I always thought something looked off about it but my brain never made the connection until I saw them side-by-side. I never even realized that Bomb Voyage isn't even in the memory. It would have been so easy to just reuse animation, but they recreated the scene that went unnoticed by so many people. Ah, the good old days when people cared.
I always noticed the first bit about Dash foreshadowing the main point of Syndrome. But the memory one is truly a "blink and you'll miss it." Kind of easter egg.
@@CutWat I'm not suggesting they don't know, I'm simply condensing the information to a single, simple sentence. The title and the video are the embodiment of "when you need to reach the word count on an essay". Long winded when it doesn't need to be.
@@BR-bj9bf If you make a comment that vague then it can be interpreted in many different ways, espesially when there's no way to tell someones tone on the internet without the use of emojis or tone tags
Dash said it first for our perspective, sure. But syndrome's entire plan was built around the idea itself. Saying dash was the first to make the idea when syndrome spent years preparing for the plan is plain wrong
You haven’t been looking in the right places then. I agree the ones with big marketing are just cash grabs with “Disney magic” slapped on it, but there have been a few good ones to come out recently.
@@reynoldmcdenald1310 true, but it is rarer. Especially from the company's that originally did it, as they'd rather remake something built for being a 2d animation in life action then wonder why it failed, as if they didn't have to change so much about the original just from the situation alone that they might as well have made something new, instead of half assing a remake. The fact they're just questioning if it's necessary for the greenlight stage says it all. And then to celebrate 2d animations, they make something 3d... And they barely replicate a 2d art style, acting like it's just the shot composition and colors that make 2d different, when that's just the basics, the bare minimum, which is even worse when you realize it's after media like dragon ball z kakarot and fighterz, which both perfectly recreate and add onto the animation in the anime in 3d, like bruh, video games are 100x more complicated and they're clowning on you, with lower budgets, get fucked.
You can drill deeper into this, my take on this is that Dash thinks that way because he's a kid. He sees himself as superior to everyone around him because technically it is. And this is important because it shows Syndrome is basically a kid who never grew up, his biggest idol and influence shunning him and treating him like a kid. Its a cool lesson because at the end of the movie, dash has matured and changed, and is willing to take 2nd place in his big race because he's no longer just self interested. It's also telling how Mr. Incredible only gets that kind of control over his son after he lets his son fight with him to stop Syndrome, showing that all Dash needed to start maturing was a little bit of respect and being treated like an adult who can work with his dad. To that same end, it kind of presents Syndrome's relationship with Bob as a neglected child figure, and subtly tells the audience that Bob really did, albeit accidentally, create Syndrome by neglecting him. At this point the more I type about this movie the more I want to go back and rewatch it, this really was a masterpiece.
This is really nice way of explaining it. Maybe if Mr.Incredible could've been a mentor to him and taught him the pros and cons of being a hero instead of just shutting him down. Also since this wasn't the first time syndrome showed up while Mr.incredible was stopping crime he should've taken notice of that. But who's to say that would've steered him in the right direction anyway
I don't necessarily agree with this. I think Syndrome grew up just fine. If anything, he was actually the most mature character in the movie. He sat down as a literal teenager and set out to enact an incredibly ambitious plan to wipe out all the supers. He was the only character in the entire show to actually do something about the status quo, when all the other supers had resolved to fade into mediocrity, even though they didn't want to. The most impressive part was that his plan was basically on it's final phase and nearly worked. Sure, he had a grudge against Mr. Incredible and targeted his friends first, but if you're planning on kiboshing every super, it doesn't really matter what order you go in.
@@Obscurite1221He killed a bunch of supers solely because he was obsessed with revenge against Bob. There’s nothing but childishness in that decision. He’ll do anything to anyone just to get back at someone who wronged him as a child. He never grew up and the omnidroid part of the plot is completely centered around that.
I thought dash and violet were gonna be the villains in the sequel. Not only did dash bring up the fact that if everyone has powers, then no one is unique, but violet says "I don't want to ACT normal, I want to BE normal."
A little error there at the end. Violet actually says to Elastigirl, “They ACT normal mom, I want to BE normal! (Then points to Jack-Jack) The only normal one is Jack-Jack and he hasn’t even been toilet-trained!” Which then later on in the movie after Omnidroid Mk10 was destroyed, Syndrome captures Jack-Jack, his powers are then unleashed within his temper tantrum, turning into a fireball, then metal, and then a monster. Then we watch the short film of Kari turning on Mozart, and then boom, it clicked within him.
Another really cool detail is that Frozone was supposed to die, he was Mirage’s target, which is why the Omnidroid V8 was so easy for Mr. Incredible to beat and why it threw him into the volcano, because it was designed to fight Frozone and didn’t undergo reprogramming, imagine how dark the story would have been if Mirage didn’t swap targets and Mr. incredible would have been responsible for his best friends death on top of all of the other supers aka his friends deaths because he was rude to a kid that was a bit over his head, which even though it wasn’t his fault, you can tell Mr. incredible was thinking that
The second fact reminds me of the BARF scenes in both CIVIL WAR and FFH. The scene is just a normal speech by Tony Stark. But from Mysterio's perspective, it's added with laughs and giggles.
@@CrimsonBladeWielder1998not even close, don’t act like The Incredibles is the first movie to show a character misremembering a previous scene in a flashback
Maybe that’s because he never had, & don’t know what to do with when his own hero rejects him. also, I could see syndrome being a villain or an antihero but try to be both. What you say still makes sense because this verse. 1 Corinthian 13:11 this and the danger of holding onto childish ways.
I mean i completely understand why mr.incredible didn’t want a little boy helping him fight literal bad guys. Like what if he gets hurt on the job? Im sure he didnt hate buddy, just didnt want him to get hurt.
Uh, even if Mr. Incredible let Buddy tag along as a sidekick, he would’ve been forced to stop being a hero as well. The entire point of Buddy’s character is he was focused on making himself look cool and be just like the superhero he practically worshipped. As shown in the memory, he didn’t actually care about stopping the bad guy or protecting innocents like actual supers, he just wanted to be admired and praised. There’s a line where Bob instructed the officers to let Buddy’s mom know what he’s been doing, so it always gave me the impression maybe his father wasn’t around and Buddy kinda saw Mr. incredible as a father figure. Yeah Mr. Incredible was a bit cocky at first and let his status as the greatest superhero get to his head, but the last thing he needed was some annoying kid following him everywhere and possibly getting seriously injured and then having to explain to his mom why her son is in a coma or something. Buddy was simply too arrogant to see how dangerous and grueling being a hero actually was. He could’ve become a superhero simply by using his intelligence for good, maybe the medical industry or even to build transportation, or other industries. But no, he CHOSE to selfishly use his talents just to get even with a dude that hurt his feelings. He literally killed off other heroes just to beat his own hero. Syndrome never thought about what would happen if his own robot outsmarted its creator, hence the part he gets knocked out. All he cared about was getting the praise and glory he never got from Mr. Incredible.
@@kristinahuchison2511You can also see shades of that selfishness/arrogance when he shows up as “Incrediboy”; lots of blatant disregard towards… well, everything that doesn’t directly involve him (like breaking into Mr. Incredible’s car, actively ignoring him and almost getting himself and/or multiple people killed, and interjecting himself into basically everything, be it situations or ideas).
This kinda implies that, if Syndrome never completed his plan or the movie events didnt happen, Dash could have grown with a Huge resentment towards his parents and maybe, MAAAYBE he would have become another villain
A similar thing happened in Spider-Man far from home. When mystero showed the projection of Tony presenting his project, everyone was laughing, but in civil war, the crowd was mostly silent.
Isn't it weird how Syndrome said it after capturing the rest of the family, giving Dash the realisation that there's more to being super than using his powers. Almost as if hearing the villain repeat your words has an impact.
Almost as if Dash saw a dark mirror of himself in Syndrome and decided to turn back from that path, seeing what such worldview had done to somebody older than him.
Incredible was dumb. Telling a child that invents iron man level shit he's not super is just idiotic. He probably was super but had super IQ. Just because someones powers aren't flashy doesn't mean they dont have them.
He never said that. His lack of experience put both of them in danger and made him a liability. He never said he wasn't super, he said he didn't want him in the field.
Syndrome is like Hal (Tighten) BTW, while power does corrupt, these two are already corrupted since they were commoners One is toxically obsessed with heroes, the other is a stalker who doesn't mind an old woman getting mugged as long as he's safe, both are selfish
@@tylosenpai6920 Bob letting someone get mugged so that he doesn't get fired is not necessarily selfish. The mugged probably didn't keep all his savings in his wallet. The mugged would only have lost a little bit. Bob getting fired, however, means that he's no longer getting paid, and that would impact how much he could support his family. He might go for several days jobless, and his family would lose even more money.
Now that I think about it, it would have been nice for everybody to see Dash react after that line from Syndrome. That would be more great animation detail
I don’t think I’ve yet to hear literally any kid growing up, sh*t even any adult ever, that did not like the first Incredibles movie. It’s such a classic, maybe even legendary
Don't pay attention to the rest of the comments, this is really cool and i never noticed it before. If someone feels that the best use of their time is to bash you, then they aren't worth yours
@@laituelelefeon5006 Those 3, The Incredibles, Wall-E, and Ratatouille are some of my favorite movies of ALL TIME. There's just something so special about them.
Honestly, my favourite Syndrome line (which perfectly describes my feelings towards modern Disney/Pixar/Lucasfilm) is “You can’t count on anyone, especially your heroes.”
I genuinely still think Buddy is super, just without the stereotypical powers. What 13yr old can create ROCKET BOOTS! He's either hyperintelligent or a technopath.
I noticed Dash said that. It's one of the things that makes the movie so good. Buddy is definitely obsessed with proving to Mr. Incredible that he is superior, but his overall goal is much higher than that. He wants to prove to the world that supers should not be relied on to protect people.
this is why the first incredibles was a great movie, it wasnt just some kids movie, it was an awesome movie that literally anyone could watch, the themes and storytelling like buddy's flashback, honestly a great animated movie
I loved buddy as a twist villain cause i never thought he was the overly obsessive type that would turn villain from being rejected, looking back on it the foreshadowing and such is what cam make a movie good if done right
What a lot of people don't realize is that syndrome actually was super. Mr incredible just didn't notice it. Syndrome was super intelligent. We know that super intelligence is a superpower because in static shock Richie was super intelligent.
I’ve seen the movie dozens of times and never figured out why Buddy’s memory scene looked different from the actual scene that was being referenced, but given the lighting and different feel of Syndrome’s memory it makes so much sense. Seeing that was far more shocking than the foreshadowing with Dash.
I kind of want an AU where Buddy decided to become the Batman of the Incredible Universe. Like, instead of going "You rejected having me as a side kick so I'll become a villain." He'd go, "Hold up, I'm plenty smart and I've got the drive, why do I need a super powered idiot to let me be a hero? I'm gonna be a much cooler hero and inspiration for regular powerless people."
I think another thing to consider is that, while kinda being rude about it, Mr. Incredible recognized that Buddy was still just a kid without powers. He didn't want him to get hurt so at first he tries to just get Buddy to leave by either asking him to leave and go home or by saying he "works alone", however when that doesn't work he has to resort to being more forceful to get the message across that ultimately twists Buddy's perspective on him and other supers. While I do think Mr Incredible could've gone about it better, his intentions were pretty clear in retrospect and come across as a kind of "tough love" thing as he didn't want a young kid to be killed trying to do what he does.
Regarding Syndome's toxic obsession with heroism, I always found it odd that people claimed he was some representation of hard work. Because of his loss in the film, many people interpreted that only naturally birthed heroes are "real heroes". However, Syndome's intelligence and inventions could be seen as superhuman. He could have been a great superhero, but he used his gift to destroy the exiled superhero community and put innocent people in danger just so he could live out his fantasy. Unlike the Incredibles who actually save people. The second example in the video is a perfect example of why no character, or even the film for that manner, engages Syndome's "not all heroes have powers" argument. Because it only stems from his insecurities
I actually did notice dash's conversarion with his mom. Mr Incredible also has a similar conversation with his wife talking about elementary school graduation.
The phrase “everybody is special” is misunderstood in this movie or at least by Dash and Syndrome, it usually means that everyone has something they are good at that not everyone is. Syndrome is a genius engineer with only Edna being a possible rival, creating weapons that are shown time and again to get the better of Supers, but he is so obsessed with those supers and Mister Incredible in particular that he fails to see it.
It's not just foreshadowing, it's also a way to show how even before Syndrome enacted a whole super villain plot for it, society was already downplaying special people like Dash and Bob, what makes them special could not be used in public, displayed or talked about, everyone was already special, so everyone was super and so no one was.
Would’ve been sick to see a pipeline where dash was the next villain, i remember talking people theorizing about that back when the incredibles first came out
Buddy didn’t have an obsession with the heroic look, he had an obsession with wanting to help people but lacked the super powers to do so. So he made his own super powers, with technology.
I took me a minute to realize you were filming this on your laptop, I thought it was a movie theater screen and I thought the keys on your keyboard where the seats 💀
Im honestly kindof upset the sequel wasnt a timeskip, i feel like it would have been so interesting to see the characters further down the line, especially dash i feel like he could be a good hero turned villan
I've seen this movie hundreds of times, it's one of my all time favorite movies ever, but even I never clocked the difference in Buddy's POV of the flashback. That's pretty cool!
The first one is kinda obvious but that memory difference is pretty cool
I always thought something looked off about it but my brain never made the connection until I saw them side-by-side. I never even realized that Bomb Voyage isn't even in the memory. It would have been so easy to just reuse animation, but they recreated the scene that went unnoticed by so many people. Ah, the good old days when people cared.
I peeped that the last time I watched The Incredibles. It honestly has some of the best writing I've seen and for a kids movie at that!
@@therealoneal1 It’s honestly fascinating how much they squandered the sequel.
@@FMK03I honestly enjoyed the sequal. The first one definitely gives me nostalgia but I liked the sequal too.
I hate when people say this …. Cause we were all like 3-9 years old … so supposedly you guys must’ve had higher intellect 😂😂 to make it so obvious
I always noticed the first bit about Dash foreshadowing the main point of Syndrome. But the memory one is truly a "blink and you'll miss it." Kind of easter egg.
True
Especially with the fact that with Dash's power, you can blink and miss him.
... Pretty sure that isn't how you use that phrase.
@@fertileplanet7756with Dash's power you don't even need to blink to miss it
This is called foreshadowing.
You say that like he doesn't know it, that's why the titles says the movie has good writing
Yeah, good foreshadowing that you might catch on your first few watches.
@@CutWat I'm not suggesting they don't know, I'm simply condensing the information to a single, simple sentence. The title and the video are the embodiment of "when you need to reach the word count on an essay". Long winded when it doesn't need to be.
@@BR-bj9bf If you make a comment that vague then it can be interpreted in many different ways, espesially when there's no way to tell someones tone on the internet without the use of emojis or tone tags
@@CutWatyeah
Dash said it first for our perspective, sure. But syndrome's entire plan was built around the idea itself. Saying dash was the first to make the idea when syndrome spent years preparing for the plan is plain wrong
Agreed if anything its foreshodwing
I think it’s moreso hinting at that Dash could’ve very easily became like Syndrome in the future, there’s a pseudo parallelism between the two.
Yeah I think the video is talking about it as a foreshadowing/writing choice not as crediting dash as the first one to think of the idea ever
@@tylercrowley2510 I would agree but the wording of the video is "Dash was the first to come up with this idea" which lead me to making the comment
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Oh look, a movie which had heart and soul put into it, havent seen one of those in a while.
You must be living under rock then. I can name a bunch of movies that came out that have heart and soul.
You haven’t been looking in the right places then. I agree the ones with big marketing are just cash grabs with “Disney magic” slapped on it, but there have been a few good ones to come out recently.
@@reynoldmcdenald1310 true, but it is rarer. Especially from the company's that originally did it, as they'd rather remake something built for being a 2d animation in life action then wonder why it failed, as if they didn't have to change so much about the original just from the situation alone that they might as well have made something new, instead of half assing a remake. The fact they're just questioning if it's necessary for the greenlight stage says it all. And then to celebrate 2d animations, they make something 3d... And they barely replicate a 2d art style, acting like it's just the shot composition and colors that make 2d different, when that's just the basics, the bare minimum, which is even worse when you realize it's after media like dragon ball z kakarot and fighterz, which both perfectly recreate and add onto the animation in the anime in 3d, like bruh, video games are 100x more complicated and they're clowning on you, with lower budgets, get fucked.
Dune 2
In almost a decade.
Whoa! The memory! THAT'S STORYTELLING!
And it's great when good story telling us appreciated though analysis
You can drill deeper into this, my take on this is that Dash thinks that way because he's a kid. He sees himself as superior to everyone around him because technically it is. And this is important because it shows Syndrome is basically a kid who never grew up, his biggest idol and influence shunning him and treating him like a kid. Its a cool lesson because at the end of the movie, dash has matured and changed, and is willing to take 2nd place in his big race because he's no longer just self interested. It's also telling how Mr. Incredible only gets that kind of control over his son after he lets his son fight with him to stop Syndrome, showing that all Dash needed to start maturing was a little bit of respect and being treated like an adult who can work with his dad. To that same end, it kind of presents Syndrome's relationship with Bob as a neglected child figure, and subtly tells the audience that Bob really did, albeit accidentally, create Syndrome by neglecting him. At this point the more I type about this movie the more I want to go back and rewatch it, this really was a masterpiece.
This is really nice way of explaining it. Maybe if Mr.Incredible could've been a mentor to him and taught him the pros and cons of being a hero instead of just shutting him down. Also since this wasn't the first time syndrome showed up while Mr.incredible was stopping crime he should've taken notice of that. But who's to say that would've steered him in the right direction anyway
I don't necessarily agree with this. I think Syndrome grew up just fine. If anything, he was actually the most mature character in the movie. He sat down as a literal teenager and set out to enact an incredibly ambitious plan to wipe out all the supers. He was the only character in the entire show to actually do something about the status quo, when all the other supers had resolved to fade into mediocrity, even though they didn't want to.
The most impressive part was that his plan was basically on it's final phase and nearly worked. Sure, he had a grudge against Mr. Incredible and targeted his friends first, but if you're planning on kiboshing every super, it doesn't really matter what order you go in.
Even taking 2nd place was a dick move from him.
@@Obscurite1221He killed a bunch of supers solely because he was obsessed with revenge against Bob. There’s nothing but childishness in that decision. He’ll do anything to anyone just to get back at someone who wronged him as a child. He never grew up and the omnidroid part of the plot is completely centered around that.
Well, he actually won the race - but only by a little bit
Never noticed the memory difference 🤯 wow
I thought dash and violet were gonna be the villains in the sequel. Not only did dash bring up the fact that if everyone has powers, then no one is unique, but violet says "I don't want to ACT normal, I want to BE normal."
A little error there at the end. Violet actually says to Elastigirl, “They ACT normal mom, I want to BE normal! (Then points to Jack-Jack) The only normal one is Jack-Jack and he hasn’t even been toilet-trained!” Which then later on in the movie after Omnidroid Mk10 was destroyed, Syndrome captures Jack-Jack, his powers are then unleashed within his temper tantrum, turning into a fireball, then metal, and then a monster. Then we watch the short film of Kari turning on Mozart, and then boom, it clicked within him.
Ok but having the siblings be villains would have been really cool even if they reconciled by the end
@@k.m.186 So a family trying to end each other and fighting is COOL?
@@saimaidar9417 yea you ever watch these super niche movies called Star Wars
@@saimaidar9417same concept for my hero academia
Another really cool detail is that Frozone was supposed to die, he was Mirage’s target, which is why the Omnidroid V8 was so easy for Mr. Incredible to beat and why it threw him into the volcano, because it was designed to fight Frozone and didn’t undergo reprogramming, imagine how dark the story would have been if Mirage didn’t swap targets and Mr. incredible would have been responsible for his best friends death on top of all of the other supers aka his friends deaths because he was rude to a kid that was a bit over his head, which even though it wasn’t his fault, you can tell Mr. incredible was thinking that
The second fact reminds me of the BARF scenes in both CIVIL WAR and FFH. The scene is just a normal speech by Tony Stark. But from Mysterio's perspective, it's added with laughs and giggles.
So FFH ripped off The Incredibles ?
Why am I not surprised
@@CrimsonBladeWielder1998not even close, don’t act like The Incredibles is the first movie to show a character misremembering a previous scene in a flashback
Fun Fact: Michael Giacchino made the Music for Both The Incredibles and the Spider-Man Home Trilogy
"He renamed my life's work: BARF!
I rewatched this movie yesterday and never noticed the detail about the memory, shows how much effort they put in this movie!
Hence the name: Incredibles, Incredible villain, Incredible dialogue, incredible characters, incredible music, incredible ending
Not so incredible sequel
It's to illustrate that Buddy never grew up. He's still thinking like a scolded, petulant child who wants attention
Maybe that’s because he never had, & don’t know what to do with when his own hero rejects him. also, I could see syndrome being a villain or an antihero but try to be both. What you say still makes sense because this verse. 1 Corinthian 13:11 this and the danger of holding onto childish ways.
I mean i completely understand why mr.incredible didn’t want a little boy helping him fight literal bad guys. Like what if he gets hurt on the job? Im sure he didnt hate buddy, just didnt want him to get hurt.
Uh, even if Mr. Incredible let Buddy tag along as a sidekick, he would’ve been forced to stop being a hero as well. The entire point of Buddy’s character is he was focused on making himself look cool and be just like the superhero he practically worshipped. As shown in the memory, he didn’t actually care about stopping the bad guy or protecting innocents like actual supers, he just wanted to be admired and praised. There’s a line where Bob instructed the officers to let Buddy’s mom know what he’s been doing, so it always gave me the impression maybe his father wasn’t around and Buddy kinda saw Mr. incredible as a father figure. Yeah Mr. Incredible was a bit cocky at first and let his status as the greatest superhero get to his head, but the last thing he needed was some annoying kid following him everywhere and possibly getting seriously injured and then having to explain to his mom why her son is in a coma or something. Buddy was simply too arrogant to see how dangerous and grueling being a hero actually was. He could’ve become a superhero simply by using his intelligence for good, maybe the medical industry or even to build transportation, or other industries. But no, he CHOSE to selfishly use his talents just to get even with a dude that hurt his feelings. He literally killed off other heroes just to beat his own hero. Syndrome never thought about what would happen if his own robot outsmarted its creator, hence the part he gets knocked out. All he cared about was getting the praise and glory he never got from Mr. Incredible.
@@kristinahuchison2511You can also see shades of that selfishness/arrogance when he shows up as “Incrediboy”; lots of blatant disregard towards… well, everything that doesn’t directly involve him (like breaking into Mr. Incredible’s car, actively ignoring him and almost getting himself and/or multiple people killed, and interjecting himself into basically everything, be it situations or ideas).
I notice this every time I rewatch it
Nows your chance
@@Toppy_From_Scratchto be a [BIG SHIT]
This kinda implies that, if Syndrome never completed his plan or the movie events didnt happen, Dash could have grown with a Huge resentment towards his parents and maybe, MAAAYBE he would have become another villain
A similar thing happened in Spider-Man far from home. When mystero showed the projection of Tony presenting his project, everyone was laughing, but in civil war, the crowd was mostly silent.
I really want to see alternative timeline when Buddy became Mr.incredibles sidekick
Buddy dies early because he is an incompetent child. Id pay to see that tbh
Mr. Incredible probably becomes Iron Man. "How it should have ended." Did a video on the incredibles it was funny. Not their best work but funny.
I want to see the alternative timeline where Buddy dies when the bomb explodes
@@NickDeShane Their best one was the one where the villain was Martha ;-)
incredibles 1 still reamins one of the greatest animated movies ive ever seen.
I did in fact, notice this. But thank you for highlighting how great Pixar was back then ❤
Perfect examples of foreshadowing and character perspective. Two elements that makes a movie like this *incredible*
Oh man, I never noticed that detail in the memory.
Incredible
Just imagine if they made dash a villain and took syndrome side
that'll just gonna be another little brother not getting enough love cliche that been down in dozens in movies
Make sure to read Disney Twisted Tales
Isn't it weird how Syndrome said it after capturing the rest of the family, giving Dash the realisation that there's more to being super than using his powers.
Almost as if hearing the villain repeat your words has an impact.
Almost as if Dash saw a dark mirror of himself in Syndrome and decided to turn back from that path, seeing what such worldview had done to somebody older than him.
@@ziephel-6780 Exactly!
Incredible was dumb. Telling a child that invents iron man level shit he's not super is just idiotic. He probably was super but had super IQ. Just because someones powers aren't flashy doesn't mean they dont have them.
He never said that. His lack of experience put both of them in danger and made him a liability. He never said he wasn't super, he said he didn't want him in the field.
Syndrome is like Hal (Tighten) BTW, while power does corrupt, these two are already corrupted since they were commoners
One is toxically obsessed with heroes, the other is a stalker who doesn't mind an old woman getting mugged as long as he's safe, both are selfish
But he almost died by being reckless and he is still a kid I don't think there were known kid heroes in the 60s
@@tylosenpai6920 Bob letting someone get mugged so that he doesn't get fired is not necessarily selfish. The mugged probably didn't keep all his savings in his wallet. The mugged would only have lost a little bit.
Bob getting fired, however, means that he's no longer getting paid, and that would impact how much he could support his family. He might go for several days jobless, and his family would lose even more money.
@@evercar5769 While you do have a point, we're not talking about the mugging scene in this thread
Now that I think about it, it would have been nice for everybody to see Dash react after that line from Syndrome. That would be more great animation detail
Heroism cant be toxic, just saying.
omg I actually never realized that! that's so cool!
I don’t think I’ve yet to hear literally any kid growing up, sh*t even any adult ever, that did not like the first Incredibles movie. It’s such a classic, maybe even legendary
I mean there's people that disregard animation as a whole as "just for kids"
Don't pay attention to the rest of the comments, this is really cool and i never noticed it before. If someone feels that the best use of their time is to bash you, then they aren't worth yours
Same
Now that i think about it. It feels like buddy won immediatly after the intro. Heros were gone after like a month.
No matter how many movies I say are my favorite. This one will always be my top favorite. And Wall E
What about Ratatouille?
@justinharvey7398 never saw it D:
@@laituelelefeon5006 Dude! You should. It's directed by Brad Bird, same as The Incredibles. It's a really great movie.
@@laituelelefeon5006 Those 3, The Incredibles, Wall-E, and Ratatouille are some of my favorite movies of ALL TIME. There's just something so special about them.
@justinharvey7398 I just remember movies that're my favorite every time this subject comes up, lol.
I never noticed bomb voyage wasnt in his memory!
Honestly, my favourite Syndrome line (which perfectly describes my feelings towards modern Disney/Pixar/Lucasfilm) is “You can’t count on anyone, especially your heroes.”
I mean of course SYNDROME was obsessed
I genuinely still think Buddy is super, just without the stereotypical powers. What 13yr old can create ROCKET BOOTS! He's either hyperintelligent or a technopath.
Wait that’s actually really good, Pixar used to be fucking amazing man, the attention to detail was next level
his famous line for me is “and got BUSYYY”
I noticed Dash said that. It's one of the things that makes the movie so good. Buddy is definitely obsessed with proving to Mr. Incredible that he is superior, but his overall goal is much higher than that. He wants to prove to the world that supers should not be relied on to protect people.
This was recommend to me because I was talking about this out loud yesterday. My phone keeps listening to my convos
If Syndrome became a hero his number one Super Villain would be named Down😏🥲
this is why the first incredibles was a great movie, it wasnt just some kids movie, it was an awesome movie that literally anyone could watch, the themes and storytelling like buddy's flashback, honestly a great animated movie
Syndrome is also the reason why Screenslaver. Since the heroes that had a direct line to Devtech died.
Naw his famous line is “You sly dog you had me monologuing” 😂😂😂
Ngl i thought je was in a movie theater talking but relized it was his laptop
„See, now you respect me, because I am a threat“
I loved buddy as a twist villain cause i never thought he was the overly obsessive type that would turn villain from being rejected, looking back on it the foreshadowing and such is what cam make a movie good if done right
What a lot of people don't realize is that syndrome actually was super. Mr incredible just didn't notice it. Syndrome was super intelligent. We know that super intelligence is a superpower because in static shock Richie was super intelligent.
I’ve seen the movie dozens of times and never figured out why Buddy’s memory scene looked different from the actual scene that was being referenced, but given the lighting and different feel of Syndrome’s memory it makes so much sense. Seeing that was far more shocking than the foreshadowing with Dash.
We all remember Syndrome’s famous line: “And got BIZAAAAYYYYYY”
AND THATS, CALLED, ✨FORESHADOWING✨
I kind of want an AU where Buddy decided to become the Batman of the Incredible Universe. Like, instead of going "You rejected having me as a side kick so I'll become a villain." He'd go, "Hold up, I'm plenty smart and I've got the drive, why do I need a super powered idiot to let me be a hero? I'm gonna be a much cooler hero and inspiration for regular powerless people."
I never noticed the memory difference. I have the DVD, and I NEVER noticed Bombvoyage was gone.
Incredibles as a social commentary was way ahead of its time
The best line is "you married elastigirl? And got Bizayyy?!' *country for some reason* oooooooo this is just too gud"'
This is writing at its peak.
I miss pre-2010 animated movies.
the amazing parallels horikoshi made with the beginning of MHA to this movie was great
Yup. I literally noticed today when rewatching the movie about what Dash said. I was kinda mind blown ngl
When disney treated fans like they have a frontal lobe.
I actually did notice that Dash was the one who said this line first, even when I was a kid.
Its crazy how Frozone was gonna be the next hero to die...
I think we all noticed that first part about Dash, but I genuinely never even noticed the difference in Buddy’s recollection of that scene :0
Oh shit, a video like this that actually DID point out things i missed
I think another thing to consider is that, while kinda being rude about it, Mr. Incredible recognized that Buddy was still just a kid without powers.
He didn't want him to get hurt so at first he tries to just get Buddy to leave by either asking him to leave and go home or by saying he "works alone", however when that doesn't work he has to resort to being more forceful to get the message across that ultimately twists Buddy's perspective on him and other supers.
While I do think Mr Incredible could've gone about it better, his intentions were pretty clear in retrospect and come across as a kind of "tough love" thing as he didn't want a young kid to be killed trying to do what he does.
"I bet you never noticed" bro that was literally the entire point of their conversation in the car
God I love Jason Lee
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
I use this on the daily.
Regarding Syndome's toxic obsession with heroism, I always found it odd that people claimed he was some representation of hard work. Because of his loss in the film, many people interpreted that only naturally birthed heroes are "real heroes". However, Syndome's intelligence and inventions could be seen as superhuman. He could have been a great superhero, but he used his gift to destroy the exiled superhero community and put innocent people in danger just so he could live out his fantasy. Unlike the Incredibles who actually save people. The second example in the video is a perfect example of why no character, or even the film for that manner, engages Syndome's "not all heroes have powers" argument. Because it only stems from his insecurities
I actually did notice dash's conversarion with his mom. Mr Incredible also has a similar conversation with his wife talking about elementary school graduation.
The phrase “everybody is special” is misunderstood in this movie or at least by Dash and Syndrome, it usually means that everyone has something they are good at that not everyone is. Syndrome is a genius engineer with only Edna being a possible rival, creating weapons that are shown time and again to get the better of Supers, but he is so obsessed with those supers and Mister Incredible in particular that he fails to see it.
It's not just foreshadowing, it's also a way to show how even before Syndrome enacted a whole super villain plot for it, society was already downplaying special people like Dash and Bob, what makes them special could not be used in public, displayed or talked about, everyone was already special, so everyone was super and so no one was.
I just realized this kid was making these CRAZY devices and nobody cared. Like NOBODY batted an eye
Incredibles 3 is coming! I can’t waif
Incredibles was such a good movie...she it never got a sequel
I wish this was included as well! This is amazing!!
I’ve watched the incredible 546764335 times and never noticed that memory difference
I always wondered on how heroes have the money to buy their advanced technology
Would’ve been sick to see a pipeline where dash was the next villain, i remember talking people theorizing about that back when the incredibles first came out
Buddy didn’t have an obsession with the heroic look, he had an obsession with wanting to help people but lacked the super powers to do so. So he made his own super powers, with technology.
He’s not obsessed with being a hero, he’s just obsessed with looking like a hero
What I like about that line is that implies two things: everyone super = everyone is equal.
And if every one is super, no one will be left(wars)
So kinda like Homelander, and Omniman.
Gee, imagine being the inhabitants of THAT world. Couldn't be me.
That guy kinda reminds me of vegeta with his hairline 😂
I always thought the memory thing was just an animation mistake but it makes a lot more sense now
I did not notice the change in scene when they flashback to the "Fly home." moment
I love it when we get to both see the past and have people flashback to it in a story and the scenes look very different
pixar back then was the GOAT
I took me a minute to realize you were filming this on your laptop, I thought it was a movie theater screen and I thought the keys on your keyboard where the seats 💀
Just another reason this is one of the greatest movies ever made
This mf is basically a whole reverse flash
Or… it symbolizes the heartbrokeness & shock Buddy witness when his idol told him he works alone.
Im honestly kindof upset the sequel wasnt a timeskip, i feel like it would have been so interesting to see the characters further down the line, especially dash i feel like he could be a good hero turned villan
Bro didn’t want to remember Bomb Voyage as bro roasted his suit “ta tenue est rigicule”😂😂
I think it all could have been avoided if Bob hired Buddy to crrate gadjets and tune his car from time to time.
When disney made impact writing
I've seen this movie hundreds of times, it's one of my all time favorite movies ever, but even I never clocked the difference in Buddy's POV of the flashback. That's pretty cool!
Reverse dash 🗣️
I want helen so bad
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Real
Same. But even with her elastic powers, her gajoonze still wouldn't be able to take me in
Straight to the point 💀
You guys are so freaking down bad, and I don’t blame you
I remember when incredibles 2 was announced, everyone took that one line dash said and start theorizing that he’d be the next villain😂