@@Fleshlight_Reviewer right, sony was way ahead of nintendo and everyone in terms of features on their handhelds and its great to see gpd recognize that. to me, its a fact that ps-like clicky dpad is far superior then mushy sharp corner nintendo dpad
the title made me laugh because it reminded me of a video that talked about how the original xbox wasn't popular in japan because the original controller was big lol
This is the one I've had my eye on. I really love the Switch Lite form factor and I'm a sucker for OLED screens. I just can't decide if the drawbacks are dealbreakers or not. It is pretty expensive.
Great review! I would have appreciated a bit more detail on how SF6 runs on the device. I'm strongly considering getting a handheld like this as my portable SF6 setup. That is, a computer I can bring to places with a TV, hook up, and get games in with friends. Is there any chance you could do a video looking at the various options for that use-case? I'd like to be able to hook up two USB controllers to the device while using a video-out to go to the external monitor, having a switch-like dock would be a nice-to-have, but as long as there's a hack to get things up and running it's good enough.
I have the air plus and am getting the air 1s. Looks like the same exact dpad. If it is, it's perfect, regardless of what the person here says. It's the best dpad I've ever used.
An important aspect about these portable devices with built-in controls is how durable the analog sticks are and if they have hall effect sensor or not. It's good to hear this uses it. Suffice to say, Nintendo _needs_ to make a successor to the Switch and have the same form factor but more powerful specs, hall sensors, backwards compatibility with Switch cartridges and digital games, NVMe expanded storage support, etc.
and one that doesn't feels outdated in like 3 months... by the speed they release their handhelds you feel like you can wait around 4 months and get a better device for the same price.
Current generation gaming handhelds are still FAR too weak (w/terrible battery life) for modern pc games. It is better to wait for the AMD Ryzen 8000 APUs next year. Even the lower TDP rated Ryzen 8000 Strix Point should be far superior to the current 7840U.
Welp. You're incorrect. Mine runs everything I throw at it and well. Not to mention, the 8840u is basically the same as the 7840u. An incredibly miniscule bump from the 7840u, and makes it not worth it in the slightest as they basically about the same chip
Size is a matter of personal preference and what is better is to have more variety for Handheld Gaming PCs. There are those who like the pocketableness of 3.5~5' screen handheld pcs Others are ok with regular 6~8' Others like myself want a 8~10" screens that could potentially double as tablets/laptops.
Reddit is going to be a better review source for Ayaneo. I’ve consistently seen issues on their build quality, customer service, and rma service. This review feels more like an advertisement that isn’t honest about the overall experience whereas Reddit can provide more realistic impressions and review.
The thing I most want out of my windows gaming handheld, is that it is also a totally viable general purpose PC, which is why I love my GPD Win Max to death. The dpad on the WinMax is...okay, sounds better than your review of the Air 1s.
It's really nice seeing more portable PCs, it's interesting, but idk personally if 1k is worth it 4 me, maybe 4 the Yakuza games if I want higher graphical fidelity but even then the way I use my Steam deck is as a companion piece and not for a whole replacement as I feel the Aya Neo seems to be. I do agree I wish companies cared more about D-pads, overall this review is nice, and gave me a more open look into this industry
I've found my steam deck dpad has improved quite a bit after "breaking it in" by playing tons of sf6 on it...I wonder if that could be the case here. might get a little less stiff over time
Whats the difference between this and the Ayaneo Air Plus? Which one is newer, its so confusing all the model naming, theres like 10 different ayaneos, can someone give a good summary of the models?
@@NihongoGamer After alot of digging i finally figured it out, so basically theres 3 main models at the moment: • Ayaneo 2s • Ayaneo Geek 1s • Ayaneo Air 1s All "s" means is the latest upgrade to the 7840u chip (anything without the S has the old 6800u chip) - Ayaneo 2s: is the base model, it has a 1200p LCD display with no bezels - Ayaneo Geek 1s: is just a "cheaper" version of the 2s, the reason its cheaper is bc it has a bezel AND only 800p resolution (there is now a 1200p version, but its basically the price of the base model, i have no idea why they did this) - Ayaneo Air 1s: the one you have, is the same device as the other two, but in a smaller body AND a OLED 1080p display Finally, the screen size on the Air is unfortunately only 5.5" (smaller than an iphone) the other models the screen is 7". Other than that they're all basically the same device.
glad I found this channel. To me, D-PAD is a deal breaker. So I value your opinion a lot. To me a portable with a bad D-PAD is not worth considering. Thank you!
Nearly £900 for this device is way too much for me. When you can buy a desktop PC with much higher specs for 3/4 of this price it seems that Ayaneo might be taking a piss a bit.
Man why can't people just re-create the 3DS D-Pad but bigger? It was perfect for me and allowed me to love Street Fighter 3DS. If anybody knows any wireless controllers with a good D-Pad, please let me know.
It’s so bizarre seeing the industry turn on handhelds (except for Nintendo) only to loop back around to focusing on miniaturising PC back into handhelds. Wtf next thing will be that single player games aren’t dead… oh wait. Game industry executives are always wrong it seems. Can’t wait to see game streaming blow up again and again into a million pieces.
This is so cool but you can get a rog ally with the same specs for under 600 from best buy open box. I believe the one you have here is around $900. Ouch.
I think the Loki max got the dpad right cause its like the SNES dpad the second is gpd win 4 gotta vita like dpad which i got my eyes on as my main device i want i think my hands is too small for the steam deck
I like the idea of small X86 handhelds, but I do think chasing higher SKU chips hurts these devices but helps with marketing. Ultimately, battery life is king to a certain point. 3 hours is ideal, which would be 10w total system power. with a 35wh battery (so as to not drain the battery fully)
i found a simple fix for my steam dpad, its like what i did for my psp. I got a switch circular dpad cover and some serious 2 sided tape. Fit the tape to cover and popped it on. Much more responsive diagonals and i can pry it off if i need to.
@@NihongoGamer Oh the Kino Mod is a Mod Menu for CarX that lets you customize the game further. Its great and mostly used for Custom Maps, since the Steam Workshop for the Game does not have any.
the things i look for when it comes to gaming handhelds is mostly directed towards warranty, customer support and third party support specially modding. i had bad experience with ASUS customer support in the past more than once trying to RMA motherboards and strix GPUs which is preventing me on buying the ROG Ally at the moment. I would only consider getting an Ayaneo if they ever decide to have a branch in the west that can handle Customer Support for much quicker turn rate and less language barriers. for now to me Steam Deck is king.
The 1S is nice but I’d take the Onexfly over it. I get my 7” screen back, smaller and lighter than my Ally, full 2280 nvme slot, and still have excellent controls.
I have both and the onexfly is a better machine. overall same compact feel but the 7" is a must have if you're going to play CRPG. Also it's easy to accidentally hit the power button on the air 1s and would heat up inside my bag and drain the battery.
Only Steam Deck is better. Trust me when I say this. Windows is not worth it. I have used them all. Nothing compares to the form factor and playability lilke the Deck,
I'm real fussy about my dpads too, frustrating that so few companies seem to be able to get it right.
Gpd got it right
@@Fleshlight_Reviewer right, sony was way ahead of nintendo and everyone in terms of features on their handhelds and its great to see gpd recognize that. to me, its a fact that ps-like clicky dpad is far superior then mushy sharp corner nintendo dpad
the title made me laugh because it reminded me of a video that talked about how the original xbox wasn't popular in japan because the original controller was big lol
The OG Xbox controller was ridiculous
Asus Rog Ally is still the best
Option in my opinion
This is the one I've had my eye on. I really love the Switch Lite form factor and I'm a sucker for OLED screens. I just can't decide if the drawbacks are dealbreakers or not. It is pretty expensive.
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Great review! I would have appreciated a bit more detail on how SF6 runs on the device.
I'm strongly considering getting a handheld like this as my portable SF6 setup. That is, a computer I can bring to places with a TV, hook up, and get games in with friends. Is there any chance you could do a video looking at the various options for that use-case?
I'd like to be able to hook up two USB controllers to the device while using a video-out to go to the external monitor, having a switch-like dock would be a nice-to-have, but as long as there's a hack to get things up and running it's good enough.
I have the air plus and am getting the air 1s. Looks like the same exact dpad. If it is, it's perfect, regardless of what the person here says. It's the best dpad I've ever used.
An important aspect about these portable devices with built-in controls is how durable the analog sticks are and if they have hall effect sensor or not. It's good to hear this uses it.
Suffice to say, Nintendo _needs_ to make a successor to the Switch and have the same form factor but more powerful specs, hall sensors, backwards compatibility with Switch cartridges and digital games, NVMe expanded storage support, etc.
Hope one day a company create a real portable handheld like this at a realistic price
and one that doesn't feels outdated in like 3 months... by the speed they release their handhelds you feel like you can wait around 4 months and get a better device for the same price.
Real portable handheld as in it fits in our pockets?
Current generation gaming handhelds are still FAR too weak (w/terrible battery life) for modern pc games. It is better to wait for the AMD Ryzen 8000 APUs next year. Even the lower TDP rated Ryzen 8000 Strix Point should be far superior to the current 7840U.
Welp. You're incorrect. Mine runs everything I throw at it and well. Not to mention, the 8840u is basically the same as the 7840u. An incredibly miniscule bump from the 7840u, and makes it not worth it in the slightest as they basically about the same chip
@@devinrobertson5251what do you use
Size is a matter of personal preference and what is better is to have more variety for Handheld Gaming PCs.
There are those who like the pocketableness of 3.5~5' screen handheld pcs
Others are ok with regular 6~8'
Others like myself want a 8~10" screens that could potentially double as tablets/laptops.
Regular 6"~8"?
Smh the internet really has ruined our perception of normal
OLED screen is gorgeous, wish there will be a 7" soon.
How about the screen burn issue?
Reddit is going to be a better review source for Ayaneo. I’ve consistently seen issues on their build quality, customer service, and rma service. This review feels more like an advertisement that isn’t honest about the overall experience whereas Reddit can provide more realistic impressions and review.
The thing I most want out of my windows gaming handheld, is that it is also a totally viable general purpose PC, which is why I love my GPD Win Max to death. The dpad on the WinMax is...okay, sounds better than your review of the Air 1s.
Is the winmax D-pad like the ps vita? I remember hearing good things about it online
@@NihongoGamerthe GPD Win Max 2 certainly is.
I'll second that, rocking a GPD win Max 2 also
Not a single word on battery life. How is it? That's really important for a handheld, you know
It’s exactly as you’d expect. 38Wh battery and you can change the TDP from 5W to 20W in battery mode so the math dictates how long you’ll get from it
It's really nice seeing more portable PCs, it's interesting, but idk personally if 1k is worth it 4 me, maybe 4 the Yakuza games if I want higher graphical fidelity but even then the way I use my Steam deck is as a companion piece and not for a whole replacement as I feel the Aya Neo seems to be. I do agree I wish companies cared more about D-pads, overall this review is nice, and gave me a more open look into this industry
nice, but I m 45 years old, can't see the small fonts clearly. lol
Yeah for text heavy games a bigger screen is certainly the way to go
Fail $1200
Fails and more
I've found my steam deck dpad has improved quite a bit after "breaking it in" by playing tons of sf6 on it...I wonder if that could be the case here. might get a little less stiff over time
It still isn't a good dpad.
Whats the difference between this and the Ayaneo Air Plus?
Which one is newer, its so confusing all the model naming, theres like 10 different ayaneos, can someone give a good summary of the models?
Yeah Air and Slide are good names but names like “Plus” kinda confuse me
@@NihongoGamer After alot of digging i finally figured it out, so basically theres 3 main models at the moment:
• Ayaneo 2s
• Ayaneo Geek 1s
• Ayaneo Air 1s
All "s" means is the latest upgrade to the 7840u chip (anything without the S has the old 6800u chip)
- Ayaneo 2s: is the base model, it has a 1200p LCD display with no bezels
- Ayaneo Geek 1s: is just a "cheaper" version of the 2s, the reason its cheaper is bc it has a bezel AND only 800p resolution (there is now a 1200p version, but its basically the price of the base model, i have no idea why they did this)
- Ayaneo Air 1s: the one you have, is the same device as the other two, but in a smaller body AND a OLED 1080p display
Finally, the screen size on the Air is unfortunately only 5.5" (smaller than an iphone) the other models the screen is 7".
Other than that they're all basically the same device.
Deck is still better
If only they would ship out orders on time and not full of excuses.
If it werent for the steep price
id love to have one of these
Ive been using mine for a month and absolutely love it. Only thing id hope for in the future are larger thumbsticks
wow this is so impressive !!!
glad I found this channel. To me, D-PAD is a deal breaker. So I value your opinion a lot. To me a portable with a bad D-PAD is not worth considering. Thank you!
Prefer asus rog ally. 120hz for variable refresh rate is the best.
Just use the analog for fighting game
What racing game is he playing it looks fun
CarX Drift Racing :)
@@NihongoGamer I really appreciate it man thank you I love ur content I just sub , I thought I been subbed awhile ago
''and even my ninento switch''
dude why would you ever want to use that if you have a steam deck ?
like daft punk said, "smarter, better, stronger, faster"
This would be great for work!
Nearly £900 for this device is way too much for me. When you can buy a desktop PC with much higher specs for 3/4 of this price it seems that Ayaneo might be taking a piss a bit.
It’s def a premium but it does offer a package the other companies don’t have like size and OLED. Nice to have options.
The size and screen are nice, but I honestly don't really see a solid point to buy this instead of the ROG Ally.
The size of the device shouldn't be increasing the price. Surely if your device has a bigger screen the price would be higher?
@@Sakhi sqeezing powerful tech into a smaller form factor increases part and development costs
I got the ASU’s rogue ally for 500; Don’t regret after 2 months.
D-Pad snob myself, it either good or it isn't
The colors seem to pop off the screen!
Battery life and os is my main thing.
More like Smaller. Better. Pricier
*That's not what she said...*
what is the drifting game?
too much expensive
what game is that on 0:15
been real happy with my steam deck but heard nothing but great things with the ayaneo, great vid boss
Man why can't people just re-create the 3DS D-Pad but bigger? It was perfect for me and allowed me to love Street Fighter 3DS. If anybody knows any wireless controllers with a good D-Pad, please let me know.
@NihongoGamer what's the best d-pad in a controller today?
I have joycon, procontroller, dualsense, I hate them all. xD
that's what she said
OneXFly is better, in terms of screen size & weight (on proportion) and screen of 1S is too small (in my personal opinion)....
It’s so bizarre seeing the industry turn on handhelds (except for Nintendo) only to loop back around to focusing on miniaturising PC back into handhelds. Wtf next thing will be that single player games aren’t dead… oh wait. Game industry executives are always wrong it seems. Can’t wait to see game streaming blow up again and again into a million pieces.
This is so cool but you can get a rog ally with the same specs for under 600 from best buy open box. I believe the one you have here is around $900. Ouch.
price is bigger
Smaller displays for PC games is not better, IMO and that's probably not what "she said" either.
looks too small
This video makes want you to collab with Bob while he's in Japan. I'm actually considering getting one.
11:39 It's a neat precise d-pad, circular shape preferably, for smooth fighting inputs.
I think the Loki max got the dpad right cause its like the SNES dpad the second is gpd win 4 gotta vita like dpad which i got my eyes on as my main device i want i think my hands is too small for the steam deck
If it didn't come out of your pocket. The review didn't come out of honesty
What is the title of the game with Hatsune Miku?
Is it on Steam?
Project Diva Miku Megamix. Yep it’s on steam
If you wanna see a portable handheld that has a great D-Pad try a Loki Max
Which do you find yourself picking up more, this or the Ally?
Thank you for the review. That D-pad is a deal breaker for me.
Meh. Just throw it in a drawer and forget about it for 20 years
Anyone know whats the game at 7:50 ?
7:50 is 10-second ninja (Steam)
9:52 lol he dropped it
I like the idea of small X86 handhelds, but I do think chasing higher SKU chips hurts these devices but helps with marketing.
Ultimately, battery life is king to a certain point. 3 hours is ideal, which would be 10w total system power. with a 35wh battery (so as to not drain the battery fully)
Steam Deck is still the king of efficiency. Best performance 10w and lower, which makes it my go to for indie and older games.
which game at 10:00 ?
10:00 is CarX Drift Racing :)
does it run mortal kombat 1 in 60fps? would be interesting to see a comparison to the switch version.
does switch have mk2,3?
whats the game in 8:33
i found a simple fix for my steam dpad, its like what i did for my psp. I got a switch circular dpad cover and some serious 2 sided tape. Fit the tape to cover and popped it on. Much more responsive diagonals and i can pry it off if i need to.
Thanks for the tip! I might try that!
I never thought I'd see this video in my suggestion, I haven't watched any of your vids since the good old Vita days.
Welcome back :)
Great video!
omg being this early feels werid, keep it up your my fav youtuber!!
Much love for the early beans!!
Do you prefer this one over the gpd win 4 pro? The dpad on the win4 seems to be better (like a ps vita)
Never tried the GPD but I’d love to review one
60 fps max?
Yeah
On the built in screen, that is
What game is that at 7:16? Looks fun
The platformer? Little Noah: Scion of Paradise
What about the battery sir?
38Wh seems pretty standard for this sort of device. How much you get out of it depends on how aggressively low you set the TDP
What racing game is that?
CarX Drift Racing
What is that drifting game?
CarX Drift Racing Online
Its really fun, especially with the Kino Mod
What’s the kino mod?
@@NihongoGamer
Oh the Kino Mod is a Mod Menu for CarX that lets you customize the game further.
Its great and mostly used for Custom Maps, since the Steam Workshop for the Game does not have any.
Thank you so much!@@NaughtyBear1337
the things i look for when it comes to gaming handhelds is mostly directed towards warranty, customer support and third party support specially modding. i had bad experience with ASUS customer support in the past more than once trying to RMA motherboards and strix GPUs which is preventing me on buying the ROG Ally at the moment. I would only consider getting an Ayaneo if they ever decide to have a branch in the west that can handle Customer Support for much quicker turn rate and less language barriers. for now to me Steam Deck is king.
We need to wait for the legion go
Too small
It's the ideal size for me. I wanna actually put it in my pocket.
Does the D-Pad work well for MK1?
Depends. MK has a block button right? This might reduce reliance on the d-pad a little bit.
Could you do an short on MK1 on it performance? It looks and feels like garbage on the switch. @@NihongoGamer
@@AllenJohnI know on steamdeck it's not great either. Struggles to reach 60 on steamdeck
The 1S is nice but I’d take the Onexfly over it. I get my 7” screen back, smaller and lighter than my Ally, full 2280 nvme slot, and still have excellent controls.
That does sound like an awesome combo!
I have both and the onexfly is a better machine. overall same compact feel but the 7" is a must have if you're going to play CRPG. Also it's easy to accidentally hit the power button on the air 1s and would heat up inside my bag and drain the battery.
Only Steam Deck is better. Trust me when I say this. Windows is not worth it. I have used them all. Nothing compares to the form factor and playability lilke the Deck,
Wrong
7:26 despite the fact that there are monster Hunter games available on the switch
not what she said ;=)
That’s what she said