Officers Arrest Blind Veteran
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Local news article: bit.ly/2w2RIkB
HIPAA: bit.ly/31F3xcB
Wilson v. State: bit.ly/2OGN5D8
Sheets v. City of Punta Gorda: bit.ly/2Hck8Lu
Article on Sheets case: bit.ly/2vjXm1z
Katz v. United States: bit.ly/38huiq6
Expectation of privacy test: bit.ly/2uxHWqj
Article on expectation of privacy: bit.ly/2OGVx5z
Trespass and public buildings: unc.live/2SfzvsA
Public forum doctrine: bit.ly/37ehnUz
Time, place and manner restrictions: bit.ly/3bjupTM
Perry Education Association v. Perry Local Educators' Association: bit.ly/2tKaUmx
29 U.S. Code § 3002: bit.ly/3bjuSp0
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Pentico v. State: bit.ly/2UQjtXZ
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Thank you for breaking down these types of interactions with government/state & public officials they need to accountable for there actions once again thank you 👍
I'm glad u covered this interaction. Thank u.
I wonder if he would have left if the guard identified himself?
Wouldn’t the fact he was in a public lobby make a difference to the “expectation of privacy”. I’d understand if he was walking the halls and offices but he never went outside of the lobby area.
Since that is a public lobby with no restricted access, hasn't it been ruled by the supreme court that there is zero expectation of privacy in a public setting?
I question your part in the video that states where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. The expectation of privacy is behind the glass and doors where the paperwork is handled. If I have access to the lobby and I see private information, it's the same as if I record private information. No filming policy on the door is not the law and therefore, it is not valid from what I can see and understand from our rights and laws.
@@grkxkosta3396 I don't agree with this assessment. If the officers believe that the man is interfering with the publics reasonable expectation of privacy. You can't give him an a- and the others an f (other than the officer that refused to identify). It is up to the court to decide whether the officers were correct and they gave him the opportunity to leave willingly. He refused and was place under arrest and also resisted.
It is not up to the administrator to rule on the legitimacy of his phone as an aid. If he thought the charge was invalid he he should have fought it in court.
ANY "officer" that says "my law" should be fired!
They really should. It proves motive other than upholding the law.
I think hes a rent a cop
He is security.
Fired UPON!!!
J
Refusing to identify themselves legitimized his need for recording interactions. As a blind person he has no other way to identify individuals who may refuse to identify themselves and assault or batter him or his property.
Please in the front lobby all private conversations are held in a separate Room just off to the left of the main screen
@@dansmith5160 the devices he has were given to him by the VA to help him his injury caused him to have memory problems and as this video shows he can't see to describe or identify anyone. The devices also help him navigate and read he has videos of him showing how those functions work. Now as for recording in a hospital lobby there is no expectation of privacy as it is full of strangers if he had gone into the rooms different story. I see people in waiting rooms on there phones all the time and they could be recording in secret or just playing candy crush who knows. However the force used on him was beyond excessive and and even if it was someone who could see no one should be slammed to the ground like he was over a something so minor as this.
@@dansmith5160 I saw the video the day it happened he never tried to go anywhere but that counter to ask his questions. He never approached other people waiting to record them. The reaction from these staff was like using dynamite to kill a house fly. This could have gone differently if the first guard had told him who he was because as we have the ability to see who is giving an order he doesn't and for all he knows it's just a random person trying to push him around. The video is a testament to why he records everything because had he not recorded this he would not be able to say who was involved because all he got was Leslie's first name and it's a common name and I can't recall if the captain identified himself but the other guard would never have been identified.
@@dansmith5160 I'm not disagreeing with the fact there should be restrictions in certain places for people recording. Lobbies open to everyone are not one of those places in my opinion. I don't know how the hospital is laid out but the hospitals where I live have access doors that you need a key card to access for sensitive areas and only staff can open them so in those types of areas I say nope can't record here but in the video he is in the main lobby by the entrance you can see the main doors several feet away so in that area I would say ok this is not a special area. Maybe I see it different than others but that is my thought process on it. What are your thoughts?
@@dansmith5160 Except this wasn't the hallway of a hospital. This was a public lobby of a health office. No expectation of privacy applies to this case. Staff and security were 100% in the wrong here, lets not detract from that, despite your feelings on the matter. We're talking about law enforcement, not feelings enforcement. No law was broken in this video.
"My law" and him taking advantage of the vet's blindness by failing to properly identify himself, are the kinds of actions that contribute to distrust of officers.
“You can ask the officer his name, he’ll identify himself”
“Can you identify yourself?”
Silence…
“No”
And then he asked the new cop to identify him, and the new cop just says "you were told to leave quit recording"
“No we aren’t threatening you”
...puts blind man in hospital
@Mythus News no it wasn't, source?
@@MickSkitz That's what Mr. Nelson said. There is no way to independently prove that outside of a lawsuit discovering the facts of the case. If/when Mr. Nelson files suit this will be undoubtedly explored further.
@@MickSkitz Obviously if they RELEASED him a few hours later.
@@purplepuffs2095 okay so he's a disabled veteran. Its like knocking an old guy over on the street, the actual injury isn't key here its the potential. Who do you think understands how much more force it would have taken for it to be life threatening.
The answer is it was enough force to give him a bleed, therefore it was enough force to threaten his life. From the account that he was picked up outside they needed to call medics but they didn't want it called into the facility. Dodgy as hell.
@@lizcollinson2692 Thank God for the recording. It would be his word against them.
“WHO DID THIS TO YOU!!”
Blind man: “I don’t know. They shut off my recording.”
Exactly
Recording as a party to a conversation, particularly recording of this nature, is pretty clearly assistive. An ordinary person has no obligation to forget what he sees in the course of his life, a blind man should have every right to share with somebody in confidence what a sighted man could see and remember, in order to restore that basic ability.
microcolonel
Thank you!!!
microcolonel
If our right to privacy’s really applies then EVERYONE should be blindfolded!!!
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I'm legally blind and I use the zoom function on my phone's camera to see things I need to see that I can't get close enough to such as signs, bulletin boards, fast food menus or items of interest that are in display cases. I have been yelled at, kicked out of places and one fast food employee even tried to physically take my phone from me (I also rely on my phone to help me navigate unfamiliar places, so losing it would have been bad). If it isn't to busy i'll even go out of my way to explain my situation to the staff and assure them that I'm not recording, or exactly what I want to record (usually a photo of a menu so that my phone pointing doesn't make people uncomfortable) and many businesses will still say "no!" but then won't even offer an alternative solution. It can be quite frustrating. Especially when I'm with other people and I can't just leave.
Also, one time I was walking home at night from my friend's house and two dudes over 6 feet tall told me to go to them. I'm 5 feet tall and
So sorry this happened/happens to you ☹🥺. I always think about people who may have impairments since I have a grandmother who has several needs although she can do for herself. So many people are so selfish and volatile towards each other based on assumptions. I started being more aware of others who might need help with reading something or a door held for them, etc. Even tho I live in a big city, I do my best to speak up for & help those in need.
@@mamiminowknowsbest Thanks for doing that for people. I think with how fast technology is advancing, it is hard for people to keep up. Especially if it's in a field that doesn't normally concern them such as assistive technology for the disabled. So, when they see an unfamiliar piece of tech or someone using a piece of tech in an unfamiliar way, it reflexively makes them uneasy and defensive (this is often a useful reflex to have, because unfamiliar things have an unknown potential to harm and it's generally better to be safe than sorry). I try to remember that usually when someone has an adverse reaction to me or what I'm doing, it's usually because, in truth they are actually scared of something they don't understand. Most of the time patience and information can go a long way.
@@zachcrawford5 that's unfortunate that you feel empathy for the "people" that have negative reactions to you, however they can't return or extend courtesy back to you 😔. That's why spreading awareness about these things can go a long way. Schools, universities, workplaces etc, should teach about visual impairments & other medical conditions just like American sign language. But even then it's only taught in some schools. We as a whole need to be more accepting of each other in so many more ways. 🤗
Must be nice to live in such a great country here in america they would have shot you and put a gun on ya so they get away with murder and get treated like a hero america legal system is super fucked up
@@kevincoffey3112 it’s not too different here in Canada. Sure it’s far from being like America but is still happens every day specially if you’re from a different ethnic background
Security: “Don’t you see me?”
Blind Auditor: ....“No”
🤣🤣🤣
"It's posted on the door"
"You know my eyes don't work?"
That is proof that these public officials are either malicious or massively incompetent.
Ian Battles they are both
@@ianbattles7290 , no, it isn't. A reasonable explanation is that they were informing him that the policy existed and was in place before he entered the building, so that he didn't think that they were just making up rules on the spot. Don't simply assume your preferred conclusion. Maybe that conclusion is the correct one but to ignore other possibilities is to be unreasonable.
@@wunnell It may have been a reasonable explanation for normal professional people but these employees were visibly malicious and could have easily avoided how poorly the situation was ultimately dealt with.
@@phishwak , I don't disagree but, if there are issues, I prefer to stick to those issues, rather than things that aren't issues. If something is bad it's bad, so you don't have to make stuff up or exaggerate to make it seem bad.
- Sir I need some help.
- Everything you need to know is written on this wall.
- But I'm blind.
- Everything you need to know is written on this wall.
- I can't read.
- Everything you need to know is written on this wall.
I am visually challenged..
The "Knucklehead" Amendment???
Sounds like my professor
He isn’t actually blind or visually impaired in any way
@@Mayonegg85 He is legally blind. Look it up.
Damn, so they assaulted a blind man, causing him brain trauma and temporary memory loss? How aren't they all in jail? I though I've seen a lot of injustice in ATA's videos, but this one is on a completely new lever of immoral.
Because the dude is probably a shitbird lying vet. I know the type, I served 8 years in the marine corps and his kind is easy to spot. Probably never even got deployed but wants to feel special.
I got one for you. Don't think that just because you're in a wheelchair that people will treat you the way the law is written. I got the treatment of a lifetime by two companies. MTM LLC and Amtrak. Amtrak took my wheelchair away and forced me to use my crutches that I used to transfer in and out of the wheelchair to stand for 6hrs they wouldn't even kick the people out of the handicap seating I was asualtted and threaten in a group of people for someone on the train smoking and I got assaulted on the tracks because my wheels kept getting stuck between the tracks and the cement so I was asualtted by a employee. As a handicap person it was my 1st train trip and my last trip on any public transportation the Airport treats you the same way. Just pray that you don't ever get injured and find yourself in our position because it's not what you think that you have rights.
He was filming how is he blind?
@@lordbohundecasio541 watch again. It is explained.
this scumbag is NOT blind. he is a fkn FRAUD. there are plenty of videos right here on youtube that prove it.
1:53 that "well who are you?" was SO smooth if he had gotten the officers name there that would have been legendary
Lady wearing skulls: “it’s posted on the door”
Blind man: 😵
blind pikachu face
For a person working in the health field, she’s not too bright.
@@avian1971 that is normal
The woman is not professional clearly, partly shown by what she is wearing!
That woman needs fired...God complex plus her attitude towards a blind veteran stinks as does that 1st cop!!
"Can't you see me?"
"no"
I've heard of quite a few blind people who record their daily interactions so they can show it to a significant other who can fill them in on what they missed. It's also a safety thing. So... Basically he uses a video camera as an aid for his disability. Therefore I'm pretty sure this is discrimination. 🤷🏼♀️
As a VETERAN whenever people say to me "Thank you for your service" I think of this video.
I think it's telling that a large proportion of homeless people are veterans...
Oh. Do you harass people too?
@@SebAnders prove it
'It is difficult to understand how a disabled veteran recording himself inside a government building resulted in a violent arrest, jail and a brain injury'.
They gave him enough time to leave but Mr. Nelson is just wasting everyone's time, acting like BOSS, trying to make a scene and refused to stop recording. Mr.Nelson clearly broke the LAW that he was trying to protect.
Because: America, land of the free....
Praneeth he suggested more than once that he would leave once the officer gives him his name so that he could file a complaint.
tbh i don't think it was the recording "himself" part. which he barely even did
@@RandomRads bootlicker
She's so wrong for telling a blind man that there is information posted on the door.. That's like telling someone who's mute to speak up. 🤔
I'm blind, and I don't think it was wrong at all. If someone tells me that it is posted on the doors, my ugly ass had better listen because more than likely, it's a fact.
"My law." That makes my blood boil. You're a security guard bro. As a former security guard in Indy, I know I had very limited authority.
I can't stop watching these audits. Your research on every aspect of each encounter is amazing. The documents/cases you bring up are perfect. I wouldn't even know where to start.
If they have protected patient information that is covered by HIPAA that is visible and recordable from the lobby they are already in violation.
Correct
Yes that's correct but they can ask you to leave the property.
Patients in a waiting room have their privacy protected. You couldn't possibly think it would be cool to audit in the waiting room of Planned Parenthood, for example.
Thats just it, there should NEVER EVER be ANY patient information out in the open like that. It must be stored under lock and key at all times. And when carried around it must be covered in a enclosed file AT ALL TIMES so that patients Privacy and Confidentiality cannot be compromised. There is also a rule of thumb to not talk about any patients in open area's and in joint accomodation rooms. Talking about them to others that do need to know must be behind closed doors. If you need to talk with the patient, you tell them what you are about to do and then close the door with their permission and speak in private. So the HIPAA law actually shows it promotes laziness and incompetence and actually can be very easily cancelled in court.
@@theghost6412 Well, you're talking about paperwork. I'm talking about recording the identities of people sitting in a waiting room. I have never been in a clinic where patient/client information was observable to the general public - hell, most of the time they won't even let the patient look at their own file...
Untrained officers make me sad. When I was in Iraq I got trained on how to morally handle another person. I think cops need a lot more training.
These were security guards, not cops. Kind of a big difference not to pick up for someone who has so much training. I've been deployed with the army multiple times as well. Not sure what unit you were with, but I never received any training on "morally handling someone". I received multitudes of training on when to engage, and our use of force policy. I was a combat medic for an Infantry team though, maybe they only taught morally handling people in intelligence? Or as a Chaplain?
@@boom_911 The vast majority of "security" working in those facilities are LEOs...The "security" gig is their side job...Why??...Because even in a "security " capacity they still have the legal arrest powers of a LEO...Best example are bars..They hire cops to work security outside while the bouncers handle business inside...👍👍
@@freejulianassange7278 Yes. Many places do hire cops. However, Law enforcement officers, when working side jobs, still wear uniforms identifying themselves as Law enforcement. They do not and cannot wear a uniform that displays them as security, as they are not security; even when hired for a security type position.
Nor does any company want a leo to wear a security uniform. They are paying a lot more money to have actual cops instead of security. They want them in a police uniform.
Again, these were security guards. Not law enforcement.
To save money they hire contract security from an outside source. It saves them millions, and they get a break on insurance costs. I use to do security for a children's hospital. We were only paid 12 bucks an hour. It was minimal wage at the time. You were trained in fire, police tactics, how to deal with different people. How to deescalate situations. CPR first aid training. Police report writing, background investigations to make sure no one was on Megans law. Very strong access control. Sign in patients, and check them out of the system. You deal with the morgue a lot. It never made sense to me why the pay was so low. The valet people were making more. Every time we had a security meeting. They would try and distract the team by telling everyone how thankful they are to have everyone here. Thank is for our hard work. The security meeting would never go over security. It would always go over someone's personal life. How they met their wife, why i married her. My kids do this my kids do that etc. Every time staff would ask about a pay raise that wasn't on par with fast food. They would always circle jerk us. We are in discussions about the security budget. We are working on it to see what we can do. And they are the kind of dumb people wondering why 20 people a month were quitting. They wanted top flight security of the world Craig. Bit couldn't pay crap. I had enough after dealing with a woman threatening to commit suicide at the hospital. I wrote a letter telling them why im quitting. I told them straight out it made no ####### sense I can go to In And Put, most fast food places, cut grass, wash cars, deliver pizza and make double the money. They weren't having it. That pist them off. Attitude changed when I called them on their b.s. Also this security company wants 10 plus years of military experience just to do armed security at 16 bucks an hour. It use to be 15. Took them 6 years to go up a dollar. Allied Universal is a joke.
@r3conwoo It's technically a citizen's arrest: "Under the Citizen's Arrest clause, private citizens and private police, such as security guards, have the power to arrest a person committing a crime...arrest must be reasonable, and security guard must have a probable cause to arrest an individual, such as witnessing the crime." Security guards can detain a person, turn them over to actual police & file a complaint on behalf of company they work for.
The fact that anyone, let alone any type of law enforcement thought it would be ok to do that to a blind person is insane.
The fact that the others aloud this to happen regardless of their frustration is pathetic.
They should all be thrown in jail for what took place.
Aloud? How about “allowed” so you don’t seem so ignorant.
"My law." Yep, that sums it up right there; everything that is wrong with these yahoos in uniform. They have their little badge, and maybe a little gun, and now they're big boys who Make the Laws. Respeck mah authority!
All they had to do is answer his questions, treat him like a human being and not like a stay animal. They definitely escalated the incident. The original officer should be relieved of his duties there.
Agreed
Security guard
Sure, but Mr. Nelson needs to find more productive ways to occupy his time.
Mr. Nelson was clearly informed that he wasn't allowed to record. The video only starts at his interaction with the officer and not the interaction that seem to show that he was told he wasn't allowed to record there.
@@PolaOpposite Nah.
I am a veteran and work for the VA. The treatmemt of this fellow veteran makes my blood boil. The VA should represent the veteran that was mistreated, abused, and assaulted.
Sadly the VA doesn't help when these things happen to us Vets. I use to work for a contracting company of the VA and was assaulted, denied ADA accommodations to do my job, and was terrorized and physically attacked to the point where I ended up losing consciousness for several hours. The whole time this was happening I reported it to the VA and they told me to quit and deal with it. Also most lawyers I have tried to get help wont represent us because they doubt they could win, or ask for more money then the veteran has.
I sadly know this i live in va. Health care sucks
@@TheGothicqueen931 I also live in VA, but I think VA means "Veteran's Association" in this instance instead of "Virginia".
I'm confused, why was he there ? Like what is he actually doing ?
YES! a FEDERAL SUIT is warranted. Please see your VA administrator with this video. This could mean a whole new era in how things work. Ask for the administrator FIRST, and then if you get no where talk to the head doctor of the VA facility. IF that doesn't work turn on the military grapevine. Find the highest ranking military responsible and get this film to them. That is a PERFECT answer.
His video justifies why he needs to record in the first place.
"Don't you see me?"
"No..."
lmao
You neglected to mention that the arresting officer (the guy who donned gloves) never identified himself when he spoke to and when he put hands on Mr. Nelson. Mr. Nelson repeatedly screams who are you, who are you, as he's being attacked by this officer. This was omitted from your video. Mr. Nelson was treated throughout this entire interaction as though he were sighted. His disability was ignored by everyone involved. Imagine someone you can't see gives you orders you believe violate your rights then grabs you and assaults you, never deigning to identify himself as a person of authority. This is a travesty and several of these folks should be held accountable, legally and civilly.
The arresting Officer - Boyce (dubbed officer _creepy_ by subscribers due to an earlier interaction with BJ at the courthouse) did actually identify, though you could hardly hear it over BJ's screams. Consider that BJ suffers from severe PTSD, it is logical that this attack brought on an episode and BJ was likely unable to hear or react to verbal commands given by officer creepy at this time.
Oh I pray they pay!!!
Mr. Nelson ended up in the hospital two weeks after with a brain injury.
And criminally.
isn't that a Kevin Bacon movie?
11:26 He also has his i.d Badge purposefully covered up, So i assume he commits crime quite a bit.
These cops are nothing but scumbags. What sort of shitweasels does this county employ? I hope their families are really proud of them
Officer Robertson?
The guy who didn't want to id himself? Officer Robertson should be asshamed
Officer Robertson acted like an ass
Officer Robertson should apologize to the man
Officer Robertson
should apologize to the public
If not
Officer Robertson should be contacted and reminded of his awful behaviour in an attempt to get him to see and acknowledge his wrongdoings and to prevent Officer Robertson from continuing said behavior
Officer ROBERTSON
@@jmpsthrufyre officer robertson is a corrupts and powerhungry ass that should be behind bars for his violations. the security officers should loose whatever licenses they had, and the administrator should be fired outright.
He never commits a crime, he's just covering up his name to stop all these complaints and lawsuits that keep coming in for no reason whatsoever... /s
@@johnfellowes1070 Don’t apply one’s actions to an entire group. Wether it be good or bad. We have the technology that we don’t have to do that anymore.
They had the nerve to claim they were not threatening him just before this violence.
For them to cause head trauma to a blind man who wasn't resisting arrest is inexcusable.
You have been racking up new subs, keep it up man! 👍
"You can ask the officer, he'll tell you his name."
"What's your name?"
" ........🤨"
Smh my man is blind.
And then when he turned back and asked him to identify his cop buddy, he just says "you've been asked to leave" I feel like bacon right about now
Blind my dying ass. For such a blind guy, he can go wherever someone points, and I mean directly to the spot. I am blind, and my family members, who have seen these stupid videos of his have told me so. This guy is a big, ugly, black stain on the blind community as well as our millions of true veterans.
I'm glad he was recording. That monster of an "officer" has no idea how dangerous he was behaving.
You say that as if we did not just watch him talk quietly patiently without aggression, The guard had dealt with him multiple times and been through mikes gameplay, he did not want to be a guest on mikeys media Livestream
@@tomski263 the officer refused to identify himself and unlawfully tampered with his camera. The dude is blind and as he stated uses his camera as an assistive device, which is well within his legal rights, even if they have a no recording policy.
@@jclevey3806 what you think you have rights. HOw dare you. Government doesn't allow those. God does. and haven't you noticed we muzzled GOD. Turn them into DOGs. with mask on their face and they can only speak with it off if we deem they are worthy enough.
@@santosdr2 you sound like a lunatic
@@santosdr2 why bring religion into this????
but since that bag is open....... Jesus/god promised the end of wicked people. Odin promised the end of ice giants.
havent seen any ice giants lately
If they listened to him at any point they would have heard that he had a legitimate reason but they were so busy bullying him into submission that they refused all reason.
My doctors and I are still trying to come up with an effective explaination of my medical difficulties to use even in strictly medical situations. How the heck would I communicate in an situation like this?!
This is a pretty sad video....that one officer wouldn't even ID himself......I hope Blind Justice gets his justice.
They aren't cops, they're security contractors
The officer couldn't even dress himself properly.
@@youseff500 the one who failed to ID himself was a cop dude.
The guy who attacked him is private police, also he had met both the guy who attacked him and the guy asking him to leave at a court house and they were pleasant with him, sadly on that day not so much.
Fail to ID yourself I consider you to be impersonaiting an officer.
The fact he was unconscious for several hours before receiving medical attention wasn't even noteworthy?!? He could have died from a brain hemorrhage.
@jack lawrence you waiting on someone to ask you why or...?
@@Malepical Look up a RUclipsr named "Blind Justice". He goes around to gov't places and pisses them off and records it. He instigates these incidents. He wasn't even there for anything other than to piss them off and get clicks.
@@SealofPerfection 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ it's a living I guess?
@@Malepical Must be. We're talking about him and he's getting views, I guess.
@@SealofPerfection Damimit. I really wanted to be on his side about this.
“Don’t you see me?”
“No.”
🤣
This video was very informative please upload more HIPAA law content. Very interesting and educational officer interaction. Thank you!
After he said "my law" I expected him to answer the follow-up with "I am the law!" 😂
HAHAHA
Once he said “My Law” I knew he was dangerous
It amazes me how so many people can’t handle positions of authority. I have had so many problems with people with a little power. I love that you guys are educating the public about rights that are clearly thought in schools. We are a society of police callers and the police for the most part are all on power trips,how ever I have began to see a change in behavior of more police 👮♀️ officers and I never thought I would in my lifetime.
A few vids got me captivated on it you have my subscription
"Sir, there is no recording here due to HIPPA Laws."
"It's an assistive device. I'm blind."
"Ok. Let's sit down and review what we both need to do here."
Problem solved.
I was thinking the same thing. The administrator (skull karen) should have done that immediately. The fact she didn’t shows she is not competent to do her job
what we both need to do??? no... the Karen espousing hippa law, should have known instantly that the blind mans rights were protected by federal law.
“Ok, we will assist you. The ADA doesn’t mean you get to choose the assistance. Your device is placing other people’s rights at risk.”
@@Meatwad650 the only thing people are at risk of, is being held accountable for their crimes, which is the same reason everyone refused to identify themselves.
@@Meatwad650 but that is not true. no one has a reasonable right to privacy in a public building's lobby during normal business hours.
I went to the health department the day after this happened and protested on behalf of Blind Justice ...keep up the good work and always keep those cameras rollin'.
Thanks for your support, Jeff. It is greatly appreciated by us subscribers too far away to help in the way that you did/do.
Jeff, your a legend mate
I've seen your antics. Filming the citizens at that Clerk of Court window paying their tickets and fines. You're a stupid bastard that Blah-Blah-Blahs when you're told to do something "Whaaaaaa! Big Baby want take pitcher! Big Baby do what Big Baby want! Whaaaaaaaaa!" and the only thing that gets through to you is physical force...physical force which you bring upon yourself and is hilarious to watch.
Most of the time, I would doubt when people make claims like this. This isn't one of those times.
Troy Evitt fuck you bootlicker
"Escalating the interaction" is a cops superpower.
“We are not threatening you” immediately threaten him
Blind justice: *is blind*
Officer: "dont you see me?"
Manager: "its posted on the door"
Sigh
That’s why she told him in format he can understand. If you watched mikes videos you would be amazed how good he is at identifying law enforcement or security. Great at keeping them in frame
What kind of a shit-hole town is this anyway? The accents are concerning. That woman is bat-shit crazy and she’s accompanied by two intellectually challenged thugs. A pitiful demonstration.
@One Decent Machinist Legally blind means in all circumstances he’s blind.
@@kimwhitehead9096 No, it doesn’t; that’s completely false. Legal blindness is a classification to determine ADA rights, and the qualification is 20/200 vision or worse in _one_ eye.
@@bannedbyjeffandblindjustic2081 From voice alone you can ascertain someone's position and height since the sound comes out of where their head should be. It's not impossible, not even improbable, that he could keep them in frame when having a conversation.
Does this also mean that police officers with mandatory body cameras are not allowed in the building?
Hexxdump yeah, or what about security cameras?
Both of y’all make excellent points.
8balln8 killingu65, so you think that maybe the police and building security can’t record there also?
8balln8 killingu65, yeah I thinks that’s a good idea!
@8balln8 killingu65 "This is exactly how information gets stolen and sold on the black market" Information gets stolen and sold on the black market primarily through hacking large company databases. You don't think 100's of millions of people's personal information was recorded, then sifted through and typed into a computer, to then send to the black market, do you?
I love how she says there's no recording it's posted on the doors
thanks for subtitles wish all the videos had it
You know what's crazy to me that I've noticed in all these vídeos? Everybody freaks out over being recorded by a civilan auditor but fail to realize that they're recorded literally everywhere the cameras on the streets, buildings,stores,everywhere in all reality we live in an open air prison monitored 24/7 even our phones track our every movement .
It’s the actions of the people. Auditors create incidents, mike was asked to leave because they are sick of him coming in over and over asking same questions, he is going there to create a scene. He has no shame he even goes to children’s services and pulls these stunts .
But it's very different.
When people record them there's sound.
They can't twist the story or invent fact to justify themselves.
So they get annoyed
Not all the videos
Yeah, it scares the heck out of me. This has all happened so fast that I don't think anyone realizes what long-term issues might evolve from capturing peoples' existence and habits every second of the day. Cell phones are the worst, then (ahem) companies that store video and satellite footage of every known location on the planet, [gmail, hotmail, yahoo] email systems that log every keystroke you input into your email, smartphones that know who, what, and when you do things.... and I haven't even gotten into any non-civilian monitoring systems by Homeland Security, etc.
It's hard to bully a stationary camera...
Although it's probably been tried
Officer: sir I’m going to need you to step out of the wheel chair.
Disabled veteran: Sir I can’t stand up.
Officer: I said stand up!
Officer: (gunshots) stop resisting!
lmao
Sounds about right
There is a vídeo of a didabled men siting in his car. He is approched by Police and asked to "step out of the veichele"
The didabled man explains that he does not have the hability to walk.
The officer then proceeds to drag the man out of the car and arrests him
This is satire by the way back the blue 😎
Lmfao so fuked
My mother is completely blind and now in a wheelchair . I take her out all the time , we never ask but people will stop what their doing to help us ( hold a door open , push our shopping cart while I push the wheelchair ect. ) . Acts of kindness from total strangers that really help mom & me out . Then you have uniformed guards and a administrator harassing a blind vet with a body camera thats for his own protection . This is disgusting . Let anyone of them walk 20' in that mans shoes & see how it is to be blind . That pile of dung with the skulls on her shirt should be fired & send the uniforms packing to !!!
It would be nice to see an update to this case, please........ In my opinion as law enforcement for 21 years. The security officers and building management that were involved in this committed serious criminal offenses and should have been charged and every one of them fired... I can only hope that he was able to get proper representation and Sue the s*** out of these people!!!
I strongly disagree, and the video evidence speaks for itself.
This guy literally has no idea who these people are. He might as well have been kidnapped by a street gang.
He can't see the badge, and no one identified themselves as police officers throughout the entire encounter. All he knows is that he was kidnapped, beat to the ground, and sent to the hospital by a group of THUGS.
If somebody tells me to leave a building, maybe it's just their problem. If I know it's a police officer, I'll know I'm not welcome and leave. This guy literally had no idea these guys were officers AT ALL since it wasn't mentioned once for the entire video, and he never felt their uniform, until he was beaten to the ground with handcuffs. This is horrific.
It's not only horrific, it's a crime... please file the complaint!!! Now!
They didn't identify themselves as police officers, so no.
When he asked who the guy he was talking to was he just said "you know who I am". Which is not specific at all.
You can also imagine someone telling you "get out of the building or you'll be arrested" without the person actually being a police officer. For example, it could be a citizen, who then calls the police later trying to make due on their threat.
@Jason Delp Well initially he was having a consensual conversation, and asking somebody for their name in a consensual conversation is common place. He then asked the officer ""who are you again" when he started getting into an argument and the guy said "you know who I am" and he responded "no I really don't". Any normal person would then identify themselves as an officer at that point, but he kept his cards to his chest. Later, the officer kept moving the mans camera away, which was absolutely uncalled for and rude. He hadn't even communicated about the issue of him recording in a public building yet, he just started man handling the camera, which was used as an assistive device.
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It's not a technicality, it's what happened.
Also, it's a public building, and trespassing laws are different in public facilities, especially if you have business there. If he didn't have business there, maybe the lady would have authority to kick him out, but getting forcefully removed from a building randomly by a swarm of people that you just realized weren't civilians the second their body is on top of you is NOT how that was suppose to go down, and threats from civilians are not the same as threats from police officers.
He was also trying to get into contact with the ADA coordinator and was trying to communicate that the reason he has the recording equipment he has is because of his disability.
@Jason Delp I think I see the confusion, you should have seen the full recording. Maybe it's in the way they cut the original video that you are getting confused?
it makes the pacing and escalation of the issue seem more fluid. In truth, the tackling was very abrupt and the conversational nature of the cops made it seem like he was talking to just an average joe, until it all came crashing down on him.
In fact, this was cut to show the important sound bites of a 30 minute interaction. Him and the first cop were just having a chat. Unless you could see his uniform the interaction and conversation with the first officer made it feel like he is just talking with another guy in the waiting room.
@Jason Delp the name was not necessary, depending on the state, but when he asked who he worked for, he absolutely needed to identify that he was a police officer in order to give commands that have the same legal authority as those claims made by an officer.
I'm so tired of people saying they're violating the "HIPAA law". All while stomping all over his rights & also violating the disability act. I hope he has a speedy recovery.
I hope he wins a hefty$ settlement!
HIPAA is abused as a shield to repress individuals instead of its proper purposes.
I would argue that a person with sight problems should absolutely be able to record events as they are at a significant disadvantage with the ability to identify people or events that have occurred to them should something go very wrong.
Everyone trying to explain to the blind guy that signs are posted.
I swear they are all flat earthers.
My smart-ass reply to the lady that said "there is no recording allowed its posted all over the windows" would have been "i didn't know that since I'm blind"
She knows he's blind she's simply pointing out verbally to him that it is a rule in their facility
OK, so he didn't know when he came in because he is blind, but then they told him and the reason why, and he still refused to comply. How does this get an A-? I call BS on that part of the analysis. The first officer, absolutely gets an F. He should have identified himself, and he was totally taking advantage of the situation.
Nathan Tenney his recording device is an assistive device used to maintain his quality of life. And he agreed to leave if the officer who violated his rights would just give his name.
@@NathanTenney ofc he knew, he went in there with intent to provoke an reaction. he is a youtuber and like youtubers he is looking for content, sure everyone in the clip should have handled it better but the guy knew exactly what he was doing
@@Hoplasa I think this is possibly true. He may have been instigating. However, that does not make him wrong. He may have instigated because he encountered the situation before, and wanted to reveal it to us.
This security guard should be arrested for felony assault. But I’m sure the lies started immediately. I’m a disabled veteran and if I had been there I would still be in jail but I would have a SMILE on my face.
Thank you for your service.
LOL. I hear ya.
no you wouldn't have. you would have gotten out of harms way as soon as possible. if you were the super hero of veterans you want us to believe i don't think you would be here right now posting on this video.
Then you should be angry because this guys claims are very much disputed, seriously who wants to hassle a blind guy ? is there more to this guy
@@psilocybemusashi go f u c k yourself tiny sqwaking turdbird
"We dont use film anymore" such a hilarious line. Small but cracked me up
Give somebody a gun and a badge and it goes to their head. Happens on all levels.
This lawsuit should be BIBLICAL in its scope. I want this man to bankrupt the county with the money he gets.
Exactly! Fire all these garbage humans.
The facility, security firm playing police, and police department operating the jail, all of them!
except it isn't the counties money. it's the blind mans money. and all the other blind men. in the county. and everyone else who pays taxes. the only people really being punished are the people.
Amen brotherman
I don't think the local tax payers deserve to have their money given away because of the actions of some bad cops though. Just fire the bad cops and make them pay the damages they caused.
The last thing I want to see entering a health facility is an administrator wearing skulls...
... those who hate God LOVE DEATH Proverbs 8:36
@@inTruthbyGrace you still believe in a god?
That’s so precious.
The Nasty yawn
The Nasty oh yes. And you have a right to hate God , which is a criminal offense, and face his judgment. It will be a lot worse than a brain bleed.
@@pattysherwood7091 I don’t hate god, just like I don’t hate the boogeyman...
It’s hard to hate or love something that doesn’t exist.
Under HIPAA, the FACILITY is responsible for making sure private stuff is not discussed on public areas of a facility.
The woman was telling the veteran that there's a sign telling him it's illegal to record inside the building
*HELLO! HE'S BLIND! HE CAN'T READ THE SIGN!*
Blind homeless veteran - “hey officers, I’m here to try to see if I can get some help.”
Police department - “no get out of here and leave now.”
More like "Yeah? You're gonna need even more help after we're done with you."
Dude had a fucking brain hemorrhage. Not exactly the same, but there's something I believe called "eggshell skull" which basically means, if someone has some kind of condition that, for example, makes their bones very brittle and easy to break, and you accidentally cause a ton of excessive harm to them unexpectedly, because the person just assumes everyone is the same and can take some degree of roughness or whatever, but that shit isn't always the case. But back to eggshell skull, the offender remains completely responsible for any injuries caused, regardless of if it was unexpected or however easily it happened.
Another example I've heard of is someone having a weak heart, and being roughed up, or even merely scared/startled, that person is fully responsible for the other having a heart attack or even dying, or whatever is the case. I don't feel like enough people know this, and REALLY, REALLY should.
Dossnr apply/fit 100% here, but just reminded me of it. People need to be careful, never know how fragile someone may be.
@@shawnsmith3959 I don’t think you’re on the same page
@@wraith4 he had said "doesnt apply/fit 100% here but just reminded me of it"
He aint seeing much. 😂
He wasnt there for "help" he knew damn well that there was no recording in there and went in using his being blind and needing the phone as an excuse. Got what he deserved.
They got probably 5 cameras in the ceiling watching and they worried about 1.
Being an NC resident, I'm ashamed of them.
Those 5 cameras are not recording sensitive information for public use. You pathetic loser!
those cameras are for security reasons and aren't available to the public. random people walking into the building have unsecured footage that will be likely posted to RUclips. there is a difference
Those cameras, most likely won't have audio. Also that area of Greensboro, NC has tons of cameras but again most likely no audio, just there for security.
@@davidclark2932 That was rude! Don't you realize that it's the responsibility of the healthcare provider to keep sensitive documents secure. They have to place anything, usually a computer screen, out of the visual field of the public. If they do their job, there won't be any issue. BTW... didn't your mother teach you not to call people names... it's very impolite.
@@benhower6394 This was in High Point, not Greensboro.
I’m curious if there has been any updates?
a public lobby is NOT a location where anyone would reasonably expect privacy.
So much for "Thank you for your service". More like "Here's another injury to add to the rest".
Evidently a blind veteran, I will assume combat veteran, gets little help in this shit hole. This is disgusting.
Is this how we treat disabled people in this day and age? Disgusting and a ex vet too,for shame on you people
As a disabled person I can tell you yes. People generally couldn't care less about a person's struggles. Some do care but they're few and far between.
@XxAwkward RavenpuffxX - I’ll endorse that.
mark lavender wait what’s an ex vet ?
I mean disabled people did just get recognized as people legally just 50-something years ago.
@@shedshow1439 I was wondering that myself!
Thank you for supporting Mr Nelson
That woman did not deserve an F.
The guy needs a mini camera on his glasses, hat, or something. So he can avoid these situations and still have his video of everything.
I agree
Have a recording device to record your recording device. Lol
@@FergusScotchman get another one to record that one too!
@@redzeppelin6 Well, obviously! Lol
There are glasses on the market that will record and I'm sure that he can put shaded lenses in to keep his eyes covered. They cost at $50 on amazon.
Sue them till they understand the law. Only answer
In Australia they'd understand quick, if you want to find out how wrong you are just fuck with a veteran and quickly get results
Sue them and the money will be out citizens pocket that is the problem .
@@valerimichael6789True,but there is no other action to make a actual change. Perhaps they'll educate future hires and current on the proper way to do things.
Possibility true they'll get their arses reamed, but suing won't actually cost the individuals money but rather the counties insurance pays if there is any punitive damages awarded.
The officers need to be held individually accountable for his damages here, not the city where they'll just get a slap on the wrist and continue their business.
Robertson should be fired immediately for abuse of power from saying that a citizen was violating "his law", as well as attempting to turn the camera around hoping that blind justice wouldn't notice (thereby taking advantage of a disabled individual's handicap), as well as refusal to identify. That's 3 strikes in just one encounter. Who knows how many other times he's abused his authority if he will do it when he thinks he can take advantage of a disabled person.
Blind justice has had interactions with the captain before, and as I understood it, it went positive. Here however, captain daugherty and the other officer both should be put on unpaid leave at the very least. They assaulted a blind man by pushing him to the ground in order to arrest him. The human body has only 3 ways of comprehending distance - sound (which wouldn't be applicable here), vision, and touch. With blind justices vision being impaired, he would only be able to rely on touch to tell the distance to the ground as the officers forced him down, and even then that is unreliable as the head will still continue its motion even if he were able to successfully find the ground with his hand in time to lessen the impact (an event that is unlikely considering the officers were attempting to control him to the ground). This was absolute negligence at the very least on the officers part. At the BARE minimum they should be forced onto unpaid leave while they are trained on proper interactions with the disabled.
That officer needs to be sued Into the ground until HE can’t see anymore.
Brain bleed? Discharge after a brief ER stay ? I call horse cha-cha
I would have cut the blind guy some slack. He can't see what's going on and needs help, not an attitude.
He could have been escorted to a private room where he could record as much as he needed and still received health services.
well we happen to be normal human beings not on powertrips that require crushing any thought, idea, or action that falls outside of what we take as normal.
Covering his badge, I'ld call that an admission of guilt!
You see my costume and dentures. I'm da law.
LoL I love how he said " please don't touch my things" I can't tell what it says because I can't read either
Damn. I had a brain bleed after a wreck. That isn't anything to mess around with. Doctors were more concerned with that than anything. I'm glad he's ok but that officer should be charged in this case for sure.
I really hope a lawyer steps up and destroys the careers of the individuals involved. How disgusting.
How is the case going now?
why? becouse the blind man wanted to dominate the situation using his disability? hes willing to get hurt and thrown in jail rather then got what he went for there. and he knew he is violating other people`s privacy.
@@zendraw3468 No he was not... The place is empty, as well as PUBLIC.
PRO BONO
@@elonmust7470 there’s ppl walking around, what are you even saying.
That lady with the skulls on her clothes is the definition of a Karen 😂
Proverbs 8:36 all that hate me to love death
@@brianvincavage9273 having skulls on your clothing does not mean you love death lol. I'm a Devout Christian yet I love Metal, and horror/slasher films.. and mature video games.. just because I watch a movie where a dude in a hockey mask chops up teenager's doesn't mean I love death and hate God roflol
@@IanTheGreatYT oh absolutely agree..but in alot of cases..the truth
Wearing a dress with skulls in a professional setting is inappropriate.
What is the male version of "Karen"? Because that's what the the cops/security officers are.
I’m glad this channel exists and thanks to its informatism I wonder how much bad policing has happened
We sure do need security and police - however we need auditors such as this to reign in out of control tyrant officers - expose them and either retrain or terminate them.
I'm blind, and I can spot Blind Justice's arrogance throughout all of his stupid videos. If you think I'm going to go along with this crazy belief of all the leftists that all cops are bad, you're dead wrong. BACK THE BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"don't you see me"
"no"
😂😂
The burden of “sensitive information” that could be video recorded falls on the office, organization, staff that has the responsibility of keeping the info from being able to be recorded.
They can’t leave someone’s info on a counter out in the open to be viewed or it is them that should be penalized or prosecuted , not the person with the camera walking in a public access area.
I was a NC DMV dealer and we were trained that it is a $10k fine if a persons personal info is left in a manner that it can be viewed by another customer.
I couldn’t threaten the customer with video recording where there was “sensitive info”..... it’s ridiculous and it’s more of the same, laws only apply to the citizens.......... I’d sue and I’d win!!!
While it is true it's the burden of the office to protect it this story is unique in the sense that even if BlindJustice were sitting directly in front of the computer screen recording every sensitive piece of information... how is it going to do him any amount of good when he gets back to his "criminal lair" as they are trying to imply. He still can't see it.
Stephen Swift His devices have the ability to read words and then speak them. The name badge was too small and the camera didn’t pick it up.
@@MrAudienceMember2662015 I didn't actually know that, that's cool what tech can do and certainly puts them in the class of assistive devices no question. To say the least he has a bit of money coming from multiple suits from this alone
Stephen Swift I’m fascinated by the tech as well.
I don't believe for one flipping second that those folks were actually worried about anyone's privacy.
They were worried, and very much so, that someone didn't comply to their demands. Most people should NEVER be allowed to have any power.
Hey! I'm procrastinating my studies in cyber security right now and I can watch your channel without remorse since you talk about HIPAA and that is covered by my textbook!
Loved the Office screenshot
I find it appalling that they would treat a blind veteran this way. Instead of helping him they gave him a brain injury... good job people way to help the public. I've worked in hospitals HIPAA laws apply to people who work in the medical field. the onus is on them not the public.
Cops are pieces of shit
all the boost I think both were wrong. I also agree too much force was used. They should of arrested him without the harm.
@@harryleist8250 they shouldn't have arrested him at all
xixraymondxix yes they should. He was told to leave. He did not. Makes him a trespasser. If he felt they were wrong. That’s what courts are for.
@@harryleist8250 their policy is up for the courts to argue but the douchebag cop escalated the situation for no reason at all and had no right to arrest him
Recording devices are permitted in the common or public areas of medical facilities. HIPAA prohibits recording devices in the exam rooms/treatment rooms/bathrooms/changing rooms, where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. There is no expectation of privacy in a hallway or foyer (which is where this encounter transpired.)
Not to mention that he was also using it as an aid, with his wife telling him what's going on in the recording.
It arguably goes beyond just the privacy argument.
I'm curious to know where this policy standard is written? I genuinely would like to know where to look it up.
Excellent video
My PTSD was just triggered at 9:28 when Charles Miner had Michael Scott escorted out of Dunder Mifflin. Glad the Michael Scott Paper Company ultimately won in the end.
"Not violence" Wakes up from a 5 hour coma.
I'm sure his wife was calling authorities of every jurisdiction between their home and this health department looking for him
Hope someone picked up his case. He might walk away with over 1million in damages and discrimination
I wish.
Just 1 mil? I will take from them everything they have and leave them homeless without nothing, every single one of them
I doubt they would even give him 200k ...
Take their homes then burn them to the ground then piss on the ashes!!!
@@any4003 if it's a trial by jury then it's not up to them how much he would get. His case would be pretty easy to win if the charges were done right.
That is a true monster and the officer by law has to identify himself. I've been upset over some behavior but kept saying when the gentlemen would ask his badge number no well you can't see. This was actually a disgrace to make his disability used against him.