Built '11 BMW 335is or M3? - One Take
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The 2011 BMW335is fell into a gap BMW imagined that lay between the 300HP 335i and the 414HP M3. The BMW 335 was a solid grand tourer, and the "is" got 320hp, and up to 370ft-lbs of torque using an overboost function. But the big difference is that it kept the twin-turbo engine (whereas the 335i went to a single turbo). It got a better cooling system and the exact same dual-clutch trans as the M3 got.
That's a very good recipe already, but as many know, the FI BMW inline 6 engines are rather strong. They can take a lot more boost, and make a lot more power.
500WHP in the case of this one. (MODS BELOW)
Chris' 2011 335is has larger turbos (with all the necessary piping), a tune, intake, sorted suspension, and up to 20PSi.
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2011 BMW 335is Mod List;
Engine:
N54 Engine with Burger Motorsports jb4
Tuning by Pure Evil Tuning
Pure Turbos Stage 2 turbos
BMS filters with VRSF Inlets
ATM 7” Intercooler
BMS Charge pipe with N20 MAP sensor
Forge diverter valves
Fuel-It Stage 2 LPFP and -6 E85 fuel line
N54 Tuning 3” down pipes
Black Market single to duel rear 3.5” exhaust
Drivetrain:
Stock Duel Clutch Transmission
Stock rear diff with diff lock down
Rear subframe bushing inserts
Suspension:
M3 control arms F/R
Dinan Motorsports springs
Dinan Front Camber Plates w/ lowering perch
Koni Yellow Struts
Eibach 28mm front sway bar
HR 25mm rear sway bar
ECS Strut Tower Brace
Brakes:
ECS Tuning F30 M Sport Front brakes 370x30mm
ECS Tuning Rear Rotors 336x22mm
Hawk HPS performance pads F/R
ECS Tuning upgraded brake lines and fluid
Wheels & Tires:
Stance SC-2 Wheels in Brushed Titanium
19x8.5 front, 19x9.5 rear
Michelin Pilot Super Sports
255x35x19 Front
285x30x19 Rear
Well just so there is no confusion, there are bigger differences between the regular 335i and the 335is. Apart from the aesthetic changes (black mirrors, no fog lights, unique rear diffuser, "is" badging inside/outside, and gray gauges) BMW also added a unique sports exhaust which is different from the regular 335i sport exhaust, Motor mounts are stiffer, it has a bigger cooling fan, an additional oil cooler and an additional radiator (hence the foglight delete for airflow). The engine is basically identical to the one in the 1M with the turbo overboost AND while it wasn't mentioned in the video it was offered with a 6speed manual tranny for those who dont want only 2 pedals. Hope this helps.
Oh also, I'm curious how his DCT will hold up to the power in the long run. There have been many on the forums who blow the DCT tranny's because they were only designed the 290ish ft/lbs of torque that the M3 V8 makes. They were never intended to handle the mountain of torque a modified N54 engine makes. This guy might have almost double the original torque this tranny was designed for.
@@Enzonius Not true! If you look at the GETRAG page, these DCT are rated for ~500 ft. lbs. Also, there are clutch kits for those going higher in the torque curve.
There is no additional oil cooler, but there is an additional pony radiator on the driver's side. The E93 335is convertibles lack these and thus retain the fog lights.
The ducting for the airflow to the oil cooler on the passenger side is much improved over any other E9x 335i.
That is interesting. Do you have a link to the data? Thanks.
@@maxnix346 everyone thinks it has an additional oil cooler but it doesnt. Just the auxiliary radiator. Got into a argument one time with an IS owner and he got butthurt i was right lol
Zack, "What you got done to the car"
Chris, "Well in 1985 I decided I liked cars........"
That's like half of the owners on One Takes. "What have you done to this car?" "My great grandfather was born on a Tuesday in Winter..."
eb110americana Lmfaoo
eb110americana 😂😂😂😂
😂😂
"In the beginning of time when cave men invented the wheel..."
These E92s are so brilliant. The design is absolutely timeless, and the driving dynamics are awesome. That hydraulic steering has excellent feel, and it feels so natural in comparison to the F32s. I love this generation of BMWs. The interior has a much higher quality feel than in the F32. It's an awesome car!
Alex Pascutiu yes sir I love my e92 😍
couldn't of said it better was thinking of trading in my e90 335 for a f30 I drove it biggest gripe was the interior quality huge downgrade
Lots of hard plastics in the F30. It's sad how noticeable the cost-cutting is in the F30. The fit and finish is really bad in the early models.
To me, the e90's interior feels like a downgrade in build quality from the e46's interior. Same for e60 vs e39. But the F30 feels like a further downgrade from that. The door handles, points you touch daily, are Kia like in terms of feel.
Looks outdated to me, unless it's an M3 which still looks great
He could not wait to talk about his car Lol
Its cool tho, I've found the E9X tuning community is super passionate about their cars and really helpful on the forums and at meet ups
r1_marcus anyone who doesn’t want to talk about their car shouldn’t be on this show (or just let zack/matt drive solo)
You were expecting maybe a lively discussion of aged cheeses?
r1_marcus yea fuck him for being proud and passionate about his car! Especially on this channel about cars, in this video about cars! How dare he!
Yes you can tell this is a proud N54 owner ! Zack just sat there like a sponge wanting to just drive already Lol
N54,n55 and b58 engines are f'in monsters once they've been worked on,not to mention the epic sound
phantom2k10 I'm so happy with my 2011 535i N55 regardless of how much hate they get
JDMSteven people love to hate on the n55 because they cant get over how much more reliable it is than the n54, even though the n54 is alot more tuner friendly the n55 is alot more stronger and a hell lot more reliable
@@andeleputo89 you got your story all twisted little guy try that again n54 is stronger engine not n55 is more reliable then n54 do I have to teach you more just let me know
dala bu lol get off your high horse and accept the facts. Ask any bmw mechanic hell ask anyone on the forums and they tell you the same thing, n55 is literally the reliable version of a n54 especially since its a single big twin scroll turbo as opposed to the twinturbo n54 hence it being more easily prone to fail. We get it your 335i is in the shop often. But the n54 does have the edge in aftermarket upgrades and big power gains though
@@andeleputo89 BMW mechanics are called technicians they only service cars
The look Zach gives the camera at 3:44 when the owner says “limited edition” is absolutely priceless.
The “is” really a worthy upgrade
Such a badass car! Love those DCT pops on every upshift!
"I'm going to work"
"NO, I'M GOING TO WORK"
(vtec kicks in)
Vtec, for people that want to get to work quickly.
Vtec is in everything its just hondas fancy term for variable valve timing. If you truly wanna get to work fast just drift long enough to fill your boost gage
hairychesticles1 V-tec isn’t just VVT like most modern cars have lol, the cam profiles on, say, a k20z are FAR different then some economy car lol, go wind a k20 out to 9000 rpm and get back to me, the higher you wind them the harder they pull. I drive a Mazda Speed6 btw, not a civic. I used to be a hater til I drove one, the performance Honda 4 bangers are some of the most capable on the planet and will crap on just about any other 4 banger when it comes to performance per $ spent
@@sleeper.simulant7327 the civics are nice and i dont hate them. I think recently when it comes to style honda has been on point though i do think the type R is a bit to flashy for me but when i comes to bang for buck i prefer my used scat pack. I had a newer civic si race me once and eventhough i smoked him i will say that the 1.5L engine it had was P good. The dang thing went. I like the way the si looks way more then the type R. But for 30k you cant rly beat havin 485hp and if i was gonna get a hot hatch my choice would be the golf R but the used ones were allot of money
VTEC is lift and timing, just like Toyota VVTLi, Nissan VVL which is only lift no timing
Super interesting proposition. An M car will always be better out of the box, but the 335is’ are nothing to sneeze at and this one is clearly well set up.
Kellin Patler 335i with a tune rapes the E92 m3 but the M3 is a better track car
that's the thing....in a straight line, sure a tuned 335i is quicker, but I drive on winding northern CA roads (like the canyons) and I'd prefer the track focus of a M3.
smgs921 or you can just swap all the 335i suspension parts from the m3 and have a track m3 killer
yes sir it wont be a m3 killer when it goes into limp mode after the 2nd lap. I own a 335i so dont take it as shit talking. However the m3 is and always will be the preferred track option. N54 normal operating temp is around 240 degrees and they just cant handle the constant heat from track use like the S65 can.
smgs921 did your car come with the stock oil cooler ? I’ve never ran into limp mode over temps . I’ve ran multiple consecutive laps at circuit of the americas and grand sport speedway and peaked at 260f .
Budget Jonny Knoxville is a little over bearing at times..
Colin Smith he’s like me if you like something you know every little detail and love to share. I try to be conscious of it though.
Budget Ryan Reynolds xD he just isn't a seasoned car guy. Ruined it for me too
Best sounding 35 I´ve ever heard.
Just to clear a few things up, the 335is comes with a little more than what the owner stated - the MPPK (M-Performance Power Kit) basically comes with upgraded intakes, exhaust, and some extra tuning to allow it to hit the advertised numbers and have that overboost setting. Also, it does come with a Limited Slip Differential (it was one of the biggest selling points for enthusiasts considering the "regular" E92's only had a electronically controlled open differential). Just because I'm an F30 guy and wanted to clear this up, the chassis code for the M3 for 2015+ is the F80.
No you're mistaken, no LSD.
M3, nothing beats that high revving v8! But if you wanted to make big power sure go for a 335i
I own a single turbo swapped e92 335i w/ the n54, and I also own an e92 M3. Hands down, I prefer the M3 in every way. Once you experience the characteristics specific to the M3 (throttle response, high revving v8, steering rack, ability to fit 275's and larger in the front), you will understand why - and no, I could care less that the n54 has much more torque earlier in the RPM band. Long live the last true M car, the e92 M3. \m/(oo)\m/
Been saying that for a while the e92 m3 is just balance and precision with no mods
Do you daily the 335i?
E60 M5 really
@@danielhernandez7200 Deep pockets also with cash coming out of your kazoo for maintenance.
Btw, this is a car video. Who the FK cares about how the owner looks? Go watch man model vids if that is what u r looking for.
I didn’t see anyone talking about how he looks.
The mouth noises on the other hand.
I'm really into Japanese cars, but a nice BMW 335I with that inline 6, love it!!
Dope to see a 335is on here! Reppin my dad’s car
Still has an ///M shirt on though...all kidding aside this is a great build.
@thesmokingtire What's with the reverb when you guys are talking?
The left/right Audio channels sound off
Rear control arm bushings and a lsd and it’s perfect! Me want!
I just ran across an 11 335is today. Some great info here!
Wish me luck!
less than a year ago I paid $18k for my ‘11 335is Coupe Full stock with it all the top end M performance and M trim options..., and it included a Cobb tuner (don’t laugh). Mods I added include CAI, Catless downpipes, a 5.5” intercooler, 2x colder plug and coils. I run 93 octane and add Lucas 3x booster. With the stage 2 93 Cobb tune I get 19.5 lbs of boost and 592 torque. Next mod lsd and M3 upper and lower control arms. Good luck to you. I love mine
Almost picked up a 335is, ended up getting a G37 the N54 motors require so much regular maintenance to keep them on the road and the one I was
looking at was not well kept.
Really? 3 years of ownership on my IS and nothing but regular maintenance.
I never said they were un-reliable I said they required a lot of regular maintenance, if you stay on top of them they are reliable and rarely will give you any issues
but that maintenance is frequent and not cheap.... At least when compared to a G37.
Belts, Air filter and spark plugs is pretty much all that is required after 80K miles, which is sadly not the case with the 335is.
Awesome car I’m ordering the M3 control arms myself for my 335i sedan.
That sway you feel from the backend is not a bushing issue it comes from the ediff when traction control is on. Turn it off and it's gone!
I'm almost positive it's from his trailing arm bushings. Traction control has nothing to do with the differential.
4:33 Faaking hilarious!
Guest: tuned by Pure Evil
Zack: They also have lovely daycare...
hhahahahha was a good one
I just sold my 335is last week. Now that it wasn't a great car but it just didn't have that special feel of an M car. You can make stupid power but it just didn't steal my heart. It really was a pre M4 for it's time.
Yep I feel the same. At least M440i
Hell of a build. This guy is a beauty! Great one take
Zack : woah BMW concept car
Chris : concept car
Zack : Supra
Chris : Supra
Lol wtf
Definitely thought that plate said “Death Row” at first glance, which would’ve been G as fuck lol. Badass ride either way tho
Wow never knew the potential of these. Good video, guys
Pure Turbos really knows what they are doing. The best quality and reliability when it comes to BMW turbo upgrades.
RavTokomi wrong
@@i_read_bad_reviews Who is supposedly better?
soldierviejo PTE is better with a top mount manifold :)
cant stand the noises hes making with his mouth ;[ sweeet car tho
Came looking for this comment Jesus fuck so annoying
HAHAHA. Yes yes.
Those seats in your fox body are badass sir! Nice fabric choice.
this makes me feel good about my recent 335i purchase
How has it been so far? And did you get the n54 or n55?
TUNE IT
i own a e93 M3 12, and ive raced these 335is and to be honest they are quick... i notice the turbo cars pick up well, i can stay with them in a M3 DCT but on top end the M3 blows them away....
Also factor for me the M3 is now iconic car and i wanted something nice in all departments.... i notice when i pull up to lights people see the M3 and give much respect, doesnt matter whats next to me.... Porsche, Camaro, Corvette, Charger, Challenger, AMG and RS's... they see her, M3 in black with full black windows and looks so agressive , they know hes got power and handling , they dont even test me, and ones that are testing they find out i can keep up and start to gain on them and pass them....
BMW make fantastically looking cars and they drive well in all departments... that M button pressed, total animal she becomes... and the balance, brakes the power band of the V8, steering so driveable... if you want a complete car get a full on M car... its on another level compared to others.. AMG is mostly all engine, RS's are mostly 4 wheel drive implementation, M cars are truely ultimate driving machines... as they say...thats my 2cents...
Didnt have a 335is ..had a 335i FBO manual N54, love my slow M3 way more.
its not an M3 lmfao
those had N/A engines and much more aggressive overall setups using even higher quality parts than the standard range.....
if you didn't BUY an m3 you don't OWN an m3, you own a pimped up 335i.......
Love my e92 m3 over my e92 335i as well.
I am thoroughly impressed. Fantastic build
this dude sounds chill asf
First thing I did on mine was full poly subframe bushings
He has real bad clicky drymouth going on 😂
N54 also has variable valve timing...
Damn, this makes me miss mine. Absolutely loved it, long highway trips or B-road shenanigans. Same DCT setup too. Thank you for the video, brings back memories.
People dont understand what the is designation really is...the 35is is much different out of the box than the 35i...stock the suspension is a bit lower as well as much stiffer...the n54 is a twin turbo and the dual clutch is a standard option...the car comes with bigger and lighter wheels and upgraded sway bars/ strut braces etc....the IS is much different than a 35i and much closer to an M car by todays standards...ive driven an e92 m3 and 335is...the 335is feels quicker tbh in all aspects...and i own a z4 35is(;
I also own a Z4 35i and I'm curious about how your 35is e89 compared to the 335is ?
I had an 08 e90 335i, I loved that car.
Nice n54 I hated mine but if you can keep it running they're great
Damn. Now I have to get a 335is. Too bad the clean ones (manual) are in the high 20s.
Zack, I liked the way Matt used to begin the drive before they started getting into what's done to the car. I'd rather watch you drive while listening to the conversation.
He usually did some initial info up front, but sometimes owners go a bit long. I'll work on it in the future. ZK
What a friggn dope build
6:18 for those aged 14 and under.
quwers oh yeah well I’m 93 and I only watched the first 6:18 than stopped watching
I'm a fetus. I watched until 6:17 then stopped watching
@Your_College_Loans You matured really fast in those 3 days..
someone give this man some water
PLZ
He’s a meth user..
😂😩😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bro on god i cant stop laughin
Seems like he nose a lot about the car
I see what you did there
Brendan Edwards 😂😂😂😂
Lol
That comment about the Accord and the Camry coming down the mtn. I fucking died. Im guilty of being the one who's GOING to work. Lol
I would like to know what the reliability on this is. Seems like a great build though.
Welcome To The Madness 15:04
I have a fbo 335is dct ..only had one water pump replace and no other problems in 2 plus years
@@dustinbyrd832 knock on wood. So far so good for me too. Do regular maintenance... plus with the DTC I highly suggest changing transmission fluid and filter at about 70-80k miles.
pure evil tuning does a great job! i personally own a e90 FBO e85 M3 but if i would of gotten a 335i i would of gotten it tuned by the best @Pure_evil_tuning
Thats Great build! I was thinking of GTI build too now i need BMW i do like a good Dual clutch gearbox. 🇨🇦
Beautifully done build!!!
Omg that EXHAUST DRONE
I thought there was going to be a comparison? Where's the tuned M3? Anyway I see a lot of chatting about the differences and they are many. I was glad to hear him say "With this set up you get a fast GT car" and that's what it comes down to. I had a 2008 335i with the bolt ons and tune and it was very quick in a straight line. (390+ HP and 412 torque). But I wasn't happy with just that. When I was trying to maneuver through traffic (not like a douche just everyday stuff) I would want to get out of a lane and step on it but then it would be 1 second 2second and TOO LATE. Then in corners I felt like I was still driving my dad's car instead of a sports car. Soooo I sold it and bought an E46 M3. Now driving is what MY limits are about. Not the car letting me down with it's limits. It does what I tell it to when I tell it to do it and I can carve the corners like I'm wearing a sports car suit. It's not as fast in a straight line (Maybe .5 of a second difference). But I enjoy driving so much more. LOVE THE LSD TOO! Mind you this video makes me think about having both LOL. But hey couldn't a guy get a M235i and just go nuts on it with doing a build and come out with a killer in all areas? Or is the N55 just not doable like that?
Nice. I would've liked to Know how much milage the car had when he bought it, I've been looking at these also, a lot have high miles.
Great car man! Thanks for showing it!
WHAT. A. SOUND!!
Thank youuuu been waiting for this 😍😍😍
Dudes arms looked jacked during the handshake
its hard as hell to find the 135 and 335 IS models. n54 + dual clutch is the true unicorn. Some people say they didnt have time to use the n55 on the is so that why they used the "old" n54. Wish I could find a good priced IS.
I’ll take the high revving V8 please 🥃
check out my M3 :)
My kinda car guy... Builds the underdog. I raced an is in my 330ci once. Was closer than I would have thought. You ask me the 3 liters need twin 30's thats 1.5 liter a piece with double the overhead. As long as the head is arp'd and torqued to like 90+lbft should hold for 30lbs right? Ansys says we're good. 1.2deg max camber for street. Bmw has it like that from factory cause anti squat.
Sold my 2008 335i a few weeks ago because the repair bills got to me so much. I will miss that car though
Glorious i6 sounds.
E92- M3 all the way, the I6 doesn't come close in sound to that V8 revving to its 8.5k rpm red line
At the end of the day a simple fbo 335i would still demolished . Loud or not , 8.5k rev or not lol
The sound is great, but the low torque combined with heavy weight makes them kinda slow by today's performance standards. I kept up with one in my mildly tuned '18 Civic Si ..Pretty sure they forgot to downshift lol
Conekillah That's nice. The M3 is still the one getting all the pussy while 335 goes home bragging to his dudebros.
Jokes aside, both are great cars. I'm fully aware the 335 can be much faster in a straight line, but I couldn't care less. The difference between a regular 3 series and an ///M is not just power, it's a combination of a lot of things that makes an ///M car an ///M car. I had a 600whp Evo X that was eating R8s and lambos for breakfast. Been there, done that. But nowadays I also realize the R8 and lambo drivers don't care. You sit in either one of those and if you don't say "Damn, this is a nice car," you're not an enthusiast.
ive raced a couple FBO 335i and still won with my FBO E85 M3 :) and at the end of the day im not changing my spark plugs every week or so
@@ruskeee who cares if it's kinda slow? I don't race, I just want a cool fun car.
is at least on the 135 also got a bigger radiator fan, and a sticker telling you to change your spark plugs at closer intervals
soooo cant not wait to get me a E92!!!
That’s a generous offer Matt, wish you luck .
I would buy the fox body, but I don't hate pedestrians that much
He put IRS in it lol
just a question: if I put M3 arms, steering rack, poly bushings, upgraded brakes, wider tyres and an limited slip diff on a 335i, it should handle like an m3 and be as fast in the corners, right?
They put all those on a 135i and called it a 1M... can you think of any other era of bmw like that?
Hahahaha, love the torch on the bar in the background of the promo in the intro. Matt Farah, I wonder how much time you've spent staring at the movement through the display back of one of your watches after a really good dab :P
Speaking of, while it's sad to see the Fox Body go, love the idea of auctioning it off for charity, and that shirt is great. I hope the results of the auction are fantastic, and that the car goes to a wonderful owner that truly appreciates the car, and how much work and love you've put into it for years to come.
Nice build!
Extraordinary build though
This dudes seen some meth pipes in his past..
And still ended up successfully enough to afford and mod an iS. Fun life
😭😭🤣🤣
kinda makes me want a 335is... still leaning cts-v though. hard to beat a v8 sound... and reliability
Andrew Marasek get the cts v for big power . They are just to expensive. Even the old gen is 15-20ish
I have a 11 335i and I’m dead stock can’t wait to tune I have a few ideas....
This guy straight up said BIMMER FEST 😭😭
Do I see the LT4 swapped Silversdo?
I have several questions about that slammed C10 Squarebody.
This has given me many ideas for my 335is now…
14:36 cheaper than e46? maybe i missed something but arean't e46 cheaper than 335i? for the most part
That guy has a had a need for speed in more than one regard I'm guessing.....
I love my 335i best car ive ever had. I plan to go single top mount in the next 3-6months
I own a 335is nd love it
I recently replaced my totaled ‘11 e92 335is with a ‘11 e92 m3. I always wanted an e92 m3....I’m looking to sell my m3 for another IS ASAP.
Why do you want to go back?
Please tell us why you want to go back to an IS.
Kelvin probably because of the low end torque. The M3 feels slow af below 5k rpm. For everyday driving this is a much better car.
*Some of the 335 vs m3 comments are hilarious*
Got me thinking about camber plates for my 335i. I got m3 front control arms and heard they add a little more camber but haven’t installed yet.
ZACK - Please drive an SINGLE turbo e92 N54. Preferably one with a Doc Race 6266 on it.
“Oh yeah....woah.....(holy shit let me drive the car).”
I used to lust after a 335i, they look great and are fast.
Keep the vids coming love it!!!!
What size tires you have on it? Did you need to adjust the suspension to accommodate larger tires?
Front 255x35x19
Rear 275x30x19
Just added a little camber up front.
Gti wasnt a great platform? Wdf
It's a good platform for mid-level performance, but if you want something crazy that can dance? Then yeah
not the best option, that said GTI are a blast regardless if they are stock or moded.
Drove a G37, 335is and a GTI back to back when I was picking cars and in pure stock form the GTI was actually the funnest.
Got worried after it started blowing blue smoke out of the exhaust though. lol
David Ha lol 400 hp GTI, good luck with the torque steer into on coming traffic lol the car can’t put the power down and it’s fwd which is boring
Wasiu Adeyeye - A lot of GTI's out there are making 300+ HP.... isn't it amazing what some suspension tweaks and some stiffer motor mounts can do for a FWD car? Oh not to mention keeping a firm hand on the wheel.
Also more weight over the front tires which are driving the car means it's easier to put the power down, clearly you've never driven a well setup FWD car with some power before.
Gti is good for 350 . Pretty much entry level
I daily a Golf R. AWD for the win! As for this video, M3 for me. I don’t care if it’s slower then a modded 335i, heck my daily I just mentioned is faster then a M3. But me choosing the M3 over the 335i is an emotional decision. The V8 is so worth it, the sound, the revs, the special feeling.
I thought Matt said like a year ago he wasn't going to do these anymore?
"F30 M3 BRAKES" umm suspicious guy
Why are you getting rid of it? The foxbody that is.