I wasn’t spending much at all
This is pure gold from the best channel on RUclips hands down. I'm looking between a Volvo S60 T8, Audi S5 Sportback, and Genesis G70 (3.3L) for my next vehicle, and it's great to see some REAL HONEST ownership points, both good and bad about Volvo. It truly doesn't get any better than this.
That's hands down the best looking XC90 I've seen of the current generation
I think when it comes to cad review channels this one is the most detailed and user experience oriented not only when driving but as a cost effectiveness guide.
I know this is an old video, you probably will never see this, but I’ve never enjoyed a car review video as much as I enjoyed this one. (My sister just got this exact model so I wanted to see what kind of vehicle she’s getting into)
Just loved how you described the various items whether it’s things you like or things you aren’t crazy about, your descriptions & suggestions came across like a friend telling me about their vehicle.
I could go on & on but won’t; I rarely comment on videos, especially car reviews, but had to let you know how much I enjoyed this particular review.
Thanks for showing what a true car review should be; most seem to grab the dealer brochure & repeat the same thing I can read on the manufacturer website.
Bravo 👏
I learned a lot about the exterior care and it was great to see the professional approach to getting it treated. Your personal thoughts on this were insightful and on point. Excellent video from start to finish.
I was honestly looking at the s90 T6 CPO with the warranty. This is great!
Do it. I absolutely love my S90, extended wheelbase, Pilot Assist, ruclips.net/video/pn5NUMp63Hg/видео.html
Safety seems to be so overlooked in the YT community. I'd love to drive an 80 series Landcruiser every day just as much as the next guy.. or a 90s Tacoma. But I would NOT want to get in a crash in one of those! For that reason, I wouldn't drive a non-modern car every day.
Thanks for this video! In the market now for a used/CPO, and this is exactly the kind of info someone like myself would need to hear. Special thanks for calling out the super/turbo engine/only buy it with a warranty in these, i had wondering what long term care of those was like. 👍🏾🙏🏾
Great video! Appreciate your objective feedback on a car I've been on the fence about buying for a year or so now. The only thing missing is your input on fuel economy. My current suv is a gas guzzler so I want as much efficiency as possible.
Volvo CPO is still one of the best deals around. They always have issues, ours (P3 generation) nerfed a turbo, turbo oil line seals, two! Power steering pumps, and a few minor issues in the first 3 years of ownership. Since then it’s been smooth sailing with just regular wear and tear items. The warranty is def worth it to smooth out the teething problems they seem to have.
Whoa, massively helpful video. I wasn't expecting to learn all the ins and outs of paint correction, ceramic, protective film. Now I know exactly what to ask for when I get my next car.
As someone that's going to be in the market for a car soon, you should definitely do more videos like this it was very informative
Now this is a video relevant to my interests. Savage Geese, welcome to the GOAT Crew.
That was a damn good video goose, loved how you included the protection aspect
Really grateful for your having shared such a thoughtful and meaningful experience with us! I am new to all of this and to understanding the world of leasing vs. buying and your videos are so helpful!
Honest, comprehensive, knowledgeable, straight talk review 👍🏽
Nice, but given the mechanical issues, there's no way I could commit to a car like this.
You, my friend, have the best XC 90 content I have found to date!! Thank you. The warranty might have saved me from a lot of expensive repairs. Sounds like I want to find a CPO with Volvo warranty.
My favorite video so far. I will definitely get some paint protection film for my car. Great work. Thank you for all the valuable information. Love your Volvo!
I love your approach to this Vid. It was so practical. To the every day driver they need to here it this way.
Thank you
Man, I’ve got the Volvo xc90 2017 and I’ve loved every bit of it. It drives so good every time I step in it and haven’t had anything broken in the 60,000 miles it has. Supercharger and turbo are the way to go!
We need more videos like this man!! Awesome awesome video!
I have a 2010 XC90 R-Design and just bought a 2018 XC90 R-Design in Bursting Blue 1 week ago! I love them. It was a no-brainer to buy it, it was a 1 owner under 50k miles and I bought it for $36k. I did buy the T5 (no 3rd row, while my 2010 R-Design has the 3rd row, I never use it, no I'm not selling it). Well, all of the ones like mine and the T6 with more mileage and 2017, 2018, 2019 with 65k or 70k miles for $45K. So Thanks to Carmax, I had it transported from Naples to NC. Took them forever to get my title, but it was worth it! Growing up my parents always had Volvos. Carmax only had 6 XC90s throughout the country and 3 R-Designs, my 2018, 2017, and 2019 ($49k).
Great video Mark!! Very informative and entertaining as always, and that’s why we love you!!! Keep up the fantastic work!!
We recently bought a 2018 Volvo XC90 and compared it to everything else on the market including the new MDX. Hands down the vehicle is fun to drive and the T6 is meant to be enjoyed on an open road. Thanks for confirming our choice!
I don’t even plan to purchase a Volvo but I watched this video as if I was.
Amazing.
I’ve have a 2019 xc90 t6 since new and haven’t had one issue ever with it!! At 60k now 💪🏼
Loved this format and coverage of the decisions and ownership optimization needed to enjoy a nice vehicle
We picked up a 2019 XC90 inscription new based on your review a few years ago. The B&W system was the clincher. Absolutely love the car, it's been very reliable so far. Couldn't be happier driving this to work, we were thinking about a XC90 T8 recharge next year, but I'm starting to rethink that based on the complexity.
Did you buy an extended warranty?
@@prabeeshsidhu No, we don't anticipate holding on to it out of warranty
@@aircanuck nice! Do you use the electric component often? Just deciding between the t8 and t6 but I feel like the electric component may be useless and more risky out of warranty even though I’m planning on maxing out the extended warranty
@@prabeeshsidhu Sorry, I wasn't clear, we currently just have the T6, were thinking of going T8 next year. I share the exact same concerns as yourself. I haven't read anything that terrible on the reliability yet!
@@aircanuck my apologies I misread that too. I might just hold off on the t8. New technology is better left to be tested IMO. It’ll only be good after a few variations. It also has an effect on the size of the gas tank. T6 is 71 L while T8 is 50L. I only wish Volvo provided more colours! Good luck on your potential buy ahah maybe I’ll update this post when we pick up the car !
I appreciate this video, I've been considering a (cpo) volvo for my next car next year. I think the notes about what's gone wrong and the infotainment system will definitely weigh into my shopping decision and whether I get an extended warranty.
Thank you Mark! I’m your target market - researching V60 - and this was very helpful advice that will definitely affect my decision.
Thanks for the honest discussion about the maintenance. This is what keeps me in the Acura/Lexus SUV camp. As an owner of 11yr old+ MDX and 11yr old+ LX (both bought new) no issues just follow manufacturer maintenance recommendations.
best video in a long time - keep it up mark
I subscribed to SG and now I don’t need my daily therapy sessions.
Daily.. lol
Mark, I really really really appreciate your honesty and real world lengthy review for us out there. I owned a 2007 XC90 and loved it. Had it for 13 years but had to sell it after pouring $12k the last few years. I took a 2 year break from Volvo and now want to buy a 2020-22 XC90. I know it's worth it but the high maintenance cost is what kills me. With these newer technologies, I know it will be more expensive. I don't think buying an extended warranty will cover everything. As much as I love XC90s I'm not sure I want the headaches to hit the service shop regardless of extended warranty coverage (or not after fighting with tech guy when it's not covered). If I had the luxury of paying for maintenance anytime I need......I'd buy it all over again. But unfortunately, I'm going to play safe with Lexus or alike. Again, I truly appreciate your humble approach to the review. Thank you, Alec
Mark, a huge THANK YOU! Keep up the awesome work.
Thank you for this video, confirmed my suspicions around reliability and for that matter with regard to so many cars in general being just far too complex mechanically. Where do apparently so many people, get so much money to spend on cars? Especially when almost none of them will last 10 years now, it's a mystery to me.
Turbo charging + super charging + air suspension = Lease only. But you got a great deal on this one used. Great warranty deal. Beautiful vehicle.
Great honest post. Thank you for your honesty and no filter review
The BEST and most HONEST car review EVER!!!! Thank you!!!
I feel your pain! Cars and everything else is stupid expensive now. I don't understand how people can afford anything. My guess is every one is living the american dream to max and just keep swiping the Sh*t outta that AMEX. I contemplated hard doing PPF and ceramic on my Elise but its 15 years old and would basically need to be repainted first, so I just tell people, "it's a driver" lol. Keep the videos coming GOOSE
84 Month car loans, cheap credit, and debt out the wazoo. The only people with any money are the absolutely stinking rich and the very modest people that live next door ... and they're driving a 15 year old V70 that they bought used for a steal.
A lot of people leasing which allows you to get a much nicer car that you can't afford.
Looking forward to more updates on this acquisition. Everything about Mark is so dead genuine including the sarcasm and self loathing. 😂
Thank you so much for this wonderful video I love that you really kept it real with your ranting and also with the reality check. You put it into a perspective that no one really else does what we all really go through thank you again
I did exactly what you did, except i bought a 2018 xc60 rdesign during the pandemic for 34k. the pros and cons you mentioned are spot on. I came from the xc90 momentum..so going to a xc60 rdesign definitely a change in driving dynamics and function. Thanks for the vid!
I love the long form deep dive videos
Nice warranty. You're going to have a new car by the end of that.
If you replace every part on a car over time... is it the same car?
@@tim3172 it's still A car :P
I say this is terrible advice. 10K is way too much for warranty. That 's enough to buy a couple of cheap used cars . And 40K for a used car...wow. Bad call...
@@ML_1515 He doesn't want a cheap used car. He knows the Volvo and its risk factors. The deal is worth it to him and I agree.
Thanks for this - great thoughts on long-term protection. The "whys" that most videos seem to miss in favor of the "what" and "how much" or product promotion.
My friend is on her second Volvo, and they were ALWAYS in the shop. ALWAYS!!
My first car was a '97 Volvo 850 GLT. I loved that car, and it truly made me appreciate Volvo's. Most importantly, it taught me how important having a safe car would be. The downfall was repairs. I mean, places wouldn't even bother to look at it. I've since then moved on to Acura's, and haven't regretted it. I don't think I could afford a new Volvo, especially with those repairs.
I think Acura and Lexus would be the only new luxury cars I'd even get close to
@@LLG47 Agreed. I'm not a huge personal fan of Lexus, but their reliability is excellent.
I had a 2016 XC90 and now a 2019 XC60 ... you're right the timeless look of these designs is what makes them what they are. I don't think a trendy Telluride or Palisade will look fresh 4-5 years down the line. I also have almost zero issues with both cars over the last 5 years. I know this is not the norm but maybe it's the base T5 engine both have and keeping the tech minimal not "fully loaded"
Great narration and information. Appreciate the solid logical clear discussion style, based on personal experience.
I should have known you are a professional photographer! I have watched many of your videos and I have often remarked to myself how your cinematography is on a different level when compared to other RUclips car review channels.