If this is a NBC shelter you need a decontamination area at the main entrance/exit. This is to ensure no contaminants get into the clean area of the shelter. Showers will be required in this area as well as 2 separate areas to keep contaminated clothing and clean clothing for shelter wear.
Him and his family, should have entered the shelter well BEFORE a bomb drops. Afterward, it's too late for anyone in the family, no matter how many showers you take. Radiation poisoning, happens the second the bomb detonates. The gamma radiation, as well as x-rays, will fry you almost instantly, and if that doesn't kill you, then you must be made of lead.
Great setup! You thought of just about everything! The only thing I would add, is a longer escape exit, like a 40-50 foot long tunnel, doesn't have to be big, just enough to either crawl or duck walk, and I would either plant a whole bunch of stuff on top of this shelter, so it is covered. And also, stick several "decoy" white things out of the ground, so if someone did see/find it and pull it out, it will look like nothing, so if you have 3 or 5 scattered around, it wouldn't look to suspicious as one white pipe sticking out of a plain field.
We have a fallout shelter under our basement , roof of the shelter is a 5 ft thick reinforced basement floor , shelter has running water from a reservoir in the basement , we have a 5kw propane fired generator outdoors in a block house & a back up 3kw diesel generator in the basement & 500 gallons of diesel fuel storage , ours was built by my father when he built the home in 1972 , our basement supports for the main floor of the home are triple redundant to avoid collapse of the main floor causing main entrance blockage . The 1 nit pick I have with ALL metal underground shelters is the complete lack of long term waterproofing , those light coatings will not protect the metal past 10 yrs or so & the structure will rust out , for a few bucks , most likely under $5,000 you could have a 50 year rubberized asphalt waterproofing system wrapped completely around the shelter , along with a layer of protective insulation & scrum sheet to keep rocks , soil & debris from penetrating the waterproofing system & allowing moisture to touch metal . We lucky in that my father applied a coal tar pitch waterproofing system to the bunker along with a dual redundant drainage system seperate from the homes drainage system , we have a back up sump pump that can be hand cranked incase both drainage systems fail , long term water issues are rarely addressed in these videos , if your gonna make this kind of investment you want it to be in perfect shape 50 yrs from now & a selling point of the home , collapsed & damaged shelters detract much value from the homes .
Kyler Blake Taylor All metal buried below grade rusts out , period , all that can be done to stop the corrosion process is to make sure zero moisture comes in contact with the metal , below grade steel is only as good as its protective coating , your uncle might own the company & build great stuff but that does not change the laws of physics , or below grade waterproofing needs .
Y'know what? As a fallout shelter it may suck, agreed. But I want one of these underneath my house, with the entrance underneath a sofa so that nobody knows it's there. My own little hidden heaven!
6 ft of dirt wld help block radiation, outside the blast radius. It is the mass which stops the falling radiation, people stuck in certain areas would be pilling things the create mass above and around them inside their homes. This shelter clearly would help alot in the areas outside the blast radius.
You should paint with more vibrant colors. If the needs comes to it and you need to use it living arrangements will feed more livable. If your in there for weeks on end a good color pellet with destress and calm you down, plus make the space fell bigger (psychologists have tested how color affect human behaviour and it does actually works). Just one thing to consider
The fallout shelter will be buried 6 feet deep, in the unlikely event that a need to ventilate the shelter arrises, those slider vents would be opened, A properly designed Shelter is under slight positive pressure(higher pressure inside the shelter than outside aka topside), once vents are opened air would rush out of the shelter(like a busting balloon) this prevents any NBC agent getting down into the shelter.
It seems some people don't know the difference between a "Fallout" shelter and a "Blast" shelter. The idea is good but the design flaws make it a metal coffin as a NBC shelter. It needs a sealed/closed ventliation system and CO2 scrubbers, and use battery power like a submarine. Any vents for drawing in air from outside needs to be properly screened and filtered to prevent contaminated particles from entering the shelter. And the shower is a waste of precious clean drinking water.
I understand filters could be used. I would assume they're military grade, super-sealed bio AND nuclear fallout filters. The slider vent door did not look like a sealed pressure door looking apparatus. He slid open the door and daylight was visible.
the escape hatch is bolted shut and filled in with sand. so when you open the hatch it cracks your face open and dumps 300 pounds of sand on top of you. perfect.
I should also point out, that alpha particles can be extremely dangerous if they somehow get inside your body, but that is highly unlikely since alpha particles can only travel a few cm before getting absorbed back into the atmosphere as helium, and is stopped by pretty much any kind of shielding.
Mitch, Not enough time to get into shelter? Just buy my new improved 2012 body bag. See you just wear it like a human air bag so being tossed around like the michelin man is harmless. haha. Beats hauling a shelter around with you. Best thing to live is to be far enough from big cities to be able to get to the shelter before shockwave gets to you.
Well first if you did not have vents to the outside, you would soon die. Second you have a special filter system, which filters all NBC particles. Also there are blast valves on these vents to protect against over pressure.
I know how to get in, turn the generator off and plug the air holes, then they have to come out. No shelter is good unless you include manually operated air pipes that extend away from it so they can be hidden. And it should have light tubes to bring in free light.
oh yea and vent sliders for fresh air...fresh air is a rare commodity during any sort of NBC scenario lol...might wanna duck tape and plastic that beyond air tight, leave your mask on and sleep under a tarp hahah...
funny how tv seems to be the number one concern rather than how sturdy and durable this thing is obviously you have some very strong doors sirs.. i think itd be good though to have an air filtration system for and chemicals, completely explosive proof ( not gonna do much good if a damn nuke goes off right near the shelter even if underground... id say continue upgrading and think of everything.. extra storage for food water and fuses...
You've got your shit backwards. From the Duke university page on radioactivity: "The third, and most powerful form of radiation, is gamma radiation. Unlike alpha or beta rays, gamma rays have no electrical charge. This type of radiation is by far the most dangerous. Gamma rays may pass completely through the human body." and "Because alpha particles are relatively large, they have little power to penetrate objects, and are not considered to be very harmful."
I was thinking the same thing. You would also need some kind of decon system at the entrance in case you are late getting in or simply need to go outside for something. I agree on the shower. Though, if they placed it at the entrance it might work as a low end decon system...but not something you would want to use just because you are starting to smell. Bottom line, this would be nice for tornadoes...lol. However, in an nbc environment it would only help you survive the initial blast...maybe.
@ 8:27 you might want to check that weld in the wall. Light is coming through! If light is shining through, so will other hazardous things. You're welcome.
@drummerjdb Can we see what you have? I'm sure it must be something really super great with all your comments you made. Unless it takes a direct hit the steel won't melt around you and it will be protected from gamma with the 5 foot of dirt over it. I believe it will also have the filters needed for air in the piping leading out of the ground. It is a very good start for "instant shelter" that can be had quickly.
Very neat. Looks like a good general purpose solution. I currently live in the path that fallout will travel from the western areas of the US. Also, a nuclear exchange in Korea in or middle east might reach my home (over time). It would also solve my tornado concerns too. I am currently evaluating different types of shelters and might give your company a call soon.
@cszuch25 Actually that depends on how close the shelter is to the point of detonation. I believe this shelter is designed to go underneath the ground so this should not be a problem.
so just smash and clog up the air feed into the shelter and sit at the hach and wait a few days either they come out or run out of air and everyone is dead.
If fallout is raining down, how are you going wait outside for a few days and wait for this guy? You would be dead! Unless you had a radioactive suit and a self contained breathing apparatus that can supply oxygen for 72 hours, good luck, because most only supply 1 hour, 2 hours tops, and you're gonna wait for them for what? Is it really worth it?
+Doomsday Lone Wolf yea well the fallout would only last a few days and that is if it was a nuclear attack. what if the government fell or society collapsed smart ass.
Reaper 18951 Thats why you should have an air scrubber. Cleans the co2 out of the air and you dont need the vents. Also a second escape hatch hidden so you can shoot the sumbitch who clogged your vent.
Bit pointless having a fallout shelter that has a generator that you have to access by getting out of the shelter. Not seeing an air filtration system either
I was thinking about installing a 400 square foot underground shipping container about 10 feet underground. About how much would this cost? I’m really looking to use this area as a root cellar and tornado shelter, and living in it while Zi build my tiny home
Nice investment man I would have a bunker if I could afford it. think about a bug out plan and weapons and ammo would be the new currency in the anarchy food and water seed arch. it is an expensive hobby prepping. good luck to you and your project.
If you bury this kind of shelter, radioactive rainwater will still seep through the surrounding Earth and the steel walls won't provide meaningful protection from gamma rays. A brick or stone built house may provide more protection. Do you have some means of keeping the radioactive water away from the surrounding Earth? Perhaps a waterproof coat holding at least two feet of Earth all around it? If not, it's fallout protection may be somewhat exaggerated in my opinion, not that I have better...
+Simon Goater Radioactivity from a nuclear blast is in particle form that will be airborne and carry with the wind. Rain will capture it and bring it to the earth. The water itself won't be radioactive, but the particles it carries will be. As the water soaks into the earth, that radioactivity will be captured in the top inch or two of soil.. Pollution from a reactor accident is a bit different in that there are some radioisotopes that are water soluble such as Tritium (I think, don't quote me on it) that could potentially penetrate into soils enough to pose a risk. The best thing would be to put a geo membrane over the entire shelter after it is buried in a dome shape to divert water well away from the shelter. In fact, this is a great idea as these shelters are made of steel and keeping the water away will keep it from corroding. I think some cathodic protection is also warranted with the steel shelters.
+Eric Mattinen Thanks for the response. I agree that insoluble fallout won't penetrate, but the real danger from fallout, particularly from a ground burst, is the spectrum of neutron activated radioactive isotopes it creates, many of which probably will be water soluble. Iodine, Strontium, and Caesium are all water soluble for example, I think. Personally, if I were buying an underground fallout shelter, I would not want to assume that groundwater was not radioactive.
just 5 ft under ? hell a grave is deeper than that. What about the filter and scrubbers for the air, what about re-bar reinforced concrete around it ? what about a decontamination chamber ?
@K9GSD112 1) the movie shows clearly that the door is not one inch thick 2) the vent is attached to an air tube that goes to the surface. think before you comment artard
you sure those joints connecting the rooms together are strong enough? If there is earthquakes or even a nuclear blast, there will be a lot of ground disturbance and large shelters like that may crack or break along those areas.
I really don't think it is meant to take a dirrect missile hit. Most people build these to protect their family from the homeless that would kill you for your food and water. The nuclear threat would not last that long if bunker in stratigically placed in the right area of the country. Diesel fuel? Most bunkers have an underground fuel storage tanks with enough fuel to last two years or more, you only run the generator to charge batteries usually so fuel would last a long time.
how to make this awesome: bury it deep underground, buy the required chemical/biological/nuclear warfare suits, store years worth of canned supplies (well sealed vitamin/mineral pills, radiation pills, and vitamin D pills should be included) seal with special sealant, and surround in reinforced concrete.
radioactive material is at a subatomic level.. why do you think they use thick lead etc since most people can't build or mostly afford military grade things like very thick lead walls then your best bet is to put the most distance between you and ambiant air on the surface.. not saying this is full proof either but deeper is safer and the most effective is not extensive digging but actually digging into the side of a mountain. also foods like seaweed are good at absorbing radiactive isotopes..
At the 7:21 mark why would have a non sealed slider vent to let in fresh air? If there was nuclear fallout and you opened this on a windy day guess what, there would be nuclear fallout in your fallout safe shelter. You might want to rethink a few of your designs and get rid of a few things like this.
In 2012. What if you survive the initial blast but a few days later nuclear gases start to breach the foundation. Will customer service come out to do the repairs? Better yet will customer service answer the phones? Is there a return policy if nothing happens? Lol. I will stick with my gas mask, nuclear suit, bullet proof vest, Glock 30 sf, assault rifle, hand made samurai sword, and my 60 day supply of dehydrated food, water, and bible. We will see what happens.
Needs to be deeper. I wouldn't mind having one. They make these so expensive. I think this would be perfect for a fallout from debris or volcanic ash. A catastrophe that could possibly be imenant in our lifetime. I think having one would be better than not having one.
I'm not concerned about the vent. I have no doubt that he's got a way to seal that vent if he needs to. I am however concerned about the lack of security. It's not very discreet.
Interesting. What's the underground "shelf life?" Rustproofing? Waterproofing? What about fire? Fires in these things are bad. Do I have to go outside to fill / maintain the generator? AC will be needed to get rid of humidity & heat from appliances (14KW of heat + all the people). Seems to dependent on the gen for air, water (sewer), light. Are there alternates for these? What about frame deformation on the big doors?
May not be full on apocalyptic war, might just be a failure of your local nuclear plant. If your local news told you a plant had failed for some reason and to take shelter underground for at least fifteen days - you could survive that. But not if you're completely unprepared.
Wouldn't you want to go deeper in the earth to escape the heat if a nuke goes off? The water would put off heat in the room? I did not see any insulation around it to keep the heat in and from letting heat out in the room
Does this shelter not have an air filtration system? Or did I just miss it somewhere? If it doesn't have a filtration system then it would only be useful as a storm shelter, not a survival/fallout shelter.
in case a tree or car falls on the shelter you can escape?? and then do what?...besides if a tree or car falling on it is enough to cause an escape - how is it going to protect you from any sort of nuclear blast? Ultimately it is a good idea but you should have put it under at least 12 ft of dirt with a lead liner on top to prevent radiation.
Needs to be deeper least 6feat of cement around, and 16feet of dirt to make it fallout safe, and you need to blast door with rubber frame, to make it air thigh, just steal wont work, and your went need to be NBC filtered with a air over pressure. and the wents need to haw one way valves.
Robin George Wellstead Learn how to spell. You spelled most of the words in you're comment completely wrong. Spell like an adult. Not some fucking kindergartener!
ok if the thing is supposed to be underground, how the hell does bedroom 1 have a slide showing daylight coming in like a window rather then from above from a pipe? Yes i know during this filming it was above ground. But below, there would be no air access the way its shown here.
I don't understand the point of the outside vents if this thing is supposed to be a Nuclear Bio Chem shelter?? I saw him open a slider to the outside from one of the sleeping bunk rooms.
Bizmo Humperdink Zombies rising from the dead is impossible. They would have to first bust through their casket that has 20 nails going through the lid and push up at least 6ft of dirt that would weigh a ton and dig out. Not to mention their bodies are nothing but dust.
@Deonuek Ok so i knew that there was a difference between a fallout shelter and a bomb shelter my question is which would be better to get. I always figured that if u live near a large city thats more likely to be bombed in a nuclear war you would want a bomb shelter but if u lived in the sticks you would want a fallout shelter. Am i correct in beleiving that or are there other factors?
why isnt this underground? if a shock wave hits this its gone... and u gotta undo bolts to get out? how long is that going to take? that vent in the bedroom is fail..
If this is a NBC shelter you need a decontamination area at the main entrance/exit. This is to ensure no contaminants get into the clean area of the shelter. Showers will be required in this area as well as 2 separate areas to keep contaminated clothing and clean clothing for shelter wear.
Him and his family, should have entered the shelter well BEFORE a bomb drops. Afterward, it's too late for anyone in the family, no matter how many showers you take. Radiation poisoning, happens the second the bomb detonates. The gamma radiation, as well as x-rays, will fry you almost instantly, and if that doesn't kill you, then you must be made of lead.
I like the "unpenetrable door", it goes great with the easily penetrated walls and air vents attackers could use to smoke you out.
Great setup! You thought of just about everything! The only thing I would add, is a longer escape exit, like a 40-50 foot long tunnel, doesn't have to be big, just enough to either crawl or duck walk, and I would either plant a whole bunch of stuff on top of this shelter, so it is covered. And also, stick several "decoy" white things out of the ground, so if someone did see/find it and pull it out, it will look like nothing, so if you have 3 or 5 scattered around, it wouldn't look to suspicious as one white pipe sticking out of a plain field.
We have a fallout shelter under our basement , roof of the shelter is a 5 ft thick reinforced basement floor , shelter has running water from a reservoir in the basement , we have a 5kw propane fired generator outdoors in a block house & a back up 3kw diesel generator in the basement & 500 gallons of diesel fuel storage , ours was built by my father when he built the home in 1972 , our basement supports for the main floor of the home are triple redundant to avoid collapse of the main floor causing main entrance blockage .
The 1 nit pick I have with ALL metal underground shelters is the complete lack of long term waterproofing , those light coatings will not protect the metal past 10 yrs or so & the structure will rust out , for a few bucks , most likely under $5,000 you could have a 50 year rubberized asphalt waterproofing system wrapped completely around the shelter , along with a layer of protective insulation & scrum sheet to keep rocks , soil & debris from penetrating the waterproofing system & allowing moisture to touch metal .
We lucky in that my father applied a coal tar pitch waterproofing system to the bunker along with a dual redundant drainage system seperate from the homes drainage system , we have a back up sump pump that can be hand cranked incase both drainage systems fail , long term water issues are rarely addressed in these videos , if your gonna make this kind of investment you want it to be in perfect shape 50 yrs from now & a selling point of the home , collapsed & damaged shelters detract much value from the homes .
My great uncle owns the company and will not rust out. They will out last the person buying and their kids no problem
Kyler Blake Taylor All metal buried below grade rusts out , period , all that can be done to stop the corrosion process is to make sure zero moisture comes in contact with the metal , below grade steel is only as good as its protective coating , your uncle might own the company & build great stuff but that does not change the laws of physics , or below grade waterproofing needs .
I agree. All those metal shelters from the 60`s are full of rust. Basement version with NBC ventilation is best.
Y'know what? As a fallout shelter it may suck, agreed.
But I want one of these underneath my house, with the entrance underneath a sofa so that nobody knows it's there. My own little hidden heaven!
is it just me, or is the blast door pointless with fresh air slide made out of sheet metal
you might as well leave the hatch open to Circulate the are easier
6 ft of dirt wld help block radiation, outside the blast radius. It is the mass which stops the falling radiation, people stuck in certain areas would be pilling things the create mass above and around them inside their homes. This shelter clearly would help alot in the areas outside the blast radius.
You should paint with more vibrant colors. If the needs comes to it and you need to use it living arrangements will feed more livable. If your in there for weeks on end a good color pellet with destress and calm you down, plus make the space fell bigger (psychologists have tested how color affect human behaviour and it does actually works). Just one thing to consider
Nathan
Its not fell. Its feel.
The fallout shelter will be buried 6 feet deep, in the unlikely event that a need to ventilate the shelter arrises, those slider vents would be opened, A properly designed Shelter is under slight positive pressure(higher pressure inside the shelter than outside aka topside), once vents are opened air would rush out of the shelter(like a busting balloon) this prevents any NBC agent getting down into the shelter.
It seems some people don't know the difference between a "Fallout" shelter and a "Blast" shelter.
The idea is good but the design flaws make it a metal coffin as a NBC shelter.
It needs a sealed/closed ventliation system and CO2 scrubbers, and use battery power like a submarine.
Any vents for drawing in air from outside needs to be properly screened and filtered to prevent contaminated particles from entering the shelter.
And the shower is a waste of precious clean drinking water.
I understand filters could be used. I would assume they're military grade, super-sealed bio AND nuclear fallout filters. The slider vent door did not look like a sealed pressure door looking apparatus. He slid open the door and daylight was visible.
the escape hatch is bolted shut and filled in with sand. so when you open the hatch it cracks your face open and dumps 300 pounds of sand on top of you. perfect.
Check out Atlas survival shelters. Much better design. A lot cheaper too
Looks great !you should have at least 3 feet of dirt between you and the outside world.
I should also point out, that alpha particles can be extremely dangerous if they somehow get inside your body, but that is highly unlikely since alpha particles can only travel a few cm before getting absorbed back into the atmosphere as helium, and is stopped by pretty much any kind of shielding.
Mitch, Not enough time to get into shelter? Just buy my new improved 2012 body bag. See you just wear it like a human air bag so being tossed around like the michelin man is harmless. haha. Beats hauling a shelter around with you.
Best thing to live is to be far enough from big cities to be able to get to the shelter before shockwave gets to you.
the bottle jack is gonna punch straight through that hatch, lol
Beautiful Shelter!
The price seems to be very reasonable.
When I build a house one day, I will consider installing a decent equipted shelter.
You could just re-enforce your single wide trailers, and put them under the ground. So its like you still living at home :)
Well first if you did not have vents to the outside, you would soon die.
Second you have a special filter system, which filters all NBC particles.
Also there are blast valves on these vents to protect against over pressure.
I know how to get in, turn the generator off and plug the air holes, then they have to come out. No shelter is good unless you include manually operated air pipes that extend away from it so they can be hidden. And it should have light tubes to bring in free light.
oh yea and vent sliders for fresh air...fresh air is a rare commodity during any sort of NBC scenario lol...might wanna duck tape and plastic that beyond air tight, leave your mask on and sleep under a tarp hahah...
looks like a few a few ship cargo holders welded together
Simplely put your air will run out if you don't circulate it. The idea is to filter out everything!
funny how tv seems to be the number one concern rather than how sturdy and durable this thing is obviously you have some very strong doors sirs.. i think itd be good though to have an air filtration system for and chemicals, completely explosive proof ( not gonna do much good if a damn nuke goes off right near the shelter even if underground... id say continue upgrading and think of everything.. extra storage for food water and fuses...
simplicity is better. the more complex your shelter the more things could go wrong and the more things you need to maintain.
one more year, well better get started on that shelter
You've got your shit backwards. From the Duke university page on radioactivity: "The third, and most powerful form of radiation, is gamma radiation. Unlike alpha or beta rays, gamma rays have no electrical charge. This type of radiation is by far the most dangerous. Gamma rays may pass completely through the human body." and "Because alpha particles are relatively large, they have little power to penetrate objects, and are not considered to be very harmful."
I was thinking the same thing. You would also need some kind of decon system at the entrance in case you are late getting in or simply need to go outside for something.
I agree on the shower. Though, if they placed it at the entrance it might work as a low end decon system...but not something you would want to use just because you are starting to smell.
Bottom line, this would be nice for tornadoes...lol. However, in an nbc environment it would only help you survive the initial blast...maybe.
@ 8:27 you might want to check that weld in the wall. Light is coming through! If light is shining through, so will other hazardous things. You're welcome.
@drummerjdb
Can we see what you have? I'm sure it must be something really super great with all your comments you made. Unless it takes a direct hit the steel won't melt around you and it will be protected from gamma with the 5 foot of dirt over it. I believe it will also have the filters needed for air in the piping leading out of the ground. It is a very good start for "instant shelter" that can be had quickly.
Very neat. Looks like a good general purpose solution. I currently live in the path that fallout will travel from the western areas of the US. Also, a nuclear exchange in Korea in or middle east might reach my home (over time). It would also solve my tornado concerns too. I am currently evaluating different types of shelters and might give your company a call soon.
@cszuch25 Actually that depends on how close the shelter is to the point of detonation. I believe this shelter is designed to go underneath the ground so this should not be a problem.
@MrOne2watch
the vent is for the air to keep the generator going. Its in a separate part of the shelter.
You have the exact same accent that a paster I knew had when I was a kid. Interesting bunker.
Thos is my uncles shop. All shelters are laid in enough cement to be able to sink it under water. All vents would have a filter
so just smash and clog up the air feed into the shelter and sit at the hach and wait a few days either they come out or run out of air and everyone is dead.
If fallout is raining down, how are you going wait outside for a few days and wait for this guy? You would be dead! Unless you had a radioactive suit and a self contained breathing apparatus that can supply oxygen for 72 hours, good luck, because most only supply 1 hour, 2 hours tops, and you're gonna wait for them for what? Is it really worth it?
+Doomsday Lone Wolf yea well the fallout would only last a few days and that is if it was a nuclear attack. what if the government fell or society collapsed smart ass.
Reaper 18951 Thats why you should have an air scrubber. Cleans the co2 out of the air and you dont need the vents. Also a second escape hatch hidden so you can shoot the sumbitch who clogged your vent.
Bit pointless having a fallout shelter that has a generator that you have to access by getting out of the shelter. Not seeing an air filtration system either
I was thinking about installing a 400 square foot underground shipping container about 10 feet underground. About how much would this cost? I’m really looking to use this area as a root cellar and tornado shelter, and living in it while Zi build my tiny home
Great product, and good video. I wouldnt mind having one of these myself.
That thing is an eyesore.
I'd honestly rather take the chance of neuclear war than having that in my backyard.
Sounds like the guy from family guy! But man, is that cool!
i like the smiley face on the shitter
Nice investment man I would have a bunker if I could afford it. think about a bug out plan and weapons and ammo would be the new currency in the anarchy food and water seed arch. it is an expensive hobby prepping. good luck to you and your project.
Love that Southern accent you got rocking!
If you bury this kind of shelter, radioactive rainwater will still seep through the surrounding Earth and the steel walls won't provide meaningful protection from gamma rays. A brick or stone built house may provide more protection. Do you have some means of keeping the radioactive water away from the surrounding Earth? Perhaps a waterproof coat holding at least two feet of Earth all around it? If not, it's fallout protection may be somewhat exaggerated in my opinion, not that I have better...
+Simon Goater Radioactivity from a nuclear blast is in particle form that will be airborne and carry with the wind. Rain will capture it and bring it to the earth. The water itself won't be radioactive, but the particles it carries will be. As the water soaks into the earth, that radioactivity will be captured in the top inch or two of soil..
Pollution from a reactor accident is a bit different in that there are some radioisotopes that are water soluble such as Tritium (I think, don't quote me on it) that could potentially penetrate into soils enough to pose a risk.
The best thing would be to put a geo membrane over the entire shelter after it is buried in a dome shape to divert water well away from the shelter. In fact, this is a great idea as these shelters are made of steel and keeping the water away will keep it from corroding. I think some cathodic protection is also warranted with the steel shelters.
+Eric Mattinen Thanks for the response. I agree that insoluble fallout won't penetrate, but the real danger from fallout, particularly from a ground burst, is the spectrum of neutron activated radioactive isotopes it creates, many of which probably will be water soluble. Iodine, Strontium, and Caesium are all water soluble for example, I think. Personally, if I were buying an underground fallout shelter, I would not want to assume that groundwater was not radioactive.
Simon Goater
2ft of dirt is all you need to survive gamma rays
just 5 ft under ? hell a grave is deeper than that. What about the filter and scrubbers for the air, what about re-bar reinforced concrete around it ? what about a decontamination chamber ?
Shit dood this bunker's so nice, I'd live in it.
@K9GSD112 1) the movie shows clearly that the door is not one inch thick
2) the vent is attached to an air tube that goes to the surface.
think before you comment artard
@Deonuek well you don't have to use concrete it may be possible to use Aerogel.
you sure those joints connecting the rooms together are strong enough? If there is earthquakes or even a nuclear blast, there will be a lot of ground disturbance and large shelters like that may crack or break along those areas.
I really don't think it is meant to take a dirrect missile hit. Most people build these to protect their family from the homeless that would kill you for your food and water. The nuclear threat would not last that long if bunker in stratigically placed in the right area of the country. Diesel fuel? Most bunkers have an underground fuel storage tanks with enough fuel to last two years or more, you only run the generator to charge batteries usually so fuel would last a long time.
how to make this awesome: bury it deep underground, buy the required chemical/biological/nuclear warfare suits, store years worth of canned supplies (well sealed vitamin/mineral pills, radiation pills, and vitamin D pills should be included) seal with special sealant, and surround in reinforced concrete.
radioactive material is at a subatomic level.. why do you think they use thick lead etc since most people can't build or mostly afford military grade things like very thick lead walls then your best bet is to put the most distance between you and ambiant air on the surface.. not saying this is full proof either but deeper is safer and the most effective is not extensive digging but actually digging into the side of a mountain. also foods like seaweed are good at absorbing radiactive isotopes..
@Habbrow94 It's still protect you better than paint, drywall, 2x4, fiberglass insulation, and plywood...
This should be in everyone gardens, can't be to careful
would be nice if it had a place to prepare food 2 14kw generators with the generator is a room attached to the shelter
At the 7:21 mark why would have a non sealed slider vent to let in fresh air? If there was nuclear fallout and you opened this on a windy day guess what, there would be nuclear fallout in your fallout safe shelter. You might want to rethink a few of your designs and get rid of a few things like this.
In 2012. What if you survive the initial blast but a few days later nuclear gases start to breach the foundation. Will customer service come out to do the repairs? Better yet will customer service answer the phones? Is there a return policy if nothing happens? Lol. I will stick with my gas mask, nuclear suit, bullet proof vest, Glock 30 sf, assault rifle, hand made samurai sword, and my 60 day supply of dehydrated food, water, and bible. We will see what happens.
Needs to be deeper. I wouldn't mind having one. They make these so expensive. I think this would be perfect for a fallout from debris or volcanic ash. A catastrophe that could possibly be imenant in our lifetime. I think having one would be better than not having one.
Ok, you said your air comes from outside. What about radiation??? Seems to me some kind of high dollar air system would be needed to stay truly safe.
So it's been 13 years now. How did installation go and are you still happy with it.
@HExProductionz I agree, but it would cost a fortune to maintain and what is the likihood it wold actually be used?
I'm not concerned about the vent. I have no doubt that he's got a way to seal that vent if he needs to. I am however concerned about the lack of security. It's not very discreet.
Buffalo Bill would have loved this!
very nice grave if it hits any where near.
Interesting. What's the underground "shelf life?" Rustproofing? Waterproofing? What about fire? Fires in these things are bad. Do I have to go outside to fill / maintain the generator? AC will be needed to get rid of humidity & heat from appliances (14KW of heat + all the people). Seems to dependent on the gen for air, water (sewer), light. Are there alternates for these? What about frame deformation on the big doors?
@K9GSD112 he also says that the facing is one inch plate steel so listen more carefully
May not be full on apocalyptic war, might just be a failure of your local nuclear plant. If your local news told you a plant had failed for some reason and to take shelter underground for at least fifteen days - you could survive that. But not if you're completely unprepared.
Wouldn't you want to go deeper in the earth to escape the heat if a nuke goes off? The water would put off heat in the room? I did not see any insulation around it to keep the heat in and from letting heat out in the room
Carpet is bad idea. Should have used rubber tile flooring. Why do you feel the need for this shelter?
thats a badass setup!!!!
This shelter will not work in a NBC scenerio. More like a giant tornado shelter
Does this shelter not have an air filtration system? Or did I just miss it somewhere? If it doesn't have a filtration system then it would only be useful as a storm shelter, not a survival/fallout shelter.
I wouldn't want a carpet in there. Gotta breathe in all that chemical off-gassing from it. Replace with rugs.
I need to get me one of these for 2012.
in case a tree or car falls on the shelter you can escape?? and then do what?...besides if a tree or car falling on it is enough to cause an escape - how is it going to protect you from any sort of nuclear blast? Ultimately it is a good idea but you should have put it under at least 12 ft of dirt with a lead liner on top to prevent radiation.
ok guys, let's get out the escape hatch, (opens hatch) (radioactive fallout floods the shelter because the hatch is facing straight up)
whats the point of having a 1inch thick steel blast door when the rest of the shelter is made of thin metal that could be easily cut?
Needs to be deeper least 6feat of cement around, and 16feet of dirt to make it fallout safe, and you need to blast door with rubber frame, to make it air thigh, just steal wont work, and your went need to be NBC filtered with a air over pressure. and the wents need to haw one way valves.
Robin George Wellstead
Learn how to spell. You spelled most of the words in you're comment completely wrong.
Spell like an adult. Not some fucking kindergartener!
Robin George Wellstead
Im in fucking special ed and i can spell better than you.
Un ova .. you're in special ed alright
ok if the thing is supposed to be underground, how the hell does bedroom 1 have a slide showing daylight coming in like a window rather then from above from a pipe? Yes i know during this filming it was above ground. But below, there would be no air access the way its shown here.
I don't understand the point of the outside vents if this thing is supposed to be a Nuclear Bio Chem shelter?? I saw him open a slider to the outside from one of the sleeping bunk rooms.
I have a security shelter system that a bunker buster bomb can not penetrate!
Zombies always find a way in.
Bizmo Humperdink
Zombies rising from the dead is impossible. They would have to first bust through their casket that has 20 nails going through the lid and push up at least 6ft of dirt that would weigh a ton and dig out.
Not to mention their bodies are nothing but dust.
A nuclear bomb can turn rock to dust it would servive if It was couple of miles away from the drop zone but direct hit no chance
it needs a lot of work. Air how are you getting clean air in and what filter
a nuclear fallout bunker with a 2 inch door and a small hole that radiation can get in
How is this an NBC shelter with filterless air exchanges in the bedroom and bathroom?
@OfficialGaminStation he said it will be 5 feet underground when installed. LISTEN
@Deonuek Ok so i knew that there was a difference between a fallout shelter and a bomb shelter my question is which would be better to get. I always figured that if u live near a large city thats more likely to be bombed in a nuclear war you would want a bomb shelter but if u lived in the sticks you would want a fallout shelter. Am i correct in beleiving that or are there other factors?
How many people would you say actually purchase an underground shelter and have it installed?
Lead paint? That would have been ingenious!
so do you think the trailer park approved of this going in? It looks better than the Trailer next to it. Might as well just move in.
Holy shit, does he know something we don't ?
its a fallout shelter not a bomb/blast shelter, it appears as though its meant to be buried
It's not the steel that offers the protection from radiation, it's the dirt it's buried under.
The most important part missing is a speaker system. While I pretend to talk to would-be intruders, I am going to flank them and snipe them.
why isnt this underground? if a shock wave hits this its gone... and u gotta undo bolts to get out? how long is that going to take? that vent in the bedroom is fail..
If you do not have them a medical condition called suffocation happens.
That steel won't completely protect you from radiation.