Why is Pakistan Buying the Chinese FC-31 Stealth Fighter?
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Pakistan Air Force Chief Zaheer Sidhu announced the PAF will purchase the Shenyang FC-31 fifth generation fighter jets from China. What benefits does the plane bring to the Pakistan Air Force?
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Tags: Chinese Air Force, PLAAF, PLA, J-10C, JF-17 Thunder, F-16, Mirage fighter, Pakistan Air Force, PAF, military, defence
It's win-win for both China and Pakistan. For China, Pakistan is a test lab or R&D center for Chinese weapons. Pakistan is a war ready nation, always on alert and keeping a strong vigil on what its arch rival is doing. This gives Chinese firms deeper insights into how weapon system should be modified to stay ahead in competition. I have heard a Chinese weapons designer as to how Pakistani strategists push them to bring advancements in Chinese weaponary. Pakistan is also a gateway for Chinese weapons showcasing to other nations. For example, PAF J10s and Qatari Eurofighter jets are doing intense air combat exercises. This gives both airforces a valuable lesson about the capabilities of each other's jet. In a way, if J10 performs equally well or better than its western counterparts, it gives a free publicity to Chinese weapons. I'm quite sure J31 be sold to Pakistan in a much discounted price and easy payment plans. PAF will definitely enjoy strong edge against Indian airforce till the time it inducts the same technology in their service. By that time more and more upgrades and a large force of fifth generation jets trained PAF pilots will be ready to take on their Indian counterparts.
plus India is common enemy of both china and pakistan so china want to counter india with making pakistan defence strong so that china can take care of nato with being challenged by india in its nieghbour
You are absolutely right, and looking at Pakistan and it's current situation especially economic and stability they are still doing a pretty great job , makes you always wonder that what if they had the economy and stability what they could have become
Brave to them no doubt
BESHAK@@nikaawan9555
Insha Allah
Pakistan can only get Chinese fighter jets cos they buy it with a IOU
chit. Who else gonna sell it to them.
Only the smart Indians didn't know this. They always think China is arming their enemy.
But of course, Pakistan induct Chinese fighter jets with modifications recommended by PAF. PAF is acquiring more lethal and improved versions of FC-31 with modifications that are beneficial for PAF and lethal for enemies.
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@@吴德明-n8c Inducted about 177 fighters n j10s as well, new defense systems too. Guess they must had the money for it. 🇵🇰😏
@@fazoolde6811 when Pakistanis are living in poverty , and yet Pakistan 🇵🇰 government prefer to spend billions of dollars 💵 in China 🇨🇳 weaponry! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@吴德明-n8c still poverty in Pakistan is less than India. Except that we appreciate increase in Millitary power of Pakistan.
@@吴德明-n8c meh! Most these statements are feel good statement. People only say them to make themselvea look good. Two topics dont mix. National secruity trumps all.
Pakistan is slowly shifting from western weapons to Chinese made weapons. It’s a great move by Pakistan since western weapons come with a lot of restrictions , it’s not the same with Chinese weapons.
Yep they can get all the Newest American tech from China, china has good spys :p
And hunter biden leaves his latops everywhere :p
They have spys following hunter, He DROPPED ANOTHER ONE ;p
Pakistan start to use Chinese weapon system at 1965.
If they work.
@@grepsu-x6b
No it was from 2010 onwards but was in talks from 1995 when Pakistan jointly made JF17 thunder. It was all USA. Now Pakistan doesn’t have much money and USA have restrictions on weapon’s especially for Pakistan we still haven’t received F16s 25 of them where USA took the money but didn’t give so that money instead of giving F16s usa offered wheat 🌾 😂 so Pakistan shifted to China now and J10C is far better than F16s
According to PAF now J31 I can’t say they bluffed or serious as Pakistan is in crisis
Like those crappy chinese ships they bought a few years ago that had numerous defects? lol
Pakistan has engineers workig on the KAAN project in Turkey which was confirmed by the Turks themselves. China may be a good friend but so was America once upon a time. Pakistan needs to develop indigenous defense capabilites.
Very good statement Pakistan Turkey should work together
US government won't allowing US made jet engines export to Pakistan Just like T129 scenario !
Pakistan is a minor subcontractor of some components, nothing more. If there are Pakistani engineers working on Kaan, they're paid by the Turkish side and are responsible to them, not any entity in Pakistan.
@@Flyinghigh3597yes and that is why turkey will produce chinese engine based varients of kaan so that pak can use it with it
@@realtalk6195then how do u think pak turkey is making a joint fifth gen jet??
PAF will get KAAN fighter jet, but since KAAN won't enter production until 2030, PAF is buying FC-31 to have an advantage, Turkish officials confirmed Pakistani engineers working on TFX. so its safe to assume KAAN will enter PAF line up but will take a few years.
If Pakistan gets fc31 in the next few years then that would make the PAF OP against the IAF. India's only choice would be su57 which is an inferior 5th gen jet compared to fc31s superior stealth. India won't be able to buy f35s because india bought s400 missiles from Russia like Turkiye did.
I adore the fact that this channel (one of, if not the most professional defence RUclips channel on this platform) gives a decent coverage of the Pakistani Armed Forces. I only have huge respect for you.
Aside from that, the Airforce enthusiasts like me are absolutely stoked over this development.
You must be kidding, right? Because people are literally dying of hunger and we're wasting billions on weapons.
@muhammadhassankiyani8953 That is a very naive way of thinking my dude. There is no way in hell the Army is going to give money to the poor. That's like thinking somehow Elon Musk or some other billionaire retard should give his wealth to everyone on the planet.
I get your concerns but there is nothing I as this commentator can do anything about it. Maybe if I was the chief of Army staff or the minister of finance I could suggest these things.
@@muhammadhassankiyani8953what’s that got to do with a RUclips channel?
@@aaronnicholas3653 I was replying to the op. The op commented that he's an airforce enthusiast. I told him that we're wasting billions on defence when we could've used the same amount on the economic development of the country.
@muhammadhassankiyani895 let's be more mature about it. Budgets are a thing. Military procurement (which means the acquiring of weapons, tech and services from local or outside providers) is something we cannot be behind on. Especially when we are retiring our Mirages, A-5s, and F-7s. That will leave a massive gap in our air defence capabilities and India will exploit that gap to wreck us. So to maintain Parity and avoid sparking a disastrous nuclear war; we NEED to have sufficient assets to hamper dangerous Indian adventurism. The Air Force is a separate, Independent branch of the military. And frankly, it is the most important branch. They have a job and that job is to keep itself relevant and to guard us. This is them doing that job. The Air Force is not responsible for the development of the country or the elimination of poverty, That is the government's job.
Another information, Pakistan is also working with the Turkish in the KAAN fighter project as a direct partner. So, there might be a hi-lo mix of KAAN and Gyrafalcon fighters in the airforce
Pakistan is procuring ships from Turkey and so they are also a direct partner in KAAN/TFX fighter... so... probably not out of that project
I can imagine PAF buying j31s from China and then a small number of KAANS with kizilelma B loyal wingman for the most elite PAF pilots later on. Pakistan may also be looking to integrate locally built FAAZ air to air missiles and Taimoor cruise missiles.
@hellothere1656 if this happens, it'll be the most lethal combination in the region by every metric and in any AOR be it terrain, mountains, or sea
@@muhammadhuzaifaazamPakistan is also working with IMF to get another Loan 😂
@@mohitjangir4524 first check your own country
This acquisition is win-win for both Pakistan and China. It's integration with existing infrastructure will be easy, low cost operatability and customization permission according to PAF needs. As per known information this jet is highly customized after continuous evaluation by Pakistani air force pilots..
Your introduction is incorrect.
China's fighter jet bidding will only determine the winner in the design phase, and the Aircraft Design Bureau will present their own plans for comparison, rather than building prototypes for comparison like the United States.
Shenyang FC31 is not intended for bidding against Chengdu J20, The fifth generation aircraft project used by Shenyang 601 Factory to compete with Chengdu J20 was the "Snow Owl", which was a three wing layout of the fifth generation aircraft scheme, but ultimately failed to win.
After the failure of the "Snow Owl" project to bid for the PLA Air Force's fifth generation aircraft project, Shenyang 601 Factory did not give up on developing the fifth generation aircraft. FC31 is a small project developed by Shenyang 601 Factory using the fifth generation aircraft technology accumulated from the failed "Snow Owl" project and self raised funds within the factory, rather than a serious large-scale project supported by government funding after winning the plan like the J20 project. So FC31 is not a losing bid against J20.
Due to the in-house funding for research and development without the support of the national government, the project lacks research and development funds. So FC31 was considered for export at the beginning of its development, hoping to use its exports to attract other countries to invest in the project and raise more funds to improve FC31. Although many countries were interested in FC31 at that time, but no other country joined the project.
Later, due to the PLA Navy's need for a fifth generation stealth carrier based aircraft to counter the US F35, the PLA Navy invested in expanding the aircraft based on the FC31 and redesigning the new J35.
At this point, Shenyang 601 Factory finally received funding support from the PLA Navy, and the PLA Air Force also wanted a fifth generation aircraft that was cheaper than the J20, so the PLA Air Force also joined the project. Due to funding support, the project was able to become a full-time employee, so FC31 was officially renamed J31.
This is what we see today as J31 and J35.
牛逼啊，很准确😂😂😂
I hear the 🇵🇰 Air force J-10CE performed well in the war games with Qatar.
I am interested to know more. Any link
@@Wvk5zc muhammad told him in a dream.
@Pepe-dq2ib So that means it's true.
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Why your A$$ burning 🥵 with Islam?
Did any Muslim Impregnate your mama?
@@Pepe-dq2ibright, any other cheap strawmans you have since I don't see any real argument from you except a ragebait?
@@GanAirf all that and you didn't post the source either....
Evdry year China weapons has more sophisticating and better and better ,it is good opporjunistic for Pakista.😮
Word salad for cheaper.
@@Rob774i don’t undress why is everyone jeleous of china?? Bacause its exonomy is growing rapidly??😂
@@Rob774or may be the next super power??
*Saaar we india purchased the Rafael and Pakistan purchased the j20. Now that we got our tejas advanced somasa on front line, pakistan had no choice but to buy fc31.*
But we know that we have nothing to worry about with advanced tejas.
First to deliver me this news Good on you.
Pakistan is going to replace its ageing fleet of F-16s. Definitely J-31 is the best and obvious choice to replace F-16. JF-17 for F-7s, J-10 for Mirrages and nothing less than a 5th generation fighter can replace F-16. So good move by Pakistan.
I suspect the fc 31 project was always intended to have a carrier version.
That's it's primary purpose actually.
J-20 is more or less the Chinese F-22 (completely domestic design however) meant for a land based air superiority/interceptor role while the F-31 is supposed to be China's answer to the F-35 (a bit less original of a design).
There's still going to be land based F-31s as well but these are meant for export purposes such as the example of this video while the naval variants will go on to become the primary aircraft carrier fleet fighter in the PLA sometime over the coming decade.
That's called J-35
I think this aircraft will be a starting point for development of a proper 5th gen platform. I don't know how far along in development its software components are. It will get better with software updates. Maybe PAF will be able to write their own software for their own requirements.
WS 13E engine used in FC 31 is also used in JF 17 BLOCK 3 it is a smart move
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Syria should obtain some J10C as a low cost effective interceptor. The PL15 missile has a range of 300km.
If China sells PL15 range of 300 km. China must have the latest PL15+ with 400km range.
@@liongjiahwong5478 Not sure if the C version can use more advanced air to air missiles but this would give Syria a real deterrent in air to air combat without spending a lot of money. 300km is a long way.
Can you imagine you bought an iPhone and Apple tells you you are not allowed to use it in some places? 😅😅😅
@tlowe9796
Kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it?
And then they probably wonder why a lot of these nations are more interested in Chinese/Russian fighters.
@@hollowgonzalo4329 it feels like you are not buying but borrowing.
Pak F16s shot down 'Indian' Su30 and Mig21 on 27 Feb 2019, there is no 'restriction' on F16s use, dont listen to these 'stupid' youtubers to bcom a 'stupid' urself lol
@@aarifboyyes because back then the only thing they could do is stop providing parts. Now they literally have an access code 😂
A bit Ironic, because Apple is rather notorious for its borderline anti-competitive behaviour when it comes to restricting consumer use. When you have no right to repair, have to get media content only through their store frontend and pretty much have everything designed to be incompatible with anything not made by Apple.
While they don't actually tell you where you can't use an iPhone, it's really not that much of a stretch of the imagination.
@9:12 Pak F16s shot down 'Indian' Su30 and Mig21 on 27 Feb 2019, there is no 'restriction' on F16s use 😁
Only propaganda.
Not a shred of evidence for shooting Su-30😅
Lol SU 30? Hahaha. The cope is so real.
It was JF-17 that shot down Mig21, not Su30.
@@MuhammadAbubakarMourige Nope. F-16 shot the Mig21.
JF-17 wasn't carrying any long range weapons that day they were only equipped with bombs.
F-16 shot Mig21 with Aim120
@@IndianArma yeah SU 30 was shot and was crashed inside territory of Indian LOC. digest it.
The analysis is quite thorough.
Oh, My heroes of of the Pakistan air forces.
No1 beats the sailors of Brag-Rhat.
Close your hatches boi's
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@@taiwanstillisntacountryImagine losing a submarine to your own defences
Superneverpower China 🇨🇳 lol
@@IWasInBerlinDuringWW2imagine losing a helicopter due to a misfire. Tea was fantastic!
@@GanAirf technically losing a submarine is much worse
@@IWasInBerlinDuringWW2 oh but of course the person on RUclips who doesn't know any better is making a military analysis.
Good move. It's easy to imagine FC-31 gaining customers across the Global South. There's no way Russia can build enough Checkmates to supply all the potential customers.
@obblue
I wouldn't bet on it.
They checkmate is projected to be roughly half the cost upfront and given that the FC-31 is for the most part just a Chinese F-35 it'll in all likelihood be far costlier in maintenance as well (keep in mind the SU-75 only has one engine).
If Russia can get them into mass production by or before 2030 and they really are around the price they say they will be it'll be formidable competition in the global south.
With western sanctions at full tilt, there's no way the Russians are going to be able to build enough Femboys to even match the production of the Felon...
@@hollowgonzalo4329 Plus there's also the omnipresent issue of dubious Chinese manufacturing quality.
@@PsyckoSamalol this again? cope
@@realtissaye Do I look Russian to you? Or Chinese for that matter? American shit's expensive, but unlike our eastern rivals it works. Compared to the Russians who've been recycling the same Cold War designs with go-faster stripes for the past 30 years, or the Chinese who haven't ever had an original idea that didn't begin with stealing it from someone else first. I mean, just look at the FC-31... it's literally "F-35 at home". Largely because it's based almost entirely on stolen data from the F-35 program. Or going Russian, how the SU-57 is literally just a Su-27 with a (low quality) body kit.
And as for chinese production issues, their stuff on paper is solid and assuming it works it's a fantastic deal... but Chinese manufacturers are notorious for good reason. Several nations have gotten JF-17s with serious structural problems out of the gate, and hell, even the PAF has about 1/3 of it's JF-17 forces grounded... and this is from someone who thinks Chinese equipment is neat.
Why's Pakistan buying China FC31, the caption asked.
Simple, they hope to beat the triple SSS out of Indian air force. 😁😁😁
IAAC?
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Bangladesh air force beat indian air force easily😂😂
@@hitmanpubg1486lol maybe in ARMA 3 maybe
@@taiwanstillisntacountryCAAC??
@@hitmanpubg1486bangladesh has only 2 fighter jets while india has 500 jets😂😂😂😂.
Remember, China WANTS Pakistan to deploy as much combat power against India as is economically rational, because it weakens India's position against China. Even if China has no intention of ever invading India and starting a high-intensity conflict with the Indian military, an over-streched India would still leak to weaker Indian responses to border conflicts and a less confident India in negotiations. It would also make India's reaction to an inevitable Taiwan crossing more muted, which China would like.
Exactly. It's a good plan by the Chinese, they know the heated Indo-Pak rivalry and are using it to their advantage since Pakistan is their friend & India is their rival.
@@smhamza9705my enemy's enemy is my friend ...
In my opinion, Saudi arabia will also buy FC-31. As far as india is concerned, their 5th gen fighter will atleast take one more decade. I think india will pick either the SU-57 OR KF-21 and keep working on their own design without going in to panic mode.
As an Indian I think India should not buy other countries 5th gen fighters but to keep progressing in our own 5th Gen program, AMCA as well as the 4.5++ Tejas mark II and carrier based TEDBF. While we do need to fulfill the gaps at the moment with Rafaels manufactured within India with ToT. Gosh, 10 years from now is gonna be insane
@@pranayghosh4413 You guys need to get away from America before they eventually try to destroy you. You are next on their list after Russia then China.
@@pranayghosh4413 brother bura mat manna but tejas jab itne delay ka shikar hai to 5th gen fighter jet banana itna asan nhi hoga it will at least take 10 to 15 years for IAF to operationalize them or more
@@pranayghosh4413 your tejas 1 parts are mostly from overseas.... your level of tech not even close to 4.5 gen yet...
@@Obaid_Saeed bhai vo politics ke karan hi hua delay. Original design end of 80's mai hi designed thaa but the problem was the government interference, they always used to force engineers to change the designs according to their own criteria. Only after 2015 sab finalised hoke finally roll out hua. Right now things arent the same, Tejas mark II program is matured and 4 prototypes are already being ordered. This is crucial and most of the tech of Tejas mark II will be going in AMCA and TEDBF. Titanium metal cuttings and its weapons bay part is already done. Main problem will be the engine scenerio as Kaveri mark I isnt capable of producing more than 80kn. Although till then we will gonna use the american engines. Delays are there for sure but 15 years? nah no government would be able to do that as $2 billion is already invested in the programme. Lets see hope for the best to both our countries
You are wrong about kaan project... We are partner in kaan research team... So our 5th gen will based on kaan+fc31 ... Actually fc31 will give us enormous push in azm 5th gen jet..
fc-31 is not the jet that lost the 5th gen fighter compitation, sac got three-surface config heavy fighter by then, something like chinese version of su-57 with carnard
imo PLAAF at that time wanted a long range interceptor to deal with enemy's AWACs and tankers
And you believe the SU-57 is any good?
@@GanAirf if su57 design is given to chinese to produce, it'll be more stealthier
@@fatdoi003 perhaps, perhaps not.
@@GanAirf imo definitely, chinese manufacturing quality is way beyond what russians can do
Correction:
SAC put forward its own proposal for the J-20 (J-XX program at the time), but the PLAAF determined that CAC's design was better. J-31 was never a contender for the J-XX, but rather something SAC developed a bit later to attract PLAN and foreign orders.
What J20 was competing is shengyang's J14. J14 is a jet that is even larger than J20. And after the failure shengyang decided to design fc-31 to prevent the tech being totoally blank in 5th generation fighter.
FC-31 is definately a medium jet, while J14 is heavy jet.
I'd say Pakistan will go for at least 85 in all FC-31 more to replace the Mirage 3/5 strike fighter's before replacing its F-16's as thay are newer and thay could be replaced if needed by the J-10CE that and Pakistan could still want to try for a future upgrades or possibly the F-16V despite it currently looking unlikely keep in mind France had no problem selling the Rafale and Mirage 2000H to India and upgrade the PAF Mirage 3/5 fleet to ROSE standard and if the US and India were to have a falling out or/and Iran and Pakistan have a cold war or become formal enemy's Uncle Sam could become more generous with it's offering always good it at least keep a second option open at least on paper so after a tangent I'd between 32-85 FC-31
Replacing old Air frames is Role JF-17 Block2/B and Block 3/C
No more than two squadrons (32 fighters) and if we want more than we manufacture/assemble them in Pakistan like the JF-17s. We also need two squadrons of TAI Kaan from Turkey.
France didn't upgrade mirages of PAF. ROSE is a mostly indigenous effort from PAF. France however was recently approached by PAF for mirage upgrade program which was refused by France.
For win-win!
In 2to4 years fc31 or J31 will be inducted in PAK
Its comming next year. Deliveries start by mid 2025.
Export success! This makes the FC-31 the second 5th gen fighter in the world to achieve export sales.
Long answer and speculations short, if someone think a machine performs sufficiently enough and does the job in relation to acquiring and operational costs, then its a no brainer to buy it, especially if the supplier is around the corner.
It has the same capabilities of an F-35 while being at a discounted price and probably having less strings attached in most cases.
Not to mention that America is unlikely to offer newer platforms like the F-35 to countries not firmly within it's sphere in the first place so these places don't have much else in terms of 5th gen options (at least until the checkmates become commercially available)
@@hollowgonzalo4329 The checkmate will probably never come to fruition because of the war. Russia's greatest minds are going to be occupied.
We need more Pakistan videos please!!
plus Pakistan also buying kaan fighter from turkey. having two different kind of fifth gen fighters will help balance and help better strategize against the enemy.
Turkey only has 3 Kaan jets it’s first flight was just 5 days ago 😂😂
It’ll take over 10yrs for tha Kaan to ne sold 😂😂
10 years of course to mass produce for turkey and exporting @@trijalinamdar5396
Very. Very. Beautiful. Program. ❤❤❤❤❤. 👍👍👍👍👍. 💐💐💐💐💐
I'm not certain there are no strings attached. Kevin suggestions that China played a role in ending fighting between Pakistan and Iran.
It was not in interest of either Iran or Pakistan to be hostile. Both share the same opinion about Israel.
We need to manufacture this similar to JF-17.
Who is "we"?
JF-17 was a collaboration project from the beginning, China and Pakistan both put resources into developing that aircraft, therefore Pakistan is now able to produce it. But the j-31 is a stand alone project in China, and it also is a fifth gen fighter. It’s highly unlikely that Pakistan will be able to have the facilities to make that happen. These are also very expensive to maintain, much more than the JF-17s, making it unwise for Pakistan to acquire them in large numbers. Though, a squadron of these will give Pakistan a tech edge in the air against India and will enjoy air superiority in the conflict region.
Nope. We cannot manufacture it similar to JF-17. Pakistan initiated the JF-17 project and is the co-owner. The aircraft was designed in China but Pakistan was officially part of it from the start and paid for all the R & D. Pakistan gets the shares of profit if any JF-17s are sold to other countries. On the other hand, Pakistan was never part of J-31, it's already a finished product that Pakistan has opted to buy. Pakistan can only do "liscence" production. Which is NOT similar to ownership as in the JF-17's case.
Pronunciation is fine
Quite bold of pakistan to acquire chinese jets
TFX kaan will also be inducted as Pakistan has also partenerd with Turkey under Project Azam. To sum it up Pakistan has 2 5th generation jets in pipeline. 😊
4 if you count J-20 and our fighter development program in the 2040s
@@MuhammadAli-255 no project azm is merged with kaan project which means pakistan will acquire kaan fighter jet with customizations from turkey and kaan is being built jointly by pak and turkey
The real question is can u guy maintain them with this kind of economy❓😂😂
@@sanjeev842 apni fikar kar tatta nhi chata karo bar bar
@@MuhammadAli-255J20 won’t be sold
Abhinonedone getting ready for fantastic tea
Didn't the tfx people confirm around 200 Pakistanis working on the project?
I would be curious as to how many fighters Pakistan can afford, as well as afford to maintain.
The FC-31 is the export version of the J-31, AKA J-15 for use on China's carriers and an analog to Russia's SU-57, Aside from Pakistan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia have shown interests.
J35
FC31 is the designation before Chinese Airforce inducts the aircraft. It becomes J31 once it's procured by China. FC35 for example is now J35. Export variant will most probably be called J31e or J31P for Pakistan.
I thought that FC31 is a median weight fighter jet.
It’s actually quite large. Somewhere between medium to heavy fighter. It’s just slightly smaller than the f-22.
its, FC31 never get 2seat version, but it has 2engines
@@Jiaqi-p5b wow interesting. Would love to see the size comparison between the two
pakistan and turkey developing and manufacturing 5th generation plus fighter jet too... but its takes time too.. but due to sudden dynamic changes in international politics and wars... pakistan have to have 5th gen fighter jet
I believe the restrictions on the F-16s are for joint exercises (especially against China). If it was anything beyond that, why would the USA sell us AIM-120C-5?
Isnt Pakistan collabing with the turks for the TF-X?
It's not really buying if you can't pay for it 😂
It looks like a stealth fighter jet, but it has a metal coat, unlike the actual fighter jets with radar absorption material.
yeah a paje3t sitting in gurgaon knows what coating is being used for a classified plane
Indian are about to find out why our economy is so bad and why we keep talking about Gazwa-e-hind
They really need to cancel the order. There is a massive failure of Chinese weapons.
where? can u provide some evidence
@@hustler4386 When Iran bombed Pakistan, none of the made in China missile defense work.
Pakistan now is the most powerful force in South Asia, not india.
Sure kid.
A country that faces one crisis after another and has 1/10 of the GDP of india is surly crushing them.
We are talking about military might, GDP can be big with huge population but Pakistan have more supports and friends that india don’t have.
@@KingKong-uf3xq GDP and economic strenght are Essential for military might.
Pakistan hos not more "friends" like india. Pakistan is locked in a dept trap of China, collapses currently from within and about military, lost every war they ever fought, especialy against india.
Despite their shortcomings. They are fighting dozens of terrorist Organisations currently operation in their country
@@sH-ed5yf Pakistan got no Hindu to worry but india have few hundred millions of Muslim to worry, at least Pakistan have support from Muslim countries, but india as the only Hindu majority country, US not even india allies, Russia won’t act if india go war with Pakistan as Pakistan is China allies and Russia is China allies.
GDP essential but india can’t even afford best fighter jets or even they afford US won’t sell to india. There are many military equipments India can’t buy or afford to buy, their military development not on par with big military powers like US, China and Russia. Their jets and helicopters are old and even killed their defend minister. Their missiles not even function well when a missile accidentally fired into Pakistan. Imagine if it’s US, India have big price to pay.
lol@@KingKong-uf3xq
6:12 and Australia don't forget
everything is true except one. Pakistan is not willing to buy Turkish 5th gen, instead both countries are working on the same project
J10CE+PL15E的组合已经足够对付印度的二手阵风了，没必要买/卖FC-31
Rafale is war proven unlike that shit box
@@aryanshukla6026 war with who? man on the ground?
@@chongzhouliu7893😂😂😂😂 you're jealous
@@aryanshukla6026 Idiot, Rafale has never been war proven. it has never shot down any aircraft, never been tested in air to air combat. bombing terrorists with ak 47 guns that has no airforce and no air defence does not make it war proven. a ww2 aircraft can do that job just as good.
This is what happens when dumbos who read a-a missile with 400km range think they will Destroy all enemy fighters within that range. Learn a thing or two before you vomit your propoganda
I am watching you from Pakistan.
Its not the plane - its the Pilot!!! Giving new fighter to Pakistan is like giving a Ferrari to a Beggar who doesnt know how to drive !!! LMAO!
Cow worshipper.
Indian airforce admits Pakistan pulls a lot of weight in air battles. Did you forget 1965? Clown.
“We have an F-22 Raptor at home”
If Pakistani ESTABLISHMENT has to obey every order Washington will give, then these will be just those toys placed for decoration purpose. As a Pakistani, we are loosing everything which is beside us and gain nothing due to our policies made behind closed doors.
Indonesia Turkey Pakistan will have 5th Gen Fighter Aircraft
I am sure that it will be shipped back to US for full inspection.
Let's just swallow our American propaganda pill and believe that the diving American weapons are better than the Chinese weapons
- No other alternatives
- It isn't a Russian jet thus no US arms trade sanctions
very happy for Pakistan for acquiring FC-31 Beast
Go for aircraft carrier next😅😅
@@balajib1406nah we don’t need because we have enemies next to over 😂❤
Don't think these planes stand a chance against American hardware. This plane is probably a paper tiger.
Pakistan will be slowly but surely able to phase out its old jets with newer ones. That'll maybe give them the opportunity to sell their old jets like the f16 to Ukraine but idk who'd buy the old Mirage 5 😅 probably Zimbabwe to replace its obsolete hawker hunters
Either way Allah is running Pakistan or it would have failed a long time ago .even with India which is one of the strongest militaries in the world they still don’t have the capability to win a war against Pakistan they can’t even take Kashmir from Pakistan even though Pakistan has a less than half the army India has and also we support our army even when corruption occurs they are still rated number 1 intelligence in the world and still manage to keep Pakistanis safe .
Tfx has been merged with Pakistan's own stealth 5th gen fighter program called project azam. They will later aquire a special version made especially for pakistan. Otherwise good video
FC31 will be a Game changer for Pakistan against its Sworn Enemy India. BRAVO PAKISTAN 👍💥
Sworn enemy is replaced by afganistan 😅
I’m more surprised Pakistan is able to afford introducing new planes to begin with
I READ PAKISTAN PLANNED TO BY FC31.
PLANNING To buy and actually BUYING are two different things.
Can someone Confirm if Pakistani Air Force is REALLY ACQUIRING the fighter jets.
Thanks 😊
Yes I'm from Pakistan
Well the PAF Air Chief Marshall recently said in a media briefing that the groundwork has been laid for acquisition and the remaining processes would be completed very soon. So, acquisition is likely if we are to take his word for it.
Whats the point in buying something only to be told where and when you can use it. the only time you can tell some one where and how you can use this something is when you buy a car. And only then it is regionally based laws.
Pakistan made a big mistake by not announcing to acquire F-31 a few years earlier; it could have already been in service by now if it did.
说实话，我对巴基斯坦引进J31(FC-31)这事儿存疑。目前所有的消息都在自巴基斯坦，沈飞或者中航工业官方并没有确认这个消息。而且巴基斯坦以前也说过要引进J20，所以我觉得巴基斯坦引进J31(FC31)这事儿并不那么靠谱。
是靠谱的，中航明确多次表述北所中四一机三型，外贸机型出口第一个国家必然也只能是巴基斯坦，国产四代机潜在客户就那么几家，巴基斯坦是最有可能接收首批外贸中四的，同10c一样巴基斯坦也属于是替海合会王爷试货。至于j20外贸纯纯幻想了，至少国6铺开之前不可能的。
@@michaelxu1912 现在J35也在紧锣密鼓的试飞中，随着福建舰海试到服役我觉得沈飞的产能会向J35倾斜。昨天观网军工组的直播里也提到就算巴基斯坦想引进J31，沈飞的产能可能也不支持现在引进。所以他们对巴基斯坦引进J31给出的推论是八字那个撇上可能刚顿了一下，这也是我对巴基斯坦引进J31的推论。J31有可能会出售给巴基斯坦但肯定不是现在，我们对南亚的态度基本是平衡印巴的军事实力。在印度还没有获得四代机（五代机）的当下，我认为过早的出售给巴基斯坦J31也不符合我们对印巴军事平衡的一贯作风。而且最大的一个因素是巴基斯坦的经济也不支持他换装J31。
FC31 可能比 J20 保密度更低. 畢竟J20+無人僚機可能是未來新一代主力技術發展方向. 而FC31只是新一代"飛機"
@@axelalmar2785 沈飞去年招标的沈北新区厂房28万米，厂区400万米。这种新建规模不可能是为了再造他的侧卫了。中四会大造特造，巴基斯坦必然是第一家用户。巴空军有中械传统，改装方便，再说巴基斯坦不接装，接装后像10ce一样频繁对外演习，其他用户也很难下决心买。除了巴基斯坦再有可能也就是中东王爷，泰国，阿尔及利亚这种有钱的北非国家。不过巴快的话没准26/27年开始接装
@@michaelxu1912兔子现在也要大量歼16. 歼35还不成熟，要慢慢来. 歼20B + 歼16 + 歼十D 对付谁都够了.
Pakistan has a lot of fighters to replace very soon, 180 3rd G fighters let alone aging F-16 even those 18 new F-16s need to be replaced to get rid of american tech.
So those 180 fighters will be replaced by chinese fighters asap (JF-17BLK3/4, J-10C, J-31/35). The F-16s however will be replaced either completely or partially (54-72 fighters) by the turkish stealth fighter to keep a wing of fighters of western technology.
So pakistan has 184 JF-17, 36 J-10, 75 F-16, +180 (232 Currently by 51 substracted from already counted under delivery remaining J-10/17) Mirage3-5/J-7PG.
Those 180 3rd G fighters need to be replaced asap and china is the sole answer to this request. The new composition in my opinion is :
246 J-17, 72 J-10C, 72 J-31/35 + 75 F-16 that will be replaced by 72 TFX from 2030 onward as first option otherwise more J-31/35.
So the orders will be :
- 50 JF-17 blk 3 + 12 JF-17B (dual seat), delivered in 2025-2030 (also upgrading the existing fleet to the latest standard).
- 36 J-10 C before 2028.
- 36 J-31/35 (land version) delivered before 2028 (+ 36 optional/follow on order that can be made in 2027 and delivered by 2030).
All adds up to +450 fighter (the minimum pakistan needs and the maximum it can sustain (eventhough 54% are light cheap quasi-domestic fighters), they need support and to work on their economy).
I dunno...
Is the FC-31 really better than Pakistan's ancient F-15A?
That remains to be seen. The F-15 is reliable and performs although by now clearly they're so old they're close to falling apart.
But I don't know the FC-31 is reliable enough to use.
Hi dear don't be ignorant J-31 is quite a capable fighter jet.
pakistan doesnt have F15 they have F 16
很明显FC31项目和J35项目早就已经分道扬镳了，虽然壳子看起来还是一样但是FC31现在是纯出口项目而且是空军版本，J35是纯自用而且目前只有航母弹射版本
Indians saying they can detect J20 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, India Scammer Centers release some images 2D J-20 on radar section 😋😜😁🐄🐮🤡🤡🤡
@@ipinsos2000
🤣🤣🤣
@@ipinsos200093000 of you surrendered to Scammers?😂😂
What does that make you?
I'm sure they can. Every 5th Gen stealth aircraft is detectable a some ranges and directions. The su30mki and Rafale both have extremely powerful radars. The question is, can they detect it before it get within missile range? That's the question.
Indians don't know about the installation of a Ryomber lens
Export version of any weapon is a low grade version of the original weapon....... anywhere in the world.
So F15 F16 F35 is low version 😂😂😂
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this fighter in some non authentic is mentioned as blackbirds will defeat kuffar (india) . for correct sentence you can google
very simple the FC-31 is a fighter jet developed by USA
I wonder if India will now consider to buy the SU-57 again.
If the US don't sell their F-35s then India will consider
@@fgtrhwu2 That depends on if India is willing to go against US sanctions to buy Russian arms or whether the US willing to sanction India if it does.
In my opinion, India doesn't want to go against US whims until Russia's relations with the US improve, and the US also doesn't want to sanction India even if they did buy it going against the US.
@@realtalk6195 F-35 is a possibility then
Well timed decision by Pakistan
Because its awesome
Pakistan don't have money to buy cooking gas..where from they will buy 5th generation fighter jets😂😂 there is a huge difference between telling something or actually happening
Don’t watch godi media 🤓
#Eurasia PAF is expecting delivery in 2026 to 28.
2 to 4 years from now.
India might get the RU su-75 checkmate to keep up in the short-term.
Thats their only chance.
Rafale can take out J10C. Su-75 is not in operation yet
FC31 looks more like F-35. It will give Pakistan a upper hand in air superiority in the region
not sure about that. Rafele once shot down a F 22 raptor and also india can buy f 35s or su 57s when ever they want . U should also consider air defence systems . we cant be sure about anything when it comes to military. we are general public who barely have info on it .
@@Atomic.c.hso why India 🇮🇳 is not buying it huh? And those are just rumours 😂just like India 🇮🇳 saying we shot down f-16 😂 but Indian 🇮🇳two fighters are shot down tea was fantastic ☕️🥱
@@KINGgaming-zh6lp According to reports Pak lost a F 16 and it was said that it was shot down by a mig bison. Idk what pride is Pak taking in shooting down an aircraft IAF is planning to retire from its fleet. I don't think Pak is economically strong enough to maintain their nation in any aspect. Maybe your nation should consider stabilizing their economy rather than buying arms from China. On that note the Indian economy is nearly 4 trillion dollar economy. At estimated to grow even more . Maybe use loans from imf properly
Why, because China needs the money to develop the aircraft.
Because it's cheaper and America won't sell their F35s to them.
It's not as though I actually expect India to ask Russia to revive PAK-FA and let them buy Su-57s, but it would be very if they do
PAK-FA?
@@smhamza9705 PAK-FA was a Russian 5th gen program that produced the Su-57.
@@MuhammadAli-255
Rafale F 5 💪
@@basuvivek643 Bura mat manna bhai magar ab rafale ki rat band kar do purana ho gya Pakistan have better jets than Rafale.
@@TalhaSiddiqui-pv9srlmao no what u smoking lil bro?
Pakistan is a country in debt and asking 8 billion from imf for survival how they are going to maintain this aircraft is beyond my understanding.
Indians always get shock from, you people need to understand messages on our statements we don't use dialogue like Indians hope you remember we will surely react on our chosen time and place be ready
@@junaids30468 billion dollar goes to Dubai, Toronto and London to buy houses for army😅
Interestingly, this may force India to even the scales and purchase Su-75s, will be cool to how the two medium fifth generations compare!
nah we'll go for more rafaels
Did you mean Su-57?
@@anmolsharma2266 oh my, the wannabe super power couldn't manufacture 💩
@@hagankeys3610 ok
Nope, it's SU-75 akan CheckMate@@Shadowless_Kick
Pakistan doesn't have the newest weapons and jet fighters to vigilant India's counteroffensive at the border. But the Islamic nation became Pro-China, so, high officials in the government couldn't purchase American weapons so far. However, another Islamic state IR Iran showed Pakistan some aggressive moments, thus, Pakistan should deploy jet fighters to protect its territories. But the nation can't import NATO standard weapons from the Western world, therefore, Pakistan's last option to import weapons is only China.
Unfortunately, China's jet fighters developed these days don't have reliable functional aspects because the latest aircraft types were the result of reverse engineering from Russian and American weapons. Moreover, China's aircraft developers don't have the technologies to design aircraft engines. So, they just copied Russian engines but the result was not so good. The Air Force of Pakistan didn't use many jet fighters from China since most of them had very serious functional problems. Even China's aircraft makers couldn't fix those problems.
So, it goes without saying that the new jet fighter of China doesn't have the trustable capacity to deploy in Pakistan's Air Force. But Russia's weapon industry was totally fucked up by the US's international sanctions, so PAK doesn't have any other options.
You are so funny man. 😂😂
China needs to be careful Pakistan does not give one of these to the U$A.
So what? So the US can then reverse engineer their own decades old technology stolen by the Chinese? 🤣🤪🤡
Tbh why would Pakistan ruin it's partnership with china
@@Hanglmao Political Leader Imran Khan was replaced which is what the U$A war mongers wanted. The U$A war mongers seem to have influence in Pakistan.