I did this drill this past weekend with my son, we had a blast. First time shooting the drill for either of us. We managed to get under 10 seconds after a few runs. Definitely a fun drill and helps working on moving from target to target. Hope to get close to Kyle's time!
I need more target stands! Great drill, Kyle, as usual! It would be superb to get more footage from you. Any of your words is always worthy to improve my training.
Did a pistol drill very similar to this at my local indoor gun club, except the on targets 1-5 we would should the same number of shots associated with the particular target. Example, target 1 would get 1 shot, target 2 would get 2 shots, etc. and then when you got to target 5 you would shoot it 5 times, then reverse the course of fire back to 1. This drill looks like a lot of fun too!
We just did this drill on our range and found it even more challenging if the targets are not lined up on the same height. if you shift some up and some down its far more difficult - and fun :)
We did a course of fire at my range that was similar.. and we included a pistol target up close that required a pivot, move, switch to secondary, engage, holster, return to primary. Being able to get the rifle down and out of the way is another little skill that usually doesn't get practiced enough. I've found (and my Marine buddies agree) that the tendency to slide it out of the way is a waste, rather, just throw it over and let it drop. If your sling is properly set up it'll hang itself while you're getting the pistol up.
People, it's not training to shoot 5 people like this. Obviously tactics would say to get behind cover, just go from left to right, offline of attack, etc. It's a drill to teach you how to drive your weapon and transition from target to target while maintianing combat effective accuracy. Stop looking at everything in a vacuum. MMA fighters use focus mitts. When are they ever gonna be punching two moving pads in the street? They aren;t, it's a drill.
Daxis Perry It actually is a legitimate "chaos" drill drilled into tier 1, direct action guys; yes, it's highly unlikely an individual would intentionally position themselves in an instance in which they were forced to engage four adversaries, but that is exactly why these men are in special mission units; unconventional ops yield skewed and unconventional engagements, and when national objectives are on the line, one must know the most oportune course of action.
Ha, try convincing anyone that who is not part of the MAGA base, No one believes that. This is clearly murder warship for people who enjoy killing Americans. You can't prove me wrong. All of you are on the side of white supremacy, and that would have been good but trump is out and you lost your shot. Now you have to deal with Law enforcement.
Larry M, have you noticed that it has been 2 months and no one has given your “comment” the time of day? It’s because nobody cares. And before you reply and say, “but you did,” and think yourself somehow witty and clever, I replied just to tell you that nobody cares about what you think. At all.
awesome kyle. just finished taking a patrol rifle class for law enforcement. Instructors were trained at Viking Tactical. I was impressed with the tactics and the training. Anyone knows if your targets are available for sale?
Hey SGM. Lamb - I noticed in your old videos and your excellent book (Green Eyes Black Rifles) you mostly used EOtech optics. Looks like you're using an Aimpoint Micro in this video. Did it just happen to be on the rifle you picked up before this training session, or have you found something in your experience that makes you like the Aimpoint Micro more? I think they both have their place, but in lieu of you writing a new book I'm always looking to learn from your experience. Thanks
Joey swan+ you need to keep in mind a drill is a controlled scenario. Also the statistics presented were represents a range for reaction time but in reality each of those enemies reaction times could be higher than average or lower. So that variable can be a variable that can get you killed. Also variability in skill set. Now considering that it is utterly Impossible to know these factors in combat and the fact that in reality there is no control targets aren't symmetrically lined up for you and don't hold still for you and they pretty much make you work for it.
What can help with training anyone is taking advantage of the 1-5 drills and chaos drills versatility and broadness. Which would be using the drill for constant progression in a multitude of fields simultaneously
The point is to practice moving your eyes and moving the gun. You could do it with any number of targets an an array, so long as you have to move back and forth in some non-regular pattern. The point of giving it a sequence is so you can repeat it and measure improvement with a timer.
This a good drill on 10" steel plates with a pistol but it can be changed for whatever you want to gain. Having a second person call out a plate after #1 is good also to include auditory commands and not just a visual stimulus.... Mick A27257
I also do this after the run of the drill as described in the vid. also tho in a mag chg/malf here and there too. throw some gravel at them for some added fun. :)
..this is actually a drill i was doing years ago in counterstrike 1.6 and counterstrike source. 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 etc etc on targets at least 20 degrees appart. Its a popular way to exercise your mouse control for most shooters. its not surprising that it works for guns. we just called it the expanding radial shooting drill.
I'd say the most comparable tactics for every unit is operational tactics. But as for this drill it used just like Mozambique in real failure to stop scenarios.
Those 1911 guys should "make if fair" for themselves by upgrading to a FNP .45. If someone shows up to train with a Harper's Ferry flintlock pistol, they deserve to fall behind. Great drill, as always.
Thanks for the laundry list of 1911 cliched arguments. You may as well bullet point them. 1. This is called a argument from authority fallacy. HSLD operators have opinions, but they are just opinions. 2 No, it's not. It was a brilliant design 100 years ago. There is no reason to handicap yourself in a firefight, beyond myopic nostalgia or pride. 3 Strawman fallacy. OP mentioned having to adjust downward to "make it fair" 1911 users in his classes. Keep the scope of your rebuttal to the context of my assertion. Your fantasy scenario is irrelevant. 4 I'm sure you operate in HSLD secret squirrel operations every night, but there are a lot of people who aren't meat eating door kickers like you. Some of us scumvillians (and vets) aren't actually carrying a rifle to the grocery store. That means that the pistol IS the primary. 5 last time I checked, the 1911 had a 7+1 capacity, not 9. Could be wrong. I was issued a Beretta, so I'm no 1911 expert.
Why would you? The point of the drill is to learn to drive your weapon rapidly from target to target. The fantasy that a hammer pair or a controlled pair will stop a threat is just that, a fantasy. It has been proven time and time again that it isn't always effective, so why train based solely on a few instances of success? This drill is only to get you shifting targets faster and learning with the smallest round count since a majority of us are training on a budget. Check out the 1-5 drill if you want to put more rounds on target during a drill.
Derek C I get the point of the drill, yet I decided that either for sport (IPSC/USPSA) or defense situations double tap training suits my needs best. By the way, i just did this drill with a handgun and it really is excellent training and really really good fun :) - btw Chris Smith : come on take a joke ;)
Double taps or whatever you want to call them are not the best idea in a defensive situation or competition. Firing two rounds with one sight picture makes that second round uncontrolled. You are responsible for every round fired, that round becomes dangerous as you don't know where it goes. Also you will not know how many rounds it will take to end a threat, if you double tap then pause, it might give him time to put rounds on you instead of just burning him down with controlled rounds. Almost every instructor will tell you the same thing. The best shooters in the world do not believe in double taps. Kyle Lamb, Pat Mac, Frank Proctor just to name a few have all publicly denounced double taps.
Living in the UK I've watched many videos on shooting, and it seems to me that all you need to do to become a better shooter/operator is grow a tactical beard the bigger it is the better shooter/operator you will become. ..... Very theatrical.
average human reaction time is 215 milliseconds he hit 5 targets in 7.94 seconds the above average combatants reaction times is mostly higher some were around 140-125 milliseconds. all this shooting being done within 10 feet in 7.94 seconds that's 7940 milliseconds to engage 5 targets who have the reaction time ranging from 0.14 seconds to 0.215 seconds. 215 milliseconds is 0.215 seconds and 140 milliseconds in seconds is 0.14 seconds. it would take 1.075 seconds for 5 combatants with average reaction time to respond to the situation. if the 5 combatants had a reaction time of 0.14 seconds, it would take 700 milliseconds or 0.7 seconds to respond to the situation. if both parties aimed center mass the scenario would most likely be blow for blow unless the accuracy of one party was higher than the others and the shots taken have surgical precision the tides will be "chaotic." another think to take into account is body armor. but then again this is just a drill that helps your reaction time to be faster. I trust it despite the what I took from the statistical stand point.
Average human reaction time is 250 milliseconds for visual stimulus, 170 for auditory stimulus, and 150 for touch. You're full of shit, and it doesn't take an expert to catch on - you can't add people's reaction time for a collective reaction time, dipshit.
abraham seras Making up a bunch of words (the actual meaning of which you have no idea) within a long run-on sentence doesn't not negate the fact that you were wrong. Again.
abraham seras By the way, regurgitating a bunch of stats that you don't understand (which is why you got them wrong) doesn't help your case. The point here is that you don't know anything about drills, because you've never drilled anything. Ever.
Sf units have their own unique modified sut that is derived from what you learn in basic. Sf units freestyle when it comes to tactics they still perform basic sut but 86% of there sut tactics and shooting drills are proprietary. And their proprietary sut and drills are created using creativity, tactical assessment of the task at hand, difficulties the task presents, it's dynamics and from there they make drills and tactics. This chaos drill and 1-5 drill is not even close to the intensity of drills done by sf which update every year. 1-5 is more tailored for le and civ roles. It by nature is not a delta force drill. The drills that done by delta are disqualifying to a lot of sf members with experience so. So for love of God stop felching and belching. Let's be clear there are people in the military master gunfighting basics but don't make into sf. Are there secret ninja scrolls for training? No but sf wouldn't be sf if they were no different from infantry.
They're to practice fundamentals, of driving a weapon from target to target. You realise the man in the video is US Navy SEAL right? Most people would not take anything from running breaching drills, and dynamic house clearing, but should instead focus on fundamentals, and being physically fit. No one is saying this these little drills are the end of training lol
Are you a fucking idiot? You obviously have no military experience and fail to realize that the instructor was in the highest echelon of SOF. I swear fucking RUclips commentators.
I did this drill this past weekend with my son, we had a blast. First time shooting the drill for either of us. We managed to get under 10 seconds after a few runs. Definitely a fun drill and helps working on moving from target to target. Hope to get close to Kyle's time!
I need more target stands!
Great drill, Kyle, as usual!
It would be superb to get more footage from you. Any of your words is always worthy to improve my training.
Thank you for the valuable information and training SGM Lamb, god bless you!
Thanks Sgt major. been using this drill quite often lately.
Did a pistol drill very similar to this at my local indoor gun club, except the on targets 1-5 we would should the same number of shots associated with the particular target. Example, target 1 would get 1 shot, target 2 would get 2 shots, etc. and then when you got to target 5 you would shoot it 5 times, then reverse the course of fire back to 1.
This drill looks like a lot of fun too!
Love the drills in these training videos you have
Love it!
We just did this drill on our range and found it even more challenging if the targets are not lined up on the same height. if you shift some up and some down its far more difficult - and fun :)
We did a course of fire at my range that was similar.. and we included a pistol target up close that required a pivot, move, switch to secondary, engage, holster, return to primary. Being able to get the rifle down and out of the way is another little skill that usually doesn't get practiced enough. I've found (and my Marine buddies agree) that the tendency to slide it out of the way is a waste, rather, just throw it over and let it drop. If your sling is properly set up it'll hang itself while you're getting the pistol up.
People, it's not training to shoot 5 people like this. Obviously tactics would say to get behind cover, just go from left to right, offline of attack, etc. It's a drill to teach you how to drive your weapon and transition from target to target while maintianing combat effective accuracy. Stop looking at everything in a vacuum. MMA fighters use focus mitts. When are they ever gonna be punching two moving pads in the street? They aren;t, it's a drill.
Its meant to build your speed and agility at close quarters distances.
Daxis Perry It actually is a legitimate "chaos" drill drilled into tier 1, direct action guys; yes, it's highly unlikely an individual would intentionally position themselves in an instance in which they were forced to engage four adversaries, but that is exactly why these men are in special mission units; unconventional ops yield skewed and unconventional engagements, and when national objectives are on the line, one must know the most oportune course of action.
Ha, try convincing anyone that who is not part of the MAGA base, No one believes that. This is clearly murder warship for people who enjoy killing Americans. You can't prove me wrong. All of you are on the side of white supremacy, and that would have been good but trump is out and you lost your shot. Now you have to deal with Law enforcement.
Larry M, have you noticed that it has been 2 months and no one has given your “comment” the time of day? It’s because nobody cares.
And before you reply and say, “but you did,” and think yourself somehow witty and clever, I replied just to tell you that nobody cares about what you think.
At all.
Sweet drill. Definitely going to have to give it a try!
Whew that is way intense! Great job!
Its meant to build your speed and agility at close quarters distances.
awesome kyle. just finished taking a patrol rifle class for law enforcement. Instructors were trained at Viking Tactical. I was impressed with the tactics and the training. Anyone knows if your targets are available for sale?
Cool drill. Always count on Lamb boy to mix it up
Good shooting, good tactics. Engaing multiple target, supresing fire
Excellent work soldiers!
What the hell did the target on the left do to piss you off?
Hey SGM. Lamb - I noticed in your old videos and your excellent book (Green Eyes Black Rifles) you mostly used EOtech optics. Looks like you're using an Aimpoint Micro in this video. Did it just happen to be on the rifle you picked up before this training session, or have you found something in your experience that makes you like the Aimpoint Micro more? I think they both have their place, but in lieu of you writing a new book I'm always looking to learn from your experience.
Thanks
really like that one!! Need five stands now!
Exc. drill. Use something similar on my guitar, never thought to apply it to a weapon. Thank you.
That's the 1st thing I thought
@@scrateshooter Great minds work alike?
Love it! And well explained and demonstrated. 👍
Cool drills. ..good vid.
Liked and subscribed! Good video and well presented! I'll have to give it a try on the weekend.
what timer are you using?
I like the Chaos targets! I will start building! I'm going to reverse it on the second time to completely mess my head up!
out of curiosity but why left-right-left? what about going the other direction? you know, have the first target on the right instead?
What sling is that? Vtac sling? Which version?
Great Drill
Another great shooting drill. Keen in target acquisition.
what did target #1 ever do to you
Dammit! need more PVC
I just want to know what #1 did to make you upset, lol. He got smoked way more than all the others. It is a fun drill, Thank you
#1 is wearing body armor and is on PCP. 😉
Joey swan+ you need to keep in mind a drill is a controlled scenario. Also the statistics presented were represents a range for reaction time but in reality each of those enemies reaction times could be higher than average or lower. So that variable can be a variable that can get you killed. Also variability in skill set. Now considering that it is utterly Impossible to know these factors in combat and the fact that in reality there is no control targets aren't symmetrically lined up for you and don't hold still for you and they pretty much make you work for it.
Nice!
Excellent. Thanks!
1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. You're killin' me. I like the chaos vid. I hope I never need it.
😂 how many degrees off TDC?
ok, that is insane...!
I like it alot.
What can help with training anyone is taking advantage of the 1-5 drills and chaos drills versatility and broadness. Which would be using the drill for constant progression in a multitude of fields simultaneously
I'm sorry, what's the point of the number sequencing and shooting guy #1 so many times with a rifle?
The point is to practice moving your eyes and moving the gun. You could do it with any number of targets an an array, so long as you have to move back and forth in some non-regular pattern. The point of giving it a sequence is so you can repeat it and measure improvement with a timer.
I only have 3 target stands...lol...now I have an excuse to buy 2 more :-)
Nothing is the same after watching so many Jerry Miculek videos....
theredletterdays Great observation, better point
slow is smooth smooth is fast
Looks like fun
Excelente!!! Muito divertido.
Why shoot the guy on the left the most? is he Thanos? 😂 Great video!
gonna have to try that one next time i go shooting.
Why?
This a good drill on 10" steel plates with a pistol but it can be changed for whatever you want to gain. Having a second person call out a plate after #1 is good also to include auditory commands and not just a visual stimulus....
Mick A27257
I also do this after the run of the drill as described in the vid. also tho in a mag chg/malf here and there too. throw some gravel at them for some added fun. :)
Don't know if this will help anyone, but I visualize it as similar to running a suicide drill for soccer or football.
..this is actually a drill i was doing years ago in counterstrike 1.6 and counterstrike source.
1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 etc etc on targets at least 20 degrees appart. Its a popular way to exercise your mouse control for most shooters.
its not surprising that it works for guns. we just called it the expanding radial shooting drill.
Random Spark you don't happen to recall the map name?
Sometimes it isn't so good to be #1
I'd say the most comparable tactics for every unit is operational tactics. But as for this drill it used just like Mozambique in real failure to stop scenarios.
I need to buy "stocks" PVC, wood and paper :-P
Those 1911 guys should "make if fair" for themselves by upgrading to a FNP .45. If someone shows up to train with a Harper's Ferry flintlock pistol, they deserve to fall behind.
Great drill, as always.
Thanks for the laundry list of 1911 cliched arguments. You may as well bullet point them.
1. This is called a argument from authority fallacy. HSLD operators have opinions, but they are just opinions.
2 No, it's not. It was a brilliant design 100 years ago. There is no reason to handicap yourself in a firefight, beyond myopic nostalgia or pride.
3 Strawman fallacy. OP mentioned having to adjust downward to "make it fair" 1911 users in his classes. Keep the scope of your rebuttal to the context of my assertion. Your fantasy scenario is irrelevant.
4 I'm sure you operate in HSLD secret squirrel operations every night, but there are a lot of people who aren't meat eating door kickers like you. Some of us scumvillians (and vets) aren't actually carrying a rifle to the grocery store. That means that the pistol IS the primary.
5 last time I checked, the 1911 had a 7+1 capacity, not 9. Could be wrong. I was issued a Beretta, so I'm no 1911 expert.
WTF? Why won't you do this with double taps?!?!? But great training, will try this next time on the range.
The correct term is controlled pair.
Chris Smith yo momma's got a controlled pair!
Why would you? The point of the drill is to learn to drive your weapon rapidly from target to target. The fantasy that a hammer pair or a controlled pair will stop a threat is just that, a fantasy. It has been proven time and time again that it isn't always effective, so why train based solely on a few instances of success? This drill is only to get you shifting targets faster and learning with the smallest round count since a majority of us are training on a budget.
Check out the 1-5 drill if you want to put more rounds on target during a drill.
Derek C I get the point of the drill, yet I decided that either for sport (IPSC/USPSA) or defense situations double tap training suits my needs best. By the way, i just did this drill with a handgun and it really is excellent training and really really good fun :) - btw Chris Smith : come on take a joke ;)
Double taps or whatever you want to call them are not the best idea in a defensive situation or competition. Firing two rounds with one sight picture makes that second round uncontrolled. You are responsible for every round fired, that round becomes dangerous as you don't know where it goes. Also you will not know how many rounds it will take to end a threat, if you double tap then pause, it might give him time to put rounds on you instead of just burning him down with controlled rounds. Almost every instructor will tell you the same thing. The best shooters in the world do not believe in double taps. Kyle Lamb, Pat Mac, Frank Proctor just to name a few have all publicly denounced double taps.
Bennie Cooley Jr taught him everything he knows.
cool
CHAOS drill ...check!
yea, my mail lady dropped a Glock mag in the road out in front of my 1850 built house. Love New Hampshire ✌️
💥🎯🤣
Living in the UK I've watched many videos on shooting, and it seems to me that all you need to do to become a better shooter/operator is grow a tactical beard the bigger it is the better shooter/operator you will become. ..... Very theatrical.
drill.exe has stopped working
average human reaction time is 215 milliseconds he hit 5 targets in 7.94 seconds the above average combatants reaction times is mostly higher some were around 140-125 milliseconds. all this shooting being done within 10 feet in 7.94 seconds that's 7940 milliseconds to engage 5 targets who have the reaction time ranging from 0.14 seconds to 0.215 seconds. 215 milliseconds is 0.215 seconds and 140 milliseconds in seconds is 0.14 seconds. it would take 1.075 seconds for 5 combatants with average reaction time to respond to the situation. if the 5 combatants had a reaction time of 0.14 seconds, it would take 700 milliseconds or 0.7 seconds to respond to the situation. if both parties aimed center mass the scenario would most likely be blow for blow unless the accuracy of one party was higher than the others and the shots taken have surgical precision the tides will be "chaotic." another think to take into account is body armor. but then again this is just a drill that helps your reaction time to be faster. I trust it despite the what I took from the statistical stand point.
Average human reaction time is 250 milliseconds for visual stimulus, 170 for auditory stimulus, and 150 for touch. You're full of shit, and it doesn't take an expert to catch on - you can't add people's reaction time for a collective reaction time, dipshit.
It's okay, I know you don't like it when people point out that you're stupid.
abraham seras Making up a bunch of words (the actual meaning of which you have no idea) within a long run-on sentence doesn't not negate the fact that you were wrong. Again.
abraham seras By the way, regurgitating a bunch of stats that you don't understand (which is why you got them wrong) doesn't help your case. The point here is that you don't know anything about drills, because you've never drilled anything. Ever.
Oh, and you don't get to "expose" any technique, because you don't know any technique. You are just a loser.
Legit
Sweet. Baby. Jesus.
I think the first target is dead.
Sf units have their own unique modified sut that is derived from what you learn in basic. Sf units freestyle when it comes to tactics they still perform basic sut but 86% of there sut tactics and shooting drills are proprietary. And their proprietary sut and drills are created using creativity, tactical assessment of the task at hand, difficulties the task presents, it's dynamics and from there they make drills and tactics. This chaos drill and 1-5 drill is not even close to the intensity of drills done by sf which update every year. 1-5 is more tailored for le and civ roles. It by nature is not a delta force drill. The drills that done by delta are disqualifying to a lot of sf members with experience so. So for love of God stop felching and belching. Let's be clear there are people in the military master gunfighting basics but don't make into sf. Are there secret ninja scrolls for training? No but sf wouldn't be sf if they were no different from infantry.
+Joseph Goins I mean I'm just stating facts. If you have problem with excepting reality and truth then that sounds like a you problem.
They're to practice fundamentals, of driving a weapon from target to target. You realise the man in the video is US Navy SEAL right? Most people would not take anything from running breaching drills, and dynamic house clearing, but should instead focus on fundamentals, and being physically fit. No one is saying this these little drills are the end of training lol
I'm an idiot, you're right. Was watching another vid and got mixed up. Regardless, he's Army SOF, thanks for correcting my fuck up
Was watching a Rich Graham vid haha
Are you a fucking idiot? You obviously have no military experience and fail to realize that the instructor was in the highest echelon of SOF. I swear fucking RUclips commentators.
You can be very good at basics but if you like the mind they don't mean shit
I live in a communist state so I won't be able to do this drill.
what’s the point of your pattern? hahahaha you’re funny
Weak
Lol bet you can't do this drill in even twice the time Sgt. Lamb does it in.
@@rockmusicman21 lol. You have no idea
Why?