Collective action is actually really good on arc and stasis since they make way more elemental pickups than other classes, allowing you to stack up the duration to 30 seconds
I already got demo and incandescent and I love it, it’s so good. Also, the rocket from the dungeon is great for the final boss. It can get tracking module and bait and switch. The final boss moves around a lot and tracking is really good for her
As soon as I saw it could roll Demo + Incandescent I knew it had to be mine.. Not enough weapons with that roll and the BxR with that trait combo is one of my favorite in the game!
It's basically the Immortal had a baby with the Calus Mini-Tool, and is better (it seems) than Borrowed Time, but CMT is better due to the enhanced perk and better ROF.
@@Jeshua_Newborn bro I was thinking how much I hate that origin trait😭 I go 100 discipline but it would be kinda nice putting those tiers into something else. I just can’t keep track of that stuff when I’m ingame
Good vid on the weapons. Also finally someone showing that starfire is still strong. It’s just has to be used completely differently and no one seems to understand that.
I would say bug out bag is the true calus mini tool successor, bug out bag has more range and reload than calus by a fair margin while still being a 900 rpm smg. bug out bag can also roll subsistence and incandescent combo
Feel and archetype are important. Yes, enhanced incandescent is great but it’s still worth getting. Also, Bungie did say recently you’ll be able to enhance weapons, so this WILL be the best in slot without any doubts eventually.
@@AndJusticeforAll567 lol spending 4 or more hours of my life to farm for a weapon that’s .3% better than the gun I farmed for previously. That’s Destiny for ya
I think discord will be pretty good when you have it on multiple weapons. I’m thinking something like a scout/pulse with discord and cascade point and a shotgun with discord and harmony
I just got the same roll you have except it has a stability masterwork from helping someone with the exotic catalyst. From the catalyst chest you get dungeon loot if you already have the catalyst or don't have the exotic
Hard to chose normal incandescent weapons when the enhanced can apply 50 scorch stack. Can ignite with 2 kills with an enhanced Incan weapon whereas this would take 3
My fire team goes to get the symbols. I run Synthos with vex caliber on void or solar baby hammers titian. Both are impossible to die to adds, and both do good damage to the boss of heavy is gone, which never happens now with so much add density
I'm pretty sure I actually got the god roll for the new rocket launcher (Cold Comfort), I got Quick Launch, Impact Casing, Envious Assassin, Explosive Light with a Blast Radius Master Work and I personally think the crafted god roll for the Apex Predator is a lot better and has easier terms of use. Funny enough is my god roll Cold Comfort was the 2nd one the dungeon dropped me lol.
does Discord work with Whitherhoard if you swap to the SMG? like could you drop a WH blob in front of a spawn door then swap to the SMG and still proc Discord with the WH kills?
My friends have been out of town so ive been trying learning this dungeon solo while i wait to do a full run so ive been running it solo. Ive gotten to the boss before i got too tired to continue.
Anyone that needs a arc kinetic or any weapon with osmosis banshee has a auto rifle with osmosis and adrenaline junkie and it’s armor piercing autos this season it’s a good pickup
Wish pugilist was in the 3rd column. Ive been waiting for pugilist + incandescent for my sunbracers. Demo + incandescent will still be nice on my hunter
@Jacob - Ill be 100% honest with you bro, I hate zaouli's bane. It feels so inaccurate. I also hate Ads with the bxr but ig I may be able to work with the hipfire since ill be trying to fet melee kills? Idk. Ill have to try trustee but its not the greatest archetype or weapon type. Close range weapons are the best for this
Demo & Pugilist though 👀 Pugilist is a wasted perk for Sunbracers, since you only need 2-3 kills while in the air to completely get your melee back and it can be done passively in the background from your grenades.. just remember to hop. I think Demo + Incan is still the better roll for Sunbracers. If you don't have a grenade, just demo to get it, eat it for Heat Rises then just float while getting 1-2 kills for the melee.
@Haste trust me I have a juicy immortal sunbracers build. Its just sometimes I may miss my melee or it doesnt proc for some reason and then I have to sit around powerless waiting for it to come back
I'm curious about Collective Action on special or heavy weapons. I got the grenade launcher with that perk and it being a stasis wave frame seems like there's potential especially when making shards on a stasis build is really easy.
Dungeon farming confuses me so much, can some please tell me if I am understanding this correctly: if I were to run the whole dungeon 3x (1 on each character) in one week and the SMG did not drop a single time- would it be impossible to farm it? Because I have not unlocked it on the first completion?
You can farm the dungeon as much as you want, the only thing limited by character and weekly is the exotic at the end of the dungeon. Just farm until you get the smg roll you want.
Man how do I get a chill group again to do raids and dungeons with. Had a couple people in D1, but they all stopped playing. Now I’m using LFG for most things, but we all know it’s hit or miss.
Hola enhoar te escribo desde España podrías hacer un vídeo sobre la build solar que utilizas ahora para el hechicero en esta temporada 21 ? Gx por tu trabajo
Incandescent has never been better than voltshot and it still isn't. VS/Jolt isn't even getting artifact buffs and it still wrecks after the "nerf". Bungie said jolt is closer to ignition, hence nerf. If ignition > scorch than vs/jolt > Incandescent
I just don’t see how incandescent is considered the best primary perk in the game. It’s next to irrelevant in harder content. Voltshot on my Ikelos still feels excellent and in general I’ve always wished the Mini Tool had access to Frenzy. I would craft one with frenzy for harder content. For me incandescent is only good in easier content.
It's insane how you're treating it like a drug addiction.. it's a game, either play it if you feel like it or don't.. you can play it for a few minutes to see if you want to or not.. you're not going to get addicted like heroin, needing to constantly play it 24/7... jesus.
It can be a bit iffy at times but when an enemy ignites kills from it count as from the first thing that scorched them as long as the scorch didn't wear off. So you could melee them and then throw a grenade that adds nore scorch and ignites the enemy and if the ignition kills them then it counts as a melee kill and procs sunbracers
Guys this is not a must have smg. Its just another reskin because of lazy design team. Its just another smg thats the same as every other smg of the same type.
Collective action is actually really good on arc and stasis since they make way more elemental pickups than other classes, allowing you to stack up the duration to 30 seconds
IT GOES TO 30??? I thought the cap was 12 that’s amazing
i believe jolt is still better which is kinda rough
The dungeon is legit better than root of nightmares. It has some actual mechanics unlike root which is literally just spire of the watcher, the raid.
Agreed
you can just farm first encounter, its easier with lfg teams and drops gl/rocket/smg too
Yes! Definetly the easiest farm but the 2nd encounter is more fun and faster if you think you have a decent team ^-^
@@psychomoon7185 also second encounter dont have GL, but have useless glave, first have all good weeapons only
I already got demo and incandescent and I love it, it’s so good. Also, the rocket from the dungeon is great for the final boss. It can get tracking module and bait and switch. The final boss moves around a lot and tracking is really good for her
Or use legend of acrius, the thing slaps
@@guber9339that nearly impossible to use on a floating boss thats almost always 20 meters away???
@@AzrealJ then float with her
@@faresalmomen5858 you’re funny lmao
@penileymajorey7174 yeah but 100 percent of the player base could go out and get it.
Is Bungie ever going to get tired of reusing that model? They could at least reskin a few other SMG models from time to time
What other SMG models do you like?
@@alex62965 viest models >>>
Tbh I never really cared about gun models, I see them like real guns where they are based off of the platform
How hard could it be to make new ones though?
@@alex62965 same as every other dead orbit since D1
As soon as I saw it could roll Demo + Incandescent I knew it had to be mine..
Not enough weapons with that roll and the BxR with that trait combo is one of my favorite in the game!
It's basically the Immortal had a baby with the Calus Mini-Tool, and is better (it seems) than Borrowed Time, but CMT is better due to the enhanced perk and better ROF.
Demo is king tho and 750s are my fav, I love the lightweight bonus tho
Too excess is just too beast tho. It's decent but minitool also has op survivability due to unrelenting.
@@Jeshua_Newborn bro I was thinking how much I hate that origin trait😭 I go 100 discipline but it would be kinda nice putting those tiers into something else. I just can’t keep track of that stuff when I’m ingame
@@seffers4788 since when has Demo been king?
Unrelenting enhanced is so underrated. Back when it came out during SotH it saved me so many times on my solo flawless Duality run.
Good vid on the weapons. Also finally someone showing that starfire is still strong. It’s just has to be used completely differently and no one seems to understand that.
I would say bug out bag is the true calus mini tool successor, bug out bag has more range and reload than calus by a fair margin while still being a 900 rpm smg. bug out bag can also roll subsistence and incandescent combo
currently trying to get it 0/5 red borders 😂
@@codystartin999.
bug out bag doesnt have red borders, none of the reissued reckoning weapons do
Subsistence sucks big time in heroic+ content lol,minitool is still better than bug out bad because of unrelenting
It would be cool to see a build with malfeasance and lucky pants, now that malfeasance has vorpal I think it’ll be really strong
They added a catalyst for it Which Gives it vorpal. Although vorpal got nerfed a few months ago and isn't that good tbh.
@@Sfcfan120 vorpal is only nerfed on specials and power weapons.
No, it does not compete with top dps at all.
@MegaRayquaza_Gaming its the same damage bonus it has been for specials. It got buffed for primaries and nerfed for power
@@Sfcfan120vorpal was buffed on primary weapons my guy.
I like how the title can be both the title of the gun AND an emphasis on how good it is.
subsistence incandescent on bug out bag is being slept on
Feel like calus mini tool is better solely because of enhanced perks.
Yeah i think so too. Isnt enhanced incandescant together with one of the Fragments getting 85 scorch Stacks? Definitely used to be
@@Ferraribery97yeah, demos really good but not good enough to swap guns
Feel and archetype are important. Yes, enhanced incandescent is great but it’s still worth getting.
Also, Bungie did say recently you’ll be able to enhance weapons, so this WILL be the best in slot without any doubts eventually.
@@AndJusticeforAll567 lol spending 4 or more hours of my life to farm for a weapon that’s .3% better than the gun I farmed for previously. That’s Destiny for ya
Both only need 3, with ember non enhanced gives 40 scorch, enhanced gives 45
This gun doesn’t need a shader, I like how it looks like a water gun 😊
I got a Range MW, Rangefinder, Target Lock roll with 100 recoil direction. This thing is so great for PvP.
“we have imm*rtal at home”
Lets go!! New season weapon reviews! My fav part of ur channel!
They already have figured out to separate how much a perk buffs the weapon for primaries vs specials vs heavies. Look at vorpal weapon
Bro Veritys Brow fusion grenades with touche of flame and demo and adrenalin/incandecent must be crazy
I think discord will be pretty good when you have it on multiple weapons. I’m thinking something like a scout/pulse with discord and cascade point and a shotgun with discord and harmony
I just got the same roll you have except it has a stability masterwork from helping someone with the exotic catalyst. From the catalyst chest you get dungeon loot if you already have the catalyst or don't have the exotic
Discord seems actually pretty nice. It would be awesome on shotguns
Got it on the taken shorty and the sniper amd it def works well
Oh yeah this thing is gonna replace my calus no doubt. Demo on the left is just too good to pass up
I got demo and pugilist and i love it, i do want a demo incandescent roll though
Hard to chose normal incandescent weapons when the enhanced can apply 50 scorch stack. Can ignite with 2 kills with an enhanced Incan weapon whereas this would take 3
I jusr ran my first run on the dungeon and I got no survivors with demo and incandescent, which is pretty nice
Other people: starfire so bad now
Me watching ehroar use it: idk seems better at ad clear now
It was always good for add clear, the thing was good for everything but now they just made it an add clear exotic
He is using sunbracers in the gameplay shown not starfire?
Can you not just farm the first encounter? In the forest area. I thought that also drops the smg?
Yes it does, but like anything in this game, it's purely RNG. So good luck...
My fire team goes to get the symbols. I run Synthos with vex caliber on void or solar baby hammers titian. Both are impossible to die to adds, and both do good damage to the boss of heavy is gone, which never happens now with so much add density
honestly tho it feels like enhanced incandescent is mandatory cus more scorch stacks which IMO is more important than demo
Whats that shader on the Discord/Target Lock smg?
Warlock sunbracer and Titan hammer restoration build worked great
I'm pretty sure I actually got the god roll for the new rocket launcher (Cold Comfort), I got Quick Launch, Impact Casing, Envious Assassin, Explosive Light with a Blast Radius Master Work and I personally think the crafted god roll for the Apex Predator is a lot better and has easier terms of use. Funny enough is my god roll Cold Comfort was the 2nd one the dungeon dropped me lol.
Have you broken one two punch with no backup plans yet? I am looking for the most powerful build I can run with legend of acrius.
Do the incandescent explosion kills count towards Demolitionist energy?
does Discord work with Whitherhoard if you swap to the SMG? like could you drop a WH blob in front of a spawn door then swap to the SMG and still proc Discord with the WH kills?
Unfortunately it’s not craftable so no enhance incandescent. I’m still gonna use mini tool because of that even though the left column perks are bad
My friends have been out of town so ive been trying learning this dungeon solo while i wait to do a full run so ive been running it solo. Ive gotten to the boss before i got too tired to continue.
"all round a better Calus mini tool", isn't enhanced incandescent actually worth while?
Finally after one year bungie Finally made my request of having a solar unforgiven
I see Rangefinder and Target lock.... would it be the next "gun" there?
Does the boss really drop all four? Most loot tables Ive seen only list the rocket, smg, and glaive.
can you get it to 30 rounds or above? anything below 30 on a slow reload smg is kind of a dealbreaker
I got the bug out bag with subsistence/incandescent. Haven’t fired it yet buuuuut it seems like it might be groovy
Confused lol, I thought they said every weapon after the Deepsight update would be craftable?
Anyone that needs a arc kinetic or any weapon with osmosis banshee has a auto rifle with osmosis and adrenaline junkie and it’s armor piercing autos this season it’s a good pickup
Wish pugilist was in the 3rd column. Ive been waiting for pugilist + incandescent for my sunbracers. Demo + incandescent will still be nice on my hunter
Does it need to be an smg? Zaulis bane, trustee, bxr battler and tyranny of heaven get pugilist with incandescent
@Jacob - Ill be 100% honest with you bro, I hate zaouli's bane. It feels so inaccurate. I also hate Ads with the bxr but ig I may be able to work with the hipfire since ill be trying to fet melee kills? Idk. Ill have to try trustee but its not the greatest archetype or weapon type. Close range weapons are the best for this
Demo & Pugilist though 👀 Pugilist is a wasted perk for Sunbracers, since you only need 2-3 kills while in the air to completely get your melee back and it can be done passively in the background from your grenades.. just remember to hop. I think Demo + Incan is still the better roll for Sunbracers. If you don't have a grenade, just demo to get it, eat it for Heat Rises then just float while getting 1-2 kills for the melee.
@Haste trust me I have a juicy immortal sunbracers build. Its just sometimes I may miss my melee or it doesnt proc for some reason and then I have to sit around powerless waiting for it to come back
I'm curious about Collective Action on special or heavy weapons. I got the grenade launcher with that perk and it being a stasis wave frame seems like there's potential especially when making shards on a stasis build is really easy.
Imagine if it could one-tap in pvp 💀
Updated solar build? Or still running the one you posted a month or so ago
I love this fucking dungeon so much
demo, incan... that combo is nuts. FINALLY it rolls on a sub lol
Chest piece also drops from 2nd encounter.
better than mini tool?? hmm idk for me personally, mini tool is my baby. if I get a demo/incan roll i'll definitely try it out
Got that perk roll yesterday along with a target lock!
Got a pvp godroll how good is it in pvp?
I got demo/incandescent, it feels nice running it with my ashen wakes
Dungeon farming confuses me so much, can some please tell me if I am understanding this correctly: if I were to run the whole dungeon 3x (1 on each character) in one week and the SMG did not drop a single time- would it be impossible to farm it? Because I have not unlocked it on the first completion?
Can you only farm gear that you have unlocked that week is what I am trying to say?
You can farm the dungeon as much as you want, the only thing limited by character and weekly is the exotic at the end of the dungeon. Just farm until you get the smg roll you want.
Demo+Incandescent makes it the best smg in the game imo...Even Calus being my favorite can't beat this combo!
Would love to see you review the new bipod rocket launcher perk
I have a surplus, target lock roll and love it
The opening encounter also drops the SMG btw!
You can get the smg from the first encounter as well. I got it from there
But Calus mini-tool exisits so what is the point of this gun
i need to farm this weapon now. two rolls that i want: demo with adrenalin for my warlock and rangefinder with target lock for pvp.
Man how do I get a chill group again to do raids and dungeons with.
Had a couple people in D1, but they all stopped playing.
Now I’m using LFG for most things, but we all know it’s hit or miss.
I got rangefinder/taget lock so im good for pvp. Now i need that incandescent/demo
You just threw up on my eyes w/ that Easter bunny shader. 😵
Which DLC does it require?
only took me 4 brain-bleeding hours of farming the entrance but i finally got me an incandescent roll and a decent rocket and gl
I got 3 or 4, a couple with incandescent, but nothing good in the left column
Oh no, demo incandescent is my weakness.
Since when are activities infintely farmable? It’s been a while but i thought bungie wants you to return weekly
Listen on the first boss, I also used Sunbracers we beat it first try. But I had like 800+ kills solely from sunbracers
I was doing my first run solo and by the time I got to the last boss I had 3.3k kills lol. Bosses have ridiculous HP
@@bofa722 honestly, with constant never ending ads
I hope to get a good incandescent roll. I got a decent target lock roll.
What about target lock with the origin trait??
They do it for vorpal, collective should be like 40% on primaries for me to consider it
Naw jolt hardly seemed like it got nerfed
30k kills on my mini-tool...this with demo incandescent crafted??? OP! Was going to craft vattle scars but now???
got Range finder and Target lockon is it good?
Got demo junkie first drop. Might farm the stasis wave frame but the perks look very mid
Wish it had chill clip
Discord also really strong in gl builds where it usaully kills multiple adds in a single gl shot
bro id love to farm dungeons but i cant be assed with the checkpoints, if every farm was like kalli farm id do them way more
Imo dungeon weapons should be craftable if raid weapons are
I wish!!
I guess they know that if ppl get all the patterns then they will NEVER play it again and then don't want that
@@Etechtroniks they will for artiface armor
Assassin's cowl arc hunter makes the upstairs adds easy.
is it better than mida smg?
when he said im out of town it gave me ptsd
What is that shader at 3:56 it looks 👌
Can you actually farm this? I was under the impression that you can only farm the featured weekly dungeon.
You can always farm the newest dungeon over and over again. It's the newest + the featured you can farm.
@@formxr is it just until next reset?
@@acoustic_. No, it's infinitely farmable 24/7 until a newer dungeon replaces it.
It's farmable for the next 6 months/2 seasons until we get the next new dungeon
What shader is that on the smg?
what dlc needed on this ?
PSA: combination blow destroys the top part of the room as well, super easy and keeps u healthy. 😊
Hola enhoar te escribo desde España podrías hacer un vídeo sobre la build solar que utilizas ahora para el hechicero en esta temporada 21 ? Gx por tu trabajo
Incandescent has never been better than voltshot and it still isn't. VS/Jolt isn't even getting artifact buffs and it still wrecks after the "nerf". Bungie said jolt is closer to ignition, hence nerf. If ignition > scorch than vs/jolt > Incandescent
I just don’t see how incandescent is considered the best primary perk in the game. It’s next to irrelevant in harder content. Voltshot on my Ikelos still feels excellent and in general I’ve always wished the Mini Tool had access to Frenzy. I would craft one with frenzy for harder content. For me incandescent is only good in easier content.
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Bungie did it for vorpal and then I guess they've forgotten how to do it for anything else
It’s videos like this that make me want to get back into destiny…dammit
Do not
@@starlightrains or let people enjoy things.. sounds like you should just quit, rather than trying to stop other people from enjoying something.
It's insane how you're treating it like a drug addiction.. it's a game, either play it if you feel like it or don't.. you can play it for a few minutes to see if you want to or not.. you're not going to get addicted like heroin, needing to constantly play it 24/7... jesus.
@@hhaste yeah bro i kind of did quit lmao, what is your point? literally arguing with yourself for no reason
@@hhaste blud wrote 50 words over 2 words
HOW is he getting sunbracers to activate like that? I thought it required a melee kill to start infinite grenades?
What? How?
It can be a bit iffy at times but when an enemy ignites kills from it count as from the first thing that scorched them as long as the scorch didn't wear off.
So you could melee them and then throw a grenade that adds nore scorch and ignites the enemy and if the ignition kills them then it counts as a melee kill and procs sunbracers
On the other hand… who even uses primary weapons anymore when double special is so much better at literally everything.
Calus Mini-Tool is dead, long live the new king
It's nice and all, but it never drops. Got 1 shitty roll for like 50+ runs, not counting final boss (20+). It's a shame.
Guys this is not a must have smg. Its just another reskin because of lazy design team. Its just another smg thats the same as every other smg of the same type.