one of the main things that make an important difference between high end tools and cheap versions is the blade/cutter steel quality. High end steel with better edge retention and durability cost more so when it comes to anything with an edge that you expect to be cutting with often you definitely get what you pay for. Something I learned very fast coming from the world of knives.
In the early 1990’s I purchased two of these style of planes from a famous American woodworking tool catalog company. One was a chamfer plane the other a round over, both had wooden bodies and a metal shoe with a steel blade. I sharpened and honed the blades to be stupid sharp and put them to testing. The planes had a difficult time with the Native American hardwoods I used due to grain changing directions. I did not like them at all and wound up throwing them in the garbage. I stuck to a hand plane or router bit and have had predictable cut quality every time ever since.
To be honest, a lot of companies steal ideas and designs. Look how many tracksaw brands came out as soon as the patent expired from Festool. They all came out at once.
I am suprised how unaware people are that this is a widespread chinese trick. Since they're being used as manufacturing plants of the world, they find a way or another to steal the blueprints (you can't produce something unless you have all the plans anyway). And then they simply continue producing extra volume which they keep and resell for cheap to chinese companies. Is it illegal, probably but the chinese have it all figured that sueing them would be more expensive and leads nowhere in China anyway with the state actually sponsoring this kind of stealing activity litterally. The chinese find a way or another to source the missing parts usually worse quality. All this is kind of a way for China to say, you think you can use us to produce for cheap and pocket the big margins, not so, whenever you produce in china your design always ends up in our hands and is quickly grabbed by chinese companies. It's crazy that even today people still give a green card to china. Trump was doing the right thing to put quota and taxes on chinese products since they're always counterfeit one way or another. But it's the parasite usa bankers who don't want their investement in china to be threatened (they don't care about the american people) who keep china afloat with their cheating , stealing and counterfeiting. They're more guilty than the chinese and should be dealt with. "Arbeit macht frei" was the main teaching of germany to bankers who are parasites.
t is not just the cost of the plane it is the cost of shipping and fees that UPS charges over and above the shipping. The plane (a single plane) costs over $300 in Canada. Woodpeckers does not care. UPS does not care. It has stopped me from buying stuff from american manufactures before.
Sometimes you just want to quickly ease and edge on a straight board without having to dig out a router, or make noise or dust. Sometimes it's quicker sometimes it's not. It depends on the work.
Can't comment on why professionals use it, but I live in a residential area and using a quiet hand tool is much friendlier towards my neighbours than firing up a noisy router.
Also woodpeckers isn't painted..it's anodized. That and the steel quality in the blade, the blade moving back and forth and probably 20 other things is why woodpeckers is so much more expensive. You're actually paying for quality with them
The adjustment mechanism is inferior to Woodpeckers. Definitely not the same. The Woodpecker blade/iron has zero movement and makes no noise when being adjusted. The Woodpecker is not painted, it's anodized and it does not rub off. The tactile experience of the Woodpecker makes me actually want to use my plane and makes it enjoyable. Mine worked perfectly right out of the box with no tinkering or re-engineering.
@@thewoodwork_ca I sure understand with your cost in Canada. I never realized that it cost that much more. There really is no comparison between the two as far as quality though.
Doubtful. They're all usually made in the same factory minus the woodpeckers which is made in house. The rest are made then individual companies buy them with names, put their own name on it and that's why it's so many companies offering the same exact thing
The cheapest one I see in Canada Amazon is about $21 with free shipping. It’s crazy how low they’re going. People are looking at the carbide blade version now maybe.
one of the main things that make an important difference between high end tools and cheap versions is the blade/cutter steel quality. High end steel with better edge retention and durability cost more so when it comes to anything with an edge that you expect to be cutting with often you definitely get what you pay for. Something I learned very fast coming from the world of knives.
In the early 1990’s I purchased two of these style of planes from a famous American woodworking tool catalog company. One was a chamfer plane the other a round over, both had wooden bodies and a metal shoe with a steel blade. I sharpened and honed the blades to be stupid sharp and put them to testing. The planes had a difficult time with the Native American hardwoods I used due to grain changing directions. I did not like them at all and wound up throwing them in the garbage. I stuck to a hand plane or router bit and have had predictable cut quality every time ever since.
Thanks for the information. Very helpful!
I will never buy a product from a company that steals someone elses design.
To be honest, a lot of companies steal ideas and designs. Look how many tracksaw brands came out as soon as the patent expired from Festool. They all came out at once.
I am suprised how unaware people are that this is a widespread chinese trick. Since they're being used as manufacturing plants of the world, they find a way or another to steal the blueprints (you can't produce something unless you have all the plans anyway). And then they simply continue producing extra volume which they keep and resell for cheap to chinese companies. Is it illegal, probably but the chinese have it all figured that sueing them would be more expensive and leads nowhere in China anyway with the state actually sponsoring this kind of stealing activity litterally. The chinese find a way or another to source the missing parts usually worse quality. All this is kind of a way for China to say, you think you can use us to produce for cheap and pocket the big margins, not so, whenever you produce in china your design always ends up in our hands and is quickly grabbed by chinese companies. It's crazy that even today people still give a green card to china. Trump was doing the right thing to put quota and taxes on chinese products since they're always counterfeit one way or another. But it's the parasite usa bankers who don't want their investement in china to be threatened (they don't care about the american people) who keep china afloat with their cheating , stealing and counterfeiting. They're more guilty than the chinese and should be dealt with. "Arbeit macht frei" was the main teaching of germany to bankers who are parasites.
You get what you pay for, I'll stick with Woodpeckers. Plus, it's designed and made here in the USA.
t is not just the cost of the plane it is the cost of shipping and fees that UPS charges over and above the shipping. The plane (a single plane) costs over $300 in Canada. Woodpeckers does not care. UPS does not care. It has stopped me from buying stuff from american manufactures before.
@@DanT10 I can certainly understand that. Shipping fees to Canada are outrageous.
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hi sir iam new, can you help me, i want to know why people still using edge plane since we already got router / trimmer machine?
Sometimes you just want to quickly ease and edge on a straight board without having to dig out a router, or make noise or dust. Sometimes it's quicker sometimes it's not. It depends on the work.
@@thewoodwork_ca tqvm thats was a clear answer.
Can't comment on why professionals use it, but I live in a residential area and using a quiet hand tool is much friendlier towards my neighbours than firing up a noisy router.
You actually don't have to take the face off. Just screw it until it comes out. Screw the new one in or that one back in once sharpened
Junk..Thanks for showing this. That blade movement is all i had to see
There is no blade movement now, the new version have a retainer screw.
Also woodpeckers isn't painted..it's anodized. That and the steel quality in the blade, the blade moving back and forth and probably 20 other things is why woodpeckers is so much more expensive. You're actually paying for quality with them
The adjustment mechanism is inferior to Woodpeckers. Definitely not the same. The Woodpecker blade/iron has zero movement and makes no noise when being adjusted. The Woodpecker is not painted, it's anodized and it does not rub off. The tactile experience of the Woodpecker makes me actually want to use my plane and makes it enjoyable. Mine worked perfectly right out of the box with no tinkering or re-engineering.
I hear what you’re saying. I have lots of boutique tools I love to pick up and use. But I didn’t mind skimping on this particular tool.
@@thewoodwork_ca I sure understand with your cost in Canada. I never realized that it cost that much more. There really is no comparison between the two as far as quality though.
A better version is the HONGDUI Woodworks Chamfer Plane Double Cutter. Very high end too even superior to woodpeckers.
Doubtful. They're all usually made in the same factory minus the woodpeckers which is made in house. The rest are made then individual companies buy them with names, put their own name on it and that's why it's so many companies offering the same exact thing
Amazon has the knockoff for $5.31 now.
The cheapest one I see in Canada Amazon is about $21 with free shipping. It’s crazy how low they’re going. People are looking at the carbide blade version now maybe.
Sorry, but I hate junk copies of decent tools. I will keep my Woodpecker set of 4 corner planes. Keep your junk.
If you can afford expensive tools fine,the rest of us have to do with what we can afford even if it's cheap tools.