Great video, I always look for Mordhau's billhook content :) I was the billhook freak since probably beta stage of Mordhau, I love it to this day because: - stab turncaps on this bad boi are great, very fluid and managable, very punishing to players that like to circle around - negative pushback is unique for that weapon, so it brings some quirkiness to the table - range - I like to prevent headbutting, combined with pushback I had a lot more control over opponents - mounted players takedown - it was even more useful before patch, that made it possible for more variety of weapons paired with horseman speed - I even noticed that players choosed bill more often on Frontline because of this feature (mainly on horssroads map) - it has interesting medieval origins and was popular weapon of infantry on the battlefields, so it suits that "historical accuracy" need, minor thing, but always nice - it never was a meta weapon (quite interesting how matches changing with every patch - zwei, evestar, axes, exec sword) and I always like to use "just ok" or quirky weapons like quarterstaff but...but people complained about bill "broken animations", especially on ranked duels, I didn't notice it myself when fighting against billman opponent, but it stayed in my head to the point that currently I switched mainly to poleaxe - I like it's versatility and decent range, but had to adapt to lower turncap. But yeah...always nice to see somebody using it on frontline/invasion around flying war axes and execs.
Skillhook was one of my favorite weapons to cover. It's fun to jump around and stab people in the eye with it. Plus if you can accel and overhead drag it will hit before they can even see it coming. Learned that from marlop
I think the "pulling off horsemen" is much less useful ever since horse speed also affect the damage the rider takes. Why bother pulling off someone if it will one shot them anyway?
@@elkkukissa7883 Yes but its shorter range compared to other polearm make it harder to hit a horseman without getting hit yourself so I would say it's mostly effective against less experienced horsemen. Still, I won't deny its niche use there.
@@DivingHawker The thing to that is to somehow get either in front and stab towards the horseman or try and go to the right side of the horse so they guy ontop cant hit you. This is good with mobile classes.
@@elkkukissa7883 I agree that it would be more useful in a mobile class. However, a spear stab or a Halberd stab or strike have so much range that it can be easier for some people. Besides, if I remember well, the Halberd's alt strike also pulls riders off the horses.
Just a tip because I noticed you mentioned matchups against horses: nearly ANY two handed weapon (any many one handers) can pretty consistently kill horseriders with a bit of timing and practice. All you have to do is get in the horses path (preferably not targeting you, but it doesn't make much difference unless they're a really good horse player), wind up a stab, and jump at them. You'll dodge most couched attacks, and the combined jump and stab will surprise most who expect you to run away. I've gotten consistent kills with the bastard sword in this way alongside many angry messages.
there is so much in mordhau that doesn't seem competitively viable that is actually viable. i think billhook falls into this category. when i played comp, before invasion even existed, the billhook was used, not frequently, but when you saw it you knew you were in for a ride. it's a phenomenal weapon in 5v5 skirms. the pulling effect from a stab is actually worse for the opponent than the damage output of estoc because it leaves your enemy in a bad position; you have the ability to pull a frontliner into your team and get an easy 4v1 gank. it completely counters rats, so no more flanks, and it's damage output is actually good if you shift your playstyle towards stabbing instead of slashing. it's another sleeper weapon that nobody plays because of the popular opinion, like mace and halberd.
It was great when it was the only polearm you could wield with 3/3/3. Ever since that retarded loadout overhaul, you can bring any weapon with full plate and many became pointless, especially now that Bloodlust sucks.
when an enemty goes in for a swing or after a miss and he is really close also you can cancel a feint into a kick dont cancel the feint just start the feint and then press f its really quick
It was my first polearms after the shortspear and I used it nearly exclusively for leg hunting (most wear 0, 1 at best). I also went after cavalry with it, but I hated the low damage, especially stabs were worse against armor than the halberd or poleaxe, not to forget the spear...
There's more, if you are lucky, you can pull an enemy right on your friendly archer's projectile way, so enemy basically just can run from arrow or a bolt :)
I am a big zwei main and I really like the 1vX potential, but I think I should try a new weapon each week or so and play around with it. Bill hook sounds so fun to me, even if a big reason is is that its unpopular. Every billhook main that I have faced has absolutely destroyed me tho
It's just a miss into kick combo. If you miss an lmb and combo it into another lmb it doesn't look like the first attack stops mid air because the windup of the 2nd attack blends into the animation.
Btw I'd love a full weapon focus series like this video. Or an armour overview one for startests, I, for example, didn't know T2 armour is almost as good as T3 in duel context (despite using it for a month after release exclusively lmao) and there's probably a lot more "low information" players like me. PPS How viable are t2 helmets?
God damn it!!! I got to be the kick range example death. I WAS ONLY THERE TRYIN OUT MY NEW VALSGARDE HELMET!!!! :'( Also nice video, me likey the Billhook
I'll tell you that the 10% that should know how to defend themselves against movie-choreography level attacks can still get caught off guard if you mix the BS in with solid play. [spinning cleaver chambers]
Louie could you make an advanced guide on skrims. I've gotten into playing pubs lately and I'm getting crushed. I want to get good at skrims and I would like a video about skrims. I think it would also gain views too.
Seems my billhock is broken, because it doesn´t pull enemies at all. After seeing the video I tested it with a friend and for whatever reason it simply doesn´t work for me. (thought that i was just too stupid the whole time) Has someone experienced something similar?
Basically, using stupid wonky animations and spamming feints are impossible for everyone to counter except the top 10% of players with way too many hours on the game.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 he said "flashy plays like these are not COMPETITIVELY < viable". Against 90% of casual playerbase it is viable but not against melee deities that are playing this game competitively.
I'm in this video and I don't like it. I remember dueling you and we killed each other a good number of times, I also love your videos but me getting rekt made me sad
I hate horsemans soo much... thankfully this weapon exist. But fighting with this feels weird. It feels like it is "realy good" and "not realy" at the same time. The pull and kick technique seems epic, I never have an idea how to use the pull mechanic in a fight realy, but this is what I probably should try.
I wish that the range of billhook would increase with alt mode and then also you wont be able to combo. Its hard to get them down if they arent stucked
You didn't mention alt Stab > kick > alt Stab > kick > alt Stab > ragequit. Very powerful combo
Alt+F4 is a good combo
@@sonofsparda3767 i prefer num pad 1
This weapon would be great if the developers changed the stab damage with a slash against 2 and 3 armor.
Love how u going into proper detail in your vids just subbed
It takes me 20 minutes to watch these short videos because I keep rewinding back to see kills I'd never even think of.
Thanks to your guides I am now cutting my way through tons of enemies
Great video, I always look for Mordhau's billhook content :)
I was the billhook freak since probably beta stage of Mordhau, I love it to this day because:
- stab turncaps on this bad boi are great, very fluid and managable, very punishing to players that like to circle around
- negative pushback is unique for that weapon, so it brings some quirkiness to the table
- range - I like to prevent headbutting, combined with pushback I had a lot more control over opponents
- mounted players takedown - it was even more useful before patch, that made it possible for more variety of weapons paired with horseman speed - I even noticed that players choosed bill more often on Frontline because of this feature (mainly on horssroads map)
- it has interesting medieval origins and was popular weapon of infantry on the battlefields, so it suits that "historical accuracy" need, minor thing, but always nice
- it never was a meta weapon (quite interesting how matches changing with every patch - zwei, evestar, axes, exec sword) and I always like to use "just ok" or quirky weapons like quarterstaff
but...but
people complained about bill "broken animations", especially on ranked duels, I didn't notice it myself when fighting against billman opponent, but it stayed in my head to the point that currently I switched mainly to poleaxe - I like it's versatility and decent range, but had to adapt to lower turncap.
But yeah...always nice to see somebody using it on frontline/invasion around flying war axes and execs.
Skillhook was one of my favorite weapons to cover. It's fun to jump around and stab people in the eye with it. Plus if you can accel and overhead drag it will hit before they can even see it coming. Learned that from marlop
I think the "pulling off horsemen" is much less useful ever since horse speed also affect the damage the rider takes. Why bother pulling off someone if it will one shot them anyway?
Because if somehow it doesnt kill them in one hit you dont have to try chasing the same horseman again
@@elkkukissa7883 Yes but its shorter range compared to other polearm make it harder to hit a horseman without getting hit yourself so I would say it's mostly effective against less experienced horsemen.
Still, I won't deny its niche use there.
@@DivingHawker The thing to that is to somehow get either in front and stab towards the horseman or try and go to the right side of the horse so they guy ontop cant hit you. This is good with mobile classes.
@@elkkukissa7883 I agree that it would be more useful in a mobile class. However, a spear stab or a Halberd stab or strike have so much range that it can be easier for some people. Besides, if I remember well, the Halberd's alt strike also pulls riders off the horses.
Because there is a good chance you dont kill the guy on the first hit. The billhook guarantees a kill.
Just a tip because I noticed you mentioned matchups against horses: nearly ANY two handed weapon (any many one handers) can pretty consistently kill horseriders with a bit of timing and practice. All you have to do is get in the horses path (preferably not targeting you, but it doesn't make much difference unless they're a really good horse player), wind up a stab, and jump at them.
You'll dodge most couched attacks, and the combined jump and stab will surprise most who expect you to run away. I've gotten consistent kills with the bastard sword in this way alongside many angry messages.
These vids are great once you hit lvl 50/60 and really start paying attention to specific stats and skills
Me playing Mordhau : "haha stab stab parry"
Louie playing Mordhau : 300iq strats
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Solid target switching at the end...love that 😎
This was a really informative video. Thanks
Great video as always will definitely try the billhook with your words in mind and would love to see more weapon reviews in the near future!
Yeah, I'll abuse this.
there is so much in mordhau that doesn't seem competitively viable that is actually viable. i think billhook falls into this category. when i played comp, before invasion even existed, the billhook was used, not frequently, but when you saw it you knew you were in for a ride. it's a phenomenal weapon in 5v5 skirms. the pulling effect from a stab is actually worse for the opponent than the damage output of estoc because it leaves your enemy in a bad position; you have the ability to pull a frontliner into your team and get an easy 4v1 gank. it completely counters rats, so no more flanks, and it's damage output is actually good if you shift your playstyle towards stabbing instead of slashing. it's another sleeper weapon that nobody plays because of the popular opinion, like mace and halberd.
It was great when it was the only polearm you could wield with 3/3/3.
Ever since that retarded loadout overhaul, you can bring any weapon with full plate and many became pointless, especially now that Bloodlust sucks.
your kicks are so good, could you make a video on when to kick. Im level 87 and I still suck at knowing when to kick
bump
when an enemty goes in for a swing or after a miss and he is really close also you can cancel a feint into a kick dont cancel the feint just start the feint and then press f its really quick
Im really tired of everyone using gs and eve, lets hope your video makes some people try new stuff, i’ll definitely give it a try
What is eve
@@wiciwooowiciwoo5988 eveningstar aka one of the only actual op weps, cancerous damage and broken animations
I would gladly fight against GS or Eveningstar than fight billhook stab spamming and feinting bstard.
@@KGAnims agreed
@@KGAnims i just started using eve, my god is it easy to drag/accel/anim feint
why i'm subscribed just now?!
So much important information! Daamn
Thanks for the vid, nice to see I made it into it.
Billhook is one of my mains.
i just love the way it looks. :)
It was my first polearms after the shortspear and I used it nearly exclusively for leg hunting (most wear 0, 1 at best). I also went after cavalry with it, but I hated the low damage, especially stabs were worse against armor than the halberd or poleaxe, not to forget the spear...
Wow I didn't knew that it pushes your enemy closer to you on hit, nice vid.
There's more, if you are lucky, you can pull an enemy right on your friendly archer's projectile way, so enemy basically just can run from arrow or a bolt :)
I mean they can't
thats a really cool combo, definitely will give it a go
Honestly have 1,300 hours in this game and i’m just now learning the pull effect with the billhook also cripples them.
I am a big zwei main and I really like the 1vX potential, but I think I should try a new weapon each week or so and play around with it. Bill hook sounds so fun to me, even if a big reason is is that its unpopular.
Every billhook main that I have faced has absolutely destroyed me tho
1:44 How do you stop the weapon mid air? happens a lot of times in this video.
It's just a miss into kick combo. If you miss an lmb and combo it into another lmb it doesn't look like the first attack stops mid air because the windup of the 2nd attack blends into the animation.
I have over 800H with this weapon.. You forget to talk about switch-grip feinting.
and that IS competitive viable. WTF are you talking about Louie
billhook bill?
@@joethegeordie5032 billy billhook
I find it interesting that people don't really use this weapon much. It's hands down my favorite polearm.
I demand an entire weapon series much like hexen back in the day
Good video!
heavy legs do more kick damage? I had no idea
1:47 are you overdragging to miss on purpose so you can get the quick kick?
you dont really need to do that but it throws people off. If people chamber FTP or backpedal its pretty useless so its of limited use
That one hit off-screen. You can tell by watching the damage indicator.
Man, I was in the video! :D @1:25
I find it hillarious when I down a rider and my whole team gangs up on the poor guy
Great video, very intuitive
dont even play the game, i just love how u explain it
Btw I'd love a full weapon focus series like this video. Or an armour overview one for startests, I, for example, didn't know T2 armour is almost as good as T3 in duel context (despite using it for a month after release exclusively lmao) and there's probably a lot more "low information" players like me.
PPS How viable are t2 helmets?
God damn it!!! I got to be the kick range example death. I WAS ONLY THERE TRYIN OUT MY NEW VALSGARDE HELMET!!!! :'( Also nice video, me likey the Billhook
Great video!!
we found the underated perk
Wow thats amazing
Great content! Subbed
my favourite weapon
good video
I have been loking for this video u get sub
How do I change between one handed and two Handed on swords that allow it?
Probably "R"
this weapon is all im using now
I'll tell you that the 10% that should know how to defend themselves against movie-choreography level attacks can still get caught off guard if you mix the BS in with solid play. [spinning cleaver chambers]
Louie could you make an advanced guide on skrims. I've gotten into playing pubs lately and I'm getting crushed. I want to get good at skrims and I would like a video about skrims. I think it would also gain views too.
For some reason i read skyrim instead of skrims.
@@AMVhuntingSyndrom lmfao
Seems my billhock is broken, because it doesn´t pull enemies at all. After seeing the video I tested it with a friend and for whatever reason it simply doesn´t work for me. (thought that i was just too stupid the whole time) Has someone experienced something similar?
That's really weird. Can you upload a video clip? I wanna see that.
seth everman?
nice video
i use it only for horses and jousting
I AM THE #2 SKILLHOOK NA I AM THE #2 SKILLHOOK MAIN NA
How do you get your game to look so smooth?
max fov, head bob to 0 and a stable framerate.
Skillhook
0:17 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 hahahaha wtf
how do you get these graphics
What exactly do you mean?
@@KingLouie111 Your graphics looks so smooth
Thats why it is my main :^)
They nerfed bloodlust lool good finally I'm reinstalling
2:30
I just smash left click until it works
" 'Tis a rare thing to see a man who handles his weapon, as well as I do"
SPEND THE MONEY
2:40 nt
"Flashy plays like this is not viable, but they work against 90% of the player base"
Me: Confused??
Basically, using stupid wonky animations and spamming feints are impossible for everyone to counter except the top 10% of players with way too many hours on the game.
@@tau-5794 I got that but he said that "This is not viable" 90% is pretty viable in my mind.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 he said "flashy plays like these are not COMPETITIVELY < viable". Against 90% of casual playerbase it is viable but not against melee deities that are playing this game competitively.
Warum hast du soviel geld
I'm in this video and I don't like it. I remember dueling you and we killed each other a good number of times, I also love your videos but me getting rekt made me sad
“Pride is not the opposite of shame, but it's source. True humility is the only antidote to shame.” - Uncle Iroh (ATLA)
@KingLouie111 can I 1v1 u
WERE IS THE GOD HIMSELF SHUCKLE THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
this NEEDS a nerf, actually all polearms are too cheap and animations are crazy fast or slow
So sick of cry babies bitching about shit that needs to be nerfed. Like, I'm sorry you suck bro but that doesn't mean everything should be nerfed.
I hate horsemans soo much... thankfully this weapon exist.
But fighting with this feels weird. It feels like it is "realy good" and "not realy" at the same time.
The pull and kick technique seems epic, I never have an idea how to use the pull mechanic in a fight realy, but this is what I probably should try.
I wish that the range of billhook would increase with alt mode and then also you wont be able to combo. Its hard to get them down if they arent stucked
This is fucking disgusting holy shit, definitely trying this next time I play.
its good in duels, but its so bad in 1vx's
'I like it for the aesthetic reasons..."
Proceeds to show ugliest character XD
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