RAM 2500 Cummins Diesel | Are Aftertreatment DEF Systems Ruining Diesel Engines ?

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @drostly3220
    @drostly3220 2 года назад +8

    A relatively small hydrogen kit cleans up the air, obtains full combustion and cleans the eternals.. The EPA is just as bad as the FDA.. They do what makes more money for their stake holders (captured).. Good channel with good info.. Thanks

  • @jimm2442
    @jimm2442 2 года назад +7

    Thank you for being accurate in your explanation of diesel emissions components.

  • @jonathonbridges9625
    @jonathonbridges9625 2 года назад +26

    The entire emissions system on diesels are designed to destroy the motor overtime.

  • @denvernn
    @denvernn 2 года назад +3

    Great video. I miss the heavy truck industry. I was a parts guy.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      mehh, I mean with inflation over the last couple years and the price of living going through the roof. the wages they are still paying is pretty low. this industry used to be know for good high paying wages but that's not the case anymore. in my humble opinion anyways lol

  • @stevenpeterson7234
    @stevenpeterson7234 2 года назад +2

    Once you delete your diesel power, torque and mpg goes up. If you delete a new 2021 Ram 2500 cummins, mpg can go up to 30 mpg on the hwy!! If you put a tune, free spinning hubs and off road fuel in your Cummins you can hit 36 mpg on the hwy!! Awesome video man!! 👍👊

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      That's wild actually.

    • @toddtrcka7960
      @toddtrcka7960 2 месяца назад

      Do you mean lockout hubs in the front like the first gen dodges had?
      I watched the whole thing on the RAM Man he promotes the lockout hubs Kits so you have free spinning in the front.
      When you don't need four-wheel drive.
      It's a expensive kit up front it will pay for itself in time plus your front end parts will not wear out.

  • @detroitgarage9430
    @detroitgarage9430 2 года назад +3

    Great video, I guess it’s a trade off between clean emissions and cost. I run a deleted 2009 F350 with a Detroit 4-53T and love it. The 6.4 fell out and I never looked back.:)

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +3

      that's quite the rig! and ya those 6.4's were okay at best

  • @shainester
    @shainester 2 года назад +4

    I just found your channel and I think it’s awesome! Very informative. I have an ‘06 4x4 quad cab 2500 with a Cummins 24v 5.9 with 60k miles in practically mint condition. It’s worth more today than when I bought it. Was thinking about buying a new one for more power, but all this emissions equipment and issues, even in a Cummins has me thinking I need to just keep what I have.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +3

      KEEP YOUR TRUCK. 60k miles on a non emission diesel truck is pretty much gold my friend.

    • @robertblackburn4990
      @robertblackburn4990 2 года назад +1

      Keep your old vehicle,new diesels are not worth it with all the def mess

    • @shainester
      @shainester 2 года назад +1

      Thank you. I'm running it completely stock, which has been fine, but now need more power with a 39' travel trailer. Maybe I need to look into getting it tuned.

    • @petepeterson5337
      @petepeterson5337 Год назад

      @@shainester I recommend NOT turning up the horsepower on that truck, especially for towing. When pulling a heavy load up a long grade, we don't want the engine doing maximum horsepower and torque for a long time; we want to be in a lower gear spinning the engine up a bit and loading it modestly and trudging up the hill in the right lane in the engine's continuous operating region.
      I have a 2002 5.9 manual transmission where the engine is rated for 245HP. More horsepower would be fun, but sitting at 245HP where the engine really can't hurt its self is its own kind of luxury. I am not a slow easy driver, and that rig gives 17 to 22 MPG as long as I stay at or below the top of cruise-control (~87). Not telling where I did it or what state, but sitting at 105+mph steady with overall increase in altitude for a couple of hours lowered economy to the 11 to 13MPG range though it covered a lot of ground.

  • @cowthedestroyer
    @cowthedestroyer 2 года назад +2

    Its almost as egr is failing at what its try to do lowering carbon emissions but when you factor in making def transporting it the entire emissions system higher fuel consumption the shop time and recourses it doesn't reduce emissions on a larger scale and lowers efficiency across the board.

  • @trusted_traveler
    @trusted_traveler 2 года назад

    I'm happy that my 2003 Freightliner FS65 is pre def system. MBE 906 without egr with 197,000 miles.

  • @jordanhartl5547
    @jordanhartl5547 2 года назад +4

    Diesels are going to be around for a lot longer than what people think. It’s in everyone’s best interests to get these emission systems sorted.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      you are not wrong. the only thing I would say is if there was a big leap in battery technology and solar technology diesels would probably be done. electric motor have way more torque then a diesel, but until they can successfully make it work diesel will be there. could be 5 years could 30 who knows

    • @jimm2442
      @jimm2442 2 года назад +1

      @@TheGettyAdventures We live in an interesting, exciting time and are getting to witness some awesome technology unfold. I am a retired mechanic and have seen carburetors, points, "smog pumps" turn into what we have today. I like the technology, true high performance is back. I had all but given up in the mid 1980's. If you told me in 1980 that we would have an 8300 pound diesel truck that got 20mpg, had virtually zero tailpipe emissions, and produced 445hp and 910 ft lbs of torque (my 2021 Chevy 3500HD) I would not have believed it.

    • @wizard_of_poz4413
      @wizard_of_poz4413 Год назад

      @@jimm2442 I managed 26 with my cummins

  • @dieselmutt8865
    @dieselmutt8865 Год назад

    2010 is when scr was first put into use in certain applications. I point this out only to help anyone considering purchasing units so they know what they are comparing.

  • @ericcraver4908
    @ericcraver4908 2 года назад +2

    I had two censors go bad. It was cheaper to buy delete kit and tuner than to replace the censors. If they want us to keep these systems on diesel engines, the warranty needs to be increased to at least 200k miles. Also need to figure out how to keep these trucks out the shop. Until then, every diesel I get will have delete kits on them.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      They try to do this by imposing massive fines but in reality most trucks never get searched because only a select few officers even know what they are looking for

  • @brenteason9891
    @brenteason9891 2 года назад +14

    Great video. I had to save my 2018 6.7L Cummins and remove some emissions items. Would feel different about it if the emissions items were not so destructive to these engines. Huge difference in the performance and efficiency, plus my truck doesn't roll coal with the installed tunes.

    • @ajbilleck9805
      @ajbilleck9805 2 года назад

      What system did you run for the delete?

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +2

      exactly the engines run soo much better without the emission. It is nice to have a clean diesel but when you own one it hurts the wallet way too much

    • @brenteason9891
      @brenteason9891 2 года назад

      @@TheGettyAdventures Speaking of emission systems, hopefully, you keep the 6.0L and 6.4L powerstrokes to a minimum in your shop.

    • @brenteason9891
      @brenteason9891 2 года назад

      @@ajbilleck9805 I have a 4" Flow pro exhaust system with a resonator (Don't like drone and too old for something crazy loud) and an EZLynk tuner. Can check it out here: ruclips.net/video/cxPTXqimMWI/видео.html

    • @ajbilleck9805
      @ajbilleck9805 2 года назад +1

      @@brenteason9891 awesome thanks. I want same set up! I tow and don’t want drone as well. I’ll check it out

  • @KALI1080
    @KALI1080 2 года назад

    I used to work on CNHi skid steers. The 75hp engine I love in those skid steers because the aftertreatment system is as simple as it can get. There is cooled EGR and a diesel oxidation catalyst. The only sensors in the exhaust are in the EGR valve and one temperature sensor for the catalyst. They have been much more reliable than the 90hp engines that require SCR. The ones that have SCR have all those complicated electrically heated hoses and they seem to crack catalyst substrates often if the operator just idles the engine all the time. You have got to work the machine hard and keep the exhaust temperatures high for them to work well.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      bingo, SCR's are a pain in the ass and you can't let them idle or you'll have tons of issues. they need to be hot at all times to work well.

  • @theoneandonly2590
    @theoneandonly2590 2 года назад +7

    But let’s fill the tanks with the DEF that comes in a plastic bottle and cardboard & let that all go sit in landfills. The things is the smoke coming out is lot worse than all the plastic and cardboard being placed in the ground. Also, the “environmental saving systems” are screwing the engines, causing worse fuel mileage, causing the consumer thousands more at the pumps & God forbid your system craps out after warranty because there in 5-10k in repairs. Delete them, put a clean tune on it and your truck will be a truck again and not a government money maker!

  • @zues2013
    @zues2013 2 года назад

    Great overview for those who are new to the diesel world 👍🏾🤙🏾
    Wish I had this vid before I started at my fleet shop a few years ago

  • @a.r.o7697
    @a.r.o7697 2 года назад +1

    I'd say it was that plug grounding out due to the apparent moisture that got in. The software shut it down due to the signal loss from that sensor with the messed up plug.

  • @rp1645
    @rp1645 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for video. You speak so well about this after treatment. I have always bought GAS PU. That would be nice if what CUMMINS says is true. They seem ahead of the curve.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      thank you! who knows if what Cummins says is true, they are also working hard on some electric stuff as well so you never know the direction they are going to head. seems like we are almost at a crossroad for transportation. not there yet but soon!

    • @rp1645
      @rp1645 2 года назад

      @@TheGettyAdventures
      Cummins is working with the Marine FEER/ Passage industry. Making the power plant for a HYDROGEN powered FEER boat. They just launched in Puget sound WA. For San Francisco Passager Ferry route. Just FYI.

  • @Scottstunts
    @Scottstunts 2 года назад +3

    As a dispatcher and fleet manager. My job got exponentially more difficult when DPF and DEF came into play. Let’s just say I hate all these new trucks.

  • @floydoharejr4477
    @floydoharejr4477 2 года назад

    Thanks for another great video. Search Achates/Cummins opposed piston engine. They look like a game changer.

  • @DanBCooper
    @DanBCooper 2 года назад +2

    ***Soot doesn't " burn and turn into ashe" **** Ashe is a byproduct of vaporized engine oil, and cannot pass through the DPF, and is ultimately what will cause the DPF to need to be replaced. Soot / PM can be burned out in a regen and pass through the ceramic core of the DPF.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      very interesting! did not know that was the case! thank you

    • @dieselmutt8865
      @dieselmutt8865 Год назад

      Yes, ash ruins a DPF. That is why when the DPF's first came onto the scene, oil manufacturers had to scramble ahead of time to come out with a new low ash oil specification for this generation of engines.

  • @dieselmutt8865
    @dieselmutt8865 Год назад

    It would be interesting to see how a small diesel engine design in a diesel locomotive concept would do for efficiency. Think about the weight a single locomotive is capable of pulling vs a typical semi truck.

  • @FireBosspilot
    @FireBosspilot 2 года назад

    Very well said, a single treatment system would be a huge relief, right now, if they didn’t have the dreaded EGR alone, it would be acceptable.

    • @wizard_of_poz4413
      @wizard_of_poz4413 Год назад

      A lot of farm equipment is SCR only for what it's worth

  • @MDC8
    @MDC8 2 года назад +3

    My DEF froze solid over the holidays cause I wasn't around to let it idle in -40c. It ended up taking out the DEF pump, but all under warranty. Soon as warranty is done it's all getting deleted. Apparently its illegal in Canada, but even the dealers will do it (in AB).

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      lol Alberta does seem to be pretty relaxed with emissions, even BC. When I was living in BC there were a lot of trucks deleted. As a diesel mechanic I can tell easily when a truck is deleted just by the sound and smell lol but ya keep that warranty no need to ruin that

    • @jimm2442
      @jimm2442 2 года назад +1

      I cannot even wrap my head around -40 degrees lol. I thought this mornings temp of 29F here in the Sierra Foothills was cold. Deleting is not an option where we live so hopefully the DEF system will continue to work.

    • @Fitter4life
      @Fitter4life 2 года назад

      I deleted my 16 at 5000km never looked back runs like a dream

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      @@Fitter4life I can believe that!

    • @jeffsmith8066
      @jeffsmith8066 2 года назад

      Def is made to freeze solid. All def systems have thaw strategies in the software that don't prime the def pump until the def is a certain temp. The newer UL2 style Cummins is using even keeps the lines primed and everything is made to freeze. More than likely something else was wrong with the pump

  • @theworldaccordingtochris4370
    @theworldaccordingtochris4370 2 года назад +1

    A friend of mine who works at a Volvo truck dealership said they had huge problems with DEF crystalizing in the exhaust box of trucks in winter.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      they are not the only ones. things are getting better but in the manufactures defense they are being told to engineer these system quickly to make upcoming EPA regulations and sometimes things get missed and there are major issues.

  • @tyrrellroach5872
    @tyrrellroach5872 2 года назад +4

    Sounds like to me the after treatment to to treat the after treatment. Maybe there should be a focus on getting the engines to run efficiently and cooler. Eliminating the after treatment mess

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      pretty much. I mean it does work well (when not broken) to clean the exhaust but there is need for a more efficient system

    • @michaelbenoit248
      @michaelbenoit248 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, diesels nowadays can run rly pretty darn clean if u don’t dump a hot tune on em. I’ve seen some pretty darn clean burning deleted diesels come though the shop. As a guy that sometimes has to fk w the dsls I’d take a deleted dsl over a stock just cuz the DEF is nasty corrosive shit that’ll crystallize, & make a mess everywhere!
      Deleted dsl means no DEF mess, no DPF clogging, ur burning less fuel, & the engine is lasting longer cuz of less heat, & EGTs!
      U want to be rly green for the environment… keep that truck on the road w the stock engine from the factory w a DPF delete for less issues, less fuel burned, & it’ll last 4x as long than w the stock DPF.

    • @victorbernier4765
      @victorbernier4765 Год назад

      Biodiesel is the best way to reduce emissions without the after treatment

  • @candisully8209
    @candisully8209 2 года назад

    LOVE your channel,LOVE our Canadian BROTHERS and SISTERS up north..SUSCRIBED!!

  • @ReidMYT
    @ReidMYT 2 года назад +1

    I’m waiting patiently to get my 6.7 deleted. Gonna get it re-registered in TN first

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      Lol excellent idea, we just had a transportation officer come through our shop and he was saying that he can now pull plates for pick up trucks not having mufflers, even though a muffler has nothing to do with emission. Crazy

    • @ReidMYT
      @ReidMYT 2 года назад

      @@TheGettyAdventures California doesn’t let you touch anything on your truck… it’s BS

  • @akosibrian8417
    @akosibrian8417 Год назад

    Alex thanks for the information. I am planning to buy a diesel and I am wondering if I should delete it or keep the after treatment on and just do some little mods? I am from Canada and I believe our restriction is a bit better from other place. I am not fan of rolling coal anyway just want my engine to performed better. looking forward to hear what your going to say.

  • @jamierpm
    @jamierpm Год назад

    There wasn’t an egr valve on a Cummins in 2003 and no 6.7. I’m going by my experience in the Dodge Ram Cummins. Maybe heavy duty is different

  • @dennismills4862
    @dennismills4862 Год назад

    I'm a new fan of your videos, Alex, and have a question about gas engines that have about +/- 500 ft lbs of torque.
    My wife and I are running on reserve energy as we grow older. Thus we traded in our massive 5th wheel RV for a light weight Grand Design that has an empty weight of about 7,500 lbs, and a max weight of just under 10,000 pounds.
    When we bought our first 5th wheel RV we also bought a 2019 F-250 equipped with a diesel engine. While we owned the 18K+ trailer we've never see an up hill grade we could not conquer.
    Now for my question:
    I've driven a few RAM 2500 models with the hemi engine and found them to be much more comfortable to drive than our long bed RWD Ford.
    What would you suggest ... keep our over powered Ford or trade it in for a 2500 model with a powerful V8 gas engine?
    Wife wants a short bed and I want a long bed to avoid buying a costly 5th wheel hitch that can keep our ability to make 90 degree turns without banging into our cab.
    An important fact ... we routinely drove over the continental divide, and pulled our big trailer up and down two lane mountain roads. While on the road, we always dump all fluids from our holding tanks, and thus would be looking for a truck that can handle about 7,500 dry weight, regardless of the grade.
    Thank you in advance Alex.

  • @doug2202
    @doug2202 2 года назад

    Great video. I’m in the market for a new truck and will need to tow a 12k load 1500 miles a couple times per year and locally a few more times per year.
    Other then that it will be my daily driver.
    Do you recommend a diesel or gasser.

  • @brandenlane344
    @brandenlane344 2 года назад

    Had a diesel with 65k miles blow up due to the emission systems. Love diesel, but not going to run one with the EGR etc again. Not until they improve it SIGNIFICANTLY.

  • @Jc-bo1uu
    @Jc-bo1uu 2 года назад

    Now they don’t use electric heating elements. They use the engine coolant to keep the DEF from freezing. And now with engine programming it will not through a check engine light for deaf when it’s frozen until roughly 15 minutes after the engine reaches operating temperature. After the engine has reached operating temperature in the SCR output is not within the parameters then it will throw a check engine light.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      so I was referring to the actual def lines. yes the def header and def doser has coolant going to it. you seem knowledgeable and I'm sure you have seen those blue def lines. those are all heated by and electrical element. that's why each def line has an electrical connector attached to it. well at least every single Cummins, Detroit diesels and Paccar has that set up. those line often get rubbed through and the electrical heater elements breaks and loses continuity and that throws a check engine light every single time. something like "DEF heater line 4, voltage erratic and below threshold"

    • @Jc-bo1uu
      @Jc-bo1uu 2 года назад

      @@TheGettyAdventures yes, I apologize. I took it as all the heating components were electrical. And what we do on every repair with those hoses we use wire loom. It doesn’t completely stop anything from happening but it helps tremendously.

  • @andrewe8799
    @andrewe8799 2 года назад +1

    My 21 6.7 cummins 20000km i already had to get a line heater repaired that the wire corroded and my def tank froze up and gave all kinds of false readings for the gauge and giving a engine light, (up in Canada the nights are as cold as -40) i had to pay out of pocket to get def tank thawed out and the crystals cleaned out of the tank because dodge (fca) said that it is not warrentied due to being exposed to the environment bc it froze.. f the warrenty its all coming off.

  • @PedroJSaro
    @PedroJSaro 2 года назад +1

    I have a question is possible delete the EGR and leave the rest of the emissions system working, I have understand with the emissions system the engine is less efficient, but not really damage the engine what really kills the engine is the EGR throwing part of exhaust gases back into the engine

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      You could do it. I'm sure there are kits. you would need the correct tune because these systems are all integrated and they feed off each other. but it is all software so I don't see why not!

  • @ogxs1433
    @ogxs1433 2 года назад +3

    I think the value of my 20+ year old non emissions deisel is rising exponentially....

  • @crazyburkey3677
    @crazyburkey3677 Год назад +1

    What I've been wondering is if a person could delete the DEF, then add an LPG since the propane is designed to burn cleaner, wouldn't that serve about the same effect as the DEF with emissions

    • @kyles234
      @kyles234 10 месяцев назад +1

      You can already do it with methyl-hydrate injection from snow performance. There is also kits for propane to run as a catalyst or for nitrous like power upgrades.

    • @crazyburkey3677
      @crazyburkey3677 10 месяцев назад +1

      @kyles234 that definitely would be better than the def, for the engine, and better for the environment, cause def is known to kill bees.
      I heard a few years ago they were going to get rid of def because of that, I suppose whoever is manufacturing it sent lobbyists and greased some palms. Since it's still being sold, and making diesel trucks smell like piss.

    • @kyles234
      @kyles234 10 месяцев назад

      @@crazyburkey3677 it is all part of the agenda to destroy the free world. I'm all for cleaner burning engines because they last longer but the way they went about it is ridiculous. Same kind of bs for shoving this ev crap up our asses

  • @Hitman-ds1ei
    @Hitman-ds1ei 2 года назад

    Well put !!

  • @Average1212
    @Average1212 2 года назад

    Depending on where you live you may not be able to delete your truck and still pass a commercial inspection (If you need one for what you are towing.)

  • @Firebird400
    @Firebird400 2 года назад

    I wouldn’t touch a new diesel with a stick. I’ll keep my deleted 2012 till it’s dead then I’ll probably rebuild it . Worst case scenario is I just have to deal with a dpf filter/ egr valve

  • @ratedr2443
    @ratedr2443 2 года назад

    I have a 2017 6.7 Cummins with only 45 K miles on it. I plan on doing a delete, change the exhaust and do a tune. Do I have to worry about any issues with the transmission?

  • @jeffreycrowther1374
    @jeffreycrowther1374 2 года назад

    Def and smog systems highly developed have never had any problems with aftertreatment in my ecosystem dodge or my class 8 truck if you run California and have anything modified you will be fined and most like engine builder and so on can get you for pattern violation. Engineers know more that the average shop wrench. I have had 6 class 8 trucks since smog crap started never a problem with engine pulling or codes coming up

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      tell the engineers we are tired of fixing their trucks then lol we should send them back to the smart engineers and let them fix their broken crap.
      I just call it how it is. a huge percentage of trucks we work on is strictly for aftertreatment.

  • @vinceschannel8927
    @vinceschannel8927 2 года назад +1

    I see you have blue birds in your shop. Have you ever had any come in with the clearance lights flickering on and off randomly?

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      yes, at the rear usually. there is a wire crimp behind the passenger side panel at the very rear. always seems to rot out.

  • @jean-louishamid5285
    @jean-louishamid5285 2 года назад +1

    Alex, why do you think Ram got the 6.4 Hemi so detuned when compared to the Grand Cherokee version (475 hp)? Even the torque is down, honestly that's a pity.

    • @KeithStarr
      @KeithStarr 2 года назад +1

      The truck engine is designed more for low-end torque and heavy load applications and not peak HP. The intake manifold has a top-feed mounted throttle body, this design has a runner length that’s designed to make max power from 3600-5000 RPM. The camshaft on the truck engines is also designed for low-speed torque and not higher RPM horsepower.
      The compression ratio is lowered to 10:1 because of a piston change from the passenger car 6.4 engines. The exhaust manifolds on the truck engines are a cast iron design that are more restrictive than the tubular style found on the passenger cars.
      With a truck that’s towing/hauling you want a flat torque curve that peaks as low in the RPM range as possible, hence why the Cummins is nice for towing with its peak torque at 1600 RPM.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      wow very well said sir! thank you for the awesome info!

  • @wizard_of_poz4413
    @wizard_of_poz4413 Год назад

    Tbh I've not noticed any efficiency gain from deleting

  • @brucerazor5202
    @brucerazor5202 2 года назад +4

    I’m sick of environmentalists

  • @FRUGALWITHJOHN
    @FRUGALWITHJOHN 2 года назад

    The EGR was to knock down the NOX gas, it worked but created too much soot, so they added the DPF, but created NOX gas again when it went through it's regeneration cycle. Next cam the DEF fluid to knock down the NOX coming from the DPF. You think they would go back to the drawing board and say lets take a look at the EGR...... NOX gas and DEF fluid and make a simple system. NOX gas is a greenhouse gas, also not good for your health.

    • @victorbernier4765
      @victorbernier4765 Год назад

      Lol ammonia oxide is what’s coming out now. Killing the plant and bees. Not so good to breathe also. Go back to biodiesel and see a better way.

  • @jsarty54
    @jsarty54 2 года назад

    YES !

  • @theworldaccordingtochris4370
    @theworldaccordingtochris4370 2 года назад +1

    So EGR makes a problem that an a DPF sorts out then that problem gets sorted out by SCR.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      pretty much. not sure what the next step would be for these trucks because they already run so clean at this point.

    • @loveracing1988
      @loveracing1988 2 года назад

      @@TheGettyAdventures the next thing would be reliability improvements. Doubtful that will ever happen with bean counters in charge though.

  • @dragbug100
    @dragbug100 2 года назад

    Why do you think Cummins went from the 5.9 to the 6.7? The power loss from the emissions was killing it.

  • @richardnalbandian9572
    @richardnalbandian9572 Год назад

    Is using bio diesel fuel bad for a Cummins motor?

  • @drbrad6514
    @drbrad6514 2 года назад

    Did you get a sense from the Cummins guy how long this new tech they're working on will take to get to the consumer market? Or perhaps said an easier way, when might Ram be able to have these new combo emission systems in their trucks?

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      could be years. these things take time to develop and then phase in. or it could be around the corner it's tough to tell.

  • @manuelcamacho6292
    @manuelcamacho6292 2 года назад

    What if you do water injection like they did with the aircraft in WWII

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      like water injection into the engine ? probably blow it up. I know the fighter planes in WWII would sometimes use it as a last desperation to evade the enemy but if you injected water for more than a couple seconds you'll blow up the engine.

  • @osmd7155
    @osmd7155 Год назад

    Anyone please which DEF is best for the 6.7L Cummins® Turbo Diesel I6 ?...thanks!

  • @stankdog
    @stankdog 2 года назад +2

    I work on a fleet of busses myself. We have a lot of blue birds that cane with a cat c7s, spark plug in the down pipe. (Total junk) we have since retro fitted 6.7s into them. Far less issues

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      ya the 6.7 are solid. they have their issues but seem to run well for what they do!

  • @geraldkoth654
    @geraldkoth654 2 года назад +1

    My 2007 DPF was clogged up with ash at 67000 miles. No way that will burn out. I repaired my truck so it would run properly.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      sometimes you just have to replace the dpf unfortunately $$$

  • @crazyburkey3677
    @crazyburkey3677 Год назад

    All these software problems are more reason to only buy vehicles preBS... Generally once you've fixed a problem in an older vehicle it stays fixed longer than the time it takes to drive across the lot...

  • @raymondlanier1112
    @raymondlanier1112 Год назад

    Have you ever stood behind a ford while it’s regening that’s way more chemicals than net zero . Even Cummings put out noxious fumes when it’s regening. What I’m saying I don’t think these components help the atmosphere. Great info though . FYI the short bus I road to school never had this problem because it was gas

  • @neohimself
    @neohimself 2 года назад

    Carbon emissions and exhaust gas pollutants are different things.

  • @thedudeaaronfyi
    @thedudeaaronfyi 2 года назад

    Bra! I needed that. Told my woman to be quiet and everything.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      lmaoooo, usually I get hit when I tell my women to be quiet!

    • @thedudeaaronfyi
      @thedudeaaronfyi 2 года назад

      @@TheGettyAdventures ya me too! But it was worth it.

  • @BlueElwood
    @BlueElwood 2 года назад +1

    Great video! Another reason I'll take my new diesel to Mexico to get it deleted lol

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      they work well to clean the exhaust but are a pain in the bum if you own a diesel. suck the power and life out of these engines.

  • @Eric2300jeep
    @Eric2300jeep 2 года назад

    Carbon dioxide is classified as a "Greenhouse gas". The funny thing is, plants & trees absolutely love carbon dioxide. In fact, we could have 400% more carbon dioxide in our air/atmosphere than we do now & plant life would be absolutely thrilled by it lol

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      True, but wouldn't that raise the climate which could result in some issues? I'm the farthest thing for a scientists or a tree hugger but isn't that the argument?
      I just find it funny how carbon dioxide is not considered an issues with the aftertreatment system yet we are always worried about the "carbon footprint"

    • @Eric2300jeep
      @Eric2300jeep 2 года назад +2

      @@TheGettyAdventures Yes, overall temperatures in the areas that are inclined to already being warm, will go up. But at the same time, nature does this funny thing where it likes to balance itself out so, the cold places will get colder.
      There was an entire paper written on it and of course, it was disregarded & swept under the rug. It's all about comfort. People get accustomed to being a certain temperature and freak out when it's not within the range they like. Doesn't necessarily mean that the rest of the world is having similar results. In fact, we really don't occupy a large majority of the places that could potentially be liveable because they have what most consider "extreme" temperature fluctuations and are typically further away from major cities.
      I live in a relatively remote area of California that's prone to wildfires, winter snow etc. So I see my fair share of extremes. And speaking of wildfires, 99% of the ones that everyone's been talking about over here, were completely preventable and their development had next to nothing to do with "global temperatures" and almost everything to do with human neglect. But of course, the media manipulated the facts to make a more attention getting headline.
      I apologize, I'm rambling. The term "Carbon footprint" is an absolute joke. We love to use terms like that, especially when it comes to self glorification. I don't know a single person who's said "I'm reducing my carbon footprint" that's not been a complete hypocrite. It blows my mind how much people waste, pollute and continue to do such while simultaneously thinking they've done something insanely small to offset it substantially.

    • @victorbernier4765
      @victorbernier4765 Год назад

      Very true and biodiesel is the best way

  • @freeride202
    @freeride202 2 года назад +3

    Sorry to break the positive feedback loop but after describing the emissions components, I have issue with your 'hypothesis". Yes, in some applications the displacement has increased. For example the 5.9L had to be increased to a 6.7L. With the highest emitting emissions engine the 5.9L made 160 HP and 400 lbs-ft of torque opposed to the 400 HP and 1075 lbs-ft found in todays RAM. What about a class 8 truck?? Well the Signature 600 debuted in 1997 as a 15L 600 HP engine. Today, the X15 can come with 605 HP from a 15L engine. You may be thinking of the lower horsepower X15 engines but this was done because Cummins did not have a smaller displacement engine to fill the 11L to 12L range, until the X12 was released.
    The theory around a loss of HP from the DOC, DPF and SCR causing a restriction is also misleading. The one thing that is required for almost every delete is an aftermarket tune. The term 'Stock Tune' is an oxymoron, to remove DPF, SCR and EGR components the software is highly modified and often adding HP either with fuel or advanced timing. The latter is also a main factor in fuel economy increase along with no longer requiring active regeneration of the DPF. If you have ever driven an early DPF equipped diesel with a hollowed out DPF running on the OEM software, you can tell there is no improvement in power before the system triggers a code. Also all tunes increase emissions to 1980s levels or worse. An LMM that is deleted in not the same as an LBZ engine is this regard.
    Also the idea of a shorter engine life with EGR is more of a feeling than a fact. Everyone will agree, that having carbon enter an engine seems like a bad idea and if there is another issue such as a leaking EGR cooler or bad injectors this can be a secondary issue that can lead to possible engine damage but if the engine is running properly, it is not the issue that people are lead to believe.
    Lastly, speaking from experience, a diesel mechanic tends to only see issues with diesel engines because that is what they work on. Also they tend to work on the ones that are having issues and not the ones that don't. This is something that I have to remember in my daily job.
    P.S. Its your truck and you can do whatever you want with it. I have no issue with people deleting their own trucks. I am posting this because the culture around diesel engines and deleting is like listening to CNN, we can do better as an industry.

  • @djaudioxtc02
    @djaudioxtc02 2 года назад

    I love how they call this "clean" when your truck burns more fuel per mile, uses another chemical that puts out only loard knows what, that chemical comes in a plastic jug made from oil that ends up in the trash, that had to get delivered in a truck burning the same chemical and getting less mpg all to bring something nobody wants it needs and not to mention all the material involved in making the dpf and the scr... But tell me again how it will save the environment haha

  • @hill160881
    @hill160881 2 года назад +1

    To answer the question. It does not matter they are required, so bitch all you want but removing it can result in huge fines and possible environmental lawsuits.

    • @HVTMuddvain
      @HVTMuddvain 2 года назад

      Depends on where you live and if they even regulate them here diesels are all safety checks dont even pop the hood or look under the truck.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      well of course they are required. I have no skin in the game I just work on the things. but did does seem they are ruining these engines.

  • @Justthemow
    @Justthemow 2 года назад +1

    Yes carbon is hard think diamonds anytime you run your exhaust back threw your engine your basically destroying your engine

  • @deignlory7726
    @deignlory7726 2 года назад

    Like peeing on a campfire 😂

  • @shawnalexander8009
    @shawnalexander8009 2 года назад

    This is exactly why I don't live in California In the South we all delete the emissions on our trucks school busses semi trucks tractors everything Because stuff does not do a bit of good plus you are correct it does hurt fuel mileage And the stuff is high in maintenance the EPA can kiss our asses in the South And the other thing that is bad that the ethanol fuel in the south and in Colorado we use none ethanol fuel because it will freeze including it tears up stuff like weed eaters

  • @JOSH-bx5wp
    @JOSH-bx5wp 2 года назад +1

    Delete it ,like and subd for those two life saving words lol. Atleast someone gets the pain of a new truck owner

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +2

      lol I see the pain on customers faces when they have downed trucks, time = money and these system cause nothing but headaches!

  • @jeremyfowler218
    @jeremyfowler218 Год назад

    I tried the 7.3 ford gas burner. The gas burner is a gutless pos when hook a load to it.

  • @Hibbie2963
    @Hibbie2963 2 года назад

    That black stuff for the most part is unburnt carbonixed diesel fuel, CARBON, the building block of all life in our universe.

  • @victorbernier4765
    @victorbernier4765 Год назад

    Biodiesel is the best way

  • @allisterbrunton4786
    @allisterbrunton4786 2 года назад

    You left highway?

  • @toolsntruck941
    @toolsntruck941 2 месяца назад

    I live up in the mountains and the air is clean and my truck in the middle of hundreds of thousand trees why would I care.im worried about getting my dump trailer up grade on a washed out logging road before dark! I'm needing power and reliably period no worried about my lungs when hypothermia will get ya trying to walk home in winter .or a mountain lion.not all diesel drivers are in cell range all the time .complex systems have more parts and means more chances of a break down

  • @leonardrice2830
    @leonardrice2830 2 года назад

    Supreme Court recently slapped EPA for over reaching, no?🤔

    • @victorbernier4765
      @victorbernier4765 Год назад

      Yes they did no proof of nox just wanted to make $$$$$$$

  • @tunanocrust2642
    @tunanocrust2642 2 года назад

    I’m just sick of the system breaking and shutting down the entire truck. If they made reliable def systems then I wouldn’t care… but the truck going into limp mode because the def heater failed is bs. Then it’s back ordered for a month and now your out your truck. Its over regulated bullshit. I do like it helps with emissions, but it’s leaving people without their $90k vehicles
    Then don’t get me started on the pollution from the boxes and plastic containers for the def, if you don’t live near a truck stop.
    I want to delete my Duramax just for reliability reasons. I also hope people just get fed up and lawsuits happen and change shit

  • @danw6014
    @danw6014 2 года назад +1

    These systems suck. After getting stuck with a load of horses a good distance from home because a sensor screwed up I had the system deleted. The mileage almost doubled and the problems went away and I still don't have a big cloud of smoke following me around. Basically if you can't work the crap out of these engines don't buy one especially in tractor. The carbon foot print is based of the fraud of man caused global warming. I'd worry about it doing the opposite.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад +1

      its funny you say that because the EPA says that the carbon dioxide that comes out of these trucks is not an issue. lol but anyways yes these system can be nothing but trouble and leave you stranded

  • @guyfawkesuThe1
    @guyfawkesuThe1 2 года назад

    Why don't they just run the buses on liquified natural gas?

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      that is a great question, I know some garbage truck companies in Canada do run on natural gas. the engines do not last as long and the maintenance is pretty extensive from what I've heard second hand. but it is a valid option

    • @guyfawkesuThe1
      @guyfawkesuThe1 2 года назад

      @@TheGettyAdventures Drove a Dodge RAM quad cab back in the service running on propane. Ran like crap.

    • @guyfawkesuThe1
      @guyfawkesuThe1 2 года назад

      @@Sun-for-man Ya no infrastructure for Hydrogen and the energy benefits are dubious.

    • @victorbernier4765
      @victorbernier4765 Год назад

      @@Sun-for-man that’s not going to work because biodiesel is a better alternative.

  • @recreationalplutonium
    @recreationalplutonium 2 года назад

    the death dozer

  • @bcrawford9072
    @bcrawford9072 2 года назад

    I force regen my truck every month.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      probably not a bad idea!

    • @loveracing1988
      @loveracing1988 2 года назад

      My ram regens every 24 hours of engine run time

    • @bcrawford9072
      @bcrawford9072 2 года назад

      I would say a passive regen. You will do a regen going down the road. If the truck doesn't like any of the conditions it will come out of regen. Then you half to build it back up to meet regen. If you force regen it keeps the truck in same condition and won't come out of regen tell done or mechanical problem.

    • @loveracing1988
      @loveracing1988 2 года назад

      @@bcrawford9072 no it's active. The only time it stops is when you shut the truck off or put it in park. All 5th gens do it.

  • @daalnweaver4354
    @daalnweaver4354 2 года назад

    Diesel engines used to be two stroke and was dirty.. All the new 4 stroke diesels run cleaner When properly tuned right.. I have a Cummins that produces 550 horsepower and no black smoke because it has been tuned right If you're producing large amounts of black smoke all you're doing is washing the cylinders down and can ruin the Engine The diesel fuel they produce nowadays is garbage... The DEF system produces a toxic gas and is also highly corrosive And is killing all the honey bees This system is outlawed in most countries around the world because of this Most of the wildfires in the United States are caused from this system ... There's nothing like watching over $300000 burn to the ground Because of a shitty design exhaust system.. And if you're a truck driver you know the smell it fills your cab of your truck up while you're sleeping full of carbon monoxide and poisonous gasses.. There's nothing like waking up to the smell of burnt piss and diesel fuel and a pounding headache

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  2 года назад

      interesting what countries don't run DEF system ?

    • @victorbernier4765
      @victorbernier4765 Год назад

      Very true I could take in the beautiful smell of French fries. Biodiesel is the only way to go.

  • @LEGOCAMARO
    @LEGOCAMARO 2 года назад

    7:35 When did kermit the frog become a Diesel Tech