Comparing 3 Drum Machines // PO-12, TR-6S, Drumbrute Impact

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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    Comparing 3 Drum Machines // PO-12, TR-6S, Drumbrute Impact
    I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY about exporting options with the TR-6S- You are (obviously) able to use external FX on the master, but not on individual stems, like on the Drumbrute Impact. Unless there's a convenient way of doing that via USB in which case COMMENTS!
    Comparing the TR-6S, Drumbrute Impact and PO-12. Each machine has its strengths and weaknesses, many of which are explored in this video!
    That being said, this is my impression. All three of these machines are really great and totally capable of being used professionally in the studio/live set!
    Shoutout to (at) alliebrowniest (Instagram) for the animations!
    #pocketoperator​ #tr6s #drummachine #drumbrute #comparison
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  • @LiamKillen
    @LiamKillen  3 года назад +4

    Wanna buy any of these drum machines? Support my channel along the way! Check it out on Perfect Circuit with these affiliate links:
    TR-6S: ►bit.ly/33f9EG9
    Drumbrute Impact: ►bit.ly/33ppHBr
    PO-12: ►bit.ly/2QJBTu4

  • @tomb-X
    @tomb-X Год назад +4

    The Sequencer of the Impact is so great and you can control a lot of other Drummachines

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  Год назад +1

      Yeah Arturia makes great sequencers in general!

  • @kathleencoveny3860
    @kathleencoveny3860 3 года назад +6

    Once again .. you leave no stone unturned ..cheers to the process.. easy flow of your videos .. ! Thanks !

  • @GrayGhostDog1
    @GrayGhostDog1 2 года назад +3

    This video was helpful for me when I was trying to decide between the Drumbrute Impact and the TR6s... appreciate the effort.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +1

      Thanks For watching Jay!

  • @tubeMonger
    @tubeMonger 2 года назад +9

    I own Drumbrute Impact and it is just so much fun - even on its own. I also like the sounds quite a bit.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +2

      I love it but some people just don’t like those sounds.

  • @hypnoticatrance
    @hypnoticatrance Год назад +6

    The winner is: TR6S :) I just bought it, and it is very nice for jamming. I also bought it, about you can use samples too.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  Год назад +2

      Awesome! So glad you ended up purchasing 😊

    • @DrDroogkloot
      @DrDroogkloot Год назад +1

      Im still happy with my tr8-s

  • @captainHadHoc
    @captainHadHoc 3 года назад +1

    Great video as usual! My fav drum machine is the Volca Drum, so many possibilty :) (but i like my PO Tonic too) and i really think about the Model Cycles

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад +2

      Model Cycle I would looove to have one of those

  • @meilstone
    @meilstone Год назад +3

    Arturia nailed it with their randomize knobs, always a musical output

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  Год назад

      Yeah I love that feature too.

  • @danielgharmann
    @danielgharmann 3 года назад +1

    Great one, Liam!

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад

      Hey Daniel thanks so much!

  • @lucbazzani
    @lucbazzani 2 года назад +1

    thank for the video. I love these machines comparisons

  • @SwiftDreamer
    @SwiftDreamer 2 года назад +2

    For the TR6S, you can effect the single tracks with effects, but you need to do it via a computer, by downloading the specific ASIO driver (Roland supplies it), separating each out its separate mixer track, and add fxs that way. I've done it with mine once via FL studio, but it seems like the Drumbrute still takes the cake for exports

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +1

      Oh cool via software! Very cool

  • @GreatistheWorld
    @GreatistheWorld 2 года назад +1

    Slight addendum, less buttons doesn’t make for a simpler workflow necessarily, don’t know how common this is but POs were harder to learn for me because there was a lot of memorizing sort of unintuitive button combinations. Once you’ve got that muscle memory down sure, but it was a process getting there. Of course my first was the Arcade, which has more going on inside and that colors the experience!
    Also worth mentioning, as a headphones guy I didn’t know until Ricky Tinez mentioned it, pocket operators BANG on speakers
    Great video

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +1

      They do bang!!! It’s pretty incredible actually

  • @vozdh
    @vozdh Год назад +1

    The TR6S have separate outputs througt the usb port directly in your DAW, I got the drumbrute and the TR6S both are amazig devices, in my opinion DI is perfectly for live perfomance, while TR6S is great for create and rec.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  Год назад

      Yeah i'm leaning a lot more towards TR-6S these days myself.

  • @EverettVinzant
    @EverettVinzant 2 года назад +3

    You have me thinking I should compare my Tonic, TR-6S, and Gotharman’s SpazeDrum.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +1

      Never heard the spazedrum!

  • @rudolphkeller7283
    @rudolphkeller7283 2 года назад +2

    Franchement merci, tres bonne video mon ami!

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +1

      Franchement!!! Thanks for watching :-)

  • @Two-Eyed_Boy
    @Two-Eyed_Boy 3 года назад +9

    Suns out, drum machines out! I've used the PO-12 in a few songs and it's absolutely massive. 🤘

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад +2

      Yeah it’s got some beef to it for suuuuure!

    • @DJbace1
      @DJbace1 3 года назад +5

      Tonic, KO, & Sub are the ones i have right now are a superr deep.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад +3

      Yeah you can do a lot with that!

  • @marnobeum
    @marnobeum 2 года назад +2

    Funny, PO12 was my gateway to drummachines, and i just bought a Drumbrute Impact ;-) I have one question about the DBI : is it normal to ear kind of buzz/whistle in my earphones, and also in jack output, especially when the disto is at maximum loud and volume knob at two-third or three quarter ? Does it come from the power supply ? Thanks for your help 🙏

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +1

      Yeah that shouldn’t be happening and yes it does have its own power supply- that might be the issue!

  • @Alex-nl4zo
    @Alex-nl4zo 2 года назад +1

    Fill on PO-12: press REC one time to activate record mode, hold step you want to retrigger, press BPM multiple times.

  • @WillisZzz
    @WillisZzz 2 года назад +6

    7:27 I honestly had no idea the Drumbrute Impact was anything worth mentioning, but this part here is 👌 ... How is it for sequencing external machines?

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +3

      It’s great! I rarely use it as the brain though.

  • @ricflomusic
    @ricflomusic 3 года назад +2

    Very informative, thank you! Can you sample on the po-12?

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад +1

      no! That’s what i like about it actually

  • @pongtrometer
    @pongtrometer Год назад +1

    Great overview…. TR-6S sounds sexy….especially with the heritage drum machines…. I’d have to put 0.5 seconds of silence before each sample , to faux slip a groove into the robot grid .

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  Год назад +1

      thank you for watching :-)

  • @saardean4481
    @saardean4481 11 месяцев назад +2

    Cool comparison. Thank you. Can the Tr 6s playback stereo samples (in stereo)?

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  10 месяцев назад +2

      it certainly can.

    • @saardean4481
      @saardean4481 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@LiamKillen Starting to get warm with the idea of having one then ......

  • @Brokeninc
    @Brokeninc 3 года назад +1

    Can you do this video again but add the MPC Live or One?

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад +1

      I’ve got some mpc one content out within the next month or so

  • @TheDoctorM0
    @TheDoctorM0 3 года назад +1

    Lol. At 08:17 "Oh, it's so awesome" proceeds to look away, then stankface.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад +1

      When it stanks ya gotta do the stank face lol

  • @michaelhonormusic
    @michaelhonormusic Год назад +1

    I have the Roland tr-8s, it´s still my favorite drum machine. The drumbrute impact is worth getting for the kick alone, I don´t like the pockets.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  Год назад

      Yeah Drumbrute seems to be love / hate

  • @SwiftDreamer
    @SwiftDreamer 2 года назад +1

    I think the mc101 is a better choice for a drum machine than the tr6s (at least for the unquantized workflow option), but I'm taking more of a liking to the tr6s

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +1

      To me it’s more of like a one shot machine.

    • @SwiftDreamer
      @SwiftDreamer 2 года назад

      @@LiamKillen Really? The mc101 is highly underrated IMO. Yea, it comes with a lot of samples, but it also has tone generators that can create drum hits like kicks, snares & cymbals as well as other sounds that you can kinda tweak (it pairs well if you have zenology pro). It has a chord mapping, can play sequences in random order, midi notes aren't locked to a grid, you record and resample internal audio via looper tracks, it really is like having a portable daw
      Apologies if you already knew this, I just really love my mc101 & learning to use the tr6s with it

  • @alexwestconsulting
    @alexwestconsulting 2 года назад +1

    that minibrute 2s in the back is a "better" arturia drum machine than the impact IMO

  • @idkmybffjv
    @idkmybffjv 2 года назад +1

    The PO's have gone up in price since some of your videos.

  • @sullycliftona
    @sullycliftona Год назад +1

    Just have to skip my next leky bill .I'm definitely getting the roland even tho i find roland programming and sequence saving a pain . And thats it then .. oldest synth bloke on my street .. technics next year !!!

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  Год назад

      Haha do what ya gotta do! Hell yeah.

  • @erinthorpe4550
    @erinthorpe4550 3 года назад +1

    great Vid :>

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад

      Hey thanks so much Erin! Cheers

  • @tomb-X
    @tomb-X Год назад +1

    I control the Volca Drum and the Volca Sample with the Drumbrute Impact at the same time

  • @gossamyr
    @gossamyr 2 года назад +1

    ya shoulda had the sr16 in this for a complete video

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +1

      Never tried it!

    • @gossamyr
      @gossamyr 2 года назад

      @@LiamKillen You should! (points @ # of subscribers and raises an eyebrow)

    • @TheSawyer10702
      @TheSawyer10702 Год назад

      Alesis SR-16 ? A friend of mine has this. And it sounds very nice.would you say it's a better unit then TR-6?? Cheers

  • @tomb-X
    @tomb-X Год назад +1

    But all is nice Stuff. Thanx, great Video

  • @sjfleishnetworkportal
    @sjfleishnetworkportal Год назад +1

    hahaha this was great video!!

  • @m9cao
    @m9cao 2 года назад +2

    drumbrute win, in common, hardware sound partly depends on the power, drumbrute,
    and drum sounds just made from noise, and, sine, the decent effect chain was essential, drumbrute,
    again, drumbrute,
    actually the comparison was not fair, hope tr 8s, elektron analog rytm can join in.
    another battery warrior : korg volca drum, volca beats,
    little fm monster : elektron model cycles.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад

      Oh man...analog rhythm...would love to get my hands on one of those.

  • @masonjohnson8809
    @masonjohnson8809 2 года назад +1

    I just got the tr6s

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад

      Freggin love that thing.

  • @tomb-X
    @tomb-X Год назад +1

    I think the Po 32 is more flexible than the Po. 12

  • @strangersun7721
    @strangersun7721 Год назад +1

    Drumbrute for life!!!!

  • @remy5356
    @remy5356 4 месяца назад

    Is that kick problem ever fixed in a update? Hear none of you ‘influencers’ talk about it while i can clearly hear it in all the reviews and make think you dont mention it because a free model or money from arturia

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 месяца назад

      not sure what you mean my guy

  • @User-wq9ri
    @User-wq9ri 2 года назад +1

    The pocket operator actually sounds better than I thought it would.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +2

      Yeah the PO 12 is underestimated IMO.

  • @andrewverran3498
    @andrewverran3498 8 месяцев назад +1

    TR8S .. bit more expensive...Game Over

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  8 месяцев назад +1

      🤯

    • @andrewverran3498
      @andrewverran3498 8 месяцев назад

      @LiamKillen lol...I like the fill and roll dial on the Impact .

  • @japhetrivas7516
    @japhetrivas7516 2 года назад +1

    Tr-6s!!!!!!??

  • @shaft9000
    @shaft9000 2 года назад +1

    impression:
    - TR-6S very versatile but unfortunately sounding more like 'ReBirth advanced' than a drum machine....no wood or rattle to it = all plastique sounding. All the ACB&Zen-core are like this - sounds nice and tidy but not gritty, thick or dirty...detailed and responsive yes, but always sounding _flattened and polite._
    - DBI has a near-perfect UI... but a bungled sound engine (again!) - such a confused palette including the worst f*^&%ng clap ever. I'd rather use an MFB which is major a shame since the seq, connectivity and and build are truly great.
    - PO is a gadget, and not a drum machine.
    Thanks for the comparo-peek :)

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +6

      I disagree! I actually did a video comparing it to the og TR-808- check the comments of that video a lot of people either liked the 6s more or couldn't tell the diff: ruclips.net/video/0KTTpNKyOho/видео.html
      They're using this new tech called ACB for all of the classic sounds- it's HYPER close to the real thing-

    • @hypnoticatrance
      @hypnoticatrance Год назад

      Disagree too! The TR6S sound really, really great... never heard that fat baskicks from Impact, and about the pocked shit we dont't talk (for prof. Musicians it is a play toy, but not usable on stage). Using samples in TR6S is a big plus also!

  • @cosmicgoa
    @cosmicgoa Год назад +1

    Roland the best

  • @EverettVinzant
    @EverettVinzant 2 года назад +2

    The Drumbrute “wins” because it has 5 analog audio outputs and the TR-6S looses because it has 6 digital audio outputs (USB Audio)? I’m sorry, I can’t hear you over the quality of the extra digital audio output my TR-6S has ;)

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +2

      Kind of subjective to a point. I see your argument too I did a comparison between the TR-808 + TR-6S 808 sounds and if you check the comments a lot of people couldn't even tell the difference or actually preferred the 6s! Here's the video: ruclips.net/video/0KTTpNKyOho/видео.html&t

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 2 года назад +1

      Meh,. SPDIF and optical has been on gear for decades, and you've always needed a host for it just like USB does.
      Being able to plug into any amp or audio mixer straight away without fuss is a massive flexibility advantage that no digital I/O has never been able to make obsolete.

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq 2 года назад

      I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If you are sending the digital signal out on the Roland, you're just using it as a transport. At some point, it has to be converted to analog, or you can't listen to it. Either way, you are going to be using the analog outputs on the Roland, or on whatever you are using for a dac.
      As far as the digital vs analog debate goes, all analog components will vary from good to bad, as will all digital products. There's no guarantee which will sound better. A comparison needs to be done on an case by case basis. There's just too many variables at play. Listen to them all and pick the one that sounds best.

    • @EverettVinzant
      @EverettVinzant 2 года назад

      @@AT-wl9yq I’m guessing you don’t know that ;) is a smile with a wink. I’m guessing you don’t know that I wasn’t being absolutely correct, but rather pointing out something that wasn’t highlighted in the video in a gentle “ribbing” manner.
      Having built and repaired analog and digital radios, I’m very familiar with digital and analog electronics.
      Thanks for the post though.

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq 2 года назад

      @@EverettVinzant I didn't realize you were kidding. I actually know what those symbols mean, I just somehow missed it.

  • @argumentchannel
    @argumentchannel Год назад +1

    ppl love PO-12. If it was in my studio it would go in the bin

  • @NSW-ye3xw
    @NSW-ye3xw Год назад

    I sold my Roland TR8S for two reasons. Size and to me it was a machine to play live, which is something I don’t do. I missed having those classic Roland sounds, so I bought a used TR6S. For me, the 6S is better and smaller for studio use. However, I think it is very very unrated, especially with the latest firmware update. It literally is a TR8S but smaller and I absolutely love it. The menu diving and reduced controls isn’t that bad, as the operating system make it all work well. The TR6S paired with an Elektron Syntakt or an Erica Synths LXR-02 is a lethal combination of drums. That’s said, the TR6S also has FM and is a bargain buy for what it can do. Definitely the best value drum machine out there, that really can do it all.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  Год назад

      I agree whole heartedly! :-)

  • @mickvever38
    @mickvever38 2 года назад +1

    the arturia is a french machine...

  • @viktorragnemar9018
    @viktorragnemar9018 3 года назад +1

    Is this really proper workwear?

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад +1

      Sittin’ at home at my desk so… 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад +4

      This is synth RUclips, not a corporate office lol.

    • @viktorragnemar9018
      @viktorragnemar9018 3 года назад +3

      @@LiamKillen I’m Swedish so I would never dress so provocative :)
      But comfort is of course key!

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  3 года назад

      A men to comfort!

    • @beaticulous
      @beaticulous 3 года назад +1

      @@viktorragnemar9018 #144pAppreciationDay for Sweden?

  • @mattcero1
    @mattcero1 10 месяцев назад +1

    DON'T SELL YOUR IMPACT if you have one.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  10 месяцев назад

      I will not be selling it :-)

  • @CC-fi3pp
    @CC-fi3pp 2 года назад +3

    The Impact sounds awful but not as bad as the original, it got destroyed by a Pocket Operator, not suprised but still crazy.

    • @LiamKillen
      @LiamKillen  2 года назад +2

      It seems to be a drum machine that people either love or hate. I love it,.