@@dominiquexo4772 your boyfriend is a dumbass. Most likely working his life away in the SeaOrg for less than minimum wage. They have a big problem with homeless people who have left Scientology.
@@unarmedduck What a fool, what was he thinking? Yeah being around a bunch of creepy and secretive "church" members will totally make his business boom on a friday night.
Clearwater resident here. Didn't realize Scientology was down here till a few months after I got here. Went to downtown clearwater a couple weeks ago, hasn't changed one bit from this video. Ghost town with no-one down there other than church members getting on/off busses, and maybe a couple homeless people. Weird place, there is a reason I avoid it.
When they say Scientology is a religion, would one of the members care to define how it is a religion and what it is the members believe in or worship. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
@Robert Hunt No mysterious believes, just made up gobledeegook, the story being Hubbard was looking for an easy way to pilfer money. Of course, genuine established religions need money to exist.
it received tax exempt "religion status" by pressuring and blackmailing the IRS - for the organisation that legal status is enough to claim they are a "religion". The problem isn"t so much in the beliefs or the stories, but in the fact that vindictiveness, paranoia, totalitarian power-hunger and a lot of other the really unpleasant and abusive character traits are baked into the doctrine. There is always backdoors open to "destroy someone utterly", label people "suppressuve persons" and "fair game" to abuse in whatever way desired - but also within the organisation there is an abusive "ethics" program that punishes sustaining doubts about the organisation with forced labor and family idsconnection. Alltogether the planet wouid be nicer if it could just be dissolved.
They own half the town? How is that not showing a desire to run things in the city? Call their bluff, and ask them to sell at least a quarter of their TAX EXEMPT properties. I have been on vacation once in Clearwater. I decided, after watching the HBO doc and conducting my own research, that I will not step foot there again. I don't know exactly what they own, and I feel like the revenue I spend goes to expanding their cult.
Never Retro as long as you stay on the beach side of the Memorial causeway and literally anywhere else in Pinellas County, you aren’t giving them a dime. Stay in St Pete Beach on your next trip, we’re a much more diverse community with far more options for food, drink, and entertainment, and just a few short miles south!
@@DaveWard-xc7vd Individuals who pay taxes and buy properties have a right to say how a town is run. A tax exempt church should have no say, nor should they be allowed to buy up businesses. They can have tax exempt land for their actual church or meeting place. Not restaurants and malls. They should pay taxes.
@@DaveWard-xc7vd What's the difference between a main business and a side business for a church that is tax exempt? Why shouldn't they all pay taxes on income, in the first place? Church-State Separation keeps the state safe from religions that want to practice mind control and destroy free speech. Once churches start owning businesses they start abusing their power and collude with politicians against the public - those people who actually DO pay taxes. How is it fair for a church owned business that gets customers using roads, and police enforcement - paid for with OTHER people's taxes, to NOT pay taxes, themselves?
Other than furrowed brow, who is probably a cultie, there is not one favourable comment about scientology. The cult probably wouldn`t even try as they realize how hated they are. Defending it is futile.
Do a story on the dude from s and where is his wife I believe its illegal to let people believe u have been kidnapped so where is this man's wife that his members say they believe shes died stop playing with new stories report the news get the difference
I’ll say this is absolutely humiliating that no one is standing up to this cult in this town instead all they care about is the money it’s time they started crusade to get the church of town
The problem isn't Scientology. The problem is that freehold ownership itself, regardless of who owns the land, is an inherently rivalrous institution, a civil war. Make these titles leasehold, pay the rent out to the residents of Clearwater, and two things are likely to happen: (1) Nobody will any longer care if the Church continues to own the land, because they're being compensated, and (2) The church is not likely to want to continue holding so much productive land idle, since doing so will cause them to perpetually bleed money.
, this one didn't age well for Scientology. They lost that fight and they lost the aquarium land. They tried to pay three times what it was worth to get it and the developer said NO! 🤣🤣🤣
just there today doing a video myself, have a great idea, I saw a lot of nice cars go into the garage, get their tag number and run them find out who THEY are and expose them, find out what business they work for let them know, just have to do about 10 others will get the word and not go being afraid to, My video did not turn out good so will go by there tomorrow and do another one
Good for you David.. at least your making attempts to clear the air ...science is important.. listening to the people of the area is important. I just hope that if the church continues it is with a freer approach to come and see what you are about without the enforcement that has seemingly been. This isn't just Scientology.. that's why I try and reiterate they are not the only church with these issues. I can see a lot of potential within Scientology if it's understood and clearly laid out what they are really about .. to have healthy relationship with the community definetly improves life for all involved. A willingness to make yourself accountable to the community and the leaders within governing bodies would certainly bring an ease I'm sure. To look at religious practices as a whole and the potential and very real threats and issues that can go with that I do believe is important.. To acknowledge that the past is what it is and while that can't be changed .. changes can be made to the future of the way things are run. I actually don't believe Hubbard was all bad. That is being honest about that. For it to be understood about the scientific community .. it needs to continually be addressed about what they are about.. getting the local community involved where possible to get excited and see the everyday benefits of science.. In such a place as this, social science, food science, environmental science, all have valid reasons to become excited about science because it can help improve and protect their environment.. Science is exciting.. it is everyday practical application that people don't neccesarily think about yet use it. For those who believe in God the acknowledgement of the benefits of science isn't a sin at all. If working with the Christian churches to show yes we care and are willing to use science to help prove or disprove any biblical statement or claims made outside of that could be very beneficial. Archaeology and historical analysis is important within history anyway but also for the Christian people or Jewish people. I wasn't lying when I said I do love science. I just don't always understand the jargon.. Showing how even in every day human interaction a scientific approach can help to address any issues because there had to be a biological reaction within interaction with another person. Science can help improve relationship and it can also help improve the sexual relationship when it's allowed to be discussed in a mature way. Both people in and out of churches can have difficulties in those areas. So long as it's willing participation and clearly stated what it's about.. what's expected on both sides, then it could be a very positive thing indeed. Personally I thank that I have been allowed to see the things I have and consider possiblity within that. That's why I am trying to be more respectful now because I have been allowed to have a right to speak freely. I don't believe I am an illogical person when treated with respect. I just don't like to be controlled.
Scientology isn't based on Science, but the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard, a chrismatic, larger than life, prolific science fiction writer who was highly controversial. Parishoners pay in the $100,000s to rid themselves of the ghosts of traumatised aliens dropped into volcanos by an evil alien emperor billions of years ago, which they believe gives them super powers to control minds, heal themselves, or even kill with just their minds. They think psychology is evil and behind such horrors as the holocaust, as they dismissed Hubbard's "breakthoughs" as nonsense, they don't believe in college education (since they have all the answers), have used child labor, and those who leave are cut off from all friends and family.
LOL, you're obviously a member specifically sent to address and champion this fucking cult of nutbags. By the way how much money have you pissed away in the past 5 years getting "clear"?
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The state of Florida needs to vote to declare them a cult, so they lose their tax credit.
How do I join them? My boyfriend is there and we haven’t see each other in 2 years 😩
@@dominiquexo4772 your boyfriend is a dumbass. Most likely working his life away in the SeaOrg for less than minimum wage. They have a big problem with homeless people who have left Scientology.
I know this was a year ago but hopefully you never joined them @@dominiquexo4772
When you make $20.00 a week your not going to spend it on a $6.00 glass of beer.
Clearwater could change its name to Scientology city
How’s is that possible $200 millions owned by a “church “? That’s absolutely insane
This is Jim Jones style cult . Things will come to a head soon .
NOT A CHURCH, #SCIENTOLOGY IS NOT A CHURCH
"I give it another year, I think it's gonna be booming down here." - How'd that work out for ya?
Check this out. It's the same dude just 5 month's later, and the COS are already stalking the guy. Lmao. /watch?v=LdsrjcQSDVA
@@unarmedduck What a fool, what was he thinking? Yeah being around a bunch of creepy and secretive "church" members will totally make his business boom on a friday night.
Clearwater resident here. Didn't realize Scientology was down here till a few months after I got here. Went to downtown clearwater a couple weeks ago, hasn't changed one bit from this video. Ghost town with no-one down there other than church members getting on/off busses, and maybe a couple homeless people. Weird place, there is a reason I avoid it.
These people my have murdered the leaders wife based on reported information
Basically
Ok where is IRS !!!!!
are you kidding me!!!
This is called racketeering. Isn't a a crime???
Only if you are Italian or some other minority.
When they say Scientology is a religion, would one of the members care to define how it is a religion and what it is the members believe in or worship. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
@Robert Hunt
No mysterious believes, just made up gobledeegook, the story being Hubbard was looking for an easy way to pilfer money. Of course, genuine established religions need money to exist.
it received tax exempt "religion status" by pressuring and blackmailing the IRS - for the organisation that legal status is enough to claim they are a "religion". The problem isn"t so much in the beliefs or the stories, but in the fact that vindictiveness, paranoia, totalitarian power-hunger and a lot of other the really unpleasant and abusive character traits are baked into the doctrine. There is always backdoors open to "destroy someone utterly", label people "suppressuve persons" and "fair game" to abuse in whatever way desired - but also within the organisation there is an abusive "ethics" program that punishes sustaining doubts about the organisation with forced labor and family idsconnection.
Alltogether the planet wouid be nicer if it could just be dissolved.
Owned by a cult....scary.
Hello Jonestown!
You couldn't give me a free trip to Clearwater
Look what happened to Clay after. He posted a live stream of Tom Cruise's apartment and was being spied on and put his house on the market
The apartment wasn’t even finished, it was still a construction site. It’s like Scientology wants to make enemies.
It's called boycotting Scientology. Have the spaceships bring in more people.
Misinformed? The Scientology crazies believe they will get on a spaceship and fly away. Sounds like Heaven's Gate. Sounds nuts to me.
They'll be cruising with Tom Cruse to hell's gate!
@Főfasírozó It's literally the foundation of the church
$cientology in two steps: 1) SUCK YOUR MONEY 2) SPIT YOU OUT
They own half the town? How is that not showing a desire to run things in the city? Call their bluff, and ask them to sell at least a quarter of their TAX EXEMPT properties.
I have been on vacation once in Clearwater. I decided, after watching the HBO doc and conducting my own research, that I will not step foot there again. I don't know exactly what they own, and I feel like the revenue I spend goes to expanding their cult.
Never Retro as long as you stay on the beach side of the Memorial causeway and literally anywhere else in Pinellas County, you aren’t giving them a dime. Stay in St Pete Beach on your next trip, we’re a much more diverse community with far more options for food, drink, and entertainment, and just a few short miles south!
Never Retro
They bought them they are the majority property holders they have every right to have their say about how the town is run.
@@DaveWard-xc7vd Individuals who pay taxes and buy properties have a right to say how a town is run. A tax exempt church should have no say, nor should they be allowed to buy up businesses. They can have tax exempt land for their actual church or meeting place. Not restaurants and malls. They should pay taxes.
@@randalglyph602
Do their side businesses have tax exempt status?
@@DaveWard-xc7vd What's the difference between a main business and a side business for a church that is tax exempt? Why shouldn't they all pay taxes on income, in the first place? Church-State Separation keeps the state safe from religions that want to practice mind control and destroy free speech. Once churches start owning businesses they start abusing their power and collude with politicians against the public - those people who actually DO pay taxes.
How is it fair for a church owned business that gets customers using roads, and police enforcement - paid for with OTHER people's taxes, to NOT pay taxes, themselves?
Mistake number one: believing Scientology.
SCIENTOLOGY NEEDS TO "GO CLEAR"..................OUT OF CLEARWATER !!!!!
When the LEADER OF SCIENTOLOGY PRODUCES HIS *MISSING WIFE OR HER BODY* Yep! •That happened! • We’ll know.
Yes! Where is Shelly?
This has aged well. The Lucky Anchor has closed.
Other than furrowed brow, who is probably a cultie, there is not one favourable comment about scientology. The cult probably wouldn`t even try as they realize how hated they are. Defending it is futile.
Do a story on the dude from s and where is his wife I believe its illegal to let people believe u have been kidnapped so where is this man's wife that his members say they believe shes died stop playing with new stories report the news get the difference
Could the state of Florida declare Eminent domain and get them out .
How in the hell can you call Scientology members parishioners? That’s an insult.
You can always count on the lamestream media to support this crazy gaggle of pinheads.
I’ll say this is absolutely humiliating that no one is standing up to this cult in this town instead all they care about is the money it’s time they started crusade to get the church of town
The problem isn't Scientology. The problem is that freehold ownership itself, regardless of who owns the land, is an inherently rivalrous institution, a civil war.
Make these titles leasehold, pay the rent out to the residents of Clearwater, and two things are likely to happen: (1) Nobody will any longer care if the Church continues to own the land, because they're being compensated, and (2) The church is not likely to want to continue holding so much productive land idle, since doing so will cause them to perpetually bleed money.
it were stupid enough to allow the cult tax exemption why shouldn't they take it ?
Is there an update on this meeting
Your going down Scientology!!!
They gotta have a few friends, in the government
Crazy cult
, this one didn't age well for Scientology. They lost that fight and they lost the aquarium land. They tried to pay three times what it was worth to get it and the developer said NO! 🤣🤣🤣
So now you can party or have stuff in downtown without any of these freaks around?
just there today doing a video myself, have a great idea, I saw a lot of nice cars go into the garage, get their tag number and run them find out who THEY are and expose them, find out what business they work for let them know, just have to do about 10 others will get the word and not go being afraid to, My video did not turn out good so will go by there tomorrow and do another one
They do want to take over and believe they already have
CULT....... END OF....🤔
And the Freemasons aren't?.... 🤣
when is david going to start mixing up all those Guyana gimlets ??
whats wrong i am from sweden and why we have fait to jesus its from middle east not from nordic contryes
Separation of church and state?
Good for you David.. at least your making attempts to clear the air ...science is important.. listening to the people of the area is important.
I just hope that if the church continues it is with a freer approach to come and see what you are about without the enforcement that has seemingly been. This isn't just Scientology.. that's why I try and reiterate they are not the only church with these issues.
I can see a lot of potential within Scientology if it's understood and clearly laid out what they are really about .. to have healthy relationship with the community definetly improves life for all involved.
A willingness to make yourself accountable to the community and the leaders within governing bodies would certainly bring an ease I'm sure.
To look at religious practices as a whole and the potential and very real threats and issues that can go with that I do believe is important..
To acknowledge that the past is what it is and while that can't be changed .. changes can be made to the future of the way things are run.
I actually don't believe Hubbard was all bad. That is being honest about that.
For it to be understood about the scientific community .. it needs to continually be addressed about what they are about.. getting the local community involved where possible to get excited and see the everyday benefits of science..
In such a place as this, social science, food science, environmental science, all have valid reasons to become excited about science because it can help improve and protect their environment..
Science is exciting.. it is everyday practical application that people don't neccesarily think about yet use it.
For those who believe in God the acknowledgement of the benefits of science isn't a sin at all. If working with the Christian churches to show yes we care and are willing to use science to help prove or disprove any biblical statement or claims made outside of that could be very beneficial.
Archaeology and historical analysis is important within history anyway but also for the Christian people or Jewish people.
I wasn't lying when I said I do love science. I just don't always understand the jargon..
Showing how even in every day human interaction a scientific approach can help to address any issues because there had to be a biological reaction within interaction with another person.
Science can help improve relationship and it can also help improve the sexual relationship when it's allowed to be discussed in a mature way. Both people in and out of churches can have difficulties in those areas.
So long as it's willing participation and clearly stated what it's about.. what's expected on both sides, then it could be a very positive thing indeed.
Personally I thank that I have been allowed to see the things I have and consider possiblity within that.
That's why I am trying to be more respectful now because I have been allowed to have a right to speak freely.
I don't believe I am an illogical person when treated with respect.
I just don't like to be controlled.
Scientology isn't based on Science, but the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard, a chrismatic, larger than life, prolific science fiction writer who was highly controversial. Parishoners pay in the $100,000s to rid themselves of the ghosts of traumatised aliens dropped into volcanos by an evil alien emperor billions of years ago, which they believe gives them super powers to control minds, heal themselves, or even kill with just their minds. They think psychology is evil and behind such horrors as the holocaust, as they dismissed Hubbard's "breakthoughs" as nonsense, they don't believe in college education (since they have all the answers), have used child labor, and those who leave are cut off from all friends and family.
LOL, you're obviously a member specifically sent to address and champion this fucking cult of nutbags. By the way how much money have you pissed away in the past 5 years getting "clear"?