That was my first thought when news of the encryption being broken was announced. However, when the encryption provider says it has been compromised, then you continue to use it, well that just makes these master criminals seem a bit slow.
@@carlstevens4981 I know they’re criminals and all of that, but that Dad’s gotta go down as one of the best dads in Liverpool criminal history, forget the money family first👏
Lad as from the "North" and a don't usually find the Midlands/Black country accent a thing of gravity to myself, but your calm delivery has me thinking, thanks for these uploads.
I absolutely love your channel mate. And your spot on time with the update on this case. Well done brother. Keep up the good work and don't worry about the haters and copy cats.. this is the one and only original.
@@PaddyLeggBass 🤣🤣 probably - I tend to just “listen” to a lot of these while I’m doing stuff. The pineapple grenades caught me off guard mid-mop session 🤷🏼♂️🤣
They were laying low…and then they went and kidnapped someone for ransom 😂. All that money they’ve made and product to sell, why take that risk? Is it more about the power than anything else then?
For the amount of people in all walks of life who take cocaine, it amazes me how it's still class A. The amount of money, police resource and taxes to keep them in jail leads to me to believe that it's just not worth keeping it illegal. it would cost way less to just spend it on the few who over do it to get them back on their feet. All this cost to the public, never seems to impact the availability.
I came across your channel. the other day by off chance and since I subscribed to it after watching about 3 videos. I don't subscribe to channels lightly but the research and contents are all comprehendable very well done I have already passed on to several friends about your channel and I will be passing it on to further friends. Good luck with the future and a toast to your channel Cheers
Shit rolls downhill! That's the only true statement I ever heard in my association with villains (not of this order, I'm neither hard, insane or from Liverpool!) but out of the copious reams of bullshit I heard, the only truism is that bigger people will eat the little people , fairness has no place there.
@CuriosSpiritual I'm buzzing mate, going to football tournament today with the grandsons football team and won't b back till Monday. My evening listening well sorted haha
The firm who lost their gear were serious players. Heard many a person mention how big they were and not just in Liverpool but well known and respected across the North West. Mad to think the run they had was stopped by doing business on encrochat
Buy in Liverpool and you'll get pinched on the 62, 56 or the 6. Once your money has been received, you're a target for Plod. Good luck getting out. The amount of heads getting nicked leaving Liverpool is off the scale.
Apparently it was Joseph nee who told the cox brothers were the Stash house was and that’s the reason Thomas cashman attempted to kill him and ended up killing Olivia by accident , Thomas cashman was Vincent coggins best gunman on Merseyside
that news cutting at the end showing 2 of the Cox brothers aged just 12 and 15 strongly suggests that their early life was a bloody nightmare , very likely saw them both subjected to violent attacks by man in their house. timely reminder that very, very few humans are born violent, nearly all get warped over many years of various forms of violence being committed against them as innocent kids...
I'm still really loving this channel. I assume you can't do any more of the Crimewatch vids due to rights reasons or something? It's a shame as they were my favourite, especially the robberies and heists.
It’s reused content, I had to prove how I obtained the results and how I find the information , after I lost the channel for reused content. It was reinstated the channel after making an appeal and showed how I gather and turn info into a script, but to be honest I covered the best ones before it went naff in 1994
@@CuriosSpiritual fair enough. Thanks for the response. There are other channels that do it, but they tend to focus on rapes or sexual assault etc. I'm more interested in bank robbers, cash van heists and Sierra Cosworth getaways.
Like you I’m more interested in the getaway cars, I have done every Cosworth crime watch video with a reconstruction shame there’s not a lotus Carlton one , all the good car ones mate all on here👍
I dont think ill ever be in a situation like this, couldn't imagine the worry of having someone wanting you dead for robbing their drugs. Knowing full well youre gonna be tortured and killed. Noooo thanks.
Did the dad get his house land and money back? I don't think Encrochat was ever encrypted, has there been a better way for the government to get a load of criminals all in one place, and pay for their every move to be documented?
so, the only time i ever hear anybody mention encrochat is in these crime videos about how it brought down the whole thing, i was in an element of it back in my youth and best believe we wouldn't trust digital messaging systems
Great work. Super interesting. Just goes to show that most of these lot end up greedy and stitching each other up. Not often that any of them make it out alive or free.
Dickie and Francis were described as shadowy in an article by the Echo years ago but looking at the recent news , it seems Dickie at least was very hands on and if he was then he could only have got away which all the violence by having bent plod helping them
When you say “the like we may never see again” regarding the brothers. Honestly there’s loads of muppets like this running round Liverpool. People will just take their place. A lot of them even go out of Liverpool and supply other towns and city’s with drugs.
I doubt it, takes 4 guys rob them easy like that 😂, I lived in Bradford for a few years the top guys there have armies, you just can't drive into some parts as strangers and out, most streets have cars or lads on end of streets always watching
Nah la they were always afraid of coming back to Jedi land, The One Eyed City, Birkenvegas ever since they came over on the Ferry and got rinsed , blew themselves up wearing jarg SL-80s and asking for “half a bitter please barmaid?” when it was defo a quegg behind the jump. So remember the busys can breathalyse you and beat you in bed but they’ll never ever beat the Bully Boys of Birkenhead…
Nice one our kid, really interesting stuff backing up your first story on these nasty animals. Have you had think about doing the Alvechurch & Redditch murders?
@@CuriosSpiritual Ahh, the knife was actually hidden inside her boot to begin with, they found it when they looked inside the lining and saw the blood stained imprint of the knife. The other was in the Kingfisher Centre car park where a man stabbed a mother(?) and then cried for help claiming that he had found her in that condition. The first one is now out and I believe living with a chap at the seaside somewhere down south?
@@mark747captain I remember them both, I used to walk in that car park to the car when i was a kid, I was shopping with my mom she kept telling me the story of the murder scared the hell out of me,I will take a look at them
@@CuriosSpiritual Yeah, I used to go there regularly with my mom. My Uncle & Aunt used to live live above the Chippy by the nick there. I think it's a Pizza place now?
What are the particular specifications that you have to fill to get an Osman's warning? What makes it more likely you would be protected that way? I've only ever seen it used for people who cooperate
an Osman warning is when the police uncover a persons life is in immediate danger and they notify that person.its done to anyone and not just snitches as you claim the police have a duty of care to notify anyone who the know to be in danger Dnt try and pretend to know more than u do
How do these people get to be so big in the criminal world,They get caught eventually if a tough sentence was giving out sooner a little girl would not be dead .
What makes me laugh about this is they talked about having a bent copper on the firm called Piggy and in a search found print out from the police computer. The old bill has since said they've carried out an investigation and found no suspicious access to the police computer data base 😂
@@t3zzy-rq6mj Apparently they’ve been at the top for 30 years, you’d think they’d already have plenty of money to pay workers , it obviously wasn’t the first half tonne they’d distributed.
I’ve come back to this video. To watch it again. I’ll tell you something, if anybody thinks the gangsta life is glamorous they should watch this. These are some of the most ruthless bastards you can imagine. Horrible horrible people.
Coggins was so hard that he sent people to do everything for him, he blubbed to his lawyer on a fishing trip technicality then pled guilty. His brother is so hard that he's gone into hiding.
Like walking around blatently when you are on the run makes you hard, what a daft comment. These two would twist you into pieces without a thought and done their business for 30 years which will mean someone is looking after their work right now even while they are inside. They are daft for blowing it all on phone talk but everyone knows how big they were.
This is the best True crime channel from the U.K!!👍
Thank you for that 👍
@@CuriosSpiritual I’m from Manchester believe most of this is complete bull honestly completely made up
Agreed. Always good content. 👍
True
Buyton! Thanks again for your time and effort producing this for us all and keep them coming please Sir.👍
Thank you so much 👍
@@CuriosSpiritual another brilliant vid 👏 👏 👏 👍
Encrochat catching more Villains than Scooby Doo.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was usually the janitor
The French de crypt it
That was my first thought when news of the encryption being broken was announced.
However, when the encryption provider says it has been compromised, then you continue to use it, well that just makes these master criminals seem a bit slow.
Despite the rumours Dutch underground developed it it was the French police who then let it run for years before ‘decrypting’ it.
Them pesky texts!😂
The demand for drugs on today's streets here in the UK is pretty insane.
Thanks again fella.
& every kilo of coke turns into 3 :/ THATS the problem the greed for money
There's talk in Colombia about legalising coke and in Mexico the cartels were almost declared as t-rrorists.
This channel is great! Glad to see it's growing.👍
Brilliantly put together fella, your content is getting better and better, thanks for these vids.
So the guy paid a million pound to save his son and it wasn’t even his son who nicked it, I’d be wanting back my money lol
1.3 million worth of property he got 😮
@@George-v5c5nProperty and money.
There has been some sort of repayment. But you can't just give it all back, now NCA and proceeds of crime are involved
@@carlstevens4981 I know they’re criminals and all of that, but that Dad’s gotta go down as one of the best dads in Liverpool criminal history, forget the money family first👏
At the same time it makes you look guilty . I know how the dad was thinking but . criminals what take that as a sign on guilt.
Excellent as usual thank you x
Many thanks! 🙏
Another well put together video mate. Keep em coming. 👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks 👍
Lad as from the "North" and a don't usually find the Midlands/Black country accent a thing of gravity to myself, but your calm delivery has me thinking, thanks for these uploads.
Nought Taken Out. 🍞
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely love your channel mate. And your spot on time with the update on this case. Well done brother. Keep up the good work and don't worry about the haters and copy cats.. this is the one and only original.
Much appreciated thank you for that 👍
Watched a fair few of your videos on various criminals and criminal conspiracies.
Really good work and detailed
Love the videos
Keep up the good work
Love these videos mate ! They have that atmosphere about them ! 👍
Glad you like them!
As always terrific post. Loved the ending. Didn't quite see that coming.
You: “can you sort a pineapple?”
My brain: I bet that’s like a kilo of coke..
You: “…it’s a Grenade”
Me: ahhh well then again maybe not 😂
😆
There was literally a picture of a grenade looking like a pineapple 🍍 on screen when he said it 😂 🤣 🤦♂️
@@PaddyLeggBass 🤣🤣 probably - I tend to just “listen” to a lot of these while I’m doing stuff. The pineapple grenades caught me off guard mid-mop session 🤷🏼♂️🤣
@@TomStansfield 😂😂😂
The best uk crime channel on youtube 👌
Thank you 🙏
Too notch again straight, and easy to understand keep it up,❤
Thanks 👍
DEEP DEEP....
Double DEEP
Wow enjoyable watch...
This time next week fella..
Cheers 🥂
Glad you enjoyed it
Another great video please keep them coming mate cheers
Thanks 👍
Ah Sunday morning, bacon, eggs coffee and a new Curios&Spiritual.
They were laying low…and then they went and kidnapped someone for ransom 😂. All that money they’ve made and product to sell, why take that risk? Is it more about the power than anything else then?
@WayneJon-ui2hj What pool. How about Oceans 🤔
Thank you for the brilliant follow up.
Very good video as usual...🎉
They Cox brothers must be having a terrible time in the nick😂
They are what they eat
Least they have 3 of them
It’s the other way round! The old scouser will have to keep their head down.
My thoughts exactly, wonder if there on numbers or normal location 🤔 bet they don't sleep well....
@@kisertherednoseHow can you feed and clothe your kids with drug money ?
Are these real people ?
Great content and very well narrated. The best
Much appreciated thank you
Wow, for a lot of those guys, their sentences are essentially a de*th sentence, given their ages.
And so it should be.
i think thats the idea.....
For the amount of people in all walks of life who take cocaine, it amazes me how it's still class A. The amount of money, police resource and taxes to keep them in jail leads to me to believe that it's just not worth keeping it illegal. it would cost way less to just spend it on the few who over do it to get them back on their feet. All this cost to the public, never seems to impact the availability.
The police acting as referee in criminal enterprises, unbelievable.
Keep up the great work Curios. Great channel! Bless you and takecare
Thanks, you too!
When Coggins got warned not to kill anyone by the police (reverse Osman is it?) why didnt he consider Encrochat had been hacked🤔
Idiot init
Probably a grass
Blind rage and ego perhaps?
Great video & content mate One of the Best on RUclips by Far. Love & Respect from Glasgow 🏴
Much appreciated thank you 🙏
I came across your channel. the other day by off chance and since I subscribed to it after watching about 3 videos. I don't subscribe to channels lightly but the research and contents are all comprehendable very well done I have already passed on to several friends about your channel and I will be passing it on to further friends. Good luck with the future and a toast to your channel Cheers
Thank you for such great support and feedback,its very much appreciated
Fantastic video. Cheers!
Imagine signing over your house and land to protect your son and he didn’t even rob the bastard 😭😭
fear is a terrible thing
Shit rolls downhill! That's the only true statement I ever heard in my association with villains (not of this order, I'm neither hard, insane or from Liverpool!) but out of the copious reams of bullshit I heard, the only truism is that bigger people will eat the little people , fairness has no place there.
Favourite channel atm
Boss or what! 👍👏
Sweet thanks 🙏
How have i just found this channel, its qaulity and well researched and presented. Top content
Thank you my friend
@CuriosSpiritual I'm buzzing mate, going to football tournament today with the grandsons football team and won't b back till Monday. My evening listening well sorted haha
@@oddy532 hope they win, have a great time mate
The firm who lost their gear were serious players. Heard many a person mention how big they were and not just in Liverpool but well known and respected across the North West.
Mad to think the run they had was stopped by doing business on encrochat
Watched many true crime channels, this is one of the best
thank you watch out for wednesday, for next part of that video
Buy in Liverpool and you'll get pinched on the 62, 56 or the 6.
Once your money has been received, you're a target for Plod.
Good luck getting out.
The amount of heads getting nicked leaving Liverpool is off the scale.
Suppliers grassing to the feds? To catch a break?
@@SnookerMafia-or6nu Dropping some out-of-towner to Plod is part and parcel of Liverpool dealers but they make sure they take the cash first.
@@SnookerMafia-or6nu The dealer gets his dough and a reprieve, while Plod gets a commendation for a job well done.
Sickening.
@@einsteines So Rats 🐀. You got a rat problem. Know what you do with Rats. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I heard about that in Buckley Hall years ago, I was told never do fuck all by the Rocket......
When so many names and faces are talked about and shown maybe add names to the photos. Makes it extra easy to follow such a Web of people
There's no friends in this type of business, none.
Why don’t they make their millions and retire in peace? Must be addicted to power and love having people fear them.
Yes you got to be psychotic to be a top level drug dealer not morals at all
Not that simple. Too many people rely on you.
Apparently it was Joseph nee who told the cox brothers were the Stash house was and that’s the reason Thomas cashman attempted to kill him and ended up killing Olivia by accident , Thomas cashman was Vincent coggins best gunman on Merseyside
Nicky Ayers and Karl Bradley are two he's suspected of murdering.
Excellent content as always , Thank you for your hard work
Handsome bunch.
that news cutting at the end showing 2 of the Cox brothers aged just 12 and 15 strongly suggests that their early life was a bloody nightmare , very likely saw them both subjected to violent attacks by man in their house.
timely reminder that very, very few humans are born violent, nearly all get warped over many years of various forms of violence being committed against them as innocent kids...
Yes!!! Something with substance i can watch
cant wait to watch this later. Your first video on this is one of my favourites
Hope you enjoyed it!
couldn't wait...
hopefully the father and son duo get their money back
Ironic really that the headmaster ended up with a detention 😂😂
Good stuff thanks mate.
Glad you enjoyed it
Wow, outstanding video 👊
Thanks 👍
Such a top channel. Cheers
About time 😂 have a good weekend chap!!
Good vid that mate, huyton Mafia, top of the tree, 😎.
Thanks and your right,
Speke top of the tree lad
Not half mate haha@@BIGJOCKKNEWFTP
I'm still really loving this channel. I assume you can't do any more of the Crimewatch vids due to rights reasons or something? It's a shame as they were my favourite, especially the robberies and heists.
It’s reused content, I had to prove how I obtained the results and how I find the information , after I lost the channel for reused content.
It was reinstated the channel after making an appeal and showed how I gather and turn info into a script, but to be honest I covered the best ones before it went naff in 1994
@@CuriosSpiritual fair enough. Thanks for the response.
There are other channels that do it, but they tend to focus on rapes or sexual assault etc. I'm more interested in bank robbers, cash van heists and Sierra Cosworth getaways.
Like you I’m more interested in the getaway cars, I have done every Cosworth crime watch video with a reconstruction shame there’s not a lotus Carlton one , all the good car ones mate all on here👍
I dont think ill ever be in a situation like this, couldn't imagine the worry of having someone wanting you dead for robbing their drugs. Knowing full well youre gonna be tortured and killed. Noooo thanks.
The lads who decided to rob these Huyton girls must of been out of there minds or know nothing about them
I was at Goodison yesterday, we stay with friends in Huyton, but is really nice area - guess some is bad like anywhere
😮😮 I've only just realised I've watched numerous vidoes of yours and haven't subbed. Just subbed loving the content 👌
thanks for the sub, brill
I really do hope you stick to these real gritty uk stories , you narrate them so well
Once the NCA are on your case you might as well dust the county and move Dubai.
Another classic!
Star thanks
Enjoyed that update 👍
What happened to the mans house and estate?
Did he get that back?
I left it for another video, you see he wasn’t how you say legit 🧐
@CuriosSpiritual
Ahhh ya tease (🤣)
Brilliant channel, the criminal underworld fascinates me, thanks for this awsome content 👏
Did the dad get his house land and money back?
I don't think Encrochat was ever encrypted, has there been a better way for the government to get a load of criminals all in one place, and pay for their every move to be documented?
Yeah. Facebook 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great channel this. Only just discovered it. Result!!!
Awesome, thank you!
Very interesting many thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great content!
How dominos fall. The juice isn't always worth the squeeze.
Very informative. Great vid 👍
Thanks! 👍
Always well reserched, best channel 👊
I appreciate that thank you my friend 👍
Could you do a video about the events that led up to the killing of the 8-year-old girl? I remember that was huge news at the time.
Done it already Thomas Cashman video is in my uploads 👍
@@CuriosSpiritual good good
so, the only time i ever hear anybody mention encrochat is in these crime videos about how it brought down the whole thing, i was in an element of it back in my youth and best believe we wouldn't trust digital messaging systems
Great work. Super interesting. Just goes to show that most of these lot end up greedy and stitching each other up. Not often that any of them make it out alive or free.
Very true!
Dickie and Francis were described as shadowy in an article by the Echo years ago but looking at the recent news , it seems Dickie at least was very hands on and if he was then he could only have got away which all the violence by having bent plod helping them
What a bunch of greedy horrible counts , all that money but they need to rob each other ! Greed
A lot of dead eyes in this vid, mate.
Very true
Ill intent.
Great video again 🖖
Thanks for the visit
@CuriosSpiritual keep up the good work 👍
When you say “the like we may never see again” regarding the brothers. Honestly there’s loads of muppets like this running round Liverpool. People will just take their place. A lot of them even go out of Liverpool and supply other towns and city’s with drugs.
Very true, but Coggins remained in control for over 40 years , that’s one hell of a long run before losing the crown
Todaya gangs seem to violent, or rather too carelessly violent, to keep control.
Mad how this robbery caused the whole thing to fall down encrochat the gift that just Keeps giving
It never the police are just saying that, they were on them well before that ffs 🙈🙈 don’t believe everything the police tell you lad 😂😂
The Coggins firm were ruthless. Everyone is Liverpool was scared of them
Obviously not kid
That’s why they got taxed
I doubt it, takes 4 guys rob them easy like that 😂, I lived in Bradford for a few years the top guys there have armies, you just can't drive into some parts as strangers and out, most streets have cars or lads on end of streets always watching
@@GrahamHussain-lu1fn most of the drugs and guns in Bradford come from Liverpool
Nah la they were always afraid of coming back to Jedi land, The One Eyed City, Birkenvegas ever since they came over on the Ferry and got rinsed , blew themselves up wearing jarg SL-80s and asking for “half a bitter please barmaid?” when it was defo a quegg behind the jump. So remember the busys can breathalyse you and beat you in bed but they’ll never ever beat the Bully Boys of Birkenhead…
@@PeterSothernlad we’re #MilesAhead
Nice one our kid, really interesting stuff backing up your first story on these nasty animals. Have you had think about doing the Alvechurch & Redditch murders?
only thing I could find was the road rage incident, with the knife hidden in fuel tank
@@CuriosSpiritual Ahh, the knife was actually hidden inside her boot to begin with, they found it when they looked inside the lining and saw the blood stained imprint of the knife. The other was in the Kingfisher Centre car park where a man stabbed a mother(?) and then cried for help claiming that he had found her in that condition. The first one is now out and I believe living with a chap at the seaside somewhere down south?
@@mark747captain I remember them both, I used to walk in that car park to the car when i was a kid, I was shopping with my mom she kept telling me the story of the murder scared the hell out of me,I will take a look at them
@@CuriosSpiritual Yeah, I used to go there regularly with my mom. My Uncle & Aunt used to live live above the Chippy by the nick there. I think it's a Pizza place now?
@@mark747captain deffo needs a look into maybe go on location
What are the particular specifications that you have to fill to get an Osman's warning?
What makes it more likely you would be protected that way?
I've only ever seen it used for people who cooperate
Read police information about it just, “it’s a credible threat to life “
@@CuriosSpiritual yea I get that but how are they going to know unless there's a rat in the chain or they're protecting one?
an Osman warning is when the police uncover a persons life is in immediate danger and they notify that person.its done to anyone and not just snitches as you claim the police have a duty of care to notify anyone who the know to be in danger
Dnt try and pretend to know more than u do
@@kisertherednose I didn't claim anything you mong.
What I said is that I have only ever SEEN it being used for informers.
@@kisertherednose why do you think I asked?
VERY good but, haha, after 2 minutes'... I'm lost!! I see the Coxs' started young!!!
Another top video 💪🏻👌
Thank you 🙌
How do these people get to be so big in the criminal world,They get caught eventually if a tough sentence was giving out sooner a little girl would not be dead .
What makes me laugh about this is they talked about having a bent copper on the firm called Piggy and in a search found print out from the police computer. The old bill has since said they've carried out an investigation and found no suspicious access to the police computer data base 😂
yeah, how could you not find piggy, if you access any police records you have to enter a individual code which every copper has one
@@CuriosSpiritual you're right. And if they can't track who was looking at their records, then they need to overhaul their procedures so they can.
Did that guy get his house and land back?
Yay new vid 😊
What the F ...K is happening in our merry old England !
I think my girlfriend's a secret drug dealer.
I just answered her phone, and this man said "is that dope still there?" 🤔
Why would you have all that gear together in one house 🙈should never put all your eggs in the same basket. Lol.
One of many stash houses? These were big players not only in Liverpool but in uk and Europe apparently
Makes you wonder what sorts of murky things have been going on for years
Quality channel this is, top top work 👍
These stories on this channel are something else
If this was such a mighty firm (not disputing) why did they need to sell a relatively small amount wanting the money up front?
They had up to half a ton out on strap at a time. Probably freeing up some cash to pay workers and stash minders
@@t3zzy-rq6mj ta m8
@@t3zzy-rq6mj Apparently they’ve been at the top for 30 years, you’d think they’d already have plenty of money to pay workers , it obviously wasn’t the first half tonne they’d distributed.
@@Swansea-hu5ok could be full profit and moving them separately
Thanks video
Anotner good watch 👍🏽
Can the guy get his house back? Was it seized and returned by the police?
the good old parcel delivery guy at the door...
I’ve come back to this video. To watch it again. I’ll tell you something, if anybody thinks the gangsta life is glamorous they should watch this. These are some of the most ruthless bastards you can imagine. Horrible horrible people.
Coggins was so hard that he sent people to do everything for him, he blubbed to his lawyer on a fishing trip technicality then pled guilty. His brother is so hard that he's gone into hiding.
Like walking around blatently when you are on the run makes you hard, what a daft comment.
These two would twist you into pieces without a thought and done their business for 30 years which will mean someone is looking after their work right now even while they are inside. They are daft for blowing it all on phone talk but everyone knows how big they were.
Being hard means absolutely fuck all in this game, danger and fear are the currency