Can Our Small Block Fake Lamborghini Beat a Real One? | Faster with Finnegan | MotorTrend

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • Newbern, Cotten, and Finnegan attempt to beat a Lamborghini Gallardo for a fraction of the price. Armed with a beater Fiero-based Countach kit car, the guys drop in a new V-8 and take on the Lambo in a series of track tests.
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Комментарии • 349

  • @MotorTrendWatch
    @MotorTrendWatch  Год назад +48

    Would you drive the Scamborghini?

    • @davyboyyyy
      @davyboyyyy Год назад +1

      more like 2.8L

    • @KrazyMitchAdventures
      @KrazyMitchAdventures Год назад +2

      in 2010 I had an 88 Fiero, powered by a 2004 Cadillac 3.6L V6 @ 255 hp she went like a scalded cat

    • @speedhunter7156
      @speedhunter7156 Год назад +1

      Sure it has the fury and acts of the original but half the price of one

    • @KrazyMitchAdventures
      @KrazyMitchAdventures Год назад

      @@speedhunter7156 Half the cost?? a 1984 lamborghini countach is $270,000 and a 1984 Pontiac Fiero MSRP brand New was $8500. I think you need to check your math.

    • @speedhunter7156
      @speedhunter7156 Год назад

      @@KrazyMitchAdventures and your the one whos complaining

  • @stevebarnette
    @stevebarnette Год назад +172

    You could do a 25 part series on making this car faster and better looking! I’d watch every single episode!

    • @stevebarnette
      @stevebarnette Год назад +3

      Now I see it caught fire. Looking forward to an update video!

    • @Cubanb407
      @Cubanb407 Год назад +6

      Yeah if you made episodes of cleaning this thing up I’d watch every episode

    • @nycLPplayer
      @nycLPplayer Год назад +3

      put it up against the Car Bros Fierri Enzo

    • @MotorTrendWatch
      @MotorTrendWatch  Год назад +41

      Scamborghini spinoff show?

    • @Cubanb407
      @Cubanb407 Год назад +2

      @@MotorTrendWatch do eeet

  • @r1nger81
    @r1nger81 Год назад +18

    Got to love mid-engine. That couple of seconds where they were just chatting with the car on fire was GOLDEN

  • @patsgarage8593
    @patsgarage8593 Год назад +33

    I had a Fiero a few years ago. I loved it. Ex wife made me get rid of it. Should have gotten rid of her sooner instead lol

    • @c.s.charles2102
      @c.s.charles2102 9 месяцев назад

      Never let your woman tell you what to do. The car is never going to wake up one morning and tell you that it doesn't love you anymore.

  • @jacobmoses3712
    @jacobmoses3712 Год назад +83

    By the way Mike dealt with the fire, I get the idea this isn't his first time

    • @MrGhostOg
      @MrGhostOg Год назад +5

      Don’t forget your phone 😂

    • @dustincredible1249
      @dustincredible1249 Год назад

      @@MrGhostOg 😆😅🤣😂

    • @MotorTrendWatch
      @MotorTrendWatch  Год назад +29

      We'll get started on a Fires with Finnegan compilation.

    • @dustincredible1249
      @dustincredible1249 Год назад

      @MotorTrend Channel I loved the momsoon run as soon as he crossed the finish line he mentioned AND NO FIRE!!!

  • @duygukayhanisaskank4915
    @duygukayhanisaskank4915 Год назад +8

    They make a kit that allows a front-wheel-drive, V8 Cadillac engine & transaxle in a Fiero.
    With "a few" aftermarket items, they are insanely fast.
    Best regards,
    Ben

    • @jrsgarage7623
      @jrsgarage7623 Год назад

      Like the 4.6l Northstar? That would be insane fast

  • @gaspoweredgarage
    @gaspoweredgarage Год назад +14

    Either drivetrain from a 97-08 grand prix with a 3800 supercharged or ls4 would have been a better swap since fiero guys do those swaps all the time and would have made more horsepower also.

    • @cameronvandygriff7048
      @cameronvandygriff7048 Год назад

      They also do sbc swaps all the time before the 3800 series 2 and LS became really common on the cheap and probably the cheapest V8 swap on fiero

    • @matts1166
      @matts1166 Год назад

      I was just going to suggest a transverse V-8 swap from a Monte SS, which you could then throw on a turbo/supercharger/procharger with moderate boost.

    • @MisterMayhem727
      @MisterMayhem727 Год назад

      Definitely was about to suggest the LS4 swap or the Northstar. Or even better the LS4 with the Cadillac Northstar transaxle.
      But I suspect in a decade or two, maybe 3 guys will be yelling LT4 with the C8 drive train.

  • @jamestyndall529
    @jamestyndall529 Год назад +1

    I love how cotton said grab my phone

  • @watsisbuttndo829
    @watsisbuttndo829 Год назад +66

    Flamborgini. This would be an epic 24hrs lemons build. Should throw down against the F40 Ferarri fiero that competes regularly.

    • @joshriver75
      @joshriver75 Год назад

      Except the cost would still far exceed 24hr lemons limits.

    • @Arrchey249
      @Arrchey249 Год назад +2

      @@joshriver75 Lemons guys know that this car, being a self solving problem, is never ever going to be competitive. So they don't care about the money that's spent on it.

    • @joshriver75
      @joshriver75 Год назад

      @@Arrchey249 Nonsense..nobody is going to spend $1700 on an entry fee. $1000-$2000 prepping the car only to be penalized with an abundance of negative laps. It isn't uncommon to be rejected for an overly excessive "BS factor"
      Sure the is junk..but it's a totally impractical choice and just far too expensive.

    • @Arrchey249
      @Arrchey249 Год назад +1

      @@joshriver75 you really think they will get any penalty laps? Every time MotorTrend goes there it only ends one way, a magnificent failure.
      Also on the far too expensive and impractical.... Arguably the greatest Lemons car is a Viper swapped Rolls-Royce....

    • @joshriver75
      @joshriver75 Год назад

      @@Arrchey249 you get 1 penalty lap for every $10 spent over the price cap.

  • @emilianocruz11
    @emilianocruz11 Год назад +13

    We need the full Episode here un RUclips pleaseee

  • @LuciFeric137
    @LuciFeric137 Год назад +5

    "We got oil sloshing around. No biggie."
    Fire erupts into the cockpit.

    • @dammyo6010
      @dammyo6010 Год назад +1

      Life comes at your fast!

  • @darrinnoble
    @darrinnoble Год назад +7

    I love the builds these guys do on FWF. Such a funny show.

  • @VF1Skullangel
    @VF1Skullangel Год назад +6

    You guys should have used a 3800 SC instead of a V8....

  • @renzoconcha1318
    @renzoconcha1318 Год назад +3

    We need and we want to see more about this lambo, please! Improve her in every way! Thank you. Greetings.

  • @robertshowers4580
    @robertshowers4580 Год назад +1

    Fiero's didn't have a 4.3 V6. That engine didn't exist when they were built. The engines that were available were a small 4 cylinder & the 2.8L V6.

  • @every-istand-ophobe6320
    @every-istand-ophobe6320 Год назад +2

    That's awesome! We got the EXACT results everyone else did with a fiero!!

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman1546 Год назад +2

    GREAT VIDEO MIKE!!!! I LOVE THE UPGRADES!!! THANKS FOR SHARING!!!

  • @Optimus_Media
    @Optimus_Media Год назад +2

    finn welding that box section is like putting lipstick on a pig lolol

  • @_Oz_
    @_Oz_ Год назад +2

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, The Fiero Fire jokes. it was almost exclusively the 1984 2.5-liter that caught fire. By mid-1987, the 1984 Fieros were catching fire at a rate of about 20 per month. Those 260 cars which burned made up just 0.7 percent of all Fieros sold. Also, unlike the case of the Ford Pinto, no deaths resulted from Fiero fires, and there were only ten cases of minor injury. GM rolled out a recall to fix the issue. Based on the large amount of Fieros still out there, they don't all catch one fire. I have 2, and if you search FB marketplace you can find plenty of them for sale.
    You have an 86GT with a v6 that is less likely to catch fire than the 350 you are dropping into it, as you found out. LOL!!

  • @antny2149
    @antny2149 Год назад +8

    Stock 4.3... huh???? Maybe, kinda, definitely, a 2.8 multi port.... Wait hold on he got it right mid way through . Good job

    • @xxxYYZxxx
      @xxxYYZxxx Год назад

      4.3L isn't a bad idea tho, tuned could easily do 290 HP, or 400+ HP with a turbo.

  • @dustincredible1249
    @dustincredible1249 Год назад +1

    That was the calmest were on fire senerio I ever seen! It sounded good at high rpm too lol!

  • @richardleroux8100
    @richardleroux8100 Год назад +1

    Oh boy as a fiero owner and several swaps under my belt I can already tell you knowledge is power. 3800 sc swap with a 3.5 pulley a set of plugs and depends. Your all set. Do it cheaper go auto. That trans can hold lots of power but it’s how often. Now to watch through.

  • @bigscrewg
    @bigscrewg Год назад +2

    It caught fire at the end. That made it more authentic in my opinion

  • @Giitzerland
    @Giitzerland Год назад +4

    THIS reminds of the RoadKill I miss!!! :D

  • @johnhickman106
    @johnhickman106 Год назад +3

    It certainly lived up to the Fiero name by catching fire.

    • @Zankaroo
      @Zankaroo Год назад

      Fiero name has nothing to do with fire nor did they catch on fire a lot. It was only a small percent of the total production of Fiero and it was only the first year that had a fire issue.

    • @johnhickman106
      @johnhickman106 Год назад

      @@Zankaroo Good lord, it was a joke.

  • @prestonedmonds4128
    @prestonedmonds4128 Год назад +3

    Are you sure you guys didn't stage that fire?

  • @mamaleighcase1569
    @mamaleighcase1569 Год назад +2

    That was kinda psycho. Fire 🔥 is always a scary thing!!! Scamborghini is a win.

  • @DavesTrainsAndAutomobiles
    @DavesTrainsAndAutomobiles Год назад +3

    Awesome episode guys 😎👍 It may be a knock-off lamborghini, but it sure started on 🔥fire🔥 like a real one 🤣

  • @ryurc3033
    @ryurc3033 Год назад +2

    I've had the motor out of a fiero before with a floor jack and a couple really tall jack stands. Oh it was awesome.....not. Really getting it lined back up to drop it back down was the worst, can't wait to watch you try to fanneggle it back into place!

    • @ryurc3033
      @ryurc3033 Год назад +4

      I think an aluminum 5.3 from an Impala SS or Pontiac GTP would be the move, rather than that fragile trans

    • @drewt1081
      @drewt1081 Год назад

      @@ryurc3033 right?

  • @syzygy3239
    @syzygy3239 Год назад +1

    If you want a stronger transaxle, you could use a 4t80 out of a grandprix that has the ls4 engine. Or just use the ls4 with the 4t80 transaxle.

  • @timschell5781
    @timschell5781 Год назад +2

    It was traveling so fast that the friction from the air heated up around it and burst into flames!

  • @redlineriders2695
    @redlineriders2695 Год назад

    Cool seeing you guys at barber on the proving ground ! Ripped around that track on my mini bike at small bore

  • @Krept2u
    @Krept2u Год назад

    I think we have that much oil sloshing around while there's an actual fire in the back burning gotta love it 😂

  • @AMV12S
    @AMV12S Год назад +2

    Wow, this is one of the most realistic Lamborghini replica I've ever seen, even catch fire like the real one 😱

  • @grimreaper8209
    @grimreaper8209 Год назад +3

    What did you put the fire out for, you should have let it burn

  • @airplanefixerguy1
    @airplanefixerguy1 Год назад +2

    That's begging for a Cadillac Northstar engine and transaxle. With a turbo of course.

  • @John_Conner222
    @John_Conner222 Год назад +1

    ooooooo, is this track in Georgia? Near Road Atlanta? Where is this track?

  • @donedwards3811
    @donedwards3811 Год назад

    HEY.... WTF, "IT'S a HOTROD' . . .🤣🤣🤣🙃🤣 Great Content ,Loved it !

  • @pivotman1121
    @pivotman1121 Год назад +2

    "stock 4.3 fiero motor" Uh.... No... the fiero came in a 2.5 I4 and a 2.8 V6. the red intake indicates it's a 2.8v6 same engine as the S10.

  • @MIsterB716
    @MIsterB716 Год назад +5

    Needs FWD Impala LS swap.

  • @brandonford8092
    @brandonford8092 Год назад +6

    I don't think the fiero came with a 4.3 maybe a 2.8 or a 3.6

    • @_Oz_
      @_Oz_ Год назад

      2.8l. 4.3, that is a BIG v6!

    • @RiverCritter
      @RiverCritter Год назад

      2.5 four tech I think. Worst 4 cyl ever made or the 3.6 v6 which was just as bad.

    • @RiverCritter
      @RiverCritter Год назад

      @@_Oz_ 4.3 v6 is kinda like a small block v8 with two cylinders chopped off the front.

  • @skywardspeed9713
    @skywardspeed9713 Год назад +1

    Love yall ...but big missed opportunity guys ... should have done LS4 swap with motor/trans/cradle and all ... 06-08 montecarlo ss / impala ss

    • @carsnob
      @carsnob Год назад

      Missed a huge opp for flames and two guys freaked out reactions in car as the thumbnail 😅and catches on fire in title could go viral who knows 😂I found out abt the fire from the latest short n then found the vid

  • @francoisrivard893
    @francoisrivard893 Год назад +1

    Awesome! Ton of fun for not too much $$$

  • @waynecreech
    @waynecreech Год назад

    Back in the 80s I put a TPI 350 from a Vette in a Fiero, the runners were taller than the engine cover.. It was fun but it ate axles..

  • @SP-wk1en
    @SP-wk1en Год назад +1

    Cheapo oil breathers mounted laterally by any chance? Near hot headers. You're gonna need a better oil management system. Maybe pipe everything to the front breather? Dunno. Never done that before.

  • @anonymousinc6330
    @anonymousinc6330 Год назад

    The 2.5L four-cylinder Fieros had a problem with weak piston rods that broke and smashed through the block, allowing oil to be thrown on the exhaust. The V6s didn't have this problem. And that is a 2.8L V6, not a 4.3L. The 2.8L is a 60-degree engine, the 4.3L is a 90-degree. Different engine.

  • @litozz4156
    @litozz4156 Год назад +2

    We need a series on a rebuild makeing the car faster and also look better

  • @benkeight4314
    @benkeight4314 Год назад +5

    The foreshadowing is strong with this one 🙏

  • @TheTravelersTravels
    @TheTravelersTravels Год назад +1

    Fire is a feature, not a problem...

  • @Blowinshiddup
    @Blowinshiddup Год назад +1

    FLAME-Broghini... it's still holding to its origins as a FIERO...

  • @jaybooks8367
    @jaybooks8367 Год назад

    Y’all under estimate the Getrag 282 they had in them. Trans held up just fine to a Ramjet 350 crate motor. I could break the tires free in every gear shift and never broke the trans.

  • @62cripple
    @62cripple Год назад +10

    Dang that was funny....chatting away with flames behind them....🤣

  • @mikelowry-lv8pv
    @mikelowry-lv8pv Год назад

    Grab a phone grab my phone he try to get out the car too I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @peterpann9619
    @peterpann9619 Год назад

    The first year a few fieros did catch on fire due to a weather seal between the hood and body in the engine bay but was fixed with the removal of the seal.

  • @2vcrew782
    @2vcrew782 Год назад

    I keep a small Tundra fire van in every car I drive. They are sealed and good for 5-7 years and will disperse chemical three times longer than standard fire extinguishers.

  • @polvoradelrey2423
    @polvoradelrey2423 Год назад

    "We are on fire"
    *slowly gets out through the window

  • @gd1996
    @gd1996 Год назад +1

    Should have used a countach to have the comparison considering that's what this kits suppose to be and I bet it would have been much closer.

    • @EYESLAPJEWS
      @EYESLAPJEWS Год назад

      I was thinking the exact same thing but the countach are so rare these days that I highly doubt someone going to let them track a real countach

  • @MisterTingles
    @MisterTingles Год назад

    aw, that things really cool, I wonder why I hadn't seen much of it in other episoooOOOOHH IT'S ON FIRE!!!

  • @BillBogan
    @BillBogan Год назад +1

    How many circles should you run around the car before using the fire extinguisher? 🤣 Fiero guaranteed to light your fire!

  • @bfgm3268
    @bfgm3268 Год назад

    Great work and fun.) Now this "countage" is realey not bad.

  • @MJorgy5
    @MJorgy5 Год назад

    To think someone put this much effort into a FIERO with a stock powertrain is mind-boggling.

  • @john-vy1ml
    @john-vy1ml Год назад +2

    Was this on TV? Does anyone watch TV anymore?
    This is great content

    • @shadvan9494
      @shadvan9494 Год назад

      it was on Faster with Finnigan on Motor Trend on demand. this was an epic episode, since all Finnigan talked about was how Fiero's caught fire all the time. and the finished with it catching on fire. there are a lot of shows like that on MToD.

  • @Jenuin
    @Jenuin Год назад +1

    That ending was fire 🔥 😅

  • @eahughey
    @eahughey Год назад

    Fin: Are we on fire??
    Mike: NO!

  • @k5wxp22
    @k5wxp22 Год назад

    True story... I was at a bar back in the 80's with a buddy. A really drunk guy kept hitting on the waitress, and was telling her to come out to the parking lot to check out his sports car. She asked what kind of sports car, and he said in a slur... Ferrario! She said Ferrari, and he slurred again... no, Ferrario! It's a Pontiac! Waitress said you mean Fiero? Drunk guy sez Yeah!!!
    We about died from laughing, and no, the waitress didn't go to check it out. 😆😆😆

  • @denozed6554
    @denozed6554 9 месяцев назад

    That was freaking awesome.

  • @c.s.charles2102
    @c.s.charles2102 9 месяцев назад

    You're supposed to replace the stock transaxle and transmission, when performing an engine swap on a Fiero.

  • @edwilko8819
    @edwilko8819 Год назад

    Its scary how bad cars can be and still be allowed on thebroad in the usa, would never pass a iva test in the uk, fantastic repair and fabwork making it safe again

  • @BC-kx5zb
    @BC-kx5zb Год назад

    At least the Fiero and Lamborghini have something in common. They catch on fire.

  • @patsgarage8593
    @patsgarage8593 Год назад +1

    And the best engine for this car is to take out the whole front end of a North Star caddy. V8 insanity in a tiny light car!!

  • @eddymagomago4502
    @eddymagomago4502 Год назад +11

    And now put in one kit twin turbo, set of big brakes and one very good kit of suspension with racing coilovers 😜

  • @gtvrossa
    @gtvrossa Год назад +1

    Did he just climb out of the window???? I've never seen that before on a fake Lambo lol.

  • @jgordon7719
    @jgordon7719 Год назад +1

    A more fair comparison, a real countach

  • @Slowgroovin
    @Slowgroovin Год назад

    Fieros didn't catch fire. It was a very minor 1984 recall issue that turned urban legend. Also, 2.8 liter V6. Geez..

  • @christophersanders5007
    @christophersanders5007 Год назад

    I was at a car show last week where a guy had a ‘Fiero Mera', which is a Pontiac Fiero Ferrari 308 kit car "Fakerrari"

  • @ourelton
    @ourelton Год назад

    Those things are notorious for catching on fire! Apparently, even in disguise!

  • @yosemite-e2v
    @yosemite-e2v Год назад

    Back in the early nineties I worked at a Chevron in Tucson and a guy came in with a white Testarossa; but the name badge was slightly crooked, and I heard a V6 when he started it up. I'd read about people using Fieros as the base for kit cars, but that's still the only one I've ever seen in person. I'd much rather have a hot rodded Fiero than a fake Testarossa, just as I'd rather have a real Timex over a fake Rolex.
    If they used the stock plastic line for the oil pressure gauge, that would be my first suspect for the cause of the fire.

  • @jerrysmith1887
    @jerrysmith1887 Год назад +3

    4.3 V6?? I think you meant 2.8.

    • @jacobmoses3712
      @jacobmoses3712 Год назад

      Cotton said 2.8 when they were dragging the engine out from under the car

  • @natereinhold6180
    @natereinhold6180 Год назад

    What fiero came stock with a 4.3 as you state at the beginning? It looked like a 60 degree v6 to me. Iirc 2.8l

    • @johnhickman106
      @johnhickman106 Год назад

      They corrected that later when they were sitting talking about it. It’s just the little 2.8 stocker.

  • @swamppy4880
    @swamppy4880 Год назад

    Thanks for the Tshirt, Mike

  • @detroithammer8869
    @detroithammer8869 Год назад +2

    They are never right until after first fire. Kinda of a burn in period if You will.

  • @edwardfletcher7790
    @edwardfletcher7790 Год назад

    Ohhh Gawd, the body roll ! 😜

  • @1mouse3
    @1mouse3 Год назад +1

    A longitudinal Audi V8 would work good in this and have a trans that can be built to hold power.

  • @drstrangefart
    @drstrangefart Год назад

    Right now this car would have blended in with the cars on The Wraith PERFECTLY.

  • @drummerchaniking7026
    @drummerchaniking7026 Год назад

    This is the only "Magic Mike" I want to see

  • @Zankaroo
    @Zankaroo Год назад

    It was only a small percent of the total production of Fiero and it was only the first year that had a fire issue. Honestly tired of car RUclipsrs/journalist saying Fieros has issues with fire or burning to the ground as a blanket statement when they didn't.

  • @louisgarguilojr2592
    @louisgarguilojr2592 Год назад

    I know Skid Row personally. You're right Finn.

  • @LayneC10
    @LayneC10 Год назад +1

    Stock 4.3 fiero motor??

  • @noduh736
    @noduh736 Год назад +5

    Coulda did an ls and transaxle out of an impala ss

  • @robertmartin4135
    @robertmartin4135 Год назад +1

    Showing what Fiero's were famous for.

  • @drewt1081
    @drewt1081 Год назад

    Why not an 5.3 out of a '06 Impala SS? It'd be an easy swap, with LS goodness, maybe a 32V North...

  • @jethrow243
    @jethrow243 Год назад

    Asking about fire was a foreshadowing

  • @chrispluschristgould7256
    @chrispluschristgould7256 Год назад +1

    WHAT SONG IS THAT PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND N WHAT BAND IS THAT?

    • @isaacmiller5956
      @isaacmiller5956 Год назад +1

      Dangerous Game - Ian Baker
      Took me forever to find it!!

  • @jasonrackawack9369
    @jasonrackawack9369 Год назад

    If you could get a built up turbo 6 from a grand national it might have the best power to weight going for it....probably kill any trans you put behind it though.

  • @masjuggalo
    @masjuggalo Год назад

    El Dorado transaxle. The irony is that 1985. That's 6. Cylinder made as much power as that 350

  • @carbonfiber8071
    @carbonfiber8071 Год назад

    Instead of a firewall, you have a wall of fire, cool.

  • @ronarmstrong835
    @ronarmstrong835 Год назад +1

    I can't help but wonder if it would have been possible to just build up the 2.8 liter for more power. Or used a 3.4 liter with some mods. These are all basically the same block.

    • @JimCraig_riced
      @JimCraig_riced Год назад +1

      Or a 3.8sc and its autotrans

    • @rkirschner7175
      @rkirschner7175 Год назад

      C5 for life. You Tube channel. He built a supercharged V6 Fiero that has some stonk. Real sleeper.

    • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
      @trillrifaxegrindor4411 Год назад +2

      3.8 with the supercharger is the ticket,also using the front wheel drive trans from a gtp or one of the other supercharged fwd 3.8 cars and lock out the steering...either that or an lq4 and fwd trans from an impala ss

  • @Aegis43
    @Aegis43 Год назад

    Please tell me this is Part I with more episodes to follow.

  • @timberray9572
    @timberray9572 Год назад +1

    Should have called it the Lameborghini.

  • @Thumper68
    @Thumper68 Год назад

    A supercharged 3.8 swap makes Fiero’s move.