Excellent video sir. I'm considering getting an AEM5, but information is just sort of scattered out there. Recently Allen actually posted some useful articles, but really should have done so sooner.
If you ever have carbon problems like that again, throw the suppressor in an ultrasonic cleaner with WD-40. Works quite well for easily getting rid of your carbon problems
So you apparently had to change the stock collar too. If I have to change collar too it doesn't exactly work stock. See what I mean? I'm just surprised you had to change the collar as well, so it is a sorta in my book. Hence why I bothered asking.
@AldoSchmedack sorry, I haven't watched the video in a while. The M4 style collar reflexes back over the M203 cut out. That cut out is too narrow to use a stock collar. If the barrel was thick enough, you could use a stock collar. But not on an M4 profile.
I ask because I have a DD S2W 18" heavy barrel and apparently it was machined wrong either deliberately (to avoid liability) or accidentally (messed up). The collar sits ahead 1.000" too far and I am gonna have to have a custom collar made for it. Was thinking I could try other collars but doubt I am gonna get that to work. The barrel bumps out at wrong spot that partial bit at wrong spot. Trying to figure out a fix but doubt it will work. And I don't want to mess with the barrel because it is already built, and is finished special for corrosion resistance. I am tempted to try a flash hider that Otter Creek makes vs the brake that Allen makes which I have already.
Hello. I noticed you mentioned about the LMT 203 grenade launcher. So which AME am I going to need to still be able to attach the M203, AME 4 or AME 5?? Thank you an thank you for your timely response
does the barrel need to be turned/profiled a certain way to force the collar to sit at a specific length, like an M27 bayonet lug? Or does it just go anywhere so long as it's the correct girth and you just set screw it in place?
Its not dimpled. I just cranked the screw down and staked the threads with a punch. Idk wait threads, M6x24? Maybe bigger? Spikes didn't know and it was bigger than the AEM set screw
What is the distance you need from the tip of the threads to the VERY back of the collar? I am not making a clone but I have an 18" SPR and I want to put the AEM5 on it....but I want to make sure I put a handguard that allows enough room. Thank you so much.
Your barrel has to have the collar step cut into it. If it has that and the step cut is visible out past the hand guard then the 5th model will fit no problem.
@@99cobra2881 I appreciate the reply but I am not building a clone am I building a different SPR with can, just want to know the clearance. I am using a WOA or Douglas barrel so it will have he cut out machined into it. Would a 13.5" handguard work with a 16" barrel?
@ Ive got the 18" woa spr barrel with a 16" aero atlas hand guard this combo allows room for the collar. The step is about 3/4" in front of the handguard. So with a 16" I think youll have to find a 13.5" hand guard to be safe or possibly check first to see if a 14" handguard would allow clearance. Theres no way a 15" handguard would give enough room unless the handguard allowed the suppressor to tuck. If the barrel is cut for a 5th model then it should be an apples to apples comparison with the 14" handguard working on the 16" mod H barrel
So, I have a Centurion 18" mk12 barrel (ops inc cut) and was wondering if it matters which supressor collar is used. I can't really find any info on whether I should do a short or long collar or if it even matters. Any info would be appreciated.
I think there is like: this gun should use the "long" collar and this style should use the "short" collar. But, functionality, they should be the same. It was never important to me. I just think the long mk12 collar looks better floating in the middle of nowhere on the barrel. I've had both the long and short collar on the same barrel and they worked fine. If you got your barrel from Centurion and your collar from AE then it's in spec and well made.
It is working good. I don't have a ton of 556 right now so I've been using my AKs. Once I get some I need to sight in the scope on this guy. As long as you have someone profile the barrel correctly it should work good.
My handguard is exactly 8" long and my barrel is exactly 10" long. I would probably have to get a custom made collar, but is the 2" of barrel past the handguard enough for an AEM4 or AEM5 to recess without hitting the handguard?
If I have an Mk12 profile DPMS barrel on a separate gun and want to run my AEM5 (which is still in ATF jail) are there specific measurements somewhere that tells me how far down the barrel the collar should be placed for proper lockup? I actually have an MK12 Clone direct from PRI so I could technically use it as a reference but I do not have a caliper to get down to the nitty gritty dimensions like you have. Im wondering if I add that collar (assuming it just set screws onto the barrel) if its going to affect the accuracy of that barrel. Its a tack driver as it stands with a surefire break and FA556-212 suppressor on it.
Nevermind. I just realized there is a small step just before the gas block where it butts up agains. However, my new 15" rail hides it by about 1/2" : ( so not sure what Ill do.
@@mrgood1cor13 What did you end up doing? Im looking at the feasibility of using an AE5 and collar on my 18” SPR profile barrel but I also have a 15” handguard thats very slim so theres no way to shroud the AE5 can in the handguard. Any insights are appreciated. Thanks!
I looked to get an AEM 5, i have a Mod 0, 1 & H. Allen is retiring this year and not taking orders. Anyone know an alternate suppressor to fit the break and collar or an adapter that threads to my silencer co hybrid?
The AEM4 is designed to fit on an M4 barrel with the specific M4 collar. It will not fit on a Mk12 barrel. The AEM2,3,4 are all setup for the M4 and the M4 specific collar.
I want to run my AEM5 on a 12.5" barrel. I have the mk12 collar but not the m4 collar. If I fill the gap between my collar and gas block with 2" long pvc pipe (so it extends my collar and backs it against my gas block) I get 8.5 turns on my AEM5 Suppressor. Do you think that will work?
So the thread protector screws off? The morons at Allen Engineering put it on upside down then.... And the lady on the phone I spoke with said that it's just supposed to sit at the bottom on that collar... I didn't think so, I'm so angry right now, didn't they turn barrels for the Navy and Army Mk12 programs? Since it was 308, I sent it my rifle for the custom 308 Douglas spr barrel and they just installed the Ops Inc stuff when they turned the threads for everything.
Excellent video sir. I'm considering getting an AEM5, but information is just sort of scattered out there.
Recently Allen actually posted some useful articles, but really should have done so sooner.
@DogeMcLovin they are good cans, they just need some setup for use
You can use an M203-2003 launcher using the Knight RAS rail, allowing you to use a collar that blocks the M203 barrel relief.
I picked up an AEM 4 to run on a 12.5 with grenade launcher did not know the spike parts worked so well
If you ever have carbon problems like that again, throw the suppressor in an ultrasonic cleaner with WD-40. Works quite well for easily getting rid of your carbon problems
So will the Spikes brake work with a Mk12 and an Ops AEM5?
I mean... didn't you see me... mount one in the video?
So you apparently had to change the stock collar too. If I have to change collar too it doesn't exactly work stock. See what I mean? I'm just surprised you had to change the collar as well, so it is a sorta in my book. Hence why I bothered asking.
@@MaverickTangentAnd no, you never mounted it to either.
@AldoSchmedack sorry, I haven't watched the video in a while. The M4 style collar reflexes back over the M203 cut out. That cut out is too narrow to use a stock collar. If the barrel was thick enough, you could use a stock collar. But not on an M4 profile.
I ask because I have a DD S2W 18" heavy barrel and apparently it was machined wrong either deliberately (to avoid liability) or accidentally (messed up). The collar sits ahead 1.000" too far and I am gonna have to have a custom collar made for it. Was thinking I could try other collars but doubt I am gonna get that to work. The barrel bumps out at wrong spot that partial bit at wrong spot. Trying to figure out a fix but doubt it will work. And I don't want to mess with the barrel because it is already built, and is finished special for corrosion resistance. I am tempted to try a flash hider that Otter Creek makes vs the brake that Allen makes which I have already.
Do you know what the measurement from the theads to the chamfer on the collar is...on the spr barrel?
Hello. I noticed you mentioned about the LMT 203 grenade launcher. So which AME am I going to need to still be able to attach the M203, AME 4 or AME 5?? Thank you an thank you for your timely response
does the barrel need to be turned/profiled a certain way to force the collar to sit at a specific length, like an M27 bayonet lug? Or does it just go anywhere so long as it's the correct girth and you just set screw it in place?
Is the barrel dimpled where the collar goes on? What size allen key and torque on the collar? Thanks
Its not dimpled. I just cranked the screw down and staked the threads with a punch. Idk wait threads, M6x24? Maybe bigger? Spikes didn't know and it was bigger than the AEM set screw
@@MaverickTangent Thanks
@@chaoticcaninejb it hasn't backed off yet
@@MaverickTangent Awesome, I wasn't sure if any different barrels had it dimpled. Doesn't seem so
@@chaoticcaninejb I thought about dimpling it but the screw is harder than the barrel so it will dimple itself
How would you go about mounting one of these brakes on a 20” M16A2 barrel with a FSB? Would it just go on or would the barrel need to be reprofiled?
I have no idea. You should assume that it needs machine work. The brake would go on fine. But the collar needs fit.
So I have a m4 gov 14.5 barrel and I plan on buying the m4 collar and running the aem 5. Will that work?
What is the distance you need from the tip of the threads to the VERY back of the collar?
I am not making a clone but I have an 18" SPR and I want to put the AEM5 on it....but I want to make sure I put a handguard that allows enough room.
Thank you so much.
Your barrel has to have the collar step cut into it. If it has that and the step cut is visible out past the hand guard then the 5th model will fit no problem.
@@99cobra2881 I appreciate the reply but I am not building a clone am I building a different SPR with can, just want to know the clearance. I am using a WOA or Douglas barrel so it will have he cut out machined into it.
Would a 13.5" handguard work with a 16" barrel?
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Ive got the 18" woa spr barrel with a 16" aero atlas hand guard this combo allows room for the collar. The step is about 3/4" in front of the handguard. So with a 16" I think youll have to find a 13.5" hand guard to be safe or possibly check first to see if a 14" handguard would allow clearance. Theres no way a 15" handguard would give enough room unless the handguard allowed the suppressor to tuck.
If the barrel is cut for a 5th model then it should be an apples to apples comparison with the 14" handguard working on the 16" mod H barrel
So, I have a Centurion 18" mk12 barrel (ops inc cut) and was wondering if it matters which supressor collar is used. I can't really find any info on whether I should do a short or long collar or if it even matters. Any info would be appreciated.
I think there is like: this gun should use the "long" collar and this style should use the "short" collar. But, functionality, they should be the same. It was never important to me. I just think the long mk12 collar looks better floating in the middle of nowhere on the barrel. I've had both the long and short collar on the same barrel and they worked fine. If you got your barrel from Centurion and your collar from AE then it's in spec and well made.
Hows this working out? It looks like spikes shortened the brake
It is working good. I don't have a ton of 556 right now so I've been using my AKs. Once I get some I need to sight in the scope on this guy. As long as you have someone profile the barrel correctly it should work good.
@@MaverickTangent I have a few ak's myself. I haven't even finished building the ar because of the ammo prices.
@@Nick-fm9ux no doubt! Like, what's the point of a build if I should be getting ammo. I'm working on a Jack Carbine clone
@@MaverickTangent I'll keep an out for the video!
My handguard is exactly 8" long and my barrel is exactly 10" long.
I would probably have to get a custom made collar, but is the 2" of barrel past the handguard enough for an AEM4 or AEM5 to recess without hitting the handguard?
If I have an Mk12 profile DPMS barrel on a separate gun and want to run my AEM5 (which is still in ATF jail) are there specific measurements somewhere that tells me how far down the barrel the collar should be placed for proper lockup? I actually have an MK12 Clone direct from PRI so I could technically use it as a reference but I do not have a caliper to get down to the nitty gritty dimensions like you have. Im wondering if I add that collar (assuming it just set screws onto the barrel) if its going to affect the accuracy of that barrel. Its a tack driver as it stands with a surefire break and FA556-212 suppressor on it.
Nevermind. I just realized there is a small step just before the gas block where it butts up agains. However, my new 15" rail hides it by about 1/2" : ( so not sure what Ill do.
@@mrgood1cor13
What did you end up doing?
Im looking at the feasibility of using an AE5 and collar on my 18” SPR profile barrel but I also have a 15” handguard thats very slim so theres no way to shroud the AE5 can in the handguard.
Any insights are appreciated. Thanks!
Any ideas for what collar I need for a 14.5 government barrel?
Custom made.
I looked to get an AEM 5, i have a Mod 0, 1 & H. Allen is retiring this year and not taking orders. Anyone know an alternate suppressor to fit the break and collar or an adapter that threads to my silencer co hybrid?
Otter creek labs ocm5
@@FloridaSpook thanks Il
How does an LRS-2 compare to the AEM5?
what is the difference between the AEM 4 and the AEM 5?
The AEM4 is designed to fit on an M4 barrel with the specific M4 collar. It will not fit on a Mk12 barrel. The AEM2,3,4 are all setup for the M4 and the M4 specific collar.
@@MaverickTangent Did you use the AEM 5 just to get more use out of the suppressor?
@@Blind0062 yes. I paid a Smith $50 to machine my barrel to fit the AEM5 so I wouldn't have to buy an entire 2nd suppressor just for this rifle.
I want to run my AEM5 on a 12.5" barrel. I have the mk12 collar but not the m4 collar. If I fill the gap between my collar and gas block with 2" long pvc pipe (so it extends my collar and backs it against my gas block) I get 8.5 turns on my AEM5 Suppressor. Do you think that will work?
Just call allen engineering, Ron will give you measurements and make a collar for you for $40
The pvc pipe will melt first shooting session.
So the thread protector screws off? The morons at Allen Engineering put it on upside down then.... And the lady on the phone I spoke with said that it's just supposed to sit at the bottom on that collar... I didn't think so, I'm so angry right now, didn't they turn barrels for the Navy and Army Mk12 programs? Since it was 308, I sent it my rifle for the custom 308 Douglas spr barrel and they just installed the Ops Inc stuff when they turned the threads for everything.